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Title: Were the moon landings faked?
Source: NASA
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK2Fy85VyRg&feature=related
Published: Oct 17, 2009
Author: NASA
Post Date: 2009-10-17 00:54:11 by RickyJ
Keywords: None
Views: 3580
Comments: 171

Watch this video and see if you can tell what is very wrong if this was actually filmed on the moon as NASA says it was.

Hint: It is not the bad dropping, but that is suspect too for supposedly taking place on the moon.

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#3. To: RickyJ (#0)

I give up. If it's not the bad dropping, what is it?

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-17   2:52:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: wudidiz (#3) (Edited)

I give up. If it's not the bad dropping, what is it?

We are told by NASA and scientists that the moon has virtually no atmosphere. With no atmosphere there is nothing to propagate vibrations through space commonly know as sound waves. Yet, you can hear the bag the astronaut is trying to change clear as a bell. This was suppose to be happening on the moon, not Earth. So, it would be impossible to hear such sound with nothing to propgate the vibrations to the astronaut's microphone located next to his mouth. Notice, you don't even hear them breathing, so hearing a bag in a vaccum by only touching it with your gloves would be impossible.

RickyJ  posted on  2009-10-17   4:38:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: RickyJ (#4)

Yet, you can hear the bag the astronaut is trying to change clear as a bell. This was suppose to be happening on the moon, not Earth.

Flapdoodle. You are hearing artifacts in the audio transmissions.

We went to the Moon. I personally worked with the Apollo folks and know some of the astronauts. IMHO it is a slap in the face to America to deny one of its great achievements.

Here are just a couple of “proofs” we went to the moon:

Extremely directional dish antennas were used for communications. 1/2 power = .04 deg beam width. In other words you had to be pointing directly at the target (landing site) not just the Moon. Also a transponder to bounce a signal from the Earth to the Moon and back giving the appearance of being there would not work as well. There would have been a pesky time delay twice as long (speed of light and distance) as predicted that you could not eliminate. Can’t violate physics. Also other countries monitored the transmissions from the Moon- nuff said.

Anything flown, thrown, or even the dust being kicked up follows perfectly ballistic arcs. This is most evident in the lunar rover videos. You can see the plumes of dust falling in a perfectly ballistic arc. No sound stage could ever fake this. (Nor could we build a vacuum chamber large enough (even today) for the rovers. Again there is that pesky thing called physics that shows everything moving in 1/6 g. We cannot fake that. We can create 1/6th g by controlled falling (i.e.; the Vomit Comet), however, that is a pretty short lived phenomenon before you hit the ground.

Dr_Tron  posted on  2009-10-17   16:05:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Dr_Tron (#42)

Can’t violate physics

No you can't. So why do you lie about the bag not producing the noise when it is clear that is exactly what is happening. Admit the truth, it will do you good. Why live a lie for the rest of your life?

RickyJ  posted on  2009-10-17   23:18:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: RickyJ (#68) (Edited)

I could continue to post evidence but it would not do any good.

Not sure you why you hate science so much but to each his own I guess. I do find it sad though.

Dr_Tron  posted on  2009-10-18   17:14:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Dr_Tron (#107)

No, it is you who hate science because it exposes your lies. Science is not about lies dude. You know nothing about science, you just know how to lie.

RickyJ  posted on  2009-10-18   22:38:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: RickyJ (#108)

No, it is you who hate science because it exposes your lies. Science is not about lies dude. You know nothing about science, you just know how to lie.

You are saying this to a working scientist in his own field with over 30 years of experience. Something a friend of mine used to post comes to mind. You fit this bill in total.

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"In the history of the world, only a tiny fraction of all the people who ever lived have had the opportunity to ask highly qualified scientists direct questions, and learn from their wisdom. Happily, because of the internet, it was possible for people from all walks of life to converse directly with all sorts of scientific experts; we have had physicists, microbiologists, mathematicians, astronomers, and chemists, to specify but a few, roaming these threads, and eager to explain what they know and how they know it to virtually anyone willing to ask an intelligent question. But there is another segment of people on these threads who, instead of asking these learned folks intelligent questions and thus expanding their knowledge and understanding, insist instead upon bludgeoning them with their ignorance, and questioning the patriotism, honesty, and intellect of people who have dedicated their lives to the pursuit of scientific knowledge.

I submit that such people are not here to learn anything, but are in fact interested in quite the opposite. I submit they are here to interfere with the dissemination of scientific knowledge that they find offensive. They don't want other people to ask the experts questions and learn from them; no, they are here to attack the experts and cast doubt upon their wisdom, in the desperate hope that others will turn away and not listen to them.

IMHO that is why the same people show up over and over again parroting the same refuted diatribes and misinformation, and spewing the same bogus out-of-context quotes designed specifically to disrupt the dissemination of scientific knowledge. That's why the same people show up over and over again misrepresenting what scientific theories and laws are, despite having had it explained to them 1720th time; they are here to instill confusion and spread their ignorance, not to disseminate knowledge.

The experts [who were once] here on these threads ought to be revered and thanked for sharing with us their insights and explanations of the natural world around us; instead scorn is heaped upon them and their knowledge by the belligerently ignorant. I submit that these purveyors of unknowledge should be treated for the intellectual disruptors that they are. They stare stared the best opportunity any of us will ever have to gain more insight and understanding in the eye, and spit spat in the faces of those who offer and have the knowledge to help make that a reality.

Behold, I give you the belligerently ignorant, the intellectual Luddites of our time. Know them for the anti-knowledge disruptors they are."

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Don't call me a liar again.

Doc

Dr_Tron  posted on  2009-10-18   23:21:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Dr_Tron, Original_Intent, Cynicom, Tom007, RIckyJ, christine, Itistoolate, all (#109)

Scientists in general (many - not all) have lied (intentionally) or been dishonest about countless things. Independant critical thinkers are wise to this and much credibility has been lost on the part of Scientists. This is not the fault of the independant thinkers in general.

I'd write more, but I think you get the gist.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-18   23:56:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: wudidiz (#114)

Scientists in general (many - not all) have lied (intentionally) or been dishonest about countless things.

You are not talking to one of those.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-19   0:01:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: farmfriend, Dr. Tron (#115)

Scientists in general (many - not all) have lied (intentionally) or been dishonest about countless things.

You are not talking to one of those.

I'll take your word for it.

Nothing personal to Dr. Tron, but there seems to be at least one anomaly with the moon landing.

What about Global warming for instance? Nasa has some things to say about that.

Does Dr. Tron concur with Nasa about global warming?

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-19   0:24:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#122. To: Dr. Tron, All (#121)

...there seems to be at least one anomaly with the moon landing.

Why did the hammer and feather take twice as long to hit the deck as the bag that fell in the first vid? And from approx the same height?

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-19 00:27:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: wudidiz (#121)

What about Global warming for instance? Nasa has some things to say about that.

Global warming is occurring. The cause OTOH is the sticky wicket. There are natural cyclical variations in the Earth's mean temperature over long periods of time.

Will we see another ice age? IMHO, absolutely; in our lifetimes - nope.

Is global warming the dire threat looming over us and assuring that we are doomed? Again IMHO (and this is a layman’s view - I am not nor have ever been a climate scientist) we are not.

Over my slightly less than 60 odd years of existing on this planet, I have seen many predictions of looming disasters. E.g., Y2K, nuclear war, overpopulation, mass starvation, meteors, comets, cats and dogs sleeping together, etc.

Is global warming an issue we need to look at rationally? - Yes. Run around like Chicken Little? -No.

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