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Title: John Bolton Suggests Nuclear Attack on Iran
Source: The Faster Times
URL Source: http://thefastertimes.com/diplomacy ... ggests-nuclear-attack-on-iran/
Published: Oct 15, 2009
Author: The Faster Times
Post Date: 2009-10-15 12:12:38 by Brian S
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This Friday, the American Enterprise Institute will host an event addressing the question “Should Israel attack Iran?” The event includes, among others, Iran uberhawk Michael Rubin and infamous “torture lawyer” John Yoo, but the real star is likely to be John Bolton, the former U.N. ambassador whose right-of-Attila views left him an outcast even within the second Bush administration. (Bolton was eventually forced out when it became clear that he would be unable to win Senate confirmation for the U.N. post.)

If Bolton’s recent rhetoric is any indication, his AEI appearance may accomplish the formidable feat of making Michael Rubin sound like a dove. Discussing Iran during a Tuesday speech at the University of Chicago, Bolton appeared to call for nothing less than an Israeli nuclear first strike against the Islamic Republic. (The speech, sponsored by the University Young Republicans and Chicago Friends of Israel, was titled, apparently without a trace of irony, “Ensuring Peace.”)

“Negotiations have failed, and so too have sanctions,” Bolton said, echoing his previously-stated belief that sanctions will prove ineffectual in changing Tehran’s behavior. “So we’re at a very unhappy point — a very unhappy point — where unless Israel is prepared to use nuclear weapons against Iran’s program , Iran will have nuclear weapons in the very near future.”

Bolton made clear that the latter option is unacceptable. “There are some people in the administration who think that it’s not really a problem, we can contain and deter Iran, as we did the Soviet Union during the Cold War. I think this is a great, great mistake and a dangerously weak approach…Whatever else you want to say about them, at least the Soviets believed that they only went around once in this world, and they weren’t real eager to give that up — as compared to a theological regime in Tehran which yearns for life in the hereafter more than life on earth…I don’t think [deterrence] works that way with a country like Iran.”

While Bolton coyly refused to spell out his conclusion, the implications of his argument were clear. If neither negotiations, nor sanctions, nor deterrence are options, then by his logic the only remaining option is for “Israel…to use nuclear weapons against Iran’s program.”

Of course, it is nothing new for Bolton and his neoconservative allies to threaten an Israeli strike against Iran. But Bolton’s use of the “n-word” is, I believe, new for him, and marks a significant rhetorical escalation from the hawks. An Israeli strike, nuclear or otherwise, without U.S. permission remains unlikely. But as it often the case, I suspect that Bolton’s intention is less to give an accurate description of reality than it is to stake out positions extreme enough to shift the boundaries of debate as a whole to the right. Subscribe to *Iranian Conflict*

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

“So we’re at a very unhappy point — a very unhappy point — where unless Israel is prepared to use nuclear weapons against Iran’s program , Iran will have nuclear weapons in the very near future.”

Ned Flanders is a raging IDIOT!!

abraxas  posted on  2009-10-15   12:33:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: abraxas (#1)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-15   12:38:47 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

I genuinely feel sorry for the Iranian people who will suffer under the coming ZioNazi attack.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-10-15   12:50:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: X-15 (#3)

I genuinely feel sorry for the Iranian people who will suffer under the coming ZioNazi attack.

With todays announcement that israel will start distribution of the new civilian gas mask, that concern is indeed warranted.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2009-10-15   12:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#0)

And I suggest that John Bolton go soak his hot head in a pail of ice water. Bolt is a Dolt.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-10-15   12:57:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Brian S (#4)

With todays announcement that israel will start distribution of the new civilian gas mask, that concern is indeed warranted.

Israel distributes gas masks to its Jewish citizens ( I'm not sure if non-Jewish Israelis are given gas masks) whenever it wants to draw attention to itself, which is pretty frequent. The gesture means nothing - just more "look at me" bad theater.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-10-15   13:02:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: scrapper2 (#5)

Bolt is a Dolt

Bolton is a jew israel firster. 2 types of people you should never trust in the the US, people of jewish and chinese heritage.

Isreal is just upset that if Iran get's the bomb, israel will no longer be able to bully them around.

belmontconservative  posted on  2009-10-15   13:04:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Brian S (#0)

Bolton should be taken behind the barn and put out of his misery.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-10-15   13:08:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Brian S (#0)

Putin may NUKE Aparteidrael if Iran is attacked.

Then, it is anybodies guess, WWIII.

Bolton and his gang are psychopaths for certain.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2009-10-15   13:10:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: b s (#0)

netanyoohoo and obamalamadingdong have a plan i'm sure...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-15   13:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: scrapper2 (#6)

Israel distributes gas masks to its Jewish citizens ( I'm not sure if non-Jewish Israelis are given gas masks) whenever it wants to draw attention to itself, which is pretty frequent. The gesture means nothing - just more "look at me" bad theater.

I have to disagree. I have been following the gas mask collection and plans for redistribution for years and they did indeed collect the masks and have delayed reissue until now...

Some related articles:

Government Compels Israelis To Return Gas Masks, Now Won't Replace Them
Score: 84
Post Date: 2007-11-04 21:27:09 by Brian S
11 Comments
The billion dollar underground city being built near Modiin where a few thousand public officials and their families will flee in the event of a nuclear or chemical attack, while millions of Israeli have been left defenseless, without even the gas masks they once owned, because of a budget deficit of several hundred million dollars (Google Earth). The IDF lacks more than NIS 1 billion ($250 million) to buy new gas masks and refurbish the millions of civil defense kits that have been recently collected from the public, the Jerusalem Post reported Wednesday, quoting defense officials. They said if the missing money was not appropriated in the coming months, the whole refurbishing project

ISRAEL: Collecting Gas Masks Eliminates Public's Protection Against Attacks
Score: 84
Post Date: 2007-07-16 19:58:27 by Brian S

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A Knesset security sub-committee said yesterday that the failure to collect and renovate gas masks could lead to a de facto collapse of national civil defense. The sub-committee of the Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee asked the State Comptroller to probe suspicions that former defense minister Shaul Mofaz had misled the Knesset, and that commercial interests relating to the gas masks had influenced life and death decisions. The sub-committee, headed by MK Yuval Steinitz (Likud), said that the home front's readiness and alertness to chemical threats has been in constant retreat over the last few years. The Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee approved in 2005 collecting the gas ...

Most Israelis Won't Have Gas Masks If War Breaks Out
Score: 87
Post Date: 2007-07-10 21:28:23 by Brian S
15 Comments
More than 50 percent of Israelis will not be in possession of an updated gas mask if war breaks out in the coming six months with Syria as a growing number of defense officials are warning, reported The Jerusalem Post. The last time Israelis updated their gas masks and emergency kits was prior to the US invasion of Iraq in 2003. The government of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, still stinging from its failures in southern Lebanon last summer, is trying to downplay the possibility of a war with Syria, and so has not ordered Israel's Home Front Command to open gas mask distribution centers. Syria's missile arsenal includes an unknown number of warheads armed with chemical and biological ...

Israel: Defense Ministry To Recollect Gas Masks
Score: 85
Post Date: 2006-04-03 12:08:21 by Brian S
3 Comments
The Defense Ministry will begin recollecting gas mask kits from Israel's citizens and residents in the coming months. The ministry on Monday will publicize a contract for collection of some 6,800,000 gas mask kits distributed to Israel's citizens and residents in the run-up to the March 2003 American invasion of Iraq. Most of the kits will be refreshed and restocked, while some one-third are considered unfit for use and will be discarded.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2009-10-15   13:13:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Lysander_Spooner (#9)

Putin may NUKE Aparteidrael if Iran is attacked.

Then, it is anybodies guess, WWIII.

Yes, we have pretty much the same agreement to defend Israhell as Britain/France had with Poland in the late 1930's: a recipe for world-disaster.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-10-15   13:22:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Brian S (#11)

Good list, Brian. I found 2 dates you missed though. Btw, did you know that anyone - maybe even Iranians - can buy Israeli manufactured gas masks through Amazon? I was shocked to learn that when I googled "gas masks Israel" just now. Anyways I still hold my belief that this gas mask thingie is just a bogus "look at me, I'm so scared " Israeli ploy to build up support in the West for its obnoxious self.

www.voanews.com/english/a...fe10cbc802861186f3946dd4f

"Israel to Redistribute Gas Masks Amid Fears of War with Iran" April 02, 2008.

www.nytimes.com/1990/10/0...ns-receive-gas-masks.html

"Confrontation in the Gulf; Israel's Citizens Receive Gas Masks" Oct. 08, 1990

scrapper2  posted on  2009-10-15   14:04:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: X-15 (#12)

Israhell

It has been and always will be a disaster.

"The idea that the State originated to serve any kind of social purpose is completely unhistorical. It originated in conquest and confiscation— that is to say, in crime. It originated for the purpose of maintaining the division of society into an owning- and-exploiting class and a propertyless dependent class — that is, for a criminal purpose." ~ Albert Jay Nock

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2009-10-15   14:07:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Brian S (#0)

John Bolton is a former Goldman Sachs employee.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2009-10-15   15:43:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: scrapper2 (#13)

Anyways I still hold my belief that this gas mask thingie is just a bogus "look at me, I'm so scared

I think the whole neocon march to way is quite stalled. The theater that they're putting on smells of fear and desperation.

Absent something significant going boom, there is no way forward for them. Everyone around the world is watching very carefully right now. It's not going to be easy to mount another 2001 style attack.

Not only did a lot of folks die, but even more folks took it in the pocketbook. The latter, human nature being what it is, probably counts for more than the former.

randge  posted on  2009-10-15   16:58:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: randge (#16)

I think the whole neocon march to war is quite stalled.

Maybe so - the neocon version, that is.

But the neolibs' march into a deeper war in Afghanistan has a head of steam. And going full throttle ahead in Afghanistan along with keeping US troop occupiers in Iraq boxes Iran in, which is what both the neocons and neolibs want, because that's what Izzy wants.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-10-15   17:07:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: scrapper2 (#17)

Right you are. A good workman knows when his tool is too dull for the job. The neocon implement has not only lost its edge, it is quite clapped out. The war party have found fresh instuments with which to slice and dice their fellow man.

I hope to God that they are all hauled up in front of a tribunal some day on charges of TERRORISM.

randge  posted on  2009-10-15   17:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: randge, scrapper2 (#18)

bump


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-15   17:34:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Brian S (#0)

"Die Verhandlungen sind gescheitert, und so haben auch Sanktionen" Bolton said, echoing his previously-stated belief that sanctions will prove ineffectual in changing Tehran’s behavior. "Also sind wir auf einem sehr unglücklich Punkt - eine sehr unglückliche Punkt - wo, wenn Israel bereit ist, Atomwaffen gegen das iranische Atomprogramm zu verwenden, wird der Iran Atomwaffen in sehr naher Zukunft haben."

Bolton made clear that the latter option is unacceptable. "Es gibt einige Leute in der Verwaltung, die glauben, dass es nicht wirklich ein Problem, wir können enthalten und den Iran abzuschrecken, wie wir die Sowjetunion während des Kalten Krieges. Ich denke, das ist ein großer, großer Fehler und eine gefährlich schwach Ansatz ... Alles, was Sie sonst wollen über sie zu sagen zumindest die Sowjets glaubten, sie gingen nur etwa einmal in dieser Welt, und sie waren nicht wirklich gern, dass aufgeben - im Vergleich zu einer theologischen Regime in Teheran die für das Leben im Jenseits sehnt sich mehr als das Leben auf der Erde ... Ich ziehe & 039 an; t denken [Abschreckung] Arbeiten, die Art und Weise mit einem Land wie dem Iran "

The proclamations of warmongers seem to have more impact when quoted in the original German.

I nominate Obama for the Chernobyl Prize.

PnbC  posted on  2009-10-16   15:26:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: PnbC (#20)

The proclamations of warmongers seem to have more impact when quoted in the original German.

Except when posted in phony machine-translation Kraut.

The nazis of movies decades from now will be speaking English in mid-western accents - or in a Michael Savage Brooklyn whine.

randge  posted on  2009-10-16   15:43:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: PnbC (#20)

I nominate Obama for the Chernobyl Prize.

;);)

"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency Bill."--Charles Lindbergh, Sr.

christine  posted on  2009-10-16   15:45:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: randge (#21)

Except when posted in phony machine-translation Kraut.

Yeah yeah, I know it was a heavy-handed approach to an old joke. I don't really mean to riff on Germans. They may even have learned a thing or two more than the USA on such matters.

The nazis of movies decades from now will be speaking English in mid-western accents - or in a Michael Savage Brooklyn whine.

Could be, could be. When folks say that if the US hadn't entered WW2 we'd all be speaking German (laughable and ludicrous assumption), I'd like to counter to them that maybe we should be, given the government's foreign and domestic policies.

I nominate Obama for the Chernobyl Prize.

PnbC  posted on  2009-10-16   15:54:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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