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Title: Skiing While the Earth Burns
Source: The New American
URL Source: http://www.thenewamerican.com/index ... 0-skiing-while-the-earth-burns
Published: Oct 10, 2009
Author: Joe Wolverton, II
Post Date: 2009-10-10 16:32:34 by farmfriend
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Skiing While the Earth Burns

Written by Joe Wolverton, II
Wednesday, 07 October 2009 19:29

In a sure sign that the Earth is, as predicted, warming to the point of human extinction, snowfall in the West has come sooner and heavier than in recorded history.

Many school districts have already been forced to close by unseasonable accumulations of snow. "We got dumped on last night, you can see that by looking around here. We weren't quite ready for it. It did cause us some issues in the school district," said Lonnie Barber, the superintendent of schools for Blaine County Idaho.

Idaho isn't alone in its reluctance to march into a fiery, iceless demise; in Colorado as well, the snow is falling fast and piling up quickly, to the delight of a state dependent for much of its income on the ski tourism trade. The ski resort at Loveland, Colorado, has opened already, the earliest start to a season in 40 years. It will be joined Friday by the resort at Arapahoe Basin. It seems the owners of ski resorts failed to recognize the climatological chaos that is causing the melting of snow and ice that is in turn setting off an avalanche of impending worldwide doom. Some people will do anything for a buck.

Vegas. Sin City. You would expect them to join the party and they have. You've heard the slogan: "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas." Well, according to the local Fox News affiliate in Las Vegas, what's happening is snow and what's staying is hundreds of skiers getting a welcome early start on the season. The Las Vegas Ski and Snowboard Resort is open for business earlier than ever before and business is booming. Says the resort's Base Operations Manager Craig Baldwin, “There are many skiers and snowboarders who love to jib on our freestyle terrain features, and we expect many families to take advantage of this great opportunity to learn the sport and have fun so early in the season."Again, open rebellion against the stark realities of the inconvenient truth of global warming. Must we brook such insolence and brazen defiance of those Chicken Littles who are doing their best to warn us all of the toasty fate waiting for us just around the corner.

While we wait for the alarming rise in global temperatures to melt the ice caps and swell the levels of the oceans, we might as well head out West and ski. Subscribe to *Agriculture-Environment*

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Beats me. I left my crystal ball back at the gym.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-11   13:47:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

too bad, even without global warming, peak oil is motive enough, isnt it?

Peak oil? LOL.

coyoteprime-runningcausei...o-real-shortage-ever.html

freeenergynews.com/Directory/Theory/SustainableOil/

chemtrails

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-11   13:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The global elites and oil companies are actually on the AGW side not against it. Controlling supply and demand through carbon regulation will only increase oil profits. Follow the money.

Yes.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-11   13:54:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Peak oil already occured. There is no doubt about it. The days of olde Jed Klampett shooting a bullet in the ground and Texas-T rising are over.

Today, oil harvesting requires BILLIONS of dollars for capitalized equipment sometimes going into the sea at depths of miles. At today's consumption rates the supplies will be limited to government only controls for national security purposes.

"Driving the USA in a Chevrolet" days are all over.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-11   13:58:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

They are running their game like the quasi-monopoly they are.

A monopoly always wants to sell you less and charge you more for it.

randge  posted on  2009-10-11   13:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

how come israelis and israeli americans and their exxon allies are acting as if peak oil was the real deal?

i guess maybe this whole PNAC project could be about israel and israel only, huh?

but then why would exxon join up with the israeli americans (see comments) unless the plan to secure israel had something to do with oil?

flickervertigo  posted on  2009-10-11   13:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A monopoly always wants to sell you less and charge you more for it.

Sounds like all governments in the US: federal, state, county and local governments. But there are reasons: they need to pay the HUGE retirement and healthcare that they promised to bureaucrats.

The promised money does nothing for the world around us today.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-11   14:06:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The promised money does nothing for the world around us today.

Does little for you and me either.

randge  posted on  2009-10-11   14:36:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Does little for you and me either.

Actually, in a sense it does. Here is why: with dwindling natural resources and a climbing population base, the government may continue it rape and pillage of and about the taxpayer base. They have an excuse to expand government rule and so-called "services" so as to mask the complexity of the problems already created.

You are looking into an abyss caused by government fraud, waste and outright tyranny. And what do you hear today? Sustained methodology approaches. It pours off the lips of every congress-critter that attempted to entertain their consitutents last Summer with the 0bamaCare plan.

It is all about increasing government control over our lives. Still, the science is staring us in the face showing the real manifestations of over-population. We have let government control us to the point that even your personal trash bag is scrutinized for waste by-products that are illegal.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-11   14:47:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

how come israelis and israeli americans and their exxon allies are acting as if peak oil was the real deal?

i guess maybe this whole PNAC project could be about israel and israel only, huh?

but then why would exxon join up with the israeli americans (see comments) unless the plan to secure israel had something to do with oil?

My point with oil being abiotic is that peak oil is a myth.

So is global warming.

Of course PNAC is about Israel and Israel only.

More about money/power than oil I suppose.

The lie is perpetuated for that purpose.

"By way of deception."

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-11   15:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It is all about increasing government control over our lives. Still, the science is staring us in the face showing the real manifestations of over-population. We have let government control us to the point that even your personal trash bag is scrutinized for waste by-products that are illegal.

It is all about increasing government control over our lives. Still, the science junk science is staring us in the face showing the real manifestations myth of over-population. We have let government control us to the point that even your personal trash bag is scrutinized for waste by-products that are illegal.

Edited at no charge by wudidiz

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-11   15:04:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

please post production figures from abiotic oil fields.

flickervertigo  posted on  2009-10-11   15:07:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You confuse me. Are you saying there is an infinite supply of natural resources here on the planet? And are you also saying that as a result there can an infinite number of people using those same resources without any ramifications at all?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-11   15:07:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Uh-huh.

They're all abiotic.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-11   15:08:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

please explain why oil companies are spending billions of dollars to drill 200 miles offshore, in 10,000 feet of water and 20,000 feet of dirt under that, to find oil that's a hundred miles from the nearest pipeline.

flickervertigo  posted on  2009-10-11   15:09:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You confuse me. Are you saying there is an infinite supply of natural resources here on the planet? And are you also saying that as a result there can an infinite number of people using those same resources without any ramifications at all?

I'm making a sincere effort here to alleviate your confusion.

I'm saying that oil is abiotic, peak oil is a myth, global warming is a myth and the world is far from overpopulated.

I have posted many links with information to you to support this before.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-11   15:11:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

please explain why oil companies are spending billions of dollars to drill 200 miles offshore, in 10,000 feet of water and 20,000 feet of dirt under that, to find oil that's a hundred miles from the nearest pipeline.

To get the oil?

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-11   15:12:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It doesn't make sense that oil is made from fossils.

It does make sense that there are remnants of fossils found in oil.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-11   15:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

ah...

"to get the oil"

why dont they drill in the suburbs of houston? ...wouldnt that be handier than drilling 200 miles offshore in a couple miles of water? ...and you can find abiotic oil anywhere, cant you?

flickervertigo  posted on  2009-10-11   15:14:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

apparently the zionists see that control of energy consumption is very likely impossible, so global warming is inevitable,

Your basic assumptions are way off.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-11   15:16:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

why dont they drill in the suburbs of houston? ...wouldnt that be handier than drilling 200 miles offshore in a couple miles of water? ...and you can find abiotic oil anywhere, cant you?

According to the theory, ALL oil is abiotic.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-11   15:17:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the exxon stockholders are gonna be plenty pissed off when they discover that their company is wasting billions of dollars drilling in such godawful places when they could be drilling for cheap abiotic oil in the outskirts of houston, arent they?

flickervertigo  posted on  2009-10-11   15:18:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Is this what they call a 'circular argument'?

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-11   15:26:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

you seem to be ready to admit that the abiotic oil argument is pointless, just like the global warming argument.

if abiotic oil is so scarce that oil companies have to drill hundreds of miles offshore in a couple miles of water, then it really doesnt make much difference where the oil comes from...

...the main fact is, we're using it up faster than we're finding it, and it makes no difference how it was formed.

flickervertigo  posted on  2009-10-11   15:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the exxon stockholders are gonna be plenty pissed off when they discover that their company is wasting billions of dollars drilling in such godawful places when they could be drilling for cheap abiotic oil in the outskirts of houston, arent they?

I doubt that many stockholders would believe that oil is abiotic.

I'm not sure how you figure that because oil is abiotic that it is any cheaper.

I'm not sure how you have concluded that because it's not made from fossils that it can be found anywhere else than it already is.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-11   15:31:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Your [flickervertigo] basic assumptions are way off.

How? Just his brief rant about Israel? He is coming back around, now. I think he understands a thread's focus.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-11   15:32:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

you seem to be ready to admit that the abiotic oil argument is pointless, just like the global warming argument.

if abiotic oil is so scarce that oil companies have to drill hundreds of miles offshore in miles of water, then it really doesnt make much difference where the oil comes from...

...the main fact is, we're using it up faster than we're finding it, and it makes no difference how it was formed.

No.

What I may be admitting is that arguing with you about it is pointless.

Your premise that abiotic oil is scarce is likely false in my opinion.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-11   15:33:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the main fact is, we're using the oil up faster than we're finding it, and it makes no difference how the oil was formed.

sorry, but i'm gonna have to go for beer if you expect me to continue this idiocy...

flickervertigo  posted on  2009-10-11   15:35:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Irrespective of how oil is formed .... are there methods to reduce human consumption?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-11   15:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

are there methods to reduce human consumption?

sure there are...

for instance, you can start wars to kill off millions, maybe billions of people who are potential consumers, or you can start wars to deprive potential consumers of access.

or you could even try educating people about peak oil, maybe motivate them to cooperate in figuring out the most efficient use of the remaining oil.

that last approach, though, kinda goes against the grain of the ruling psychopaths' philosophy.

flickervertigo  posted on  2009-10-11   15:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

or you could even try educating people about peak oil, maybe motivate them to cooperate in figuring out the most effecient [sic] use of the remaining oil.

What is the probability of that outcome?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-11   15:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

not so pretty good

flickervertigo  posted on  2009-10-11   15:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So, you would place a "long" wager that there will be more wars, correct? Is that why you introduced Israel into the global warming issue?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-11   15:51:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

there are factions of psychopaths...

that's what the cold civil war is about: one faction wants to preserve israel at any cost, to include sacrificing america if that's what it takes to preserve israel.

one faction wants to control the world by controlling energy.

another faction wants to educate america with the aim of making america face the realities of peak oil and global warming... an attempt to save america.

one faction thinks the whole of industrial civilization is doomed, and the only solution is to stack up enough cash to set themselves up to hide out until the dust settles.

if we've burned half the oil, and increased the co2 by 100 ppm, then if we burn the rest of the coal, gas and oil, we're looking at at least another 100 ppm of co2, in much less time than it took to do the first 100 ppm.

so....... given that the atmospheric lifetime of co2 is a couple hundred years, given the possibility that the methane might get loose, given the fact that radical zionist jews dont give a shit about anything but israel...

flickervertigo  posted on  2009-10-11   16:04:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

In a sense, I see you posting comments about a significant issue that I have tried to suggest in the past.

There is a shortage of energy based upon HUGE consumption rates, correct? Have you ever read Malthus?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-11   16:09:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

yeah, malthus was right, but his timing was dismal.

malthus died just as the industrial revolution, fueled first by coal, was cranking up.

then came the green revolution, dependent on oil, which allowed the population to skyrocket... so here we are, with a reality that's simply too grim to face.

flickervertigo  posted on  2009-10-11   16:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

With ever-increasing, encroaching government upon our individual rights and liberties and freedoms to limit energy consumption, do you sense a way out of this mess without future wars and mayhem and civil unrest? I note: you already stated that education won't work.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-11   16:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the fact that education is a long shot does not remove our obligation to try to educate, especially when the alternatives are so bad.

flickervertigo  posted on  2009-10-11   16:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The future wars are about energy, correct?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-11   16:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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