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Title: Anybody had the swine flu?
Source: abraxas
URL Source: http://dizzy
Published: Oct 4, 2009
Author: abraxas
Post Date: 2009-10-04 12:51:03 by abraxas
Keywords: None
Views: 1312
Comments: 104

Does anybody on 4um believe that they may have had the swine flu?

I'm thinking that I have it. It started out like a normal cold, coughing, plugged up head and nose. It seemed to be lasting longer than normal, as I'm generally extremely healthy. However, I have kids in gradeschool, attend college and have been student teaching at the high school. Plenty of places to contract a nasty bug. Precautions had been taken as I upped by vitamin D over a month ago.

On Saturday I took a turn for the worse. Chills came on. I ate little breakfast then began to have horrible back pain with stomach cramps. This was awful, to the point where I was laying on the tile floor rolled up in the fetal position. My breakfast and I soon parted ways. I slept for about three hours and then felt a little better. Tried a tiny bit of homemade chicken soup a couple of hours later, but the cramps and back pain returned.

Now, I'm afraid to eat a thing. Feeling a tad bit light headed. Still battling the head and chest congestion with a slight fever. Frankly, if this is swine flu, I'm glad to take it on and get it over with, hopefully build some immunity. I know that many 4um folks are highly educated on the swine flu. I'm wondering if my symptoms fit the bill.

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#51. To: IRTorqued (#27)

I'd caution against gatoraid because of its high fructose corn syrup content, in fact the only isotonic I've found where I live (coastal bend) is Quench (which is the store (HEB) brand) that does not list high fructose corn syrup as an ingredient all others list it as the first ingredient. if one is going to ingest high fructose corn syrup they may as well get vaccines, the mercury levels will be comparable.

I forgot it had that corn sweetener, because I make my own without any sweetening added from a formula I buy for the cows.

mininggold  posted on  2009-10-04   22:32:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Lod (#36)

Have you tried a blend of whiskey, honey and cinnamon?

Oh, that doesn't soudnd like anything I could keep down. I've been attempting the ginger tincture from my Chinese herbal remedy friend mixed with water.....but even that is causing more cramping and back ache. Uuuhhhggg.

This has been a completely miserable day.

abraxas  posted on  2009-10-04   22:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Liberator (#46)

Chicken soup, rest, bland food, rest...

Lib, I can't even keep down homemade chicken noodle soup. Lost it all when I tried yesterday. No food today, as the last two times I tried the smallest bit the cramps and backache came on and I had to give it up. I'm struggling to drink water right now.

abraxas  posted on  2009-10-04   22:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: christine (#37)

nausea is the absolute worst malady for me. i just want to commit hari kari.

It's worse than nausea, although I feel the same as you do about it. I can only describe the backache combined with stomach cramping as similar to back labor. That's no exaggeration on that analogy.

With this crap it's the worst just before I have to vomit. All clammy and flush with cramps and backache so bad I can't stand. I want to sleep but even that is proving difficult due to the backache and cramping.

abraxas  posted on  2009-10-04   22:47:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: abraxas (#54)

nausea

The best antidote for nausea is a ginger ale. Not too cold tho.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-10-04   22:53:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: abraxas (#34)

I have heard that about using Vicks on the feet just recently from a friend of mine. I haven't tried it yet. I was telling her about putting oils on my feet and she told me about that.

From my experience the hyssop oil has helped with my cats when they had been wheezing badly, my young deer last year, and children the animals don't care for the smell when I rub it on their chest but it really helped them. Then I would usually put colloidal silver in their water.

Here is something that I just received last Wednesday. I had ordered some stuff for my attempt at restoring my thyroid from this place and ran across this product. It really seems to be helping my joints and muscles. I am amazed with the results of this product so far and gave a jar of it to take with him. This has a section regarding lung health. Whether it will help it is hard to say but it may be worth trying this and hyssop. And I was using the Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth before I began using the oxygen stuff for my thyroid and noticed results rather rapidly.

This is from the website were I ordered from.

Food Grade Micro Fossil Shell Powder 84% Silicon Dioxide (Silica) Diatomaceous Earth There is no life without Silica !!

In 1939, the Nobel Prize winner for chemistry, Professor Adolf Butenant, proved that life can not exist without Silica. In the 2003 book "Water & Salt" Dr. Barbara Hendel states: "Silica it the most important trace mineral for human health!"

Silica plays an important role in many body functions and has a direct relationship to mineral absorption. The average human body holds approximately seven grams of silica, a quantity far exceeding the figures for other important minerals such as iron.

Lower High Blood Pressure! Of the thousands of people that are using Fossil Shell Powder, everyone that has high blood pressure has reported that it has gone down. I am not just talking a few points---I am talking about LIFE-CHANGING numbers. Doctors are amazed--customers are amazed---You will be too.

Lower high Cholesterol! Just as Fossil Shell Powder has been lowering blood pressure--it has also been lowering cholesterol! Most are reporting 40-60 points lower after only 2 weeks. I know it sounds too good to be true, but it works!

Joint Health! Osteoporosis is a symptom of the aging process. As calcium in our body system depletes, our bones become brittle and weak. Taking only a calcium supplement can not correct or stop this threatening and crippling disease because the body cannot assimilate and make use of the calcium without the presence of silica. Evidence suggests that, instead of affecting healing, supplemental mineral calcium, on the contrary, accelerates the leaching away of bone calcium and thus hastens the degenerative process of osteoporosis and similar diseases that affect the supportive and connective tissues in the human body.

For osteoporosis, silica can stop the pain and even restore the bodies self repair process. Osteoporosis symptoms attack women primarily after menopause but the degenerative process starts much earlier in their younger days. More women are dying of fractures caused by osteoporosis than of cancer of the breast, cervix, and uterus combined.

Silica is responsible for the depositing of minerals into the bones, especially calcium. It speeds up the healing of fractures and also reduces scarring at the site of a fracture. More and more research evidence shows that through a transmutation process, silica is turned into calcium when it is needed. That is why some scientists refer to silica as a precursor of calcium. Even when calcium is insufficient, the body can turn silica into calcium that the bones need.

Natural Weight Loss! We have been getting hundreds of reports from all over the United States that Micro Fossil Powder is helping people lose weight. Everyone is saying when taken in the morning it helps to curb their appetite throughout the day. Just one more reason to take it everyday!

Nature's Internal Cosmetic! In Europe and Asia FSP is used extensively as a health and beauty product for hair, skin, nails, bones, and joints.

Tissue degeneration accelerates due to aging when connective tissue develops an increasing inability to retain moisture when left unassisted. Silica can help slow the degenerative process of connective tissue. With silica, vitality and life, which are often lost as the years accumulate, can be naturally maintained or even restored to your skin. Collagen, largely made up of silica, is the glue that holds us together. If our body has enough silica glucosaminoglycane, the collagen will make us look younger. Silica helps with skin problems and injuries including itching, rashes, abscesses, boils, acne, callouses, warts, eczema's, burns, frostbite, benign skin sores, insect bites and bed sores.

If you regularly follow a silica regimen, your skin will keep its young look. A good silica supplementation program works far better than other products for maintaining healthier and longer lasting collagen.

Hair That Grows! Hair is natures greatest beauty enhancer. Hair deserves to be pampered. Hair at 90 micrograms per gram is almost as rich in silica as are healthy bones, which contain 100 micrograms per gram. Silica is a major component of hair. Using a good silica supplement should be part of your ongoing hair care program for revitalizing hair. Silica helps to prevent baldness, stimulates healthier hair growth and assures beautiful shine, luster and strength.

Teeth and Gums! By hardening the enamel, silica prevents cavities and preserves teeth. Silica also prevents bleeding gums, gum atrophy, and recession that causes the loosening of teeth, which could ultimately lead to tooth loss. Silica effectively fights ulceration and the decay of bones,teeth and also lessens inflammation.

Tough As Nails! Your nail plates are complex protein structures that grow four to five millimeters per month on average. With silica supplementation, fragile nails become normal within a short period of time. Silica will beautify the appearance of your nails and improve their hardness, making them shinier and less prone to breaking.

The restorative effects of silica will be most noticeable on your hair, skin, nails and teeth. Our skin and hair require silica essentially for the same purpose as do other tissues. As we know, the supporting collagen underneath the skin enhances elasticity and beauty. Collagen owes that quality to silica, which provides a beautiful complexion that is more than skin deep.

More Benefits!

* Silica lowers bad cholesterol and raises good * Silica fades age spots * Silica stimulates metabolism for higher energy levels * Fossil Shell Powder has a negative charge and bacteria has a positive charge. It is believed that FSP earth sweeps bacteria out of the body by trapping it in it's honeycomb shaped skeletal form.

* Silica supplementation helps repair and maintain vital lung tissues and protects them from pollution. By maintaining or restoring the elasticity of lung tissues, silica reduces inflammation in bronchitis.

* It acts as a cough decreasing agent. Silica tones the upper respiratory tract (nose, pharynx, larynx) and reduces swelling because of its positive action on the lymphatic system.

* Silica supplementation keeps menopause free of stress and helps to prevent many unwanted side-effects of menopause * Silica works with other antioxidants to prevent premature aging and to preserve youthfulness.

* Silica can help prevent kidney stones and heal infections of the urinary tract. It is a natural diuretic which can increase excretion of urine by 30 percent, thus flushing the water-excreting system and restoring normal function to these vital organs.

* The presence of sufficient silica in the intestines will reduce inflammation of the intestinal tract. It can cause disinfection in the case of stomach and intestinal mucus and ulcers. Silica can prevent or clear up diarrhea and its opposite, constipation.

* In regulating and normalizing the bowels, silica has a pleasant side effect; it can alleviate lower back pain, which often troubles the elderly.

* Silica proves effective with female discharge, abscesses and ulcers in the genital area and cervix, as well as mastitis (especially for breast feeding mothers). * The intake of silica acts as a supportive treatment for inflammation of the middle ear. Because of the beneficial effectiveness on the lymphatic system, silica can be used for swelling of the lymph nodes in the throat.

* Has anti-inflammatory disinfecting, absorbing and odor binding effects.

* Silica can normalize circulation and regulate high blood pressure (hypertension).

* Silica can decrease vertigo, headache, tinnitus (buzzing of the ears) and insomnia.

* Silica can help diabetes by promoting synthesis of elastase inhibitor by the pancreas.

* Silica can help arterial disease by strengthening the blood vessels. Studies confirm that with age, silica disappears from the aorta, the heart's key blood vessel thus weakening its critical connective tissue and resulting in a greater cardiac risk.

* Silica can help prevent Tuberculosis.

* By improving the elasticity of the joints, silica helps rheumatism.

* Silica has inhibitory effects on coronary diseases.

* Silica can help avoiding or alleviating Alzheimers disease by preventing the body from absorbing aluminum and may flush out aluminum from the tissues. Silica can stimulate the immune system.

This was only $17.00 a jar and as I said I am really pleased with it. I find I am able to stand with my shoulders straighter and not having issues with aches in my back and neck. My sense of smell is also coming back since I began taking this.

The Cayenne Fruit can be purchased from Wallmart for about $4.00 a bottle. It is a very bizarre type of thing. I take two a day and most of the time never feel a thing but if I have a sore throat or something is wrong inside I feel it burn when it is going down.

I just gave one to the 10 year old. I think she is coming down with this now. The other two are doing pretty well now just the tail end. Time to make more Colloidal Silver.

My ten year old when she was a baby and got colds she would have almost a whooping cough sound from her lungs, they attempted to put her on Albueterol. My son took that when he was a baby a few times and I did not care for it so with her the Colloidal Silver has really be great. It always clears that up. And the Hyssop has made it even shorter and she doesn't need any cough medicine with the last few colds since I put the hyssop oil on her pillow.

Hope you are feeling better when you read this!

MiracleRose7  posted on  2009-10-04   23:54:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: christine (#43)

Your Welcome. As I said it is great to use on the animals when they are having congestion issues also.

MiracleRose7  posted on  2009-10-04   23:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: abraxas (#54)

With this crap it's the worst just before I have to vomit. All clammy and flush with cramps and backache so bad I can't stand. I want to sleep but even that is proving difficult due to the backache and cramping.

Go to the friggin hospital ER NOW.

The ongoing backaches and cramps maybe due to electrolyte depletion.

mininggold  posted on  2009-10-05   0:27:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: buckeroo, critter, abraxas (#1)

Nurse Ratchet wants you in line at the local dispensary for your shot.


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-05   0:36:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: mininggold, abraxas (#58)

Go to the friggin hospital ER NOW.

The ongoing backaches and cramps maybe due to electrolyte depletion.

Ok if you won't go to the hospital there is an alternative that might help despite your stomach. In the children's/baby section there is popsicles that replenishes your electrolytes. Freeze them and suck on them slowly.

Pedialyte® Freezer Pops


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-05   0:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: abraxas (#53)

I can't even keep down homemade chicken noodle soup. Lost it all when I tried yesterday. No food today, as the last two times I tried the smallest bit the cramps and backache came on and I had to give it up. I'm struggling to drink water right now.

You're dehydrating.

You've gotta get some electrolytes down somehow....Use a heating pad to help relax your stomach/intestines as well might help.

Liberator  posted on  2009-10-05   0:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: mininggold (#58)

hospital ER NOW

I don't agree. The hospital ER may only complicate matters. It's bound to be full of sick people. You may even get sicker from them. And they will surely give you the swine vaccine too. (if they have it in stock.)

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-10-05   0:54:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: irishthatcherite (#50)

our economy is the most fucked in the developed world. Imagine, tyranny and depression rolled into one - might as well throw in a blight on the spuds....

That's what the Lisbon Treaty's been all about?

What specifics are the worst? Wait - lemme guess: Accepting Third World freeploaders....er I mean freeloaders?

ICC will rule on Irish matters?

Liberator  posted on  2009-10-05   0:55:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Liberator (#63)

Sometymes within yor posts, you really act like a devil don't you?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-05   0:58:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Liberator (#47)

Curious about your thyroid "recipe." Iodine part of it?

This is what I am going to attempt in order to kick my thyroid in. Whether it will work or not is yet to be seen but I do know that when I drank Kombucha I did end up having to lower my thyroid medicine.

I am purging my body and getting it up to health by doing the following

1. Taking 17.5% food grade H2O2 This is like putting extra oxygen in my body

2. Doing the Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth. I really like this stuff and will continue on with it throughout and after I am done with some of the other stuff.

3. Fucoxanthin-Fucoxanthin is an all natural pigment found in Wakame Seaweed from the Sea of Japan. Fucoxanthin, when taken in small doses, targets abdominal fat and breaks it down allowing the body to metabolize it. This breakdown is known as metabolic thermogenesis and it's discovery has intrigued doctors and scientists everywhere. Study after study verifies that fucoxanthin is a safe, effective way to combat fat accumulation, especially in the stomach and abdominal regions. Fucoxanthin is a new and innovative way to reduce excess body fat and increase energy while still allowing you to go about your normal lifestyle.

Evidence shows that Fucoxanthin is a powerful antioxidant and protects cells from free radical damage. It may also support your: Cardiovascular Health Inflammatory Response Optimal Cholesterol and Triglyceride Levels Optimal Blood Pressure Levels Healthy Liver Function Thyroid Health Fights against Diabetes & Cancer

I imagine that it does contain some iodine and what caused the heart to react due to over stimulation of the thyroid. Although I would be ecstatic to loss some weight this is not the main reason I am taking this it is for my thyroid.

After two weeks I will stop the Fucoxanthin then I will go on HCG

HCG Diet Frequently Asked Questions

What is HCG and how does it work? HCG is a hormone naturally produced in the body. It has many functions and is used medically to treat a variety of conditions. It is the pregnancy hormone. This hormone allows the body to metabolize fat and use it as energy for both mother and fetus. This acts as a “fail-safe” mechanism when energy is needed immediately. For weight loss, we use only a very small amount of HCG to capitalize on this same mechanism. Using HCG in this way does not mimic pregnancy; in fact, it can be safely used by both men and women.

I guess it is a big diet thing and can be very costly but I got it for $40.00 a bottle. My main reason for this is I found it doing a research on the thyroid. And on the website it has this below.

What is the Hypothalamus? The hypothalamus is involved in your metabolism "setpoint". With age, the hypothalamus builds up toxins & begins to malfunction. It may explain part of why our metabolism goes down with age, we have more & more sleeping difficulties, and hormonal/ovulatory disturbances as well as other symptoms.

The Hypothalamus is the control center of all autonomic regulatory activities of the body. It has been said that the hypothalamus is the brain of the brain. It is the hub for automatic and endocrine homeostatic systems such as cardiovascular, temperature, and abdominal visceral regulation. It manages all endocrine hormonal levels, sensory processing, and organizing body metabolism, as well as ingestion behaviors. It appears that almost everything the Hypothalamus does is related in some way to the management of brain and body connection, linking the psyche (mind) to the body.

The hypothalamus controls:

Pituitary gland regulation Blood Pressure regulation Hunger & Salt cravings Feeding Reflexes Thirst Body temperature regulation Hydration Heart rate Bladder function (hcg can remedy prostate problems) Water preservation Hormonal/neurotransmitter regulation Ovarian function Testicular function Mood & behavioral functions Wakefulness Metabolism Sleep cycles Energy levels

In addition, homeopathic hcg on it's own is used for:

Increasing energy Increasing muscle tone Reducing excess body fat Rejuvenation of necessary structural fat Lowering cholesterol levels Improving adrenal gland function Maintaining progesterone levels

With this I am suppose to be on 500 calorie diet for a month. If I can get my pituitary gland to kick in I believe this will help my thyroid.

After a month I go off this and will go back on to the Fucoxanthin if needed. Then in a month back on the HCG if I have lost the weight I desire to the second time I will not diet but just take the HCG.

So this is my plan. Time will tell if it works or not. I am sick of the FDA and having to go to the doctors every year for my thyroid. If I can get off the medicine I will be happy.

MiracleRose7  posted on  2009-10-05   1:00:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: sizzlerguy (#62) (Edited)

I don't agree. The hospital ER may only complicate matters. It's bound to be full of sick people. You may even get sicker from them. And they will surely give you the swine vaccine too. (if they have it in stock.)

The poster needs IV fluids/electrolytes and maybe a shot of compazine NOW. Any hospital worth it's salt will put him in isolation.

Flu vaccines are contraindicated in a person while suffering from the flu.

mininggold  posted on  2009-10-05   1:16:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: buckeroo (#64)

Sometymes within yor posts, you really act like a devil don't you?

Stop - I'm blushing.

Hey - you and the gang knock off that bottle of Petron yet?

Liberator  posted on  2009-10-05   1:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: mininggold (#66)

in isolation

I don't know many hospitals that don't make all patients wait in the waiting room for hours with a bunch of other sick people.

Then, you gotta' wait at the next "check-point" for quite a while in big room, seperated only by cloth drapes, Right.?

So, the patient is exposed to a variety of unknown airborn viruses before even seeing a quack. Right.?

And, chances are, most ER will be sizzlin' crowded with sick folks too. Right.?

So, all I can say, is, avoid hospitals and clinics at all cost unless the fever is really extreme.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-10-05   1:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: MiracleRose7 (#65)

Thanks for the detailed info...

Food Grade hydrogen peroxide? I've used it sparingly. Have you used it effectively? If there are possible ulcers, it can't be good.

Did the Kombucha Tea noticably jack up you thyroid THAT much? I've intended to try some but failed to for whatever reason.

Never heard of Fucoxanthin-Fucoxanthin. You just wonder how cost-effective that will be.

Diatomaceous Earth - how is that effective?

It's my understand here that HCG stimulates the hypothalamus...never heard of it, but I'll check it out. Please let me know if/how it's affective for you.

Intriguing regimen you've set up.

Liberator  posted on  2009-10-05   1:41:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: abraxas (#0)

Just curious do you still have your appendix? When mine ruptured in 1999 I thought I just had the stomach flu since it had been going around. Those severe cramps sound like when I had food poisoning once. If you have a pain in the lower right side when it is pushed on you may want to have your appendix checked out.

MiracleRose7  posted on  2009-10-05   1:55:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Liberator (#69)

Food Grade hydrogen peroxide? I've used it sparingly. Have you used it effectively? If there are possible ulcers, it can't be good.

Did the Kombucha Tea noticably jack up you thyroid THAT much? I've intended to try some but failed to for whatever reason.

Never heard of Fucoxanthin-Fucoxanthin. You just wonder how cost-effective that will be.

Diatomaceous Earth - how is that effective?

It's my understand here that HCG stimulates the hypothalamus...never heard of it, but I'll check it out. Please let me know if/how it's affective for you.

Intriguing regimen you've set up.

I had to have it lowered by one I believe at that time I was on Levoxyl I think 125 mg. The only other stuff I was taking was Cayenne and HGH. But the levels did seem to change after I began drinking the Kombucha a couple times a week.

Then I switched to the Armour the natural thyroid. Man I had major problems with my doctors office. I began having severe heart palpitations every time I took the dose. His nurse who had now became his wife decided since then lowered my dose, and then switched to Armour that two switches were enough. I told her I would cut one in half every second day and that I was not going to have a heart attack. I mean one night it was so bad if I had not had the muscle relaxer I would have ended up at the hospital.

I would love to hear about your experience with Food Grade hydrogen peroxide and any success you feel that you have had with it, or any adverse effects. This is my first time with it once I purge I will only use maybe 4 or 5 drops daily.

As far as the Fucoxanthin it was the most expensive at $60 a jar. I do not intend to take it as I would the thyroid forever. I am hoping it will somehow help stimulate it and with the other it would kick it in.

The Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth is wonderful. The muscle relaxers I get very usually very few are for the times when I sleep on a pillow wrong and get horrendous headaches, or read to much with my head in a certain position. My muscles get so tight and knotted up and are normally that way from an old whiplash I had. Since I have begun using the Diatomaceous Earth I feel much more relaxation in my muscles. Little cracks here and there as it is going into place. I noticed my shoulders are straighter. I really like this stuff it is great at least so far. My sense of smell is also coming back.

Are you taking thyroid medicine currently? If so are you taking natural or synthetic? I really don't want to go back on the synthetic and I think they may stop manufacturing the natural.

MiracleRose7  posted on  2009-10-05   2:35:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: abraxas (#54)

I tend to stay away from doctors, but you might want to listen to some of the posters. It might not be the flu that's causing all your problems. I also agree you need to get some fluid and electrolytes in you stat. If you don't go to the ER look up taking fluid by enema. It will bypass your stomach yet be absorbed by your body.

Here's one: www.health-information-fi...com/dehydration-enema.htm

More tips: ask.metafilter.com/106070...-vomiting-and-diarrheaing

Pain can be caused by dehydration: www.watercure2.org/pain.htm

Water [and sea salt] Cure overview: www.spiritportal.org/water-cure.html

Salt Water was not enough in this case. "muscle cramps were ironically the result of dehydration and a lack of sodium, magnesium and calcium." www.watercure2.org/cramps.htm

"...Magnesium Deficiency Can Seriously Impact Your Health
Magnesium is nothing short of a miracle mineral in its healing effect on a wide range of diseases as well as in its ability to rejuvenate the aging body. Symptoms of magnesium deficiency may include agitation and anxiety, restless leg syndrome (RLS), sleep disorders, irritability, nausea and vomiting, abnormal heart rhythms, low blood pressure, confusion, muscle spasm and weakness, hyperventilation, insomnia, and even seizures.....

5. When a doctor’s patient dies of influenza, it is not the virus that is deadly, but the patient’s compromised immune system due to chronic, long-standing deficiencies of vitamin C and magnesium intake, combined with the drugs and vaccines that doctors use that send old and young alike to their graves. ....." www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/magnesium.htm

If you don't have magnesium oil, take an epsom salt bath. It is not as long-lasting, but should help to get some magnesium into you right now.

If that stops the cramps, you might want to try taking some Emitrol for the nausea.

If you try these and they don't help, get to an emergency room. You HAVE to get some fluid and electrolytes in you for starters. You HAVE to. The safest thing would be to go to the ER now. Dehydration can be life-threatening. Needless to say, a burst appendix is as well.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-10-05   3:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: christine (#37)

Just noticed your tagline ... if there's ONE SINGLE THING responsible for the tragedy unfolding in America and the world, it's central banking/private- fiat currency and credit created and distributed by banking vultures ... THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANKING SYSTEM and its replacement entity the IMF !

I wish we were able to increase the awareness level to the extent that a few billionaires like Mark Cuban would join together to create a metals backed economic system that would be a partial cure for the fake system we have now. We also need to bring back production of goods to America so the people have real employment.

When Jefferson and others commented that the fiat system's owners could crush the people by inflating and deflating the currency, they were describing exactly what we're witnessing today.

If those fellas were still here the bankers wouldn't be.

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity and possibly your soul.

noone222  posted on  2009-10-05   4:22:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Liberator (#63)

That's what the Lisbon Treaty's been all about?

What specifics are the worst? Wait - lemme guess: Accepting Third World freeploaders....er I mean freeloaders?

Unbridled immigration ISN'T the worst thing about it - it's the fact that the sovereignty of the 27 Member States has been surrendered to the EU.

And that Lisbon is a blueprint for a totalitarian state - the most powerful executives will, like the preceding European Commission, will be unelected, only they'll officially be the government of the EU with absolute power.

ICC will rule on Irish matters?

We unfortunately already voted for that, few Irish voters actually realised it was an embryonic organ of world government. I voted against it, a majority of Irish people didn't. I suppose, maybe, you mean the European Court of Justice? The answer is yes, they can rule on Irish affairs, and on issues where the Irish Constitution is in conflict with the EU - the court will rule in favour of the EU as is the terms of Lisbon.

POSTING FROM INSIDE THE NEW IRON CURTAIN

irishthatcherite  posted on  2009-10-05   8:00:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: christine (#38)

same here. i don't think i've ever had the flu and i can't remember the last time i was even sick. looking for wood to knock on.

I have had family members with flu over the years. Once my husband and child had flu at the same time. I never got it. It's got to be some natural immunity to it. However, I am susceptible to other things. Oh, yeah, I have had other health problems.

Julz  posted on  2009-10-05   8:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: irishthatcherite (#74)

Unbridled immigration ISN'T the worst thing about it - it's the fact that the sovereignty of the 27 Member States has been surrendered to the EU.

I assumed your sovereignty was sacrificed to the whims of the EU.

And that Lisbon is a blueprint for a totalitarian state - the most powerful executives will, like the preceding European Commission, will be unelected, only they'll officially be the government of the EU with absolute power.

IOW, the EU is being run like a Corporation...or Dictatorship. Lovely.

We unfortunately already voted for that [ICC], few Irish voters actually realised it was an embryonic organ of world government. I voted against it, a majority of Irish people didn't. I suppose, maybe, you mean the European Court of Justice? The answer is yes, they can rule on Irish affairs, and on issues where the Irish Constitution is in conflict with the EU - the court will rule in favour of the EU as is the terms of Lisbon.

You have your pods, we have ours....Thus if/when eventually the Irish citizenry passionately do NOT concur an ICC judicial ruling and refuse to be compliant, I reckon the penalty will either be an EU police action OR a blockade OR economic sanctions.

Living in the End Times sure is interesting, isn't it?

Liberator  posted on  2009-10-05   11:45:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: abraxas (#0)

No, I haven't had swine flu. I have, however, had the Pigeon Sniffles, and last week I had Cow Cough.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-05   11:48:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: sizzlerguy (#68)

I don't know many hospitals that don't make all patients wait in the waiting room for hours with a bunch of other sick people.

Not when you go by ambulance.

mininggold  posted on  2009-10-05   11:58:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Liberator (#76)

I assumed your sovereignty was sacrificed to the whims of the EU.

Yes, but it's being challenged the way the Irish government conducted itself during the Referendum campaign - several breaches of Irish law. Even the possibility of electoral fraud.

IOW, the EU is being run like a Corporation...or Dictatorship. Lovely.

Effectively, yes.

You have your pods, we have ours....Thus if/when eventually the Irish citizenry passionately do NOT concur an ICC judicial ruling and refuse to be compliant, I reckon the penalty will either be an EU police action OR a blockade OR economic sanctions.

Well, when you consider that some of the above were used as threats in the campaign, I suppose so!

Living in the End Times sure is interesting, isn't it?

As I said to some over at LP yesterday - I like to think that Man will carry on for a few more millenia until God calls him home, but I'll keep it in mind, just in case.

POSTING FROM INSIDE THE NEW IRON CURTAIN

irishthatcherite  posted on  2009-10-05   12:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: abraxas (#0)

My 3-year old niece had it last week, my brother self-quarantined the whole house from visitors and my sister-in-law and nephew stayed home all week. She was lucky that it was just equivalent to a nasty cold in her case.

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“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
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X-15  posted on  2009-10-05   14:47:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: X-15, Abraxas (#80)

My 3-year old niece had it last week, my brother self-quarantined the whole house from visitors and my sister-in-law and nephew stayed home all week. She was lucky that it was just equivalent to a nasty cold in her case.

Abraxas has not posted today, and while that could mean he had a fast recovery and is back at work somehow I doubt it.

mininggold  posted on  2009-10-05   14:58:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: mininggold. all (#81)

from wiki -

Throughout the centuries, Abraxas has also been variously claimed to be an Egyptian god, a demon,[1] and to represent God and Satan in one entity and the dual nature of its essence.[2]

A most interesting nic.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-10-05   16:33:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: abraxas (#0)

The football'ers here drank Pedialyte & gatoraid when they were down (15 to 20 were sick at one time two weeks ago).

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-05   16:35:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Jethro Tull (#83)

Are the guys back to full speed in Happy Valley?

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-10-05   16:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Lod (#84)

Yes and no. We've had a few kids relapse, or get it for the first time, which has left each game day starting line up a last minute affair.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-05   16:49:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Jethro Tull (#85)

JoPa should have enough depth on the roster to be more than competitive I'm guessing.

The olde fart's been at it long enough.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-10-05   16:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Lod (#86)

Jim, when I find out what he drinks, I'll drop you a PM. The guy looks and acts at least 10 years younger. He still has dark hair! I'm hoping it was all that Brooklyn pizza he scarfed down as a kid. If so, I might have the gene :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-05   17:06:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Jethro Tull (#87)

Dude is an amazing legend in his own time.

Truly, one of a kind - and then the mold was smashed to smithereens.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-10-05   17:09:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: All (#88)

here's a good link to the peppermint/spearmint oil farm -

www.getmint.com

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-10-05   17:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: All (#0)

Hi all. Wanted to hop on with an update. I was worshipping the porcelain god up until about midnight last night. Slept for about seven hours after that go round. Woke up very thristy. The water went down well and didn't cause any cramping. So, I ventured for seven saltines. Held them down too. Went back to sleep for about three hours. Ate a banana and kept it down while continueing to drink lots of water.

Had some hot Zoom cereal and that's staying down too. YIPPIE!! Having food in my tummy makes me sleepy so I've been dozing in and out all day.

I was reading some of the commentary on the possibility of food poisening. I hadn't thought of that and I've never had it before, but that would make sense with the awful stomach cramping. Maybe I just hopped onto blaming swine flu because that virus is all the talk of all the towns. Guilt by association perhaps.

Just wanted to let everybody know that I'm alive and well, even had a smile return today. Thank you all for your wonderful advice and best wishes!!! You folks at 4um are the best.

abraxas  posted on  2009-10-05   21:24:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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