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Title: Senator Feinstein & GOP Call for Obama to Send More Troops to Afghanistan
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URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/200 ... obama-send-troops-afghanistan/
Published: Oct 11, 2009
Author: MSM
Post Date: 2009-10-11 21:32:13 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 478
Comments: 41

Top Republican senators escalated their call Sunday for President Obama to grant Gen. Stanley McChrystal's request for more troops in Afghanistan, and one prominent Democrat warned that a failure to do so could jeopardize U.S. forces.

The Obama administration is deep in deliberations over whether to build on its counterinsurgency strategy with thousands more troops in Afghanistan or focus more on taking out top Al Qaeda targets, particularly in Pakistan. The bloody clash this weekend at the Pakistan army headquarters, where commandos freed dozens of hostages early Sunday after militants attacked the facility, underscored the instability in the region.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said the attack emphasized the "danger of the Taliban not only in Afghanistan but in Pakistan as well."

But he said any attempt by the administration to scale back the fight against the Taliban in favor of a tactical battle against Al Qaeda would damage security.

"They are different. But they are inter-connected," he said on CBS' "Face the Nation."

He said Republicans would "almost overwhelmingly support" the president if he opts to grant McChrystal's request for more troops, estimated to be for about 40,000.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, also said the counterinsurgency strategy pursued by McChrystal is "really critical." She said the American people don't have the stomach to stay in Afghanistan for another 10 years, but that the mission there is in "serious jeopardy" and Obama has an obligation to follow his commander's advice.

"I don't know how you put somebody in who was as crackerjack as General McChrystal, who gives the president very solid recommendations, and not take those recommendations if you're not going to pull out," Feinstein said on ABC's "This Week."

"If you don't want to take the recommendations, then you put your people in such jeopardy."

She suggested some elements of the Taliban could be won over, but warned that the Taliban in Afghanistan will have a "dramatic impact" on Pakistan if allowed to flourish.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., also said on CNN's "State of the Union" that the Taliban and Al Qaeda will become "inextricably tied."

McCain, the ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said the president is right to take his time and deliberate but that a failure to accept the advice of his military commanders would be "an error of historic proportions."

But many Democrats are pushing back on a call for more U.S. troops, questioning whether a larger U.S. military footprint will help change the course of the war.

Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said on NBC's "Meet the Press" that Afghanistan needs a surge of Afghan forces, not of U.S. forces. He said more trainers are needed, but not more U.S. combat troops.

"The president has to look at a much broader perspective than the commander's request, as important as that is," Levin said.

Obama has held a series of meetings with top military commanders and diplomatic advisers, as he moves toward a decision on how to proceed in Afghanistan.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., also on the Armed Services Committee, said Sunday on "Meet the Press" that more trainers are desired -- but that with Afghan forces getting "slaughtered," the need for U.S. reinforcements is greater.

"Without better security, more combat power, we're going to lose in Afghanistan," he said.

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Senator Feinstein & GOP Call for Obama to Send More Troops to Afghanistan

Senator Feinstein & GOP Israelis Call for Obama to Send More Troops to Afghanistan

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-10-11   21:36:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, also said the counterinsurgency strategy pursued by McChrystal is "really critical.

Now there is an Israeli firster if ever there was one.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-11   21:37:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Senator Feinstein & GOP Call for Obama to Send More Troops to Afghanistan

Wait a f-ing minute--

Didn't the Big O clown JUST win the damn Noble PEACE Prize??!!

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-10-11   21:38:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: wbales (#1)

Goy blood on their hands is of NO consequence.

Enlist or DRAFT more if need be.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-11   21:38:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: wbales (#1)

Israelis Call for ...

Then why hasn't it happened yet??? I thought the POTUS jumped everytime his handlers told him to do something ... AND if Israel wants it, Rahm got the message LONG ago.

Phant2000  posted on  2009-10-11   21:38:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: wbales (#5)

Sorry, wbales .... guess it is because he is wearing his "Cartoon Character of the Year" award around his neck.

Phant2000  posted on  2009-10-11   21:41:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Phant2000 (#5) (Edited)

Then why hasn't it happened yet???

Excellent question.

Obumski and his managers are willing to waste time while they make every effort to cover their own asses, no matter what the outcome of all of this.

Most politicians always want a ..."fall back position"...to avoid the blame. These people are looking for more than one position of safety.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-11   21:41:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#2)

Now there is an Israeli firster if ever there was one.

Do great minds think alike or what?!?

What were our posts--one second apart?!?

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-10-11   21:42:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

here comes the first of the dem neocons.

"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency Bill."--Charles Lindbergh, Sr.

christine  posted on  2009-10-11   21:44:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#9)

Legions to follow.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-11   21:46:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: wbales (#8)

Do great minds think alike or what?!? Do great minds think alike or what?!?

Minds that have accepted that the entire government is the enemy and needs to be replaced, arrived at that point on their own, disregarding the programming that governs the sheep.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-11   21:46:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Phant2000 (#5)

Then why hasn't it happened yet???

I guess you are still waiting for our federal government to follow through on orders from PNAC/Israel to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.

But, seriously though, I think Russia has told Amerisrael NOT to do Iran.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-10-11   21:46:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

"Without better security, more combat power, we're going to lose in Afghanistan," he said.

Lose it to what?

What it used to be before we invaded?

These effer's are insane.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-10-11   21:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: wbales (#12)

But, seriously though, I think Russia has told Amerisrael NOT to do Iran.

Now you are getting deep into geo-politics.

That takes great mental effort, a sound knowledge of history, and a good 3X4 wall map.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-11   21:49:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Lodwbales, Jethro tull, All (#13)

Remember Israel had the arrogance to do the USS Liberty, now they have the arrogance to do Iran, knowing the US will be there to protect them.

That is why Obama, closed the door when he said withdrawal from Afghan was not an option.

That said it all, the Jews have spoken.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-11   21:52:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#15)

We have got to stand up and say, eff the tribe.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-10-11   21:54:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Lod (#16)

We have got to stand up and say, eff the tribe.

The Jews own everything inside the beltway.

NO ONE comes in without their approval.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-11   21:57:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#17)

The Jews own everything inside the beltway.

History shows us they been thrown out of everywhere they immigrated to ... wonder how long it will take the masses of the US of A to send 'em on their way???

Phant2000  posted on  2009-10-11   22:00:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Lod (#13)

What it used to be before we invaded?

Now, ponder this, lod--and playing devil's advocate or some sort of mental insanity warmonger mentality--

If any war is worth fighting at all, it is worth fighting to the hilt--all out-- last man standing or not standing as the case may be. And if there is true justification for war, or battle, this should be the guiding principle.

Ergo, Amerisrael should kill every living thing in Afghanistan and Iraq, today not tommorrow--in other words, Amerisrael's war philosophy should be nuke everything and be done with it--forget troops with guns and tanks so forth and so on--waste of time, effort and money and all that.

If you're going to fight a war, fight with the best and most destructively extreme weapons available.

Otherwise, do not go to war especially when some piece of crap little country halfway around the world and the lunatics running same are pushing our country into those wars.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-10-11   22:04:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Phant2000 (#18)

. wonder how long it will take the masses of the US of A to send 'em on their way???

Too late.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-11   22:05:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: All (#19)

I'm still trying to decide whether that made sense or not.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-10-11   22:06:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#17)

NO ONE comes in without their approval.

And as a corollary, those must leave who meet thier disapproval.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-10-11   22:14:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: wbales (#19)

Otherwise, do not go to war especially when some piece of crap little country halfway around the world and the lunatics running same are pushing our country into those wars.

That's most of our option here.

GTF outta there, defend out borders, and let the rest of the planet figger it out for themselves.

They do not need our help, or blood, to get it done.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-10-11   22:17:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Phant2000 (#18)

... wonder how long it will take the masses of the US of A to send 'em on their way???

Have to turn off the tube and unsubscribe to a few "news" magazines before that will happen.

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tom007  posted on  2009-10-11   22:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: wbales (#22)

The Israelis will do anything to precipitate a war.

That was their intent when they did the USS LIberty.

"The second explanation is even more ominous: that Israel bombed the Liberty to bring about an American attack on their old nemisis, Egypt, in retaliation. American Servicemen claim that a nuclear attack on Cairo was only narrowly averted.

On the TV documentary, ?Dead in the Water,? US servicemen testify on camera that nuclear-armed planes were sent to attack Cairo on receipt of the news in Washington. The US authorities falsely assumed that it was an Egyptian attack on the Liberty, and thus officials ordered immediate retaliation. Of course, for this plan to work, the Liberty had to be destroyed and its crew killed. The planes were recalled when it was realized that the attacker was actually the Israeli forces.

The sources in the film are a crew-member from the aircraft carrier USS America who saw the planes launched; a US Navy radio operator who heard the radio traffic about them being launched which he is certain was referring to nuclear-armed aircraft; and the account given by a Liberty survivor of a conversation at the time with the commander of the Sixth Fleet carriers in which he (the admiral) describes what happened, producer Chris Mitchell told IslamOnline.

The radio operator states on camera that he heard US Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara personally give the orders. A couple of other witnesses talked to program makers off camera.

When interviewed by the team, McNamara denied the charges. Said Mitchell, ?I certainly think people in Cairo might like to know how close they came to being incinerated by a US nuclear bomb.?"

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-11   22:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: tom007 (#24)

Have to turn off the tube and unsubscribe to a few "news" magazines ...

For the most part, I did that long ago ... and more and more of my friends are doing the same. By the way, I haven't given a dime to any theatre anywhere for at least 30 years!!!

Phant2000  posted on  2009-10-11   22:25:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Title: Senator Feinstein & GOP Call for Obama to Send More Troops to Afghanistan

Feinstein: "If you don't want to take the recommendations, then you put your people in such jeopardy."

Good Jew logic – just keep putting more Americans in jeopardy and danger.

Doesn’t more troops mean an escalation of war?

Now there is to be internal war in Pakistan.

Are we to be responsible for Pakistan and Iran and Iraq and Afghanistan.

What is the end game??

Why are we even in the middle east?

Who brought 9/11 to our shores?

There is no winning for America – is there!

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-10-11   22:28:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: your_neighbor (#27)

Why are we even in the middle east?

The road to Perdition began in 1948

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-11   22:32:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom, Phant2000 (#7)

Then why hasn't it happened yet???

Psyops requires a long run up to the war so the voters are relieved that the war has begun and they don't have to listen to the propaganda anynore,.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2009-10-11   22:35:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Cynicom (#25)

That was their intent when they did the USS LIberty.

That, indeed and no doubt, was thier plan.

An intrepid and persistant US Navy radioman aboard the USS Liberty saved Egypt.

When that radio signal got off to Admiral Larry Geis, Sixth Fleet Commander, Israel was busted.

Subsequently and however, Johnson covered up for the murdering Zionist bastards.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-10-11   22:42:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: wbales (#30)

The plan to bomb Cairo had been planned long before by the government. The carrier captain did NOT decide on his own to A bomb Cairo.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-11   22:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Lod (#23)

My approach to war theory in post 22 would only be applicable if:

1) Zionists were not in control of the Pentagon, and;

2) there was a true, national threat to the very existence of America and Americans.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-10-11   22:45:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom (#31)

The plan to bomb Cairo had been planned long before by the government. The carrier captain did NOT decide on his own to A bomb Cairo.

But by then, too many people knew it was Israel that attacked the Liberty.

I don't think Larry Geis was in on it--he was sending fighter protection to the Liberty and McNamara/Johnson ordered him to order the fighters back.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-10-11   22:48:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Senator Feinstein & GOP Call for Obama to Send More Troops to Afghanistan

Escalate escalate -- fly the flag fly the flag -- more war more war -- divert attention divert attention -- don’t let them see - don’t let them see - cove the Jews ass ------------ COVER the JEWS ASS!

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-10-12   0:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Obama is wrong to keep the troops idling and being shot at without action. The GOP (and Feinstein) is wrong to call for more troops.

The proper solution, is to bring the troops home and to stop stomping around the world. If Obeyme isn't going to help them, then keeping them there being shot at is a nigh criminal act. But he shouldn't be helping them to begin with, the faux "war" needs to be ended, and those young men brought home out of harm's way.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-12   9:09:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: SonOfLiberty (#35)

The GOP (and Feinstein) is wrong to call for more troops.

Obumski announced on day one that withdrawal was not an option.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-12   9:10:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Cynicom (#36)

It's not the option for him and his Administration, because they have no interest in peace or what is right.

It is the only option however that accords perfectly with our founding principles and what is right.

Naturally, the notions I speak of are alien to Obama and most politicians.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-12   9:16:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

"I don't know how you put somebody in who was as crackerjack as General McChrystal

We call him "Cracker Stan" in the 'hood, not crackerjack.

He should announce to the world he is going forward regardless and will hire 50,000 mercs from the heroin trafficking proceeds which have piled up (they like to put these in a separate 'black ops' budget, but desperate times requre desperate measures).

Then he should declare a new country wherever his mercs/GIs are deployed called "Stanistan" and install himself as dictator.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-10-12   9:22:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: your_neighbor (#27)

What is the end game??

Why are we even in the middle east?

Who brought 9/11 to our shores?

Feinstein is a word that answers all these questions.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-12   9:29:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: SonOfLiberty (#35)

The proper solution, is to bring the troops home

Absolutely correct, but it isn't going to happen. Neither man who stood for president ran on a platform of peace, so war is what we have and war is what the voters wanted. That said, you can't allow an Alamo situation to develop. Should these reports be valid, and I believe they are, the kids who are there should be given whatever support they need. Academic meetings by our War Council, as men are virtually trapped, is criminal. Again, if I could wave a magic wand they never would have went to begin with but since the Obama and Bush 'surge' put them there the least we can do is keep them as safe as possible.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-12   9:42:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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