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Title: Were the moon landings faked?
Source: NASA
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK2Fy85VyRg&feature=related
Published: Oct 17, 2009
Author: NASA
Post Date: 2009-10-17 00:54:11 by RickyJ
Keywords: None
Views: 2868
Comments: 171

Watch this video and see if you can tell what is very wrong if this was actually filmed on the moon as NASA says it was.

Hint: It is not the bad dropping, but that is suspect too for supposedly taking place on the moon.

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#42. To: RickyJ (#4)

Yet, you can hear the bag the astronaut is trying to change clear as a bell. This was suppose to be happening on the moon, not Earth.

Flapdoodle. You are hearing artifacts in the audio transmissions.

We went to the Moon. I personally worked with the Apollo folks and know some of the astronauts. IMHO it is a slap in the face to America to deny one of its great achievements.

Here are just a couple of “proofs” we went to the moon:

Extremely directional dish antennas were used for communications. 1/2 power = .04 deg beam width. In other words you had to be pointing directly at the target (landing site) not just the Moon. Also a transponder to bounce a signal from the Earth to the Moon and back giving the appearance of being there would not work as well. There would have been a pesky time delay twice as long (speed of light and distance) as predicted that you could not eliminate. Can’t violate physics. Also other countries monitored the transmissions from the Moon- nuff said.

Anything flown, thrown, or even the dust being kicked up follows perfectly ballistic arcs. This is most evident in the lunar rover videos. You can see the plumes of dust falling in a perfectly ballistic arc. No sound stage could ever fake this. (Nor could we build a vacuum chamber large enough (even today) for the rovers. Again there is that pesky thing called physics that shows everything moving in 1/6 g. We cannot fake that. We can create 1/6th g by controlled falling (i.e.; the Vomit Comet), however, that is a pretty short lived phenomenon before you hit the ground.

Dr_Tron  posted on  2009-10-17   16:05:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Eric Stratton (#33)

How come not one picture, not one, of them reassembling the damn thing once they got up there? They seemed to have felt that all kinds of other trivial sh!t was important enough to photograph, but none of that.

They did:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=q- M5r2OKPNk

Dr_Tron  posted on  2009-10-17   16:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Dr_Tron (#42)

Was that an original post by your own resources?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-17   16:10:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Eric Stratton (#29)

The only people believing this are the sheople and the America-Uber-Alles crowd.

Ummm... No. Everything you see is consistent with a lunar landing. We went to the Moon in 1969-72. I lament the fact we have not been back since. :-(

Dr_Tron  posted on  2009-10-17   16:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: buckeroo (#44) (Edited)

Was that an original post by your own resources?

Yea. If I cut and paste I will quote and source the original - anything else is plagiarism.

Good to see you. :-)

Dr_Tron  posted on  2009-10-17   16:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: buckeroo, all (#44)

Let's add this to the mix -

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-10-17   16:18:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Dr_Tron (#46)

Yea. If I cut and paste I will quote and source the original.

Too kewl. You have an arsenal of awesome some personal time on this web-chat forum. I want to be the first to say, thank_you ... you are a breath of fresh-aire.

Keep kicking ass.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-17   16:21:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: buckeroo (#48)

Too kewl. You have an arsenal of awesome some personal time on this web-chat forum. I want to be the first to say, thank_you ... you are a breath of fresh-aire.

You are being way to kind. I just wish I had more time to post. A little background:

I have worked with either the military or the American space program (I float between em) closing in on 40 years now - GACK getting old!!. Went to school, worked with NASA then served 12 years active duty (USAF) in the 70s, returned to NASA, completed graduate school, went back to the DoD after 9/11 - felt like the right thing to do even though it was a pay cut. Now I am a guest professor teaching astrophysics at a major university while still working for the DoD (USAF Space Command).

Dr_Tron  posted on  2009-10-17   16:31:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Dr_Tron (#49)

Ever hear about that nasty guy, "Mr.Root" ... I am not that person.... I swaer.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-17   16:59:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: buckeroo (#50)

Ever hear about that nasty guy, "Mr.Root"

Senior moment here. Scratching head in vain - who is Mr Root? LOLOLOL!

Dr_Tron  posted on  2009-10-17   17:04:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: RickyJ (#0)

Fascinating thread. I was employed by NASA right out of college, worked at the Manned Space Center in Texas.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-10-17   17:04:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Dr_Tron (#51)

You could just click on my nick to understand all my own dialog.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-17   17:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: buckeroo (#53)

You could just click on my nick to understand all my own dialog.

Gads, I didn't even think of that. Another senior moment. Gack!

Grins - I get it now. LOL!

Dr_Tron  posted on  2009-10-17   17:09:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: tom007 (#52)

I was employed by NASA right out of college, worked at the Manned Space Center in Texas

Sweet! I was at the Cape and JPL. Did only TDYs to JSC.

Dr_Tron  posted on  2009-10-17   17:10:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Dr_Tron (#55)

JPL .... WOW, now I think that would have quite interesting.

I stayed at NASA for about a year, was dismayed by the waste of most of it, at least what I saw in building 1, and left to work for Conoco.

I have no doubt, from what I did see there, that the US got mooned.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-10-17   17:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Dr_Tron (#54)

America is far more worthy than a government pushing wars around the world based upon our historical foundations. Meanwhile, we have incredible god-damned contemporaneous, mother-fuckers in government attempting to use Americans as some sort of political gossip concerning the CORE, called the US Constitution about our PERSONAL rights and freedoms.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-17   17:20:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: buckeroo (#57)

Agree totally. I am appalled at this administration. Carter redux X10. 3 (possibly 7) more years of this is very very scary.

Dr_Tron  posted on  2009-10-17   17:26:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: tom007 (#56)

stayed at NASA for about a year, was dismayed by the waste of most of it, at least what I saw in building 1

I understand totally. :-(

Dr_Tron  posted on  2009-10-17   17:28:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Dr_Tron (#58)

What happened to America? Tell this Internet chat channel your perspective. Don't hold back......

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-17   17:32:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Original_Intent, all (#19)

Honestly, all this is too much for me today.

I like your perspective and your answer(s), OI.

Interesting thread.

I keep an open mind and hope to never stop questioning.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-17   18:17:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: wudidiz (#61)

I like your perspective and your answer(s), OI.

Oh sure.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-17   18:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: buckeroo (#62)

There are great benefits and advantages to being reasonable, sensible, inquisitive and open-minded, my friend.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-17   21:59:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: wudidiz, Original_Intent (#63)

There are great benefits and advantages to being reasonable, sensible, inquisitive and open-minded

And just how does your comment apply to Mr. Original_Intent? Isn't he the guy that sez something about the moon landings being faked?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-17   22:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Dr_Tron (#45)

Ummm... No. Everything you see is consistent with a lunar landing.

No it isn't Dr. Tron.

Care to explain how we can hear the bag being rustled but can't hear the thrusters of the lunar landing module? Which do you think produced more vibrations for the space suits of the astronauts? I am not surprised you say you worked for NASA and claim we went to the moon. What else would a person from NASA do? Tell the truth? LOL!

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-10-17   22:48:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Original_Intent (#35)

So, and I think it likely, that those capsules had more radiation shielding than was let on. Doing the entire Moon Program by fraud would have been virtually impossible. Too many really really bright people, and ethical ones, were on the inside.

And they shut up pretty quick when Grissom and other astronauts critical of NASA and their claim of working toward getting a man on the moon were killed in "accidents".

Good people can be intimidated by fear of death and loved ones to keep quiet. This is how the elite have kept secrets for decades, they control the press and kill those who reveal the truth after they riducule them as crack pots in the press and tarnish their reputations.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-10-17   23:04:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Dr_Tron (#42) (Edited)

Flapdoodle. You are hearing artifacts in the audio transmissions.

Flapdoodle? LOL!

Yeah, must be artifacts in the transmissions, how else could NASA exaplain it? Tell the truth. LOL!

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-10-17   23:11:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Dr_Tron (#42)

Can’t violate physics

No you can't. So why do you lie about the bag not producing the noise when it is clear that is exactly what is happening. Admit the truth, it will do you good. Why live a lie for the rest of your life?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-10-17   23:18:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Original_Intent (#35)

You think the USA governemnt, CIA, Mossad can create such advanced space ships and yet can't even properly carry out a false flag like 9/11? I highly doubt it. They are supremely imcompetent, their only power is fear through intmidation and assainations. Once the "little" people lose their fear of them, their time will be up. Education is the only way. It won't be easy to reverse a lifetime of propaganda and brainwashing in enough people, but it is the only hope to stop them.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-10-17   23:32:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: christine (#40)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-10-17   23:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Dr_Tron (#43)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-10-17   23:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Dr_Tron (#45)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-10-17   23:41:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: buckeroo (#64)

There are great benefits and advantages to being reasonable, sensible, inquisitive and open-minded

And just how does your comment apply to Mr. Original_Intent?

He is those things.

Isn't he the guy that sez something about the moon landings being faked?

Something close to that.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-18   0:02:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: buckeroo, wudidiz, Original_Intent (#73)

Isn't he the guy that sez something about the moon landings being faked?

I believe that what he said was that the landings were real but some of the supporting material had been faked.


"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-18   0:07:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: farmfriend (#74)

Oh. Just because of his "considered opinion" 'eh?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-18   0:13:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: buckeroo (#75)

Oh. Just because of his "considered opinion" 'eh?

I find OI to be very well read and informed.


"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-18   0:15:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: farmfriend (#76)

Yeah, but outside of his suggestions for and about his own "considered opinions" ... where are those opinions beyond a post stating his own considered opinions? Isn't that a bit like a circle jerk?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-18   0:19:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: buckeroo (#77)

Isn't that a bit like a circle jerk?

Sounds like fun.


"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-18   0:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: farmfriend (#78)

I have way too much fun on this forum. The intellectual acumen and political alias and silly dogma run wild!

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-18   0:27:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: buckeroo (#79)

LOL

OI has done a lot of research into banned archeology. I'm not sure I agree with his ideas on monuments on the moon etc but I don't discount it out of hand either. I have too much respect for him and his IQ to do that plus it is just too plausible.


"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-18   0:28:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: farmfriend, Original_Intent (#80)

I have too much respect for him and his IQ to do that plus it is just too plausible.

Are you saying his "considered opinion" is inarguable?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-18   0:41:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: christine, Eric Stratton (#40)

doncha believe it? all that footage was lost. ;)

they must have left all those rolls of film they shot in the glove box.


The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.

IRTorqued  posted on  2009-10-18   0:47:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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