That would prove nothing other than the fact that it is possible for man to go to the moon. It would not prove man actually went to the moon in 1969. The recent "lost" original moon footage made me think something is very wrong at NASA. I checked it out further and now I am covinced they faked the whole thing.
#19. To: RickyJ, PaulCJ, christine, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, Lod, all (#5)
Let's go back to the moon and find out.
That would prove nothing other than the fact that it is possible for man to go to the moon. It would not prove man actually went to the moon in 1969. The recent "lost" original moon footage made me think something is very wrong at NASA. I checked it out further and now I am covinced they faked the whole thing.
I think the one possibility that gets overlooked is that both are TRUE
Yes we did go to the Moon.
And Yes some of the video footage released to the public is fake.
But why both?
If they went to the moon why not release the footage taken there and eliminate the possibility that someone would catch on?
It finally hit me why. There was something, or things, which the elites running the show did now want people to see e.g., that there are surface structures, artificial constructed structures, on the moon. This recognition did not occur to me overnight and is the result of lots of little pieces of information that began to come together much as the picture in jigsaw puzzles forms - piece by piece - and you can generally get a good idea of the puzzle picture long before all the pieces are assembled. Some of the details might be yet missing but you know what the picture is about.
The direction that I come from this goes back, again, to my interest in Archaeology and the awareness of what Michael Cremo (co-author of "Forbidden Archaeology") calls the "Knowledge Filter". The way the Knowledge Filter works is that data, evidence, which does not fit the popular, and officially preferred, theories of human origins and the history of civilization, as taught in colleges and universities, is discarded, derided, or ignored.
Then take into account "The Brookings Report" which was generated for NASA back in 1959-1961 which had as one of its key conclusions that the discovery of artifacts from an advanced civilization would be very disruptive to our current society - that knowledge and awareness of such would upset a lot of apple carts and possibly cause an inferiority complex among scientists in particular.
Back in the 1990's Richard Hoagland did a presentation at the U.N. which was videoed, and which I have a copy of, wherein he demonstrated several things:
1. That there appear to be remnants of ancient structures on the moon - verrrrrrry ancient, and he has the photographs (gotten directly from NASA's own archives and through some of his "contacts" at NASA).
2. Some of the photos appear to have been "adjusted" to remove "inconvenient" details.
3. The photos appear to show some very LARGE structures - reminiscent of Paolo Solari's "Arcology" concept - massive structures that are an entire city in one building.
4. NASA has lied, and lied repeatedly, about what they have found and, at the top, acted to bottle up the information and prevent it from becoming public.
So, rhetorical question, if you had structures that you wanted to investigate with the moon landings, but did not want awareness and knowledge of them loose into the public mind, what might you do to accomplish both goals?
Produce phony films purporting to be the moon, for public consumption, while keeping the films of "inconvenient" evidence of a prior civilization hidden. The "why" again goes back to the massive, and pervasive, Psychiatric manipulation of what the general public is allowed to "know" and thus are able to see, think, and talk about. It helps to create the hive-like society being created if people are kept, generally, ignorant and unaware of things which raise questions as to who and what we are, and ultimately may have come from. If you want an ant hive society you don't want the ants questioning the hive.
There is a lot more to this but that's the "thumbnail"
And Yes some of the video footage released to the public is fake.
Considering the pictures we have got through probes and the robots on Mars I don't think anyone really doubts we have got machines there. But getting live people there is a different story and much more difficult considering the raidiation they would have to been subjected to in the very lightly shielded spacecraft and space suits. Alluminum would actually increase the radiation according to experts so it wasn't a shield at all, but rather an amplifier of radiation.
As far as there being structures on the moon. I don't know about that and see no reason for that to be the case. There could be structures there, but I see no evidence of that anywhere. That would be one secret that would be almost impossible to keep even under threat of death. The much more simpler explanation is that they faked the moon landings for M-O-N-E-Y.
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The much more simpler explanation is that they faked the moon landings for M-O-N-E-Y.
What money? These people have all the money they need.
They have as much as they want in the "Black Budget".
No, this is about power and information control to maintain that power.
As well we really do not know what technology is available EXCEPT what we are told is available and by best estimates of those who watch the Black Technology Development what is released for the public to know, at any given time, is at least 20 years behind real capabilities. So, and I think it likely, that those capsules had more radiation shielding than was let on. Doing the entire Moon Program by fraud would have been virtually impossible. Too many really really bright people, and ethical ones, were on the inside. However, a small group could be kept quiet about what was actually up there.
No, what makes more sense is a parallel hidden space program using technology and systems not in the public domain. I think it likely that we had the capability to reach, without rockets, the moon and at least the inner planets out through Mars for at least 20 years if not longer. There are several reasons to suspect that.
The level of funding for the Black Budget - which while a closely guarded number is one that is estimated in the hundreds of billions.
The slip of tongue reported in Aviation Week, made by Senators Jay Rockefeller and Ron Wyden Senators'' Comments Suggest Existence Of Secret Space Program, which revealed the existence of the Black Budget Space Program. The article is still on the website but appears to have been severely "scrubbed" from what was reported in the original but nevertheless the cat was let out of the bag.
Tying into this is the English Hacker who broke into Pentagram files which showed officer transfers and command changes on unknown U.S. Ships. The inference being that this is part of the black program i.e., a secret "Space Navy".
Sightings have been made, all over the U.S., of Triangular craft flying at unreasonalbly slow speeds for their size and shape. This ties to, probably renamed since it leaked, Project Aurora which was the development of advanced "aircraft" which rumors suggest have hypersonic capability as well as possible limited "anti-gravity" systems.
The cryptic, apocryphal, comment attributed to John Northrup (founder of Northrup Aviation) reportedly made at a small side group to a Dinner Party "We have the Stars and they won't let us go". Who the "they" is, is one of the unknowns.
Then factoring in the "Brookings Report", the photographs of apparent structures (which do exist in the NASA PHOTOS and because you personally have not looked at them does not mean they do not exist or have disappeared).
NASA being caught repeatedly manipulating and withholding photographs of the Moon and Mars. Examples would be the contrived color shift on mars photographs, toward the red end of the spetrum, to cover up the existence of plant life on Mars, and to degrade the image of "The Face" (wherein they cut the gray scale and the number of scan lines in the published photos from Mars Surveyor). The "mysterious" silence of key probes, etc., ...
As well is the widespread use of the media to create disinformation, control knowledge flow and dissemination, and to control the public perception via what they are allowed to know, and what you "know" determines what you see (with credit to James Burke).
No, I think labeling the whole moon missions a "hoax" is the fraud and a Red Herring to distract and lead away from what manipulations were actually done and why.