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Title: Ok my Forum is up and running (rough copy) Tell all Ex-LFers
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Published: Oct 15, 2009
Author: lightningrod
Post Date: 2009-10-15 19:31:00 by lightningrod
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Ok my Forum is up and running (rough copy) Tell all Ex-LFers Here is the Main Page: Here is the Secondary page (not finished): www.demongov.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=cfrm I need help there in deciding the Forum Categories and subforums I just registered with the username lightningrod Click Login on the upper right corner Than click register On top it says: Enter your Username and Password to log in. If you have not yet registered, you can register here. I had to put a fake email address for the Public Email (I just fixed that option, and it is not required anymore) I put a fake birthday You must put your real email address in the: Email Address: Re-type Email Address: I had to put a fake one in the: Public Email Address: I put: noneofyourbusiness@noneofyourbusiness.com I could not upload an Avatar right now. I'll try to fix that later. I than fixed the problem with the Public Email I just changed the option to Not Required I did not notice that Option before
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#18. To: Jethro Tull (#14)
Not me. I am different. I am common Rif_Raf. There is a marked difference, you know.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
May I misquote you on that?
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. You may do anything you like, my dear.
That's what separates us from crazy-eyed jungle cats and stuff: Free Will!
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. That's got to be one of the most messed up things I've ever seen.
Umm, thank you, I guess? :)
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. Why is that? It is nothing more than a documentary of what happens in the WhiteHouse.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
You can take the bunny out of the jungle, but you can't take the jungle out of the bunny.
Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? - buckeroo Now now buck, that's not being politically correct and diverse and stuff. We need to celebrate other cultures you know. I think I'm going to try that dance myself, right in the middle of the supermarket. Maybe I'll find myself a fine womin or sumthin.
That certainly was a gem...
I was sure that was a documentary of Hussein and Michelle laying claim to the new, social mores of America. Are you saying I have my wires crossed?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
No shiite.
Not even Todd Brenden Fahey?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
i'll sign up only after BinkyClowner signs up
Good luck with it, but why reinvent the wheel?
my forum had one rule, no talking about other forums.
Randian Flatulence?
How impolite that you are using and abusing christine's site to ramp up interest in your startup. Buy a clue and get some 'net manners, why don't you? Since you have posting rights here, why don't you send discrete IM's to people you know, instead of starting this self-serving vanity thread, which messes up discussion of real news. Honestly, some people...
What a winner the (ahem) forum operater is...encouraging./s
How did you get a video of Mikey the Weasel on his wedding night?
Ted Kennedy Is Now Eligible To Vote In Chicago.
LRod has always been big on vanity threads - even on ol' LF.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Fahey was spot on in his reporting on Cong. Larry McDonald's death. Even Ron Paul hesitated during an interview when McDonald's name came up. Paul knows McDonald was murdered.
Ted Kennedy Is Now Eligible To Vote In Chicago.
Hmmm Wonder what Ron Paul knows about Larry McDonald?
Better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not.
He knows that his good health depends on saying nuttin' about nuttin' concerning Larry McDonald.
Congressman Larry McDonald Exposed the New World Order Tyranny by Alexander James The Hidden History of Money June 15th, 2004 On February 17, 1950, CFR member James Warburg (banker, and architect of the Federal Reserve System) stated before a Senate Foreign Relations Committee, "We shall have one world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent." Again, the media remained silent. In the April 1974 issue of the CFR journal, "Foreign Affairs", page 558, Richard Gardener states that the new world order "will be built... but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault." Congressman McDonald, Heinz and Tower stated that this is a conspiracy. Again, the media remained silent. (Reference 14, P. 17, 18, 32, 33). THE CFR WANTS TO ABOLISH THE CONSTITUTION. (Reference 14) WE MUST STOP THEM!! $$$ Larry McDonald was killed along with 268 other passengers on Korean Air Lines (KAL) flight 007, shot down over Sakhalin Island in the Sea of Japan. According to one version, all bodies were recovered, except the bodies of the pilot and copilot. Some of the extremely suspicious information regarding KAL 007 include that the Flight was off course with plenty of fuel while commercial flights commonly take a short cut over Sakhalin when low on fuel. Radio response in Russian airspace is commonplace with Russian pilots monitoring the path of commercial planes; Russian pilots radioed KAL 007 with no response from the pilots; Russian pilots fired warning shots with visible tracers past the cockpit; the KAL pilots did not acknowledge the warning shots or tracers; Two parachutes were seen by inhabitants of the Aleutian islands prior to the plane being shot down; the Flight recorder was recovered by a US. Submarine but the data was classified by the CIA. The media reporting was scant and short-lived and not a single mention was publicly made about the fact that McDonald had been heading a congressional effort to expose what he called a dangerous international conspiracy. According to another version, the plane landed on Sakhalin Island. [From "The Assassination of Congressman Larry McDonald," by Todd Brendan Fahey - - from which Mr. Alexander James has lifted copiously and without attribution (that's called "plagiarism," folks), and by clicking the link above, you'll see it loud and clear...nevertheless, this is a good book and I'm willing to let Mr. James slide...]: "Dan Rather's face came on the screen, August 31/September 1, 1983, reporting that a passenger aircraft had been shot down by Soviet fighter planes over the Sea of Japan. And aboard was Congressman Lawrence Patton "Larry" McDonald. What Mr. Rather didn't say, as no one dared say, for several days after the event...the damage control operation being, I assume, of incredible proportions...is that Larry McDonald was not only a 5-term U.S. Congressman, Democrat, from Georgia's 7th district, but that he was simultaneously Chairman of the John Birch Society and President of Western Goals Foundation. What Mr. Rather also did not say--never will say--is, that Dr. McDonald (he was a Board certified physician, an M.D., with flight surgeon experience aboard Airforce 2, the Vice President's craft) had announced that he would run for the Presidency of the United States in 1988, fact confirmed by McDonald's trusted advisor and former OSS agent Hilaire duBerrier and by officials at John Birch Society's headquarters and also via associates of Dr. McDonald, through his Western Goals Foundation. Not coincidentally, 1988 was the year that George Bush ran for the Presidency and won. George Herbert Walker Bush had been or was, currently, Director of the Central Intelligence Agency; Ambassador to the United Nations; Chairman of the Republican National Committee; a prominent member and director in the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission and Yale's Masonic Order of Skull & Bones, chapter 322. Dr. Larry McDonald was the loudest, most sophisticated, elegant and handsome opponent of World Government on the face of the planet. He was our Patrick Henry and Ben Franklin and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, rolled up into one. The man was a soul on fire. Things came to loggerheads. There was no avoiding it. And when the word came, Larry McDonald was TAKEN OUT--assassinated- -UPON ORDERS OF U.S. CIA, for exposing and attempting and threatening to expose the inner-sanctum secrets of the planners of World Government." [all of the above, in quotations, by Fahey] Early in 1985, while as a criminal justice student at Arizona State University, Todd Brendan Fahey attended a gathering at Clarendon Towers, Phoenix (a ritzy high-rise), where lived J. Wayne Watson, then a member of the National Council of the John Birch Society. Mr. Watson had sort of taken him under his wing and was instrumental in channeling donations into Students for the John Birch Society at ASU, of which he was founder and chapter leader. The guest speaker at Clarendon Towers was one Hilaire duBerrier--a former operative of the OSS (Office of Strategic Services, under the command of "Wild" Bill Donovan), which was the precursor to the CIA. Mr. duBerrier was Larry McDonald's most-trusted advisor. At this meeting, Mr. duBerrier reported (and which was filmed by an old doctor in Phoenix, whose name Todd possesses, and who is now deceased; the whereabouts of this videocassette are unknown at this time) that:... "1) Lawrence Patton McDonald was a cousin of the late General George S. Patton. 2) General George S. Patton had collaborated with German spymaster Reinhard Gehlen (Gehlen Org), toward re-arming the remainder of the German army and mounting a German/US invasion of the Soviet Union. 3) Through nepotism and the fact that Larry McDonald was a genius and a master spy himself, eventually Gehlen Org was given over to Congressman Larry McDonald. Larry McDonald possessed most of the secrets held by the legendary Reinhard Gehlen, and Gehlen's operatives were now under the control of Larry McDonald. 4) Congressman McDonald had planted personnel sympathetic to the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights deep into 5 or 6 international Embassies, by which McDonald could obtain information pertinent to the goings-on of these nations. 5) Congressman McDonald had also, somehow, impossibly, managed to retrieve and secure nearly the sum-total of the House Un-American Activity Committee's (HUAC) records of the 1950s, which held sensitive information relative to communist infiltration of many branches of the U.S. Government, including the State Department and Dept. of Treasury, and also files on Hollywood leftists/communists. Many of McDonald's staffers called his office, 'HUAC East.' 6) Dr. McDonald had extremely friendly and cooperative relationships with at least six (6) U.S. military Generals and two (2) Naval Admirals. It is surmised by some that the failsafe mechanism that Larry McDonald was building was--in any case of extreme breach of the Constitution--to mount a coup upon Washington, D.C., whereby Larry McDonald and his vast military "followers" (and given the names of the Generals and Colonels loyal to McDonald, there would have been two hundred thousand ready participants, at the whistle call) and would surround Washington D.C. and seize back the control of the U.S. Constitution, as it was intended to be exercised by our Founders." [again, the above, in quotaions, by Fahey] In the 1970's and the 1980's, Congressman Larry McDonald was the one who spearheaded the efforts against the Bush version of the New World Order. As a sovereigntist and Constitutionalist, a mortal foe of the Council on Foreign Relations and Trilateral Commission, of which so many in Washington are a part-- then State Department Secretary George P. Schultz and President George Herbert Walker Bush both prime-movers in the rush to Globalism--it is as if it was decided, by the powers-that-be, that Larry McDonald and the 61 other Americans aboard Korean Airlines flight 007 might better to be put to rest. In 1976 he wrote the introduction to the "Rockefeller File", a book exposing the Rockefeller' financial holdings and secret intentions. The book supposedly revealed that the Rockefeller had as many as two hundred trusts and foundation type organizations, and that the actual number of such foundations controlled by the family might well number into the thousands. Such control IS possible because Rockefeller banks, such as Chase Manhattan, have become the trustees for many other U.S. foundations as well; possessing the right to invest and to vote the capital and common stock of these institutions--through the trust department of the bank. McDonald did everything in his power to warn the American public. However, as usual, the attempt was to no avail. He stated unequivocally, that the Rockefeller intended to control "--first our own country, and then the world!" He went on to state. "Do I mean conspiracy? Yes, yes I do. I am convinced there is a plot, national and international." McDonald's warning was written on legal congressional letterhead and was dated November, 1975. During the ensuing years, frustrated by the media's refusal to report his findings, he began, like others and myself, to take his message to the streets by speaking out against these forces publicly to anyone who would listen to him. McDonald's courageous efforts came to an abrupt end on August 31, 1983 when he was killed aboard the Korean Airliner 007 flight, which "accidentally" strayed over Soviet airspace and was "accidentally" shot down. Today, as with many other true patriots, very little remains of his fight for freedom. Critical information does kill the holder. You, the public, are expected to believe that it was pure coincidence, just as we are supposed to believe that the recent (1991) deaths of Senator John Heinz and former Senator John Tower, in two separate crashes were "pure" coincidence as well. Tower had been an outspoken critic of the "Eastern Establishment" (a euphemism for ONE WORLD ORDER), even though he had himself been associated with such organizations. He had a very strong sense of right and wrong, particularly on matters concerning national security. He was well known for "bucking" the tide. This backfired on him with deadly results when certain members of Congress, loyal to the Regan(Reagan) and Bush faction of the Intelligence Community (Faction #1), banded together against him in a smear campaign which resulted in the denial of Tower's confirmation as U.S. Secretary of Defense. Outraged over the undocumented allegation made to slander his name, Tower began the book writing process so feared in Washington circles. His controversial book heavily criticizes his old crony pals in Congress. His death in a plane crash on April 5, 1991 came very shortly after the book was released. One day earlier (April 4, 1991), Senator John Heinz died in a blazing plane crash near Philadelphia. The official reports state that the plane's landing gear had suddenly malfunctioned. A helicopter was sent up to check out the gear, only to end up (allegedly) crashing into the plane itself. We are really stretching the "coincidence theory" when we state that two freak accidents occurred in One! First, the landing gear fails, and then the rescue aircraft slams into the plane. No one should make book as to the veracity of such obviously slanted and untrue reports. Heinz and Tower had both been members of a prominent One-World society known as the Council on Foreign Relations, the CFR and realized its plans for world tyranny. Both had served on powerful Senate banking and finance committees, and had known a great deal about the matters discussed in this article. I suppose the obvious question must read..."could they have known too much?" I submit that they in fact...knew too much! Both were very astute when it came to matters of monetary policy and the implementation of foreign policy. Yes, without doubt, they knew too much. Although accidents do happen, how much longer are we supposed to believe that all of these "so called" accidents are mere coincidence? The American people must wake up immediately and realize that the "Labels" applied to them are merely a way of dividing and conquering. One has only to remember the 1992 republican convention and its blatant attempt to divide and conquer the American people with obvious divisive and untrue statements. Wake up America and understand why the "One World Elite" needs to label groups. As an example, when the women's movement began to gain momentum and presented problems to the entrenched elite, a way had to be found to neutralize the power of the women's movement. Women who join together and fight for common causes such as child care, health care and education are a formidable force. To keep such a powerful force from taking over government, the "think tanks" created the solution...divide and conquer. Turn women against each other and they will never be able to become a powerful political force. The method they chose to divide and conquer the growing women's movement was abortion. Other methods are employed in other areas...first label, then divide, then conquer. My lengthy digression can be summed up in one sentence: Forget all the old labels, become American patriots...it's the only way to save America. During the 1960's and 1970's, thanks to the efforts of Congressman Wright Patman, Larry McDonald, and others, the message of a "One World Conspiracy" had begun to reach the "reading" American people. The usual action groups were formed by various citizens in an urgent attempt to get this information into the hands of the public, However, as usual, without coverage from the major media, their efforts have had only limited results. These groups have had to rely on self-published newsletters and books. Numerous radio appearances also were used to spread the word. The task of educating the American public is not a simple one, but rather and more so, based and predicated upon numerous unpublicized speaking engagements in order to get the word out. Such is the stress associated with an active grassroots campaign. Lt. Col. Archibald Roberts is one of the individuals who has made significant impact. As Director of the Committee to Restore the Constitution, he began testifying before state legislatures, informing our elected officials, at the state level, about the deception surrounding the Federal Reserve Act. His campaign, urging state legislatures to repeal the Federal Reserve Act was, according to Agency records, launched on March 30, 1971, when he testified before the Wisconsin House of Representatives. The text of Roberts' address was subsequently entered in the Congressional Record on April 19, 1991 by Louisiana Congressman John Rarick. As a result of Roberts' work, by the mid 1980's, approximately twenty states had taken some form of action to pass legislation, calling either for an audit of the Fed, or for the repeal of the Federal Reserve Act. However, there has been virtually no media coverage, and the American public is still largely unaware of the intense battle going on behind the scenes of the Washington Establishment. During June, 1989, the battle waged at the state level had once again reached Congress. Representative Henry Gonzalez, of Texas, introduced House Resolution 1469, calling for the abolition of the Open Market Committee of the Federal Reserve System. He also introduced House Resolution 1470, calling for the repeal of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. During the same session, Representative Phil Crane of Illinois, introduced H.R. 70, calling for an annual audit of the Federal Reserve. However, all of these efforts, like those of others before them, failed. We have personally come to know that it is far more than merely difficult to get the public behind a legitimate cause or issue, if the media refuses to cover it. Obviously such coverage is necessary in order to get the public to put the kind of pressure on Congress that will lead to action. This is particularly true of a Congress in which One-World interests now hold the upper hand, and own the media. John Birch Society founder, Robert Welch, was succeeded upon his death in 1983 by the former Congressman Larry McDonald. Lawrence Patton McDonald was a cousin of George S. Patton, Jr., the famous general who was killed in an automobile accident at the conclusion of World War II. According to Conspiracies of World War II by J.S. Craig, "The common rumor in Germany at the time was that Patton was assassinated due to his wish to join forces with Germany and attack Russia. Patton had openly admitted that the Allies had defeated 'the wrong enemy' and repeatedly praised German industry and the discipline of its people." E. H. Cookridge also recorded Gen. Patton's pro-Nazi attitude and subsequent demise in Gehlen: Spy of the Century -- an expose of the CIA's recruitment of high- level Nazi espionage agents: ...General Patton was dreaming of rearming a couple of Waffen SS divisions to incorporate them into his US Third Army "and lead them against the Reds". Patton had put this plan quite seriously to General Joseph T. McNarney, deputy US military governor in Germany, who had relayed Marshall Zhukov's complaint that the Third Army was too slow in disbanding and confining German units in its Bavarian sector. "What do you think those ****** bolshies think?" said Patton. "We're going to have to fight them sooner or later. Why not now while our army is intact and we can kick the Red Army back into Russia? We can do it with my Germans..." McNarney, petrified, reported this to his political advisor, Robert Murphy, who promptly asked Patton to come and see him. Patton was not in the least subdued. "He inquired with a gleam in his eye", Murphy later wrote, "whether there was any chance of going on to Moscow, which he said he could reach in thirty days, instead of waiting for the Russians to attack the United States." The outcome of this and other indiscretions was that Eisenhower relieved Patton of his command on October 2, 1945. Two months later he was fatally injured in a car crash. In 1979, Gen. Patton's cousin, Congressman Lawrence McDonald, founded the Western Goals Foundation as a front for the JBS intelligence network. McDonald directed the organization until his untimely death in the downing of the Korean airliner, KAL 007 in 1983, the year he succeeded Robert Welch as JBS Chairman. Western Goals was discontinued in 1986 following a power struggle for McDonald's position. According to the Interhemispheric Resource Center GroupWatch, files of which are available on the Public Information Research database, Western Goals had worked with Reinhard Gehlen: McDonald formed a foundation branch in West Germany in 1981. The organization, called the American-European Strategy Research Institute, was set up with a $131,982 injection from the U.S. office. That figure represented more than a third of Western Goals' operating budget at the time... The German affiliate is Western Goals Europe E.V.(5) This German branch is also known as the American-European Strategy Institute. It acknowledges working with Reinhard Gehlen, a former Nazi who has been honored by the elite lay Catholic organization, the Knights of Malta (SMOM).(8) SMOM gave its highest award of honor, the Gran Croci Al Merito Conplacca, to Gehlen in l948. Gehlen, who was not a Catholic, was awarded the honor because of his efforts in the "crusade against godless Communism." Gehlen headed Adolf Hitler's spy operations against the Soviet Union during World War II. After the war, he and his spy apparatus-- staffed mostly by former Nazis--were recruited by the CIA. He became the first director of the BND, West Germany's intelligence agency. In November of 1975, Congressman Larry P. McDonald spearheaded efforts against the New World Order. He wrote the introduction to The Rockefeller File which stated: “The Rockefeller File is not fiction. It is a compact, powerful and frightening presentation of what may be the most important story of our lifetime - the drive of the Rockefellers and their allies to create a one-world government combining super-capitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.......not one has dared reveal the most vital part of the Rockefeller story: that the Rockefellers and their allies have, for at least fifty years, been carefully following a plan to use their economic power to gain political control of first America, and then the rest of the world. Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent”. On 31 August 1983, McDonald was killed aboard Korean Airline 007 flight which "accidentally" strayed over Soviet airspace and was "accidentally" shot down. The media reporting was scant and short-lived and not a single mention was publicly made about the fact that McDonald had been heading a congressional effort to expose what he called a dangerous international conspiracy. Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the 1983 Korean Airlines 747 (flight KAL007) that was shot down by the Soviets, said: "The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and communism under the same tent, all under their control...Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." In 1981, Congressman Larry McDonald called for comprehensive congressional investigation of the CFR and Trilateral Commission. Congress is urged to investigate these organizations Zbignew Brezinski (CFR/TLC member and appointed National Security Advisor during Jimmy Carter’s presidency in 1976) in his book “The Grand Chessboard” page 40: “To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together." Dr. Johannes Koeppl, seconded from the German defense ministry to NATO in the late 1970s: “Brzezinski's book is sublimely arrogant. While singing the praises of the IMF and the World Bank, which have economically terrorized nations on every continent, and while totally ignoring the worldwide terrorist actions of the U.S. government that have led to genocide; cluster bombings of civilian populations from Kosovo, to Laos, to Iraq, to Afghanistan; the development and battlefield use of both biological and chemical agents such as sarin gas; and the financial rape of entire cultures it would leave the reader believing that such actions are for the good of mankind.” "In 1983/4 I warned of a take-over of world governments being orchestrated by these people. There was an obvious plan to subvert true democracies, and selected leaders were not being chosen based upon character but upon their loyalty to an economic system run by the elites and dedicated to preserving their power. All we have now are pseudo- democracies." While, Dr. Johannes Koeppl met with Brzezinski in the White House on more than one occasion. His other Washington contacts included Steve Larabee from the CFR, John J. McCloy, former CIA Director, economist Milton Friedman, and officials from Carter's Office of Management and Budget. He soon realized that Brzezinski was part of a group intending to impose a world dictatorship. Koeppl recalls meeting U.S. Congressman Larry McDonald, then contemplating a run for the Presidency, who was a severe critic of these elites. He was killed in the Russian shoot down of Korean Air flight 007 in 1983 which Koeppl believes might have been an assassination. Koeppl warnings, through Op-Ed pieces published in NEWSWEEK and elsewhere, that Brzezinski and the CFR were part of an effort to impose a global dictatorship brought a swift fall from grace. "It was a criminal society that I was dealing with. It was not possible to publish anymore in the so-called respected publications. My 30 year career in politics ended. Today, this is Koeppl's warning: "This is more than a war against terrorism. This is a war against the citizens of all countries. The current elites are creating so much fear that people don't know how to respond. But they must remember. This is a move to implement a world dictatorship within the next five years. There may not be another chance." Mikhail Gorbachev's speech to the Soviet Politburo November 1987: "Gentlemen, comrads, do not be concerned about all you hear about Glasnost and Perestroika and democracy in the coming years. These are primarily for outward consumption. There will be no significant internal changes in the Soviet Union, other than for cosmetic purposes. Our purpose is to disarm the Americans and let them fall asleep. We want to accomplish three things: One, we want the Americans to withdraw conventional forces from Europe. Two, we want them to withdraw nuclear forces Americans to stop proceeding with strategic Defense Initiative. Senator Jesse Helms 15 December 1987, Excerpts from his speech before the Senate: This campaign against the American people - against traditional American culture and values - is systematic psychological warfare. It is orchestrated by a vast array of interest comprising not only the Eastern establishment but also the radical left. Among this group we find the Department of State, the Department of Commerce, the money center banks and multinational corporations, the media, the educational establishment, the entertainment industry, and the large tax-exempt foundations. Mr. President, a careful examination of what is happening behind the scenes reveals that all of these interests are working in concert with the masters of the Kremlin in order to create what some refer to as a new world order. Private organizations such as the Council on Foreign Relation, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, the Trilateral Commission, the Dartmouth Conference, the Aspen Institute for Humanistic Studies, the Atlantic Institute, and the Bilderberger Group serve to disseminate and to coordinate the plans for this so- called new world order in powerful business, financial, academic, and official circles.... The psychological campaign that I am describing, as I have said, is the work of groups within the Eastern establishment, that amorphous amalgam of wealth and social connections whose power resides in its control over our financial system and over a large portion of our industrial sector. The principal instrument of this control over the American economy and money is the Federal Reserve System. The policies of the industrial sectors, primarily the multinational corporations, are influenced by the money centers through debt financing and through the large blocks of stock controlled by the trust departments of the money center banks. Anyone familiar with American history, and particularly American economic history, cannot fail to notice the control over the Department of State and the Central Intelligence Agency which Wall Street seems to exercise.... The influence of establishment insiders over our foreign policy has become a fact of life in our time. This pervasive influence runs contrary to the real long-term national security of our Nation. It is an influence which, if unchecked, could ultimately subvert our constitutional order. The viewpoint of the establishment today is called globalism. Not so long ago, this viewpoint was called the "one-world" view by its critics. The phrase is no longer fashionable among sophisticates; yet, the phrase "one-world" is still apt because nothing has changed in the minds and actions of those promoting policies consistent with its fundamental tenets. Mr. President, in the globalist point of view, nation-states and national boundaries do not count for anything. Political philosophies and political principles seem to become simply relative. Indeed, even constitutions are irrelevant to the exercise of power. Liberty and tyranny are viewed as neither necessarily good nor evil, and certainly not a component of policy. In this point of view, the activities of international financial and industrial forces should be orientatef to bringing this one-world design - with a convergence of the Soviet and American Systems as its centerpiece - into being.....All that matters to this club is the maximization of profits resulting from the practice of what can be described as finance capitalism, a system which rests upon the twin pillars of debt and monopoly. This isn't real capitalism. It is the road to economic concentration and to political slavery.
"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency Bill."--Charles Lindbergh, Sr.
He was banned for that from the old LF I believe in freedom of speech, but that's just too fuckin' much I cannot allow crazy shit like that on this Forum You're funny.
ping to #44. I didn't realize that Larry McDonald was George Patton's cousin.
"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency Bill."--Charles Lindbergh, Sr.
Interesting.
FUCKING TRAITORS - SATANISTS ! Larry McDonald is one in a long list of GREAT Americans whose blood shall be avenged...
100% true...
Few, and I mean the VERY FEW; have even a CLUE where we are in 'their' scheme nor how long ago it was hatched... If christine wants, when/if I start getting a lot of hits on my site: I will post a link to this Forum on my main site homepage I have no problem with that I already tried telling her how she can put some Ads on this Forum They are commissioned based so if I ever recieve 1 cent from my Ads I would be shocked but it's still worth a try
http://www.demongov.com/ The governments of this world are all demon possessed entities
My Forum will allow posting links to other forums (no porn links though) If christine wants, when/if I start getting a lot of hits on my site: I will post a link to this Forum (her Forum right here - freedom4um) on my main site homepage I have no problem with that
http://www.demongov.com/ The governments of this world are all demon possessed entities
Yep.
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
I need help there in deciding the Forum Categories and subforums Where's the War forum?
George W. Bush ... => SCREWED. Hee Hee ;-]
George W. Bush ... => SCREWED. What Category should I put the War Forum under ? www.demongov.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=cfrm News & Opinion (General) ? Or should I create a new Category ? And what should I name the War Forum ? I cannot decide these details. There is an artistic quality to deciding the Category Names and subforums names. I am not an artist I had a D in Art Class as a kid Art gives me a headache
http://www.demongov.com/ The governments of this world are all demon possessed entities
We're ragamuffin roustabouts, the erstwhile forum homeless all because we each refuse to conform to most rules of civil society.
#19. To: farmfriend (#16)
Fascism is not civil society.
#20. To: Dakmar (#19)
May I misquote you on that?
"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791
#21. To: Dakmar (#17)
#22. To: farmfriend (#20)
#23. To: Jethro Tull (#21)
#24. To: Dakmar (#23)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#25. To: FormerLurker (#24)
#26. To: FormerLurker (#24)
#27. To: Dakmar (#23)
Let me get this straight.
#28. To: buckeroo, Dakmar (#26)
Why is that? It is nothing more than a documentary of what happens in the WhiteHouse.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#29. To: Dakmar (#25)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#30. To: FormerLurker (#28)
#31. To: farmfriend. all (#5)
I have no desire to see any of the old LF people.
#32. To: Lod (#31)
#33. To: lightningrod (#0)
#34. To: lightningrod (#0)
#35. To: Lod, lightningrod (#34)
Good luck with it, but why reinvent the wheel?
"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791
#36. To: lightningrod (#1)
I need some help from some Ex-LFers on choosing the Forum Categories and Subforums
#37. To: lightningrod (#1)
I need some help from some Ex-LFers on choosing the Forum Categories and Subforums
#38. To: scrapper2, literod (#37)
LOL
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#39. To: Dakmar, Mikey The Weasel (#23)
#40. To: scrapper2, ightningrod (#37)
How impolite that you are using and abusing christine's site to ramp up interest in your startup. Buy a clue and get some 'net manners, why don't you? Since you have posting rights here, why don't you send discrete IM's to people you know, instead of starting this self-serving vanity thread, which messes up discussion of real news. Honestly, some people...
#41. To: buckeroo (#32)
Not even Todd Brenden Fahey?
#42. To: Flintlock (#41)
#43. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#42)
Hmmm Wonder what Ron Paul knows about Larry McDonald?
#44. To: Flintlock, scrapper2 (#41)
sianews.com/modules.php?n...ews&file=article&sid=2253
#45. To: lightningrod (#0)
The only guy I would not want here from the old LF was that crazy guy who was advocating legalizing having sex with children
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#46. To: Cynicom (#44)
#47. To: christine (#44)
"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791
#48. To: christine (#44)
Not coincidentally, 1988 was the year that George Bush ran for the Presidency and won. George Herbert Walker Bush had been or was, currently, Director of the Central Intelligence Agency; Ambassador to the United Nations; Chairman of the Republican National Committee; a prominent member and director in the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission and Yale's Masonic Order of Skull & Bones, chapter 322.
What's that in your lap, Poppy ??? 
What do you MENA ?? 
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#49. To: christine (#46)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#50. To: christine (#44)
Dr. Larry McDonald was the loudest, most sophisticated, elegant and handsome opponent of World Government on the face of the planet. He was our Patrick Henry and Ben Franklin and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, rolled up into one. The man was a soul on fire. Things came to loggerheads. There was no avoiding it. And when the word came, Larry McDonald was TAKEN OUT--assassinated- -UPON ORDERS OF U.S. CIA, for exposing and attempting and threatening to expose the inner-sanctum secrets of the planners of World Government."
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#51. To: christine (#44)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#52. To: scrapper2 (#37)
How impolite that you are using and abusing christine's site to ramp up interest in your startup. Buy a clue and get some 'net manners, why don't you? Since you have posting rights here, why don't you send discrete IM's to people you know, instead of starting this self-serving vanity thread, which messes up discussion of real news. Honestly, some people...
#53. To: farmfriend (#35)
my forum had one rule, no talking about other forums.
#54. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
We are the old LF people. And the old FR people. And the old FU people.
#55. To: lightningrod (#0)
www.demongov.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=cfrm
Barack H. Obama . => DOOMED ...... J. A. Carter, (#3 Son)
#56. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
We are the old LF people. And the old FR people. And the old FU people.
Barack H. Obama . => DOOMED ...... J. A. Carter, (#3 Son)
#57. To: iconoclast (#55)
Where's the War forum?
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