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Title: Skiing While the Earth Burns
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The New American
URL Source: http://www.thenewamerican.com/index ... 0-skiing-while-the-earth-burns
Published: Oct 10, 2009
Author: Joe Wolverton, II
Post Date: 2009-10-10 16:32:34 by farmfriend
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Written by Joe Wolverton, II In a sure sign that the Earth is, as predicted, warming to the point of human extinction, snowfall in the West has come sooner and heavier than in recorded history. Many school districts have already been forced to close by unseasonable accumulations of snow. "We got dumped on last night, you can see that by looking around here. We weren't quite ready for it. It did cause us some issues in the school district," said Lonnie Barber, the superintendent of schools for Blaine County Idaho. Idaho isn't alone in its reluctance to march into a fiery, iceless demise; in Colorado as well, the snow is falling fast and piling up quickly, to the delight of a state dependent for much of its income on the ski tourism trade. The ski resort at Loveland, Colorado, has opened already, the earliest start to a season in 40 years. It will be joined Friday by the resort at Arapahoe Basin. It seems the owners of ski resorts failed to recognize the climatological chaos that is causing the melting of snow and ice that is in turn setting off an avalanche of impending worldwide doom. Some people will do anything for a buck. Vegas. Sin City. You would expect them to join the party and they have. You've heard the slogan: "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas." Well, according to the local Fox News affiliate in Las Vegas, what's happening is snow and what's staying is hundreds of skiers getting a welcome early start on the season. The Las Vegas Ski and Snowboard Resort is open for business earlier than ever before and business is booming. Says the resort's Base Operations Manager Craig Baldwin, “There are many skiers and snowboarders who love to jib on our freestyle terrain features, and we expect many families to take advantage of this great opportunity to learn the sport and have fun so early in the season."Again, open rebellion against the stark realities of the inconvenient truth of global warming. Must we brook such insolence and brazen defiance of those Chicken Littles who are doing their best to warn us all of the toasty fate waiting for us just around the corner. While we wait for the alarming rise in global temperatures to melt the ice caps and swell the levels of the oceans, we might as well head out West and ski.
Skiing While the Earth Burns
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#8. To: farmfriend (#0)
Global Warming phenomena does not mean that everywhere is about HELL FIRE&DAMNATION. That is just too amusing to consider. GW phenomena modifies local weather patterns in different ways based upon geography and so forth. I am afraid your article reinforces the idea that GW is a fact.
Sometimes global warming means global cooling and sometimes it means global warming? Is that it? So long as the myth is believed? Whatever works?
GW phenomena is all about the average Earth air temperature rising. And that rate is escalating pretty damned fast. It is rising faster than any time since life as we know it has existed.
That's prolly just your hormones, bucky. There's pills for that.
Really? What kind of pills are going to save me from CO2?
Are you just Googleing to impress me? C'mon wudidiz, you can find some authoritative research from a well known publication can't you?
OOPPSS! From NASA!
Looking at the graph it would certainly appear as though there's been a drastic temperature change in the last 100 years. However, it's only up less than 1 degree. IF (the) data is correct.
Do you know what effect that has on local weather? How about the Arctic and Antartica? Do you understand these two large ice systems are breaking up? That same erosion is based on ice melting; that is a clear indicator that the temperatures are increasing.
LOL sorry the facts don't support that one.
So, Anarctica and the Arctic are increasing ice mass correct?
Antarctica for many years and the arctic over the last few years rapidly replacing the ice lost to wind according to NASA. Part of that ice loss was also due to faulty equipment giving open water readings where ice actually existed. You have to stop paying attention to the propaganda and start watching the real science.
You subscribe to "this" or "that" idea yet you didn't answer my question directly. Are these massive areas losing or gaining ice?
Gaining.
Can you find a reputable scientific link showing that the ice masses have been gaining over the past century or fifty years or even the last decade? And if you can, will you share it with me?
Daily Antarctic Sea Ice Area Anomaly
if your motive doesnt exist, then you have no reason to commit the crime... too bad that, even without global warming, peak oil is motive enough, isnt it?
Peak oil? LOL.
the PNAC project, kicked off by 9/11, is a joint israeli/israeli american project to gain (a) high ground ---aka the palestinian land in the west bank--- for israel, and (b) control of oil for the israelis and israeli americans bent on benevolent global hegemony through control of energy. apparently the zionists see that control of energy consumption is very likely impossible, so global warming is inevitable, which makes sea level rise inevitable, which threatens israelis, 70% of whom live on land that will be flooded if the ice melts... so they're going for the high ground, just in case the oil acquisition project fails. in the meantime, many of the supposed zionists, who are, in reality, only using israel and the holocaust for protective coloration, are looters, pure and simple, and have no illusions about retiring to israel once they've stacked up a few billion bucks'- worth of loot. nope... they're going for enough cash to buy refuge someplace civilized once the shit hits the fan... which rules out israel.
Your basic assumptions are way off.
How? Just his brief rant about Israel? He is coming back around, now. I think he understands a thread's focus.
His assumptions that AGW is real, unavoidable and that "big oil" is opposed to it.
Why do you think flickervertigo has made assumptions? Can you counter his arguments, at all?
Yes I can, I've done it many time, but I'm not going to. What would be the point? I have too much to do today and can't waist my time on someone who is that far behind in the argument.
you cant dispute the fact that co2 and methane are greenhouse gases. you cant dispute the fact that co2 levels are rising, and have risen by 100 ppm since we've been burning fossil fuels. you cant dispute the fact that polar ice and glaciers are melting. you cant dispute the fact that weather patterns are being disrupted. you cant dispute the fact that the people with the most motive to deny global warming are the world's prime deniers of global warming. you cant dispute the fact that israel must acquire high ground to escape sea level rise before its american protector expires from oil shortages. you cant dispute the fact that PNAC said it needed a new pearl harbor to kick start the land and oil acquisition project.
LOL ok I'll take your items one at a time but I'm not in the mood to debate you at all. Why would I want to? That would be 100 ppmv. Correlation is not causation. Whether the increase is due to the use of fossil fuels is a point of contention. For instance, ocean outgassing is the prime source of CO2. Solar cycles 22 and 23 were the most active cycles in the last 1000 years. This in conjunction with a warming phase of the PDO and ENSO was likely the cause of the observed atmospheric warming. Assuming there has been warming and even that is in dispute, but I won't go into that. The discussion about rising CO2 levels always seems to include the assumption that current levels or lower are normal and prime levels. This is untrue. Currently levels, even after the small increase, are at historic lows for the planet. Well yeah I can dispute that as well. Glaciers have been in retreat since the end of the little ice age. The extreme arctic melt that happened in '07 was caused by wind not warming. The ice is recovering. There was also some faulty equipment that gave open water readings where there was actually ice. Both Greenland ice and Antarctic ice are getting thicker. The only warming that was seen in Antarctica was on the western peninsula and this was probably due to the warming oceans around it. The glacier that recently shattered in that area sits in a horseshoe shaped bay. It can't calve the way glaciers do. The build up of pressure behind it caused it to shatter like glass relieving the pressure. No warming needed. Are they? What exactly is "normal" weather? You predispose a stability that has never existed. I dispute your assumption as to who "those people" are. Besides, no one "denies" global warming, only the extent, the cause and the duration. With solar cycle 24 falling below even the Dalton minimum levels and both the PDO and ENSO now in cooling phases it is unlikely that oceans will see an extreme rise.
good enough. you must be "no one".
Weak. Global warming has to be global and there was never any warming in the southern hemisphere and only a small rise in the northern hemisphere that didn't even reach the levels of the medieval warm period also known as climate optimum. See Buck, this is why I won't debate people like this.
You can dispel all his grammatical errors all you want. After-all we not performing a doctoral thesis on a chit-chat channel are we? I thought we were examining ideas and concepts that might lead to new and invigorated ideas about the world around us.
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#10. To: buckeroo (#8)
GW phenomena modifies local weather patterns in different ways based upon geography and so forth.
#12. To: wudidiz (#10)
#14. To: buckeroo (#12)
It is rising faster than any time since life as we know it has existed.
#16. To: randge (#14)
There's pills for that.
#18. To: buckeroo (#16)
Duh Deux...
#19. To: wudidiz (#18)
#23. To: buckeroo (#19)
#25. To: wudidiz (#23)
I could probably cut and paste a dozen credible links refuting that.
#27. To: buckeroo (#25)
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#30. To: wudidiz (#27)
However, it's only up less than 1 degree.
#40. To: buckeroo (#30)
How about the Arctic and Antartica? Do you understand these two large ice systems are breaking up?
#41. To: farmfriend (#40)
#42. To: buckeroo (#41)
#43. To: farmfriend (#42)
#44. To: buckeroo (#43)
Are these massive areas losing or gaining ice?
#45. To: farmfriend (#44)
#48. To: buckeroo (#45)
#50. To: farmfriend (#48)
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#52. To: flickervertigo (#50)
too bad, even without global warming, peak oil is motive enough, isnt it?
#54. To: farmfriend (#52)
#76. To: flickervertigo (#54)
apparently the zionists see that control of energy consumption is very likely impossible, so global warming is inevitable,
#82. To: farmfriend (#76)
Your [flickervertigo] basic assumptions are way off.
#97. To: buckeroo (#82)
How?
#104. To: farmfriend (#97)
His assumptions that AGW is real, unavoidable
#106. To: buckeroo (#104)
Can you counter his arguments, at all?
#109. To: farmfriend (#106)
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#116. To: flickervertigo (#109)
you cant dispute the fact that co2 and methane are greenhouse gases.
you cant dispute the fact that co2 levels are rising, and have risen by 100 ppm since we've been burning fossil fuels.
you cant dispute the fact that polar ice and glaciers are melting.
you cant dispute the fact that weather patterns are being disrupted.
you cant dispute the fact that the people with the most motive to deny global warming are the world's prime deniers of global warming.
you cant dispute the fact that israel must acquire high ground to escape sea level rise before its american protector expires from oil shortages.
#117. To: farmfriend (#116)
no one "denies" global warming
#120. To: flickervertigo, buckeroo (#117)
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you must be "no one".
#122. To: farmfriend (#120)
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