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Title: Anybody had the swine flu?
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abraxas
URL Source: http://dizzy
Published: Oct 4, 2009
Author: abraxas
Post Date: 2009-10-04 12:51:03 by abraxas
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Does anybody on 4um believe that they may have had the swine flu? I'm thinking that I have it. It started out like a normal cold, coughing, plugged up head and nose. It seemed to be lasting longer than normal, as I'm generally extremely healthy. However, I have kids in gradeschool, attend college and have been student teaching at the high school. Plenty of places to contract a nasty bug. Precautions had been taken as I upped by vitamin D over a month ago. On Saturday I took a turn for the worse. Chills came on. I ate little breakfast then began to have horrible back pain with stomach cramps. This was awful, to the point where I was laying on the tile floor rolled up in the fetal position. My breakfast and I soon parted ways. I slept for about three hours and then felt a little better. Tried a tiny bit of homemade chicken soup a couple of hours later, but the cramps and back pain returned. Now, I'm afraid to eat a thing. Feeling a tad bit light headed. Still battling the head and chest congestion with a slight fever. Frankly, if this is swine flu, I'm glad to take it on and get it over with, hopefully build some immunity. I know that many 4um folks are highly educated on the swine flu. I'm wondering if my symptoms fit the bill.
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#58. To: abraxas (#54)
Go to the friggin hospital ER NOW. The ongoing backaches and cramps maybe due to electrolyte depletion.
The ongoing backaches and cramps maybe due to electrolyte depletion. Ok if you won't go to the hospital there is an alternative that might help despite your stomach. In the children's/baby section there is popsicles that replenishes your electrolytes. Freeze them and suck on them slowly. You're dehydrating. You've gotta get some electrolytes down somehow....Use a heating pad to help relax your stomach/intestines as well might help.
I don't agree. The hospital ER may only complicate matters. It's bound to be full of sick people. You may even get sicker from them. And they will surely give you the swine vaccine too. (if they have it in stock.)
That's what the Lisbon Treaty's been all about? What specifics are the worst? Wait - lemme guess: Accepting Third World freeploaders....er I mean freeloaders? ICC will rule on Irish matters?
Sometymes within yor posts, you really act like a devil don't you?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
This is what I am going to attempt in order to kick my thyroid in. Whether it will work or not is yet to be seen but I do know that when I drank Kombucha I did end up having to lower my thyroid medicine. I am purging my body and getting it up to health by doing the following 1. Taking 17.5% food grade H2O2 This is like putting extra oxygen in my body 2. Doing the Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth. I really like this stuff and will continue on with it throughout and after I am done with some of the other stuff. 3. Fucoxanthin-Fucoxanthin is an all natural pigment found in Wakame Seaweed from the Sea of Japan. Fucoxanthin, when taken in small doses, targets abdominal fat and breaks it down allowing the body to metabolize it. This breakdown is known as metabolic thermogenesis and it's discovery has intrigued doctors and scientists everywhere. Study after study verifies that fucoxanthin is a safe, effective way to combat fat accumulation, especially in the stomach and abdominal regions. Fucoxanthin is a new and innovative way to reduce excess body fat and increase energy while still allowing you to go about your normal lifestyle. Evidence shows that Fucoxanthin is a powerful antioxidant and protects cells from free radical damage. It may also support your: Cardiovascular Health Inflammatory Response Optimal Cholesterol and Triglyceride Levels Optimal Blood Pressure Levels Healthy Liver Function Thyroid Health Fights against Diabetes & Cancer I imagine that it does contain some iodine and what caused the heart to react due to over stimulation of the thyroid. Although I would be ecstatic to loss some weight this is not the main reason I am taking this it is for my thyroid. After two weeks I will stop the Fucoxanthin then I will go on HCG HCG Diet Frequently Asked Questions What is HCG and how does it work? HCG is a hormone naturally produced in the body. It has many functions and is used medically to treat a variety of conditions. It is the pregnancy hormone. This hormone allows the body to metabolize fat and use it as energy for both mother and fetus. This acts as a “fail-safe” mechanism when energy is needed immediately. For weight loss, we use only a very small amount of HCG to capitalize on this same mechanism. Using HCG in this way does not mimic pregnancy; in fact, it can be safely used by both men and women. I guess it is a big diet thing and can be very costly but I got it for $40.00 a bottle. My main reason for this is I found it doing a research on the thyroid. And on the website it has this below. What is the Hypothalamus? The hypothalamus is involved in your metabolism "setpoint". With age, the hypothalamus builds up toxins & begins to malfunction. It may explain part of why our metabolism goes down with age, we have more & more sleeping difficulties, and hormonal/ovulatory disturbances as well as other symptoms. The Hypothalamus is the control center of all autonomic regulatory activities of the body. It has been said that the hypothalamus is the brain of the brain. It is the hub for automatic and endocrine homeostatic systems such as cardiovascular, temperature, and abdominal visceral regulation. It manages all endocrine hormonal levels, sensory processing, and organizing body metabolism, as well as ingestion behaviors. It appears that almost everything the Hypothalamus does is related in some way to the management of brain and body connection, linking the psyche (mind) to the body. The hypothalamus controls: Pituitary gland regulation Blood Pressure regulation Hunger & Salt cravings Feeding Reflexes Thirst Body temperature regulation Hydration Heart rate Bladder function (hcg can remedy prostate problems) Water preservation Hormonal/neurotransmitter regulation Ovarian function Testicular function Mood & behavioral functions Wakefulness Metabolism Sleep cycles Energy levels In addition, homeopathic hcg on it's own is used for: Increasing energy Increasing muscle tone Reducing excess body fat Rejuvenation of necessary structural fat Lowering cholesterol levels Improving adrenal gland function Maintaining progesterone levels With this I am suppose to be on 500 calorie diet for a month. If I can get my pituitary gland to kick in I believe this will help my thyroid. After a month I go off this and will go back on to the Fucoxanthin if needed. Then in a month back on the HCG if I have lost the weight I desire to the second time I will not diet but just take the HCG. So this is my plan. Time will tell if it works or not. I am sick of the FDA and having to go to the doctors every year for my thyroid. If I can get off the medicine I will be happy.
The poster needs IV fluids/electrolytes and maybe a shot of compazine NOW. Any hospital worth it's salt will put him in isolation. Flu vaccines are contraindicated in a person while suffering from the flu.
Stop - I'm blushing. Hey - you and the gang knock off that bottle of Petron yet?
I don't know many hospitals that don't make all patients wait in the waiting room for hours with a bunch of other sick people. Then, you gotta' wait at the next "check-point" for quite a while in big room, seperated only by cloth drapes, Right.? So, the patient is exposed to a variety of unknown airborn viruses before even seeing a quack. Right.? And, chances are, most ER will be sizzlin' crowded with sick folks too. Right.? So, all I can say, is, avoid hospitals and clinics at all cost unless the fever is really extreme.
Thanks for the detailed info... Food Grade hydrogen peroxide? I've used it sparingly. Have you used it effectively? If there are possible ulcers, it can't be good. Did the Kombucha Tea noticably jack up you thyroid THAT much? I've intended to try some but failed to for whatever reason. Never heard of Fucoxanthin-Fucoxanthin. You just wonder how cost-effective that will be. Diatomaceous Earth - how is that effective? It's my understand here that HCG stimulates the hypothalamus...never heard of it, but I'll check it out. Please let me know if/how it's affective for you. Intriguing regimen you've set up.
Just curious do you still have your appendix? When mine ruptured in 1999 I thought I just had the stomach flu since it had been going around. Those severe cramps sound like when I had food poisoning once. If you have a pain in the lower right side when it is pushed on you may want to have your appendix checked out.
Did the Kombucha Tea noticably jack up you thyroid THAT much? I've intended to try some but failed to for whatever reason. Never heard of Fucoxanthin-Fucoxanthin. You just wonder how cost-effective that will be. Diatomaceous Earth - how is that effective? It's my understand here that HCG stimulates the hypothalamus...never heard of it, but I'll check it out. Please let me know if/how it's affective for you. Intriguing regimen you've set up. I had to have it lowered by one I believe at that time I was on Levoxyl I think 125 mg. The only other stuff I was taking was Cayenne and HGH. But the levels did seem to change after I began drinking the Kombucha a couple times a week. Then I switched to the Armour the natural thyroid. Man I had major problems with my doctors office. I began having severe heart palpitations every time I took the dose. His nurse who had now became his wife decided since then lowered my dose, and then switched to Armour that two switches were enough. I told her I would cut one in half every second day and that I was not going to have a heart attack. I mean one night it was so bad if I had not had the muscle relaxer I would have ended up at the hospital. I would love to hear about your experience with Food Grade hydrogen peroxide and any success you feel that you have had with it, or any adverse effects. This is my first time with it once I purge I will only use maybe 4 or 5 drops daily. As far as the Fucoxanthin it was the most expensive at $60 a jar. I do not intend to take it as I would the thyroid forever. I am hoping it will somehow help stimulate it and with the other it would kick it in. The Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth is wonderful. The muscle relaxers I get very usually very few are for the times when I sleep on a pillow wrong and get horrendous headaches, or read to much with my head in a certain position. My muscles get so tight and knotted up and are normally that way from an old whiplash I had. Since I have begun using the Diatomaceous Earth I feel much more relaxation in my muscles. Little cracks here and there as it is going into place. I noticed my shoulders are straighter. I really like this stuff it is great at least so far. My sense of smell is also coming back. Are you taking thyroid medicine currently? If so are you taking natural or synthetic? I really don't want to go back on the synthetic and I think they may stop manufacturing the natural.
I tend to stay away from doctors, but you might want to listen to some of the posters. It might not be the flu that's causing all your problems. I also agree you need to get some fluid and electrolytes in you stat. If you don't go to the ER look up taking fluid by enema. It will bypass your stomach yet be absorbed by your body. Here's one: www.health-information-fi...com/dehydration-enema.htm More tips: ask.metafilter.com/106070...-vomiting-and-diarrheaing Pain can be caused by dehydration: www.watercure2.org/pain.htm Water [and sea salt] Cure overview: www.spiritportal.org/water-cure.html Salt Water was not enough in this case. "muscle cramps were ironically the result of dehydration and a lack of sodium, magnesium and calcium." www.watercure2.org/cramps.htm "...Magnesium Deficiency Can Seriously Impact Your Health 5. When a doctor’s patient dies of influenza, it is not the virus that is deadly, but the patient’s compromised immune system due to chronic, long-standing deficiencies of vitamin C and magnesium intake, combined with the drugs and vaccines that doctors use that send old and young alike to their graves. ....." www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/magnesium.htm If you don't have magnesium oil, take an epsom salt bath. It is not as long-lasting, but should help to get some magnesium into you right now. If that stops the cramps, you might want to try taking some Emitrol for the nausea. If you try these and they don't help, get to an emergency room. You HAVE to get some fluid and electrolytes in you for starters. You HAVE to. The safest thing would be to go to the ER now. Dehydration can be life-threatening. Needless to say, a burst appendix is as well.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Just noticed your tagline ... if there's ONE SINGLE THING responsible for the tragedy unfolding in America and the world, it's central banking/private- fiat currency and credit created and distributed by banking vultures ... THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANKING SYSTEM and its replacement entity the IMF ! I wish we were able to increase the awareness level to the extent that a few billionaires like Mark Cuban would join together to create a metals backed economic system that would be a partial cure for the fake system we have now. We also need to bring back production of goods to America so the people have real employment. When Jefferson and others commented that the fiat system's owners could crush the people by inflating and deflating the currency, they were describing exactly what we're witnessing today. If those fellas were still here the bankers wouldn't be.
The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity and possibly your soul.
What specifics are the worst? Wait - lemme guess: Accepting Third World freeploaders....er I mean freeloaders? Unbridled immigration ISN'T the worst thing about it - it's the fact that the sovereignty of the 27 Member States has been surrendered to the EU. And that Lisbon is a blueprint for a totalitarian state - the most powerful executives will, like the preceding European Commission, will be unelected, only they'll officially be the government of the EU with absolute power. ICC will rule on Irish matters? We unfortunately already voted for that, few Irish voters actually realised it was an embryonic organ of world government. I voted against it, a majority of Irish people didn't. I suppose, maybe, you mean the European Court of Justice? The answer is yes, they can rule on Irish affairs, and on issues where the Irish Constitution is in conflict with the EU - the court will rule in favour of the EU as is the terms of Lisbon.
POSTING FROM INSIDE THE NEW IRON CURTAIN
I have had family members with flu over the years. Once my husband and child had flu at the same time. I never got it. It's got to be some natural immunity to it. However, I am susceptible to other things. Oh, yeah, I have had other health problems.
I assumed your sovereignty was sacrificed to the whims of the EU. And that Lisbon is a blueprint for a totalitarian state - the most powerful executives will, like the preceding European Commission, will be unelected, only they'll officially be the government of the EU with absolute power. IOW, the EU is being run like a Corporation...or Dictatorship. Lovely. We unfortunately already voted for that [ICC], few Irish voters actually realised it was an embryonic organ of world government. I voted against it, a majority of Irish people didn't. I suppose, maybe, you mean the European Court of Justice? The answer is yes, they can rule on Irish affairs, and on issues where the Irish Constitution is in conflict with the EU - the court will rule in favour of the EU as is the terms of Lisbon. You have your pods, we have ours....Thus if/when eventually the Irish citizenry passionately do NOT concur an ICC judicial ruling and refuse to be compliant, I reckon the penalty will either be an EU police action OR a blockade OR economic sanctions. Living in the End Times sure is interesting, isn't it?
No, I haven't had swine flu. I have, however, had the Pigeon Sniffles, and last week I had Cow Cough.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
Not when you go by ambulance.
Yes, but it's being challenged the way the Irish government conducted itself during the Referendum campaign - several breaches of Irish law. Even the possibility of electoral fraud. IOW, the EU is being run like a Corporation...or Dictatorship. Lovely. Effectively, yes. You have your pods, we have ours....Thus if/when eventually the Irish citizenry passionately do NOT concur an ICC judicial ruling and refuse to be compliant, I reckon the penalty will either be an EU police action OR a blockade OR economic sanctions. Well, when you consider that some of the above were used as threats in the campaign, I suppose so! Living in the End Times sure is interesting, isn't it? As I said to some over at LP yesterday - I like to think that Man will carry on for a few more millenia until God calls him home, but I'll keep it in mind, just in case.
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My 3-year old niece had it last week, my brother self-quarantined the whole house from visitors and my sister-in-law and nephew stayed home all week. She was lucky that it was just equivalent to a nasty cold in her case.
_________________________________________________________________________ Abraxas has not posted today, and while that could mean he had a fast recovery and is back at work somehow I doubt it.
Throughout the centuries, Abraxas has also been variously claimed to be an Egyptian god, a demon,[1] and to represent God and Satan in one entity and the dual nature of its essence.[2] A most interesting nic.
The football'ers here drank Pedialyte & gatoraid when they were down (15 to 20 were sick at one time two weeks ago).
Are the guys back to full speed in Happy Valley?
Yes and no. We've had a few kids relapse, or get it for the first time, which has left each game day starting line up a last minute affair.
JoPa should have enough depth on the roster to be more than competitive I'm guessing. The olde fart's been at it long enough.
Jim, when I find out what he drinks, I'll drop you a PM. The guy looks and acts at least 10 years younger. He still has dark hair! I'm hoping it was all that Brooklyn pizza he scarfed down as a kid. If so, I might have the gene :)
Dude is an amazing legend in his own time. Truly, one of a kind - and then the mold was smashed to smithereens.
Hi all. Wanted to hop on with an update. I was worshipping the porcelain god up until about midnight last night. Slept for about seven hours after that go round. Woke up very thristy. The water went down well and didn't cause any cramping. So, I ventured for seven saltines. Held them down too. Went back to sleep for about three hours. Ate a banana and kept it down while continueing to drink lots of water. Had some hot Zoom cereal and that's staying down too. YIPPIE!! Having food in my tummy makes me sleepy so I've been dozing in and out all day. I was reading some of the commentary on the possibility of food poisening. I hadn't thought of that and I've never had it before, but that would make sense with the awful stomach cramping. Maybe I just hopped onto blaming swine flu because that virus is all the talk of all the towns. Guilt by association perhaps. Just wanted to let everybody know that I'm alive and well, even had a smile return today. Thank you all for your wonderful advice and best wishes!!! You folks at 4um are the best.
Welcome back. Get over it soon. (You'll be broke if you buy all the stuff that we've put out there for you.) Fluids, rest and electrolytes are the biggies, imo.
Blame it all on Carl Jung and his Seven Sermons to the Dead (a great short read if you like mythology mixed with theology and psychology) along with Abraxas respresenting the Lord of the Frogs......I'm fond of frogs. : )
Thank you Loddy. You know, I hadn't had any good rest for days. It's made a world of difference. I keep on chugging the water to flush any remaining bad mojo in the belly. Yes, I was looking at the cost of some of the remedies. I have had to take a few items off the list. : )
Amen. Nothing much better than a skillet of fried bull-frog legs. Except that with all the garbage in the environment, our bull-frog friends have gone away to a large extent. I had a good time reading about Abraxas and all that it has represented over the centuries.
I bet you would enjoy the Seven Sermons of the Dead too. I was re-reading that one just as I found 4um and hence the handle. : ) I've never eaten any frogs, but I've always been fond of them. I used to catch them when I was a kid and still have a soft spot for Kermit.
I will check it out - thank you. Most all of our pets have been named for authors that I was reading when we got them. For whatever that's worth, or not. Cheers. Stay safe and be well.
You had me worried as you seemed to be getting worse, with the body cramps and all. Swine flu does cause them in some cases, which is why some go into kidney failure when the blood volume becomes too low from dehydration. Glad you are over the hump! But make sure you also continue to monitor your voiding habits for any changes.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestWith this crap it's the worst just before I have to vomit. All clammy and flush with cramps and backache so bad I can't stand. I want to sleep but even that is proving difficult due to the backache and cramping.
#59. To: buckeroo, critter, abraxas (#1)
Nurse Ratchet wants you in line at the local dispensary for your shot.
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
#60. To: mininggold, abraxas (#58)
Go to the friggin hospital ER NOW.
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
#61. To: abraxas (#53)
I can't even keep down homemade chicken noodle soup. Lost it all when I tried yesterday. No food today, as the last two times I tried the smallest bit the cramps and backache came on and I had to give it up. I'm struggling to drink water right now.
#62. To: mininggold (#58)
hospital ER NOW
#63. To: irishthatcherite (#50)
our economy is the most fucked in the developed world. Imagine, tyranny and depression rolled into one - might as well throw in a blight on the spuds....
#64. To: Liberator (#63)
#65. To: Liberator (#47)
Curious about your thyroid "recipe." Iodine part of it?
#66. To: sizzlerguy (#62)
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I don't agree. The hospital ER may only complicate matters. It's bound to be full of sick people. You may even get sicker from them. And they will surely give you the swine vaccine too. (if they have it in stock.)
#67. To: buckeroo (#64)
Sometymes within yor posts, you really act like a devil don't you?
#68. To: mininggold (#66)
in isolation
#69. To: MiracleRose7 (#65)
#70. To: abraxas (#0)
#71. To: Liberator (#69)
Food Grade hydrogen peroxide? I've used it sparingly. Have you used it effectively? If there are possible ulcers, it can't be good.
#72. To: abraxas (#54)
Magnesium is nothing short of a miracle mineral in its healing effect on a wide range of diseases as well as in its ability to rejuvenate the aging body. Symptoms of magnesium deficiency may include agitation and anxiety, restless leg syndrome (RLS), sleep disorders, irritability, nausea and vomiting, abnormal heart rhythms, low blood pressure, confusion, muscle spasm and weakness, hyperventilation, insomnia, and even seizures.....
#73. To: christine (#37)
#74. To: Liberator (#63)
That's what the Lisbon Treaty's been all about?
#75. To: christine (#38)
same here. i don't think i've ever had the flu and i can't remember the last time i was even sick. looking for wood to knock on.
#76. To: irishthatcherite (#74)
Unbridled immigration ISN'T the worst thing about it - it's the fact that the sovereignty of the 27 Member States has been surrendered to the EU.
#77. To: abraxas (#0)
#78. To: sizzlerguy (#68)
I don't know many hospitals that don't make all patients wait in the waiting room for hours with a bunch of other sick people.
#79. To: Liberator (#76)
I assumed your sovereignty was sacrificed to the whims of the EU.
#80. To: abraxas (#0)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#81. To: X-15, Abraxas (#80)
My 3-year old niece had it last week, my brother self-quarantined the whole house from visitors and my sister-in-law and nephew stayed home all week. She was lucky that it was just equivalent to a nasty cold in her case.
#82. To: mininggold. all (#81)
from wiki -
#83. To: abraxas (#0)
#84. To: Jethro Tull (#83)
#85. To: Lod (#84)
#86. To: Jethro Tull (#85)
#87. To: Lod (#86)
#88. To: Jethro Tull (#87)
#89. To: All (#88)
here's a good link to the peppermint/spearmint oil farm -
#90. To: All (#0)
#91. To: abraxas (#90)
#92. To: Lod (#82)
A most interesting nic.
#93. To: Lod (#91)
#94. To: abraxas (#92)
I'm fond of frogs.
#95. To: Lod (#94)
I had a good time reading about Abraxas and all that it has represented over the centuries.
#96. To: abraxas (#95)
#97. To: abraxas (#90)
I was reading some of the commentary on the possibility of food poisening. I hadn't thought of that and I've never had it before, but that would make sense with the awful stomach cramping. Maybe I just hopped onto blaming swine flu because that virus is all the talk of all the towns. Guilt by association perhaps.
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