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Title: Skiing While the Earth Burns
Source: The New American
URL Source: http://www.thenewamerican.com/index ... 0-skiing-while-the-earth-burns
Published: Oct 10, 2009
Author: Joe Wolverton, II
Post Date: 2009-10-10 16:32:34 by farmfriend
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Skiing While the Earth Burns

Written by Joe Wolverton, II
Wednesday, 07 October 2009 19:29

In a sure sign that the Earth is, as predicted, warming to the point of human extinction, snowfall in the West has come sooner and heavier than in recorded history.

Many school districts have already been forced to close by unseasonable accumulations of snow. "We got dumped on last night, you can see that by looking around here. We weren't quite ready for it. It did cause us some issues in the school district," said Lonnie Barber, the superintendent of schools for Blaine County Idaho.

Idaho isn't alone in its reluctance to march into a fiery, iceless demise; in Colorado as well, the snow is falling fast and piling up quickly, to the delight of a state dependent for much of its income on the ski tourism trade. The ski resort at Loveland, Colorado, has opened already, the earliest start to a season in 40 years. It will be joined Friday by the resort at Arapahoe Basin. It seems the owners of ski resorts failed to recognize the climatological chaos that is causing the melting of snow and ice that is in turn setting off an avalanche of impending worldwide doom. Some people will do anything for a buck.

Vegas. Sin City. You would expect them to join the party and they have. You've heard the slogan: "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas." Well, according to the local Fox News affiliate in Las Vegas, what's happening is snow and what's staying is hundreds of skiers getting a welcome early start on the season. The Las Vegas Ski and Snowboard Resort is open for business earlier than ever before and business is booming. Says the resort's Base Operations Manager Craig Baldwin, “There are many skiers and snowboarders who love to jib on our freestyle terrain features, and we expect many families to take advantage of this great opportunity to learn the sport and have fun so early in the season."Again, open rebellion against the stark realities of the inconvenient truth of global warming. Must we brook such insolence and brazen defiance of those Chicken Littles who are doing their best to warn us all of the toasty fate waiting for us just around the corner.

While we wait for the alarming rise in global temperatures to melt the ice caps and swell the levels of the oceans, we might as well head out West and ski. Subscribe to *Agriculture-Environment*

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#18. To: buckeroo (#16)

Duh Deux...

Drop in world temperatures fuels global warming debate


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-10   19:03:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: wudidiz (#18)

Are you just Googleing to impress me? C'mon wudidiz, you can find some authoritative research from a well known publication can't you?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-10   19:06:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: buckeroo (#19)

Don't bug me while I'm Googling.

All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-10   19:09:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: buckeroo (#19)

Is this well known enough for you?


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-10   19:12:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: wudidiz (#20)

Don't bug me while I'm Googling.

ROTFL

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-10   19:14:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo (#19)

But more seriously now...

The latest global averaged satellite temperature data for June 2009 reveals yet another drop in the Earth’s temperature. This latest drop in global temperatures means despite his dire warnings, the Earth has cooled .74°F since former Vice President Al Gore released “An Inconvenient Truth” in 2006.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-10   19:15:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: wudidiz (#23)

NASA studies

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-10   19:17:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: wudidiz (#23)

I could probably cut and paste a dozen credible links refuting that.

OOPPSS! From NASA!

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-10   19:21:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: buckeroo (#24)

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/features/temptracker/

That's from 2007, the link I gave you at #20 is from 2008.

FWIW


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-10   19:27:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeroo (#25) (Edited)

Looking at the graph it would certainly appear as though there's been a drastic temperature change in the last 100 years.

However, it's only up less than 1 degree.

IF (the) data is correct.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-10   19:30:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeroo, All (#27)

IF (the) data is correct.

I doubt it is. Especially the last 10 years.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-10   19:33:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: buckeroo, All (#28)

IF (the) data is correct.

I doubt it is. Especially the last 10 years.

NASA Rigs Data, Reports False Global Warming

Flashback: IPCC Scientists Caught Producing False Data To Push Global Warming


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-10   19:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: wudidiz (#27)

However, it's only up less than 1 degree.

Do you know what effect that has on local weather? How about the Arctic and Antartica? Do you understand these two large ice systems are breaking up? That same erosion is based on ice melting; that is a clear indicator that the temperatures are increasing.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-10   19:43:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: wudidiz (#29)

The IPCC and governments are not making glaciers melt all around the world. Open your eyes!

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-10   19:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: buckeroo (#31)

Buckeroo do you deny that there is vegetation under antartica? Do you doubt that our climate used to be globally warmer?

You are starting to sound like one of those watermelons. Your liberalness is showing through.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-10-10   19:54:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: buckeroo (#30)

However, it's only up less than 1 degree.

Do you know what effect that has on local weather? How about the Arctic and Antartica? Do you understand these two large ice systems are breaking up? That same erosion is based on ice melting; that is a clear indicator that the temperatures are increasing.

Yes, of course I know that.

My point is that first of all, the graph is misleading and secondly, I doubt the data is true.

I'm not sure the Arctic and Antarctic ice systems are breaking up.

Showing pictures or video of ice bergs breaking off a glacier is no proof.

That's been happening for thousands of years.

What evidence is there other than that someone says they are breaking up?


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-10   19:56:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: buckeroo (#25)

Bucky how does increasing blacktop all over the fuck with the readings?

You are falling for the new world orders propaganda. They will offer a solution to the myth of global warming. You will cheer its implementation because you are a very ignorant person in this matter.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-10-10   19:57:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: buckeroo (#31)

The IPCC and governments are not making glaciers melt all around the world. Open your eyes!

Again, I would be interested to see some evidence that this is so.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-10   19:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: wudidiz (#35)

The earth may be getting a little warmer. It isn't man made though. It is just the earths cycles. I wish global warming were true. It would open up lots of new farmland to feed people. I pray for global warming.

A long time ago we were known as the "new world". It seems God left a refuge for people to flee opressive civilizations so we could start again and rebuild.

Maybe if the earth is getting warmer new nations will rise out of former cold places and they will give new births of freedom for new generations. Just a thought to consider.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-10-10   20:01:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: wudidiz (#2)

LOL gotta love that one.


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-10   21:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: buckeroo (#12)

It is rising faster than any time since life as we know it has existed.

LOL you crack me up sometimes.


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-10   21:07:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: buckeroo, wudidiz (#25)

OOooo your chart shows it has been warming since the Dalton minimum. What a surprise...not. It seems to stop just as the cooling began. Again what a surprise...not.


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-10   21:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: buckeroo (#30)

How about the Arctic and Antartica? Do you understand these two large ice systems are breaking up?

LOL sorry the facts don't support that one.


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-10   21:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: farmfriend (#40)

So, Anarctica and the Arctic are increasing ice mass correct?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-10   21:16:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: buckeroo (#41)

Antarctica for many years and the arctic over the last few years rapidly replacing the ice lost to wind according to NASA. Part of that ice loss was also due to faulty equipment giving open water readings where ice actually existed. You have to stop paying attention to the propaganda and start watching the real science.


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-10   21:20:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: farmfriend (#42)

You subscribe to "this" or "that" idea yet you didn't answer my question directly. Are these massive areas losing or gaining ice?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-10   21:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: buckeroo (#43)

Are these massive areas losing or gaining ice?

Gaining.


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-10   23:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: farmfriend (#44)

Can you find a reputable scientific link showing that the ice masses have been gaining over the past century or fifty years or even the last decade? And if you can, will you share it with me?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-11   13:08:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: buckeroo (#45) (Edited)

Can you find a reputable scientific link

There is the rub isn't it? What is a reputable link since many recent studies have been shown to be fraudulent?

Can you find a reputable scientific link showing that the ice masses have been gaining over the past century or fifty years or even the last decade?

I also have to take exception to the way you have things phrased. I don't like being baited. First you ask if it is increasing or decreasing. It is increasing. Then you qualify it with a time frame. It has decreased over all since the little ice age, the time frame you use. But this time frame wasn't included in your original question. You've moved the goal posts. I won't debate anyone who does that. Period.


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-11   13:18:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: buckeroo (#45)

you know what?

arguing about this is pointless.

the only thing that matters is that israel and the israeli americans are acting as if they believe both peak oil and global warming are the real things.

the consequences of their actions are more important, way more important in the short run, than threats posed by global warming.

flickervertigo  posted on  2009-10-11   13:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: buckeroo (#45)

Daily Antarctic Sea Ice Area Anomaly


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-11   13:24:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: farmfriend (#46)

it's no coincidence at all that the most vehement deniers of global warming just happen to be the is raeli americans of the AEI and their oil company allies, who see global warming as (a) a threat to israel, and (b) a threat to oil company profits.

they have to deny global warming because global warming was their long-range reason for staging 9/11 to kick off their PNAC project.

flickervertigo  posted on  2009-10-11   13:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: farmfriend (#48) (Edited)

if your motive doesnt exist, then you have no reason to commit the crime...

too bad that, even without global warming, peak oil is motive enough, isnt it?

flickervertigo  posted on  2009-10-11   13:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: flickervertigo (#49)

they have to deny global warming because global warming was their long-range reason for staging 9/11 to kick off their PNAC project.

You are misinformed and not seeing the bigger picture. The global elites and oil companies are actually on the AGW side not against it. Controlling supply and demand through carbon regulation will only increase oil profits. Follow the money.


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-11   13:30:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: flickervertigo (#50)

too bad, even without global warming, peak oil is motive enough, isnt it?

Peak oil? LOL.


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-11   13:31:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: farmfriend (#52)

Peak oil already occurred while the ice masses have significantly declined. Don't you see the obvious correlation?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-11   13:37:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: farmfriend (#52)

the PNAC project, kicked off by 9/11, is a joint israeli/israeli american project to gain (a) high ground ---aka the palestinian land in the west bank--- for israel, and (b) control of oil for the israelis and israeli americans bent on benevolent global hegemony through control of energy.

apparently the zionists see that control of energy consumption is very likely impossible, so global warming is inevitable, which makes sea level rise inevitable, which threatens israelis, 70% of whom live on land that will be flooded if the ice melts... so they're going for the high ground, just in case the oil acquisition project fails.

in the meantime, many of the supposed zionists, who are, in reality, only using israel and the holocaust for protective coloration, are looters, pure and simple, and have no illusions about retiring to israel once they've stacked up a few billion bucks'- worth of loot.

nope... they're going for enough cash to buy refuge someplace civilized once the shit hits the fan... which rules out israel.

flickervertigo  posted on  2009-10-11   13:40:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: flickervertigo (#47)

you know what?

Could be, doc!

arguing about this is pointless.

Whom is arguing? I am asking questions.

the only thing that matters is that israel and the israeli americans are acting as if they believe both peak oil and global warming are the real things.

Well, there are few more things to consider about life all around us. Take for example: I have an ingrown wart on the bottom of my big toe. God, that thing hurts.

the consequences of their actions are more important, way more important in the short run, than threats posed by global warming.

How do you know? Are you the messiah?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-11   13:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: buckeroo (#55)

which is more likely to happen first?

global nuke war started by israelis and/or israeli americans?

or catastrophic sea level rise?

flickervertigo  posted on  2009-10-11   13:46:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: flickervertigo (#56)

Beats me. I left my crystal ball back at the gym.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-11   13:47:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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