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Title: BEWARE OF THE PSYCHOPATH MY SON (Interesting Read)
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URL Source: http://carolynbaker.net/site/content/view/485
Published: Oct 7, 2009
Author: Clinton Callahan
Post Date: 2009-10-07 00:27:18 by christine
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[The following is extracted from two articles: Twilight of the Psychopaths, by Dr. Kevin Barrett and The Trick of the Psychopath's Trade by Silvia Cattori. Both articles are recommended. Both articles reference the book Political Ponerology: A science on the nature of evil adjusted for political purposes, by Andrzej Lobaczewski. Cattori's article is longer and includes an interview with the book's editors, Laura Knight-Jadczyk and Henry See.]

I make the effort to share this information because it gives me, at last, a plausible answer to a long-unanswered question: Why, no matter how much intelligent goodwill exists in the world, is there so much war, suffering and injustice? It doesn't seem to matter what creative plan, ideology, religion, or philosophy great minds come up with, nothing seems to improve our lot. Since the dawn of civilization, this pattern repeats itself over and over again.

The answer is that civilization, as we know it, is largely the creation of psychopaths. All civilizations, our own included, have been built on slavery and mass murder. Psychopaths have played a disproportionate role in the development of civilization, because they are hard-wired to lie, kill, cheat, steal, torture, manipulate, and generally inflict great suffering on other humans without feeling any remorse, in order to establish their own sense of security through domination. The inventor of civilization - the first tribal chieftain who successfully brainwashed an army of controlled mass murderers - was almost certainly a genetic psychopath. Since that momentous discovery, psychopaths have enjoyed a significant advantage over non-psychopaths in the struggle for power in civilizational hierarchies - especially military hierarchies.

Behind the apparent insanity of contemporary history, is the actual insanity of psychopaths fighting to preserve their disproportionate power. And as their power grows ever-more-threatened, the psychopaths grow ever-more-desperate. We are witnessing the apotheosis of the overworld - the overlapping criminal syndicates that lurk above ordinary society and law just as the underworld lurks below it.

During the past fifty years, psychopaths have gained almost absolute control of all the branches of government. You can notice this if you observe carefully that no matter what illegal thing a modern politician does, no one will really take him to task. All of the so called scandals that have come up, any one of which would have taken down an authentic administration, are just farces played out for the public, to distract them, to make them think that the democracy is still working.

One of the main factors to consider in terms of how a society can be taken over by a group of pathological deviants is that the psychopaths' only limitation is the participation of susceptible individuals within that given society. Lobaczewski gives an average figure for the most active deviants of approximately 6% of a given population. (1% essential psychopaths and up to 5% other psychopathies and characteropathies.) The essential psychopath is at the center of the web. The others form the first tier of the psychopath's control system.

The next tier of such a system is composed of individuals who were born normal, but are either already warped by long-term exposure to psychopathic material via familial or social influences, or who, through psychic weakness have chosen to meet the demands of psychopathy for their own selfish ends. Numerically, according to Lobaczewski, this group is about 12% of a given population under normal conditions.

So approximately 18% of any given population is active in the creation and imposition of a Pathocracy. The 6% group constitutes the Pathocratic nobility and the 12% group forms the new bourgeoisie, whose economic situation is the most advantageous.

When you understand the true nature of psychopathic influence, that it is conscienceless, emotionless, selfish, cold and calculating, and devoid of any moral or ethical standards, you are horrified, but at the same time everything suddenly begins to makes sense. Our society is ever more soulless because the people who lead it and who set the example are soulless - they literally have no conscience.

In his book Political Ponerology, Andrej Lobaczewski explains that clinical psychopaths enjoy advantages even in non-violent competitions to climb the ranks of social hierarchies. Because they can lie without remorse (and without the telltale physiological stress that is measured by lie detector tests), psychopaths can always say whatever is necessary to get what they want. In court, for example, psychopaths can tell extreme bald-faced lies in a plausible manner, while their sane opponents are handicapped by an emotional predisposition to remain within hailing distance of the truth. Too often, the judge or jury imagines that the truth must be somewhere in the middle, and then issues decisions that benefit the psychopath. As with judges and juries, so too with those charged with decisions concerning who to promote and who not to promote in corporate, military and governmental hierarchies. The result is that all hierarchies inevitably become top-heavy with psychopaths. Since psychopaths have no limitations on what they can or will do to get to the top, the ones in charge are generally pathological. It is not power that corrupts, it is that corrupt individuals seek power.

How can we distinguish between psychopaths and healthy people? What is the portrait of a true psychopath?

Such a dangerous question has almost never been successfully asked. The reason is that we mistakenly confuse healthy for normal. Human psychological diversity is the health of our race. There is no normal because healthy humans continuously evolve beyond all normalizing standards. The terrorism of searching through hierarchies for anyone deviating from normal is no different from witch hunts or Inquisitions. You must remember that hierarchies thrive on such low dramas, torturing victims until they confess to evil beliefs. Not so long ago the church and state ongoingly acquired significant income and property through witch hunts and Inquisitions. This continued for over two hundred and fifty years. Ten generations of Europeans understood pogrom as normal life. Let us not return to that nightmare. Testing for normal is guaranteed to backfire in our face. There is no normal. But there is conscience.

We have very little empirical evidence to support the idea that true psychopathy is the result of an abused childhood, and much empirical evidence to support that it is genetic. The neurobiological model offers us the greatest hope of being able to identify even the most devious psychopath. Other recent studies lead to similar results and conclusions: that psychopaths have great difficulty processing verbal and nonverbal affective (emotional) material, that they tend to confuse the emotional significance of events, and most importantly, that these deficits show up in brain scans! A missing internal connection between the feeling heart and the thinking brain is detectable.

Psychopaths are incapable of authentic deep emotions. In fact, when Robert Hare, a Canadian psychologist who spent his career studying psychopathy, did brain scans on psychopaths while showing them two sets of words, one set of neutral words with no emotional associations and a second set with emotionally charged words, while different areas of the brain lit up in the non-psychopathic control group, in the psychopaths, both sets were processed in the same area of the brain, the area that deals with language. They did not have an emotional reaction until they intellectually concluded that it would be better if they had one, and then they whipped up an emotional response just for show.

The simplest, clearest and truest portrait of the psychopath is given in the titles of three seminal works on the subject: Without Conscience by Robert Hare, The Mask of Sanity by Hervey Cleckley, and Snakes in Suits by Robert Hare and Paul Babiak. A psychopath is exactly that: conscienceless. The most important thing to remember is that this lack of conscience is hidden from view behind a mask of normality that is often so convincing that even experts are deceived. As a result, psychopaths become the Snakes in Suits that control our world.

Psychopaths lack a sense of remorse or empathy with others. They can be extremely charming and are experts at using talk to charm and hypnotize their prey. They are also irresponsible. Nothing is ever their fault; someone else or the world at large is always to blame for all of their problems or their mistakes. Martha Stout, in her book The Sociopath Next Door, identifies what she calls the pity ploy. Psychopaths use pity to manipulate. They convince you to give them one more chance, and to not tell anyone about what they have done. So another trait - and a very important one - is their ability to control the flow of information.

They also seem to have little real conception of past or future, living entirely for their immediate needs and desires. Because of the barren quality of their inner life, they are often seeking new thrills, anything from feeling the power of manipulating others to engaging in illegal activities simply for the rush of adrenaline.

Another trait of the psychopath is what Lobaczewski calls their special psychological knowledge of normal people. They have studied us. They know us better than we know ourselves. They are experts in knowing how to push our buttons, to use our emotions against us. But beyond that, they even seem to have some sort of hypnotic power over us. When we begin to get caught up in the web of the psychopath, our ability to think deteriorates, gets muddied. They seem to cast some sort of spell over us. It is only later when we are no longer in their presence, out of their spell, that the clarity of thought returns and we find ourselves wondering how it was that we were unable to respond or counter what they were doing.

Psychopaths learn to recognize each other in a crowd as early as childhood, and they develop an awareness of the existence of other individuals similar to themselves. They also become conscious of being of a different world from the majority of other people surrounding them. They view us from a certain distance.

Think about the ramifications of this statement: Psychopaths are, to some extent, self-aware as a group even in childhood! Recognizing their fundamental difference from the rest of humanity, their allegiance would be to others of their kind, that is, to other psychopaths.

Their own twisted sense of honor compels them to cheat and revile non-psychopaths and their values. In contradiction to the ideals of normal people, psychopaths feel breaking promises and agreements is normal behavior.

Not only do they covet possessions and power and feel they have the right to them just because they exist and can take them, but they gain special pleasure in usurping and taking from others; what they can plagiarize, swindle, and extort are fruits far sweeter than those they can earn through honest labor. They also learn very early how their personalities can have traumatizing effects on the personalities of non-psychopaths, and how to take advantage of this root of terror for purposes of achieving their goals.

So now, imagine how human beings who are totally in the dark about the presence of psychopaths can be easily deceived and manipulated by these individuals, gaining power in different countries, pretending to be loyal to the local populations while at the same time playing up obvious and easily discernable physical differences between groups (such as race, skin color, religion, etc). Psychologically normal humans would be set against one another on the basis of unimportant differences (think of Rwanda 1994, think of Israelis and Palestinians) while the deviants in power, with a fundamental difference from the rest of us, a lack of conscience, an inability to feel for another human being, reaped the benefits and pulled the strings.

We are seeing the final desperate power-grab or endgame (Alex Jones) of brutal, cunning gangs of CIA drug-runners and President-killers; money-laundering international bankers and their hit-men - economic and otherwise; corrupt military contractors and gung-ho generals; corporate predators and their political enablers; brainwashers and mind-rapists euphemistically known as psy-ops and PR specialists - in short, the whole crew of certifiable psychopaths running our so-called civilization. And they are running scared.

Why does the Pathocracy fear losing its control? Because it is threatened by the spread of knowledge. The greatest fear of any psychopath is of being found out.

Psychopaths go through life knowing that they are completely different from other people. Deep down they know something is missing in them. They quickly learn to hide their lack of empathy, while carefully studying others' emotions so as to mimic normalcy while cold-bloodedly manipulating the normals.

Today, thanks to new information technologies, we are on the brink of unmasking the psychopaths and building a civilization of, by and for the healthy human being - a civilization without war, a civilization based on truth, a civilization in which the saintly few rather than the diabolical few would gravitate to positions of power. We already have the knowledge necessary to diagnose psychopathic personalities and keep them out of power. We have the knowledge necessary to dismantle the institutions in which psychopaths especially flourish - militaries, intelligence agencies, large corporations, and secret societies. We simply need to disseminate this knowledge, and the will to use it, as widely and as quickly as possible.

Until the knowledge and awareness of pathological human beings is given the attention it deserves and becomes part of the general knowledge of all human beings, there is no way that things can be changed in any way that is effective and long-lasting. If half the people agitating for truth or stopping the war or saving the earth would focus their efforts, time and money on exposing psychopathy, we might get somewhere.

One might ask if the weak point of our society has been our tolerance of psychopathic behavior? Our disbelief that someone could seem like an intelligent leader and still be acting deceptively on their own behalf without conscience? Or is it merely ignorance?

If the general voting public is not aware that there exists a category of people we sometimes perceive as almost human, who look like us, who work with us, who are found in every race, every culture, speaking every language, but who are lacking conscience, how can the general public take care to block them from taking over the hierarchies? General ignorance of psychopathology may prove to be the downfall of civilization. We stand by like grazing sheep as political/corporate elites throw armies of our innocent sons and daughters against fabricated enemies as a way of generating trillions in profits, vying against each other for pathological hegemony.

Nearly everyone who has been part of an organization working for social change has probably seen the same dynamic play out: The good and sincere work of many can be destroyed by the actions of one person. That doesn't bode well for bringing some sort of justice to the planet! In fact, if psychopaths dominate political hierarchies, is it any wonder that peaceful demonstrations have zero impact on the outcome of political decisions? Perhaps it is time to choose something other than massive, distant hierarchies as a way of governing ourselves?

So many efforts to provide essays, research reports, exposés and books to leaders so they might take the new information to heart and change their behavior have come to naught. For example, in the final paragraph of his revised edition of the book, The Party's Over, Richard Heinberg writes:

I still believe that if the people of the world can be helped to understand the situation we are in, the options available, and the consequences of the path we are currently on, then it is at least possible that they can be persuaded to undertake the considerable effort and sacrifice that will be entailed in a peaceful transition to a sustainable, locally based, decentralized, low-energy, resource-conserving social regime. But inspired leadership will be required.

And that is the just-murdered fantasy. There are no inspired leaders anymore. And in hierarchical structures there can't be. Assuming that you can elect men or women to office who will see reason and the light of day, and who will change and learn and grow, make compassionate decisions and take conscientious actions... is a foolish, childish dream. Continuing to dream it simply plays into psychopathic agendas.

Only when the 75% of humanity with a healthy conscience come to understand that we have a natural predator, a group of people who live amongst us, viewing us as powerless victims to be freely fed upon for achieving their inhuman ends, only then will we take the fierce and immediate actions needed to defend what is preciously human. Psychological deviants have to be removed from any position of power over people of conscience, period. People must be made aware that such individuals exist and must learn how to spot them and their manipulations. The hard part is that one must also struggle against those tendencies to mercy and kindness in oneself in order not to become prey.

The real problem is that the knowledge of psychopathy and how psychopaths rule the world has been effectively hidden. People do not have the adequate, nuanced knowledge they need to really make a change from the bottom up. Again and again, throughout history it has been meet the new boss, same as the old boss. If there is any work that is deserving of full time efforts and devotion for the sake of helping humanity in this present dark time, it is the study of psychopathy and the propagation of this information as far and wide and fast as possible.

There are only two things that can bring a psychopath under submission:

A bigger psychopath.

The non-violent, absolute refusal to submit to psychopathic controls no matter the consequences (non-violent noncompliance).

Let us choose path 2! If individuals simply sat down and refused to lift a hand to further one single aim of the psychopathic agenda, if people refused to pay taxes, if soldiers refused to fight, if government workers and corporate drones and prison guards refused to go to work, if doctors refused to treat psychopathic elites and their families, the whole system would grind to a screeching halt.

True change happens in the moment that a person becomes aware of psychopathy in all its chilling details. From this new awareness, the world looks different, and entirely new actions can be taken. Distinguishing between human and psychopathic qualities begins the foundation of responsibility upon which we have a real chance to create sustainable culture.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Psychopaths learn to recognize each other in a crowd as early as childhood, ..

This informative article explains why my mother and father got married, and why the mayor of my town replaced an honest police chief with the current chief of police too.

They are all psychopaths.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-10-07   0:48:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: sizzlerguy (#1)

This informative article explains why my mother and father got married

how is it that you survived with your heart intact?

"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency Bill."--Charles Lindbergh, Sr.

christine  posted on  2009-10-07   0:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#2)

how is it that.... survived.. intact?

Well, since the latest "adventure", I don't think that my father is my true biological dad. I've been "concerned" about that for some time lately.

And, for more "Family Secrets", dad's nephews and nieces look, talk, and especially think exactly like he does. Habitual liars and sinister minded wackos. I'm guessin' that his brother had a "problem" and they had an "agreement".

So, that would explain why I ain't nothin' like he and they are, and why I never wanted to be like him, and a lot of other things too.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-10-07   1:16:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine, all (#0)

...Because they can lie without remorse (and without the telltale physiological stress that is measured by lie detector tests), psychopaths can always say whatever is necessary to get what they want....

I remember watching a TV show about a new lie-detector software someone had made. It analyzed all the facial muscles and the (I forget how many - thousands I think) number of combinations of facial expressions there are. Some facial expressions would occur when a lie was told.

This same show talked about polygraphs and how some people could cheat them.

The ones who could (psychopaths I guess) usually ended up in one or more of three careers.

Law, Acting and Politics.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-07   1:53:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#0)

Let us choose path 2! If individuals simply sat down and refused to lift a hand to further one single aim of the psychopathic agenda, if people refused to pay taxes, if soldiers refused to fight, if government workers and corporate drones and prison guards refused to go to work, if doctors refused to treat psychopathic elites and their families, the whole system would grind to a screeching halt.

Great article.

It really helps to understand the enemy of peace and justice, especially when that enemy is in control. If I've said it once, I've said it a kazillion times, "good people don't need the laws and bad people don't heed the laws."

The positions of lawmakers, judges, and enforcers are highly sought after by psychopaths.

The good people in society are practically unarmed against an evil enemy that poses as a just authority. The good people going about their daily business have no conception of the extent of evil that surrounds them until it raises its ugly head like a snake and strikes them personally. (The most disturbing thing is that they get us to abuse each other, ie. even school teachers, school nurses, honest cops, judges etc.,)

The advice given by the authors is a peaceful method of resisting tyranny. I have never been a religious zealot even though I study the Bible for a number of reasons. One of those reasons is because much wisdom is contained therein. If we quit blaming the Bible for the acts done by men "in God's name" (a different species of psychopaths called preachers or priests) and simply lived our lives by the basic 10 Commandments, we would be useless to the psychopaths, they couldn't get us to further their agenda, and they wouldn't be able to USE US carry out their evil against us.

Thanks for the article.

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity and possibly your soul.

noone222  posted on  2009-10-07   5:05:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: noone222 (#5)

The good people in society are practically unarmed against an evil enemy that poses as a just authority. The good people going about their daily business have no conception of the extent of evil that surrounds them until it raises its ugly head like a snake and strikes them personally.

that is so true. i recognize it myself in those who are in power, but not to the degree that this writer articulated. i knew you'd find it compelling.

"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency Bill."--Charles Lindbergh, Sr.

christine  posted on  2009-10-07   9:57:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine, noone222 (#6)

you said it

bump


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-07   10:12:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine (#6)

The classic example of this was 9/11. That was an attack on us by people in authority, but they were not in a cave in Afghanistan. One of the chief culprits was in the situation room of the White House.

In response, Cheney “whipped his neck around and said, ‘Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?’”

Snake Cheney struck us personally and we eagerly lined up for more, waving the flag for him for several years after that. The United States of America committed economic suicide while attempting to pursue the PNAC strategy. It is NEVER coming back as a major power. The dollar will soon lose most of the rest of its remaining value. This is good news for the rest of the world, but bad news for unprepared Americans.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-10-07   10:50:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Sam Houston (#8)

Your boy, Puppet Obamalamadingdong, will get to the bottom of the illegal shadow government's attack on us and bring ALL the troops home from UNCONstitutional 'actions'...LOL


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-07   10:52:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#0)

It is not power that corrupts, it is that corrupt individuals seek power. Bump.

What an excellent article and analysis. Thank you.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-10-07   10:53:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#0)

Let us choose path 2! If individuals simply sat down and refused to lift a hand to further one single aim of the psychopathic agenda, if people refused to pay taxes, if soldiers refused to fight, if government workers and corporate drones and prison guards refused to go to work, if doctors refused to treat psychopathic elites and their families, the whole system would grind to a screeching halt.

This really does not make sense given the context of the article and description of a psychopath.

This action would inevitably bring violence upon those refusing to cooperate by the surrogates they employ. Just another tier of psycopath.

Ultimately you will submit, or fight! Sad to say, and just an opinion.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-10-07   11:27:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: wudidiz, Jethro Tull, Cynicom, Original_Intent, Eric Stratton, Too Conservative, Rotara, Lod, Esso, Lysander_Spooner, sizzlerguy, Sam Houston, phantom_patriot, farmfriend, abraxas, Ferret Mike, all (#4)

Law, Acting and Politics.

when my husband was doing his 2 yr postdoctoral program to become certified in neuropsychology, his mentor had this to say, "Learn to recognize a psychopath (sociopath) and never EVER get involved with one." she also said, "the low-IQ psychopaths end up in prison and the high-IQ psychopaths end up as lawyers and politicians (most politicians are lawyers)." she apparently did not know that the especially high-IQ psychopaths and perverts end up as international bankers controlling the world's money system which enslaves us all.

as an aside, G. Edward Griffin who wrote, The Creature from Jekyll Island, says that the intelligent psychopaths find their way to the power centers.

"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency Bill."--Charles Lindbergh, Sr.

christine  posted on  2009-10-07   11:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: christine, noone222, Kamala, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, CadetD, farmfriend, ratcat, Jethro Tull, IndieTX, HOUNDDAWG, James Deffenbach, Mr Nuke Buzzcut, all (#6) (Edited)

The good people in society are practically unarmed against an evil enemy that poses as a just authority. The good people going about their daily business have no conception of the extent of evil that surrounds them until it raises its ugly head like a snake and strikes them personally.

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that is so true. i recognize it myself in those who are in power, but not to the degree that this writer articulated. i knew you'd find it compelling.

The problem seems twofold.

Most people simply cannot conceive of the evil which exists because they, blessedly, do not even think that way and it is totally foreign to them.

My wake up call was in the service when I had one such individual put me in his crosshairs. Up until that point, and the recognition of what was occurring, it simply was not real to me that someone could be quite that evil - or nuts. It got to the point where I was so misrable from his attentions that I would lay awake nights thinking about how much pleasure it would bring to slide a straight razor across his throat. Of course that was not something I would actually do, but it was a comforting thought. Eventually he got transferred and I recovered from the experience - armed against my next encounter with such. Over the years I've learned how to recognize them, the psychotic anti-social personalities, and avoid them wherever possible. Thankfully they are a small percentage of humanity - maybe 2 to 3 percent, but they wreak damage and destruction well beyond their numbers, and when they get into positions of power, as we have now, then is when you wind up with death camps, and all manner of insane depravity from government. As the author points out - it is not Government or Power per se but the wrong people in charge with power. We run into such psychotics regualarly - the people who never have anything good to say about anyone, the rumormonger, the back biter, common criminals and such. The greater examples stand out - Stalin, Hitler, Al Capone, John Gotti, Pol Pot, Bush, Clinton, Obama, etc., .... They are all dangerous, like any poisonous snake, to one degree or another. However, when conditions are such that they can rise to power then humanity is in deep doo doo.

Going a bit further we can also see, in history, that not all leaders, or individuals exercising great power, are evil. And seeking and using power is not necessarily evil - when it is in the right hands. And when a person of strength and good will toward humankind has power then you can have a golden age. Examples in history do exist - Solon, Charlemagne, Jefferson, Washington, and others. Men who exercised power for good - and women. Catherine the Great, for all her erotic frolics, was a great leader and did much good for Russia, Queen Elizabeth took Britain to before unknown heights, and Queen Victoria brought through wise leadership an age of industry and development. Of course, then again, there was Catherine de Medici, and Lucretia Borgia.

However, with the brief exception of Reagan's first two years, since the murder of JFK we have had a succession of Psychotics sitting in the Offal Office and the last 4 have been disastrous for our and the country's wellbeing.

"You may know them by their fruits."

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-10-07   11:46:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: christine (#12)

as an aside, G. Edward Griffin who wrote, The Creature from Jekyll Island, says that the intelligent psychopaths find their way to the power centers.

True, but often unrecognized is that you can just as likely find them running a freight elevator - creating misery in a much smaller circle, but misery nonetheless.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-10-07   11:48:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#13)

It got to the point where I was so misrable from his attentions that I would lay awake nights thinking about how much pleasure it would bring to slide a straight razor across his throat.

still reading your post, but had to tell you that made me laugh.

"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency Bill."--Charles Lindbergh, Sr.

christine  posted on  2009-10-07   12:05:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: christine (#15)

My honest thoughts - at the time.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-10-07   12:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Original_Intent (#13)

Going a bit further we can also see, in history, that not all leaders, or individuals exercising great power, are evil. And seeking and using power is not necessarily evil - when it is in the right hands. And when a person of strength and good will toward humankind has power then you can have a golden age. Examples in history do exist - Solon, Charlemagne, Jefferson, Washington, and others. Men who exercised power for good - and women. Catherine the Great, for all her erotic frolics, was a great leader and did much good for Russia, Queen Elizabeth took Britain to before unknown heights, and Queen Victoria

is there any current world leader you would place with those you named?

"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency Bill."--Charles Lindbergh, Sr.

christine  posted on  2009-10-07   12:17:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: christine (#17)

Good question. The short answer is no. Perhaps with more research there might be one or two on the periphery - perhaps Sweden - given that they have made a comeback from their doldrums, but they are hampered with a socialist system. Socialism is basically suppressive of industry and growth as it rewards the nonproductive for being nonproductive. What you reward you get more of. We are, at this point, in a position where access to power is controlled by the very types of psychotics that we do not want in power. It is going to require a major revolution, social not armed, to remove them and restore some sanity to government. Then provisions which will prevent the situation from recurring.

At this point we need an awakening - which truthfully, while it is occurring slowly, needs to pick up pace if we are to avert disaster. The one thing I don't talk about a lot because I prefer not to be negative, is that we ARE on a precipice - the knife's edge - on one side lies a golden future, and the other descent into madness and misery. We have leaders now, in the major countries, who could very easily, without a qualm, pull the nuclear trigger returning us again, as evidence suggests, to a greatly depopulated world scrambling to survive.

My interest in Archaeology has put me in touch with all manner of oddities in human history. One that stands forever in my mind is Mohenjo Daro of the defunct Indus Valley Civilization. One of the oddities discovered in the city, which the 19th century discoverer's were puzzled by and could not explain, was that of figures of men and women burned into the sidewalks and building walls. It remained unexplained until 1945 with the detonation of the Atomic Bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki. One of the observations noted in the aftermath of those detonations was that men and women caught in the full glare of the nuclear burst were instantly cooked by the vast energy released and their figures were forever burned into the sidewalks and building walls where they stood.

We have been here before.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-10-07   12:38:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: christine (#17)

Although Kathleen Seballis isn't a "world leader", she's a "puppet" of one.

Her encouraging all Americans to submit to the swine flu vaccine indicates that she's got a very demented mind.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-10-07   12:41:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Rotara, Sam Houston, EVERYBODY OUT THERE (#9)

Your boy, Puppet Obamalamadingdong, will get to the bottom of the illegal shadow government's attack on us and bring ALL the troops home from UNCONstitutional 'actions'...LOL

They're all psychopathic puppets ... both (all) sides of the equation ... Peace and unity amongst ourselves, the concerned and about to be impacted !!!

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity and possibly your soul.

noone222  posted on  2009-10-07   13:27:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#0)

The Mask of Sanity

Imagine - if you can - not having a conscience, none a all, no feelings of guilt or remorse no matter what you do, no limiting sense of concern for the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family members. Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life, no matter what kind of selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you have taken.

And pretend that the concept of responsibility is unknown to you, except as a burden others seem to accept without question.

Now add to the strange fantasy the ability to conceal from other people that your psychological makeup is radically different from theirs. Since everyone around you simply assumes that conscience is universal among human beings, hiding the fact that you are conscience-free is nearly effortless.

You are not held back from any of your desisres by guilt or shame. and you are never confronted by others for your coldbloodedness. The ice water in your veins is so bizarre, so completely outside of their personal experience, that they seldom guess at your condition.

In other words, you are completely free from internal restraints, and your unhampered liberty to do just as you please, with no pangs of conscience, is convenienty invisible to the world.

The above is from: The Mask of Sanity, by Henry Checkley

here's the link to the rest of the article

www.cassiopaea.com/ca ssiopaea/psychopath.htm

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-10-07   13:53:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: christine (#6)

i knew you'd find it compelling.

And you were so right !!!

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity and possibly your soul.

noone222  posted on  2009-10-07   18:05:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: noone222 (#20)

Psycopathic Puppets and their Tools in duhmerrrrrriKa bump


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-09   13:29:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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