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Title: Were the moon landings faked?
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK2Fy85VyRg&feature=related
Published: Oct 17, 2009
Author: NASA
Post Date: 2009-10-17 00:54:11 by RickyJ
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Views: 2934
Comments: 171
Watch this video and see if you can tell what is very wrong if this was actually filmed on the moon as NASA says it was. Hint: It is not the bad dropping, but that is suspect too for supposedly taking place on the moon.
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#109. To: RickyJ (#108)
You are saying this to a working scientist in his own field with over 30 years of experience. Something a friend of mine used to post comes to mind. You fit this bill in total. ______________________________ "In the history of the world, only a tiny fraction of all the people who ever lived have had the opportunity to ask highly qualified scientists direct questions, and learn from their wisdom. Happily, because of the internet, it was possible for people from all walks of life to converse directly with all sorts of scientific experts; we have had physicists, microbiologists, mathematicians, astronomers, and chemists, to specify but a few, roaming these threads, and eager to explain what they know and how they know it to virtually anyone willing to ask an intelligent question. But there is another segment of people on these threads who, instead of asking these learned folks intelligent questions and thus expanding their knowledge and understanding, insist instead upon bludgeoning them with their ignorance, and questioning the patriotism, honesty, and intellect of people who have dedicated their lives to the pursuit of scientific knowledge. I submit that such people are not here to learn anything, but are in fact interested in quite the opposite. I submit they are here to interfere with the dissemination of scientific knowledge that they find offensive. They don't want other people to ask the experts questions and learn from them; no, they are here to attack the experts and cast doubt upon their wisdom, in the desperate hope that others will turn away and not listen to them. IMHO that is why the same people show up over and over again parroting the same refuted diatribes and misinformation, and spewing the same bogus out-of-context quotes designed specifically to disrupt the dissemination of scientific knowledge. That's why the same people show up over and over again misrepresenting what scientific theories and laws are, despite having had it explained to them 1720th time; they are here to instill confusion and spread their ignorance, not to disseminate knowledge. The experts [who were once] here on these threads ought to be revered and thanked for sharing with us their insights and explanations of the natural world around us; instead scorn is heaped upon them and their knowledge by the belligerently ignorant. I submit that these purveyors of unknowledge should be treated for the intellectual disruptors that they are. They stare stared the best opportunity any of us will ever have to gain more insight and understanding in the eye, and spit spat in the faces of those who offer and have the knowledge to help make that a reality. Behold, I give you the belligerently ignorant, the intellectual Luddites of our time. Know them for the anti-knowledge disruptors they are." _______________________________________ Don't call me a liar again. Doc
Hi Rick, It may be as you say. It may not. I have seen a lot of "evidence" that is easily explained by not so common knowledge of space physics, which I am not an expert in in any means, but do have a little understanding of. I have looked at all the contrary evidence against a moon landing and have found the physics wanting. The US put a number of men on the moon, it was a huge acheviment, so far a nearly worthless endeavor but a huge Hoo Haa for the US.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Doc I agree. Call me confused, ill informed, crazy, but Liar implies intentional misinformation. And this is incorrect.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Revered???? Really??? Only a fool would espouse such.
My friend said it I didn't. I do not want to be revered. But the general gist of the post spelling out what a fool RickyJ is is still spot on IMHO.
Scientists in general (many - not all) have lied (intentionally) or been dishonest about countless things. Independant critical thinkers are wise to this and much credibility has been lost on the part of Scientists. This is not the fault of the independant thinkers in general. I'd write more, but I think you get the gist.
You are not talking to one of those.
Then you have a friend that is a fool. Only a weak and insecure person would ever consider such, weak physically, spiritually, intellectually and or morally. Respect can be earned by anyone, reverence is for fools. re·vere 1 (r-vîr) tr.v. re·vered, re·ver·ing, re·veres To regard with awe, deference, and devotion.
Not the ones I deal with daily. Most are dedicated to finding answers and furthering man's knowledge.
Not a fool, just passionate. He is very bright (rocket science bright BTW) and is one fine human being. Unfortunately this discussion has shifted from my post to my friend.
Passionate??? I would disagree. Any human looking for anything beyond earned respect has a character flaw, likewise any human revering another human has a character flaw. The lesser man is the one that reveres. Fear, love, hate and respect are totally normal human traits, inherent to all of us, reverence is not, it is the result of ones own weakness, whether giving or desiring.
I am not going to continue to argue for or against someone who is not here. However, my post stands on its own merit. You can nitpick a single word out of it all you want but the general gist is still valid.
You are not talking to one of those. I'll take your word for it. Nothing personal to Dr. Tron, but there seems to be at least one anomaly with the moon landing. What about Global warming for instance? Nasa has some things to say about that. Does Dr. Tron concur with Nasa about global warming?
Why did the hammer and feather take twice as long to hit the deck as the bag that fell in the first vid? And from approx the same height?
Your entire post is carried by one word...revere... On it lies your entire argument foundation. The word revere has always been known for its negative connotation, one of human weakness, another is the word idolize, again not a human trait. Seekers of such, fortunately are few, givers are legion. Earned respect, voluntarily given is one thing, universal respect for a title, position etc is yet another human failing. One does his best, accepts what is given, to go forth seeking is shameful.
Global warming is occurring. The cause OTOH is the sticky wicket. There are natural cyclical variations in the Earth's mean temperature over long periods of time. Will we see another ice age? IMHO, absolutely; in our lifetimes - nope. Is global warming the dire threat looming over us and assuring that we are doomed? Again IMHO (and this is a layman’s view - I am not nor have ever been a climate scientist) we are not. Over my slightly less than 60 odd years of existing on this planet, I have seen many predictions of looming disasters. E.g., Y2K, nuclear war, overpopulation, mass starvation, meteors, comets, cats and dogs sleeping together, etc. Is global warming an issue we need to look at rationally? - Yes. Run around like Chicken Little? -No.
I looked at both vids very carefully. "G" appears to be the same for both events. One had already accelerated by the time we started counting (i.e. bounced out. And the other accelerated from a standstill. slow the vids down and look at the two falls. You will see what I am saying.
I will be off for a while. Feel free to hammer me in the meantime. ;-)
"Scientists" have even lied about being scientists to make a buck. You will find money is more important to many so-called scientists than the truth. Of course in many professions it is the same way. The buck means more than integrity to most. NASA is a joke, they killed Grissom, a true astronaut and lover of science, not a actor like Armstrong and the rest that claimed to land on the moon, just to make money. More and more are realizing the NASA landings on the moon were faked. You just don't lose original footage of such an event. You copy the heck out of it and store the originals in a fort knox type facility. They were on Earth, where I don't know and don't care. The bag gave them away 100%.
God is always good!
Thank you.
Doc The truth hurts doesn't it. It shouldn't for you though, because you tend to ignore it when there is no money in it for you. You are a pitiful little NASA apologist that lies for a few peunuts they cast your way. You are lowest of the low, a defender of the elite for practically nothing. Even the elite laugh at you.
God is always good!
Yeah, I don't know. It's hard to for me to put a finger on it. Hard to ascertain what to believe about the moon landing at this point. Makes my brain hurt.
that's my feeling at this point. the loss of the "original" film is very, very, very suspicious. does anyone know if there is film showing the lunar module reconnecting to the mothership to get the astronauts back to earth?
"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency Bill."--Charles Lindbergh, Sr.
I believe they did it (the hoax) to beat the Russians-demoralize them. In terms of keeping it secret really no problem because the astronuts were all ex servicemen officers. Handpicked men who would keep a secret because of national security. These men were the cream of the crop...men with excpetional ideals. The stealth fighter was being assembled in the late 70's and not announced to the public until the early 1990's. How did they keep all those 1000's of citizen assembly line workers quiet??? If the US came out now and said the moon landing was fake the credibility of our gov't would be nill--might actually start a revolution within the country. Hence the Nasa comment that we will not be able to go back to the moon for another 15-20 years. My opinion on the moon landing?? 65-70% we went there. 30-35% I have some doubt- not sure.I was at 100% at one time but seeing what my gov't can do or would do makes me unsure at this point.
I don't, but am interested to see it. Any suggestions where I could look for it?
I doubt it. People don't care about the moon landings like NASA hoped they would. Even when they were faking them people grew bored with them. Not too many would give a crap if it was all faked. Our popualce has been succefully dumbed down to be more interested in the latest rap songs and video games to even notice or care about the non-stop lies that are being fed to them on a daily basis.
God is always good!
That and many other points the so-called "moonbats" made in the past got me to look at it again. I really didn't want to believe NASA made this up, but I wanted to know if there was any concrete proof out there that they faked to moon landings and now I know there is. You can't hear a bag being shaked and rustled with only gloves and a space suit to do the transmission of the vibrations. If that were the case then we should have heard the lunar lander's thrusters on desent, but they were consicuposly silent. NASA says it's becasue the moon has no atmosphere, that's why we didn't hear it. So they can't now claim we heard a bad being rusteled with only goloves to do the transmission. You need a atmosphere for sound waves to propagate. They don't transmit through thick material like the astronats were wearing very well. Many spelling errors I know, but I hope you can understand what I am trying to say here.
God is always good!
I agree. Call me confused, ill informed, crazy, but Liar implies intentional misinformation. And this is incorrect Oh, it is definitely not incorrect when said about "Dr. Tron". He has the same MO of the 911 government stooges. Exactly the same. You can believe what he says about something just as much as you can believe the devil about God. I don't know where the government finds these people. I suspect many are not even Americans.
God is always good!
Good morning pip-squeak. Still brain impaired I see. Care to attempt to refute my arguments about antenna beam width and ballistic arcs upthread? Will be quite humorous to see you try.
Well Rick, I disagree, but how the hell NASA could have lost the most valuable film footage is beyond me.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" I am moving up in the world. Grins. First is was just a liar, now I am the devil incarnate. You OTOH are a fool. Instead of asking questions you just ridicule what you cannot hope to understand.
Thanks for the support. It actually means a lot to me. It is shocking how much hate RickyJ has for me. Oh well, can't please everyone. Remember what was lost was a video tape of the TV coverage. However, there are copies. Remeber this was only Apollo 11. There were 5 more landings with plenty of footage. Also any footage take on the moon is still with us.
It was just the video feed from Apollo 11. see my above post. There were 5 other landings. Here ya go on the docking after ascent from the lunar surface.
ah, ok. i wasn't aware of that.
"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency Bill."--Charles Lindbergh, Sr.
honestly, you'd think that with all the money NASA had for these missions, they'd have had enough for plenty of clean new tapes. ;)
"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency Bill."--Charles Lindbergh, Sr.
You are a piece of living shit and will burn in hell forever. Enjoy your pitiful little life dude, it's all you got!
God is always good!
Do not believe a word Dr.Tron says, he is lying to you. It was indeed the original footage that was lost. http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home...e/Article/200806413537349 NASA has lost the original footage of man's first steps on the moon.Neil Armstrong's historic moment was seen by 600 million people in July 1969, but according to NASA the original tapes have been mislaid in their vast archive. www.rumormillnews.com/cgi....cgi?noframes;read=151652 NASA said Tuesday it was launching an official search for more than 13,000 original tapes of the historic Apollo moon missions. Everything from all 11 missions from launch to splashdown is on the videos. What's missing are the never-before-broadcast clear original videos, not the grainy converted pictures the world watched on television. The tapes aren't lost, says the NASA official in charge of the search. But he doesn't know where they are. The original video, taken directly from the moon and beamed to deep space network observatories in Australia, has never been seen by the general public or even NASA officials
God is always good!
"Hundreds of military and government witnesses have gone on record claiming a major cover-up around UFOs" It's UFOs now? ROTFLMAO Again, they are the original tapes of "TV" transmitted back to Earth. The real science was not the TV vids BTW. And indeed I have personally degaussed original raw telemetry wideband mag tape to be used over again.
I didn't think you had the nads to try and refute my arguments. And I was correct. BTW, doesn't your bible say "do not judge lest ye be judged"?
OK, I posted this video because it finally woke me up that NASA never went to the moon. I am kind of dumbfounded that no one here seems to think it is that big of a deal that this bag is supposedly producing sound waves in a no atmosphere environment relative to Earth. To me this is MAJOR evidence that the moon landings were faked. I thought it would be for many others here too, but I guess I was wrong. Not wrong about the moon landings being faked or this being MAJOR concrete evidence that the moon landings were fake, but wrong that the current posters here would think the same.
God is always good!
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestNo, it is you who hate science because it exposes your lies. Science is not about lies dude. You know nothing about science, you just know how to lie.
#110. To: RickyJ (#108)
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#111. To: Dr_Tron (#109)
Don't call me a liar again.
#112. To: Dr_Tron (#109)
The experts [who were once] here on these threads ought to be revered
#113. To: Cynicom (#112)
Only a fool would espouse such.
#114. To: Dr_Tron, Original_Intent, Cynicom, Tom007, RIckyJ, christine, Itistoolate, all (#109)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#115. To: wudidiz (#114)
Scientists in general (many - not all) have lied (intentionally) or been dishonest about countless things.
"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791
#116. To: Dr_Tron (#113)
My friend said it I didn't. I do not want to be revered.
#117. To: wudidiz (#114)
Scientists in general (many - not all) have lied (intentionally) or been dishonest about countless things.
#118. To: Cynicom (#116)
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Then you have a friend that is a fool.
#119. To: Dr_Tron (#118)
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Not a fool, just passionate.
#120. To: Cynicom (#119)
Fear, love, hate and respect are totally normal human traits, inherent to all of us, reverence is not, it is the result of ones own weakness, whether giving or desiring.
#121. To: farmfriend, Dr. Tron (#115)
Scientists in general (many - not all) have lied (intentionally) or been dishonest about countless things.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#122. To: Dr. Tron, All (#121)
...there seems to be at least one anomaly with the moon landing.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#123. To: Dr_Tron (#120)
You can nitpick a single word out of it all you want but the general gist is still valid.
#124. To: wudidiz (#121)
What about Global warming for instance? Nasa has some things to say about that.
#125. To: wudidiz (#122)
Why did the hammer and feather take twice as long to hit the deck as the bag that fell in the first vid? And from approx the same height?
#126. To: All (#125)
#127. To: wudidiz (#114)
Scientists in general (many - not all) have lied (intentionally) or been dishonest about countless things.
#128. To: Dr_Tron (#126)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#129. To: Dr_Tron (#109)
Don't call me a liar again.
#130. To: RickyJ (#127)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#131. To: wudidiz, Dr. Tron, RickyJ (#130)
Yeah, I don't know. It's hard to for me to put a finger on it. Hard to ascertain what to believe about the moon landing at this point. Makes my brain hurt.
#132. To: buckeroo, original intent (#37)
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What aim does the US government have in fooling the people about the space program?
#133. To: christine (#131)
does anyone know if there is film showing the lunar module reconnecting to the mothership to get the astronauts back to earth?
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#134. To: belmontconservative (#132)
If the US came out now and said the moon landing was fake the credibility of our gov't would be nill--might actually start a revolution within the country.
#135. To: christine (#131)
that's my feeling at this point. the loss of the "original" film is very, very, very suspicious.
#136. To: tom007 (#111)
Don't call me a liar again. Doc
#137. To: RickyJ (#129)
You are a pitiful little NASA apologist that lies for a few peunuts they cast your way.
#138. To: RickyJ (#136)
#139. To: RickyJ (#136)
You can believe what he says about something just as much as you can believe the devil about God
#140. To: tom007 (#138)
Well Rick, I disagree
#141. To: christine (#131)
the loss of the "original" film is very, very, very suspicious
#142. To: Dr_Tron (#140)
Remember what was lost was a video tape of the TV coverage.
#143. To: Dr_Tron (#140)
NASA did not lose other Apollo missions' videos because they weren't stored on the type of tape that needed to be reused, Nafzger said.
#144. To: Dr_Tron (#137)
#145. To: christine (#143)
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#146. To: RickyJ (#145)
From your link:
#147. To: RickyJ (#144)
You are a piece of living shit and will burn in hell forever. Enjoy your pitiful little life dude, it's all you got!
#148. To: All (#0)
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