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Title: Were the moon landings faked?
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NASA
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK2Fy85VyRg&feature=related
Published: Oct 17, 2009
Author: NASA
Post Date: 2009-10-17 00:54:11 by RickyJ
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Views: 2931
Comments: 171
Watch this video and see if you can tell what is very wrong if this was actually filmed on the moon as NASA says it was. Hint: It is not the bad dropping, but that is suspect too for supposedly taking place on the moon.
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#21. To: Original_Intent (#19)
You are a nut_case.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
What I don't understand is we first went to the moon in 9 years...now Nasa say's it will be 15-20 years before we can go back?? Heck all the R&D is done why so long?? Heck dust off the old Saturn 5 blueprints and just build another and throw some new computers on it and go. Not only that - we HAD other Saturn V components that could have been assembled into further missions - they were destroyed. The short answer, along with my reasoning why I believe it to be the case, is that someone (or one's): A. Do NOT want us venturing back to the moon. B. We have already been back via the "Black Space Program" of which little tiny snippets have leaked to suggest very strongly that one exists. Again it goes back to controlling information and thus controlling what people think or can even think about. As I have commented before the scale of the mind/information control in our current society is simply beyond comprehension for most people - they have been conditioned not to look, ask, or question. This particularly so among those under 40. The control of the schools, and there curriculum, was really only cemented into place in the early to mid 70's. Going back to other pieces in the puzzle - it is likely that we have had the means to reach the moon, and very likely Mars and the outer planets, since the late 70's. Again it is conjecture based on little snippets I've picked up over time so if asked to prove the conclusion I cannot, but I can justify it.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
You are a nut_case. Because someone ventures an opinion, based on evidence, with which you disagree does not make them a "nut case". It does suggest though that you are a thoroughly mind controlled robot incapable of sifting through the evidence and thinking for yourself. GOOD BOY! Nowwwwwww - Speak! Roll over boy! Atsa a good boy.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
That comment isn't an opinion .... that is an authoritive pile of BS and you know it. And, you can't prove your own "opinion."
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
The moon landing was as real as Jim Traficant's hair.
And Yes some of the video footage released to the public is fake. Considering the pictures we have got through probes and the robots on Mars I don't think anyone really doubts we have got machines there. But getting live people there is a different story and much more difficult considering the raidiation they would have to been subjected to in the very lightly shielded spacecraft and space suits. Alluminum would actually increase the radiation according to experts so it wasn't a shield at all, but rather an amplifier of radiation. As far as there being structures on the moon. I don't know about that and see no reason for that to be the case. There could be structures there, but I see no evidence of that anywhere. That would be one secret that would be almost impossible to keep even under threat of death. The much more simpler explanation is that they faked the moon landings for M-O-N-E-Y.
God is always good!
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Another nut_case on the forum. Amen- Buckeroo “Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Obviously didn't happen.
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It's all "political". These kind of "fabricated" events are "fabricated" by incumbant politicians in an effort to get 'em re-elected.
What money? These people have all the money they need. They have as much as they want in the "Black Budget". No, this is about power and information control to maintain that power. As well we really do not know what technology is available EXCEPT what we are told is available and by best estimates of those who watch the Black Technology Development what is released for the public to know, at any given time, is at least 20 years behind real capabilities. So, and I think it likely, that those capsules had more radiation shielding than was let on. Doing the entire Moon Program by fraud would have been virtually impossible. Too many really really bright people, and ethical ones, were on the inside. However, a small group could be kept quiet about what was actually up there. No, what makes more sense is a parallel hidden space program using technology and systems not in the public domain. I think it likely that we had the capability to reach, without rockets, the moon and at least the inner planets out through Mars for at least 20 years if not longer. There are several reasons to suspect that. The level of funding for the Black Budget - which while a closely guarded number is one that is estimated in the hundreds of billions. The slip of tongue reported in Aviation Week, made by Senators Jay Rockefeller and Ron Wyden Senators'' Comments Suggest Existence Of Secret Space Program, which revealed the existence of the Black Budget Space Program. The article is still on the website but appears to have been severely "scrubbed" from what was reported in the original but nevertheless the cat was let out of the bag. Tying into this is the English Hacker who broke into Pentagram files which showed officer transfers and command changes on unknown U.S. Ships. The inference being that this is part of the black program i.e., a secret "Space Navy". Sightings have been made, all over the U.S., of Triangular craft flying at unreasonalbly slow speeds for their size and shape. This ties to, probably renamed since it leaked, Project Aurora which was the development of advanced "aircraft" which rumors suggest have hypersonic capability as well as possible limited "anti-gravity" systems. The cryptic, apocryphal, comment attributed to John Northrup (founder of Northrup Aviation) reportedly made at a small side group to a Dinner Party "We have the Stars and they won't let us go". Who the "they" is, is one of the unknowns. Then factoring in the "Brookings Report", the photographs of apparent structures (which do exist in the NASA PHOTOS and because you personally have not looked at them does not mean they do not exist or have disappeared). NASA being caught repeatedly manipulating and withholding photographs of the Moon and Mars. Examples would be the contrived color shift on mars photographs, toward the red end of the spetrum, to cover up the existence of plant life on Mars, and to degrade the image of "The Face" (wherein they cut the gray scale and the number of scan lines in the published photos from Mars Surveyor). The "mysterious" silence of key probes, etc., ... As well is the widespread use of the media to create disinformation, control knowledge flow and dissemination, and to control the public perception via what they are allowed to know, and what you "know" determines what you see (with credit to James Burke). No, I think labeling the whole moon missions a "hoax" is the fraud and a Red Herring to distract and lead away from what manipulations were actually done and why.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
That comment isn't an opinion .... that is an authoritive pile of BS and you know it. And, you can't prove your own "opinion." Yes, it is my opinion, my considered opinion formed over the last 20 years of following the operations of government, and how they really operate, and to what ends. By controlling what people know, dumbing down the schools, and generally disabling large segments of the population via drugs, both legal and illegal, the populace from their psychotic point of view is kept under control. You're a great example of it. You think the approved thoughts within the designated box. Polly want a cracker? Congratulations.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
What aim does the US government have in fooling the people about the space program? Can you lay any claim ... outside of your "considered opinion" that the US government in concert with NASA and BILLIONS of dollars transferred to private industry can pull a hoax off of this magnitude? The US government doesn't have enough brains or wherewithal to perform the talent you profess. But you have enough brains so suggest that the US government does. How about that, nut_case.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Oh c'mon. Everyone knows the moon is made from green cheese and the aliens abducted all the astronauts before they even left the Earth's orbit. Gee Whiz..... get a life as opposed to arguing about something that you can't substantiate or support by rational debate from a passionate perspective or factual content.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Also, did you note the rate of speed at which the bag dropped to the ground. That looked like earth gravity, not moon gravity.
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doncha believe it? all that footage was lost. ;)
"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency Bill."--Charles Lindbergh, Sr.
ROTFL ... Didn't you notice the moonwalkers hoping and skipping and jumping as though they were on romper room?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Flapdoodle. You are hearing artifacts in the audio transmissions. We went to the Moon. I personally worked with the Apollo folks and know some of the astronauts. IMHO it is a slap in the face to America to deny one of its great achievements. Here are just a couple of “proofs” we went to the moon: Extremely directional dish antennas were used for communications. 1/2 power = .04 deg beam width. In other words you had to be pointing directly at the target (landing site) not just the Moon. Also a transponder to bounce a signal from the Earth to the Moon and back giving the appearance of being there would not work as well. There would have been a pesky time delay twice as long (speed of light and distance) as predicted that you could not eliminate. Can’t violate physics. Also other countries monitored the transmissions from the Moon- nuff said. Anything flown, thrown, or even the dust being kicked up follows perfectly ballistic arcs. This is most evident in the lunar rover videos. You can see the plumes of dust falling in a perfectly ballistic arc. No sound stage could ever fake this. (Nor could we build a vacuum chamber large enough (even today) for the rovers. Again there is that pesky thing called physics that shows everything moving in 1/6 g. We cannot fake that. We can create 1/6th g by controlled falling (i.e.; the Vomit Comet), however, that is a pretty short lived phenomenon before you hit the ground.
They did:
Was that an original post by your own resources?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Ummm... No. Everything you see is consistent with a lunar landing. We went to the Moon in 1969-72. I lament the fact we have not been back since. :-(
Yea. If I cut and paste I will quote and source the original - anything else is plagiarism. Good to see you. :-)
Too kewl. You have an arsenal of awesome some personal time on this web-chat forum. I want to be the first to say, thank_you ... you are a breath of fresh-aire. Keep kicking ass.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
You are being way to kind. I just wish I had more time to post. A little background: I have worked with either the military or the American space program (I float between em) closing in on 40 years now - GACK getting old!!. Went to school, worked with NASA then served 12 years active duty (USAF) in the 70s, returned to NASA, completed graduate school, went back to the DoD after 9/11 - felt like the right thing to do even though it was a pay cut. Now I am a guest professor teaching astrophysics at a major university while still working for the DoD (USAF Space Command).
Ever hear about that nasty guy, "Mr.Root" ... I am not that person.... I swaer.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Senior moment here. Scratching head in vain - who is Mr Root? LOLOLOL!
Fascinating thread. I was employed by NASA right out of college, worked at the Manned Space Center in Texas.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" You could just click on my nick to understand all my own dialog.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Gads, I didn't even think of that. Another senior moment. Gack! Grins - I get it now. LOL!
Sweet! I was at the Cape and JPL. Did only TDYs to JSC.
JPL .... WOW, now I think that would have quite interesting. I stayed at NASA for about a year, was dismayed by the waste of most of it, at least what I saw in building 1, and left to work for Conoco. I have no doubt, from what I did see there, that the US got mooned.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" America is far more worthy than a government pushing wars around the world based upon our historical foundations. Meanwhile, we have incredible god-damned contemporaneous, mother-fuckers in government attempting to use Americans as some sort of political gossip concerning the CORE, called the US Constitution about our PERSONAL rights and freedoms.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Agree totally. I am appalled at this administration. Carter redux X10. 3 (possibly 7) more years of this is very very scary.
I understand totally. :-(
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“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestAnd Yes some of the video footage released to the public is fake.
#22. To: belmontconservative, Critter (#10)
This video convinces me more that they were indeed on the moon.
#23. To: buckeroo (#21)
And Yes some of the video footage released to the public is fake.
#24. To: Original_Intent (#23)
And Yes some of the video footage released to the public is fake.
#25. To: RickyJ (#0)
#26. To: Original_Intent (#19)
Yes we did go to the Moon.
#27. To: PaulCJ (#2)
#28. To: RickyJ (#5)
#29. To: wbales (#6)
#30. To: Eric Stratton (#27)
There are more inconsistencies with the moon landings than there are for 9/11.
Dear GOD - Please give me strength to kick the asses of teenie-tiny-butt-wipers on the Internet.
#31. To: Eric Stratton (#29)
was obviously not real
#32. To: buckeroo (#30)
#33. To: sizzlerguy (#31)
#34. To: Eric Stratton (#33)
FedGov
#35. To: RickyJ, PaulCJ, christine, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, Critter, Lod, randge, all (#26)
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The much more simpler explanation is that they faked the moon landings for M-O-N-E-Y.
#36. To: buckeroo (#24)
And Yes some of the video footage released to the public is fake.
#37. To: Original_Intent (#36)
Polly want a cracker?
#38. To: Eric Stratton (#32)
If brains were dynamite, you wouldn't have enough to blow your nose.
#39. To: RickyJ (#4)
Notice, you don't even hear them breathing, so hearing a bag in a vaccum by only touching it with your gloves would be impossible.
#40. To: Eric Stratton (#33)
For example, where'd they keep that car?
#41. To: Arator (#39)
That looked like earth gravity, not moon gravity.
#42. To: RickyJ (#4)
Yet, you can hear the bag the astronaut is trying to change clear as a bell. This was suppose to be happening on the moon, not Earth.
#43. To: Eric Stratton (#33)
How come not one picture, not one, of them reassembling the damn thing once they got up there? They seemed to have felt that all kinds of other trivial sh!t was important enough to photograph, but none of that.
#44. To: Dr_Tron (#42)
#45. To: Eric Stratton (#29)
The only people believing this are the sheople and the America-Uber-Alles crowd.
#46. To: buckeroo (#44)
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Was that an original post by your own resources?
#47. To: buckeroo, all (#44)
Let's add this to the mix -
#48. To: Dr_Tron (#46)
Yea. If I cut and paste I will quote and source the original.
#49. To: buckeroo (#48)
Too kewl. You have an arsenal of awesome some personal time on this web-chat forum. I want to be the first to say, thank_you ... you are a breath of fresh-aire.
#50. To: Dr_Tron (#49)
#51. To: buckeroo (#50)
Ever hear about that nasty guy, "Mr.Root"
#52. To: RickyJ (#0)
#53. To: Dr_Tron (#51)
#54. To: buckeroo (#53)
You could just click on my nick to understand all my own dialog.
#55. To: tom007 (#52)
I was employed by NASA right out of college, worked at the Manned Space Center in Texas
#56. To: Dr_Tron (#55)
#57. To: Dr_Tron (#54)
#58. To: buckeroo (#57)
#59. To: tom007 (#56)
stayed at NASA for about a year, was dismayed by the waste of most of it, at least what I saw in building 1
#60. To: Dr_Tron (#58)
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