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Title: Were the moon landings faked?
Source: NASA
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK2Fy85VyRg&feature=related
Published: Oct 17, 2009
Author: NASA
Post Date: 2009-10-17 00:54:11 by RickyJ
Keywords: None
Views: 3581
Comments: 171

Watch this video and see if you can tell what is very wrong if this was actually filmed on the moon as NASA says it was.

Hint: It is not the bad dropping, but that is suspect too for supposedly taking place on the moon.

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#3. To: RickyJ (#0)

I give up. If it's not the bad dropping, what is it?

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-17   2:52:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: wudidiz (#3) (Edited)

I give up. If it's not the bad dropping, what is it?

We are told by NASA and scientists that the moon has virtually no atmosphere. With no atmosphere there is nothing to propagate vibrations through space commonly know as sound waves. Yet, you can hear the bag the astronaut is trying to change clear as a bell. This was suppose to be happening on the moon, not Earth. So, it would be impossible to hear such sound with nothing to propgate the vibrations to the astronaut's microphone located next to his mouth. Notice, you don't even hear them breathing, so hearing a bag in a vaccum by only touching it with your gloves would be impossible.

RickyJ  posted on  2009-10-17   4:38:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: RickyJ (#4)

Yet, you can hear the bag the astronaut is trying to change clear as a bell. This was suppose to be happening on the moon, not Earth.

Flapdoodle. You are hearing artifacts in the audio transmissions.

We went to the Moon. I personally worked with the Apollo folks and know some of the astronauts. IMHO it is a slap in the face to America to deny one of its great achievements.

Here are just a couple of “proofs” we went to the moon:

Extremely directional dish antennas were used for communications. 1/2 power = .04 deg beam width. In other words you had to be pointing directly at the target (landing site) not just the Moon. Also a transponder to bounce a signal from the Earth to the Moon and back giving the appearance of being there would not work as well. There would have been a pesky time delay twice as long (speed of light and distance) as predicted that you could not eliminate. Can’t violate physics. Also other countries monitored the transmissions from the Moon- nuff said.

Anything flown, thrown, or even the dust being kicked up follows perfectly ballistic arcs. This is most evident in the lunar rover videos. You can see the plumes of dust falling in a perfectly ballistic arc. No sound stage could ever fake this. (Nor could we build a vacuum chamber large enough (even today) for the rovers. Again there is that pesky thing called physics that shows everything moving in 1/6 g. We cannot fake that. We can create 1/6th g by controlled falling (i.e.; the Vomit Comet), however, that is a pretty short lived phenomenon before you hit the ground.

Dr_Tron  posted on  2009-10-17   16:05:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Dr_Tron (#42)

Can’t violate physics

No you can't. So why do you lie about the bag not producing the noise when it is clear that is exactly what is happening. Admit the truth, it will do you good. Why live a lie for the rest of your life?

RickyJ  posted on  2009-10-17   23:18:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: RickyJ (#68) (Edited)

I could continue to post evidence but it would not do any good.

Not sure you why you hate science so much but to each his own I guess. I do find it sad though.

Dr_Tron  posted on  2009-10-18   17:14:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Dr_Tron (#107)

No, it is you who hate science because it exposes your lies. Science is not about lies dude. You know nothing about science, you just know how to lie.

RickyJ  posted on  2009-10-18   22:38:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: RickyJ (#108)

No, it is you who hate science because it exposes your lies. Science is not about lies dude. You know nothing about science, you just know how to lie.

You are saying this to a working scientist in his own field with over 30 years of experience. Something a friend of mine used to post comes to mind. You fit this bill in total.

______________________________

"In the history of the world, only a tiny fraction of all the people who ever lived have had the opportunity to ask highly qualified scientists direct questions, and learn from their wisdom. Happily, because of the internet, it was possible for people from all walks of life to converse directly with all sorts of scientific experts; we have had physicists, microbiologists, mathematicians, astronomers, and chemists, to specify but a few, roaming these threads, and eager to explain what they know and how they know it to virtually anyone willing to ask an intelligent question. But there is another segment of people on these threads who, instead of asking these learned folks intelligent questions and thus expanding their knowledge and understanding, insist instead upon bludgeoning them with their ignorance, and questioning the patriotism, honesty, and intellect of people who have dedicated their lives to the pursuit of scientific knowledge.

I submit that such people are not here to learn anything, but are in fact interested in quite the opposite. I submit they are here to interfere with the dissemination of scientific knowledge that they find offensive. They don't want other people to ask the experts questions and learn from them; no, they are here to attack the experts and cast doubt upon their wisdom, in the desperate hope that others will turn away and not listen to them.

IMHO that is why the same people show up over and over again parroting the same refuted diatribes and misinformation, and spewing the same bogus out-of-context quotes designed specifically to disrupt the dissemination of scientific knowledge. That's why the same people show up over and over again misrepresenting what scientific theories and laws are, despite having had it explained to them 1720th time; they are here to instill confusion and spread their ignorance, not to disseminate knowledge.

The experts [who were once] here on these threads ought to be revered and thanked for sharing with us their insights and explanations of the natural world around us; instead scorn is heaped upon them and their knowledge by the belligerently ignorant. I submit that these purveyors of unknowledge should be treated for the intellectual disruptors that they are. They stare stared the best opportunity any of us will ever have to gain more insight and understanding in the eye, and spit spat in the faces of those who offer and have the knowledge to help make that a reality.

Behold, I give you the belligerently ignorant, the intellectual Luddites of our time. Know them for the anti-knowledge disruptors they are."

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Don't call me a liar again.

Doc

Dr_Tron  posted on  2009-10-18   23:21:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Dr_Tron (#109)

Don't call me a liar again.

Doc

I agree.

Call me confused, ill informed, crazy, but Liar implies intentional misinformation.

And this is incorrect.

tom007  posted on  2009-10-18   23:37:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: tom007 (#111)

Don't call me a liar again. Doc

I agree.

Call me confused, ill informed, crazy, but Liar implies intentional misinformation.

And this is incorrect

Oh, it is definitely not incorrect when said about "Dr. Tron". He has the same MO of the 911 government stooges. Exactly the same. You can believe what he says about something just as much as you can believe the devil about God. I don't know where the government finds these people. I suspect many are not even Americans.

RickyJ  posted on  2009-10-20   0:02:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: RickyJ (#136)

Well Rick, I disagree, but how the hell NASA could have lost the most valuable film footage is beyond me.

tom007  posted on  2009-10-20   10:17:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: tom007 (#138)

Well Rick, I disagree

Thanks for the support. It actually means a lot to me. It is shocking how much hate RickyJ has for me. Oh well, can't please everyone.

Remember what was lost was a video tape of the TV coverage. However, there are copies. Remeber this was only Apollo 11. There were 5 more landings with plenty of footage. Also any footage take on the moon is still with us.

www.usatoday.com/news/was...-07-16-moon-footage_N.htm

Dr_Tron  posted on  2009-10-20   10:24:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Dr_Tron (#140)

NASA did not lose other Apollo missions' videos because they weren't stored on the type of tape that needed to be reused, Nafzger said.

honestly, you'd think that with all the money NASA had for these missions, they'd have had enough for plenty of clean new tapes. ;)

christine  posted on  2009-10-20   11:49:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#145. To: christine (#143) (Edited)

Do not believe a word Dr.Tron says, he is lying to you. It was indeed the original footage that was lost.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home...e/Article/200806413537349

NASA has lost the original footage of man's first steps on the moon.Neil Armstrong's historic moment was seen by 600 million people in July 1969, but according to NASA the original tapes have been mislaid in their vast archive.

www.rumormillnews.com/cgi....cgi?noframes;read=151652

NASA said Tuesday it was launching an official search for more than 13,000 original tapes of the historic Apollo moon missions. Everything from all 11 missions from launch to splashdown is on the videos. What's missing are the never-before-broadcast clear original videos, not the grainy converted pictures the world watched on television. The tapes aren't lost, says the NASA official in charge of the search. But he doesn't know where they are. The original video, taken directly from the moon and beamed to deep space network observatories in Australia, has never been seen by the general public or even NASA officials

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