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Title: High-Fructose Corn Syrup Produces Toxic Chemical “HMF” When Heated
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URL Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/high-fr ... -chemical-hmf-when-heated.html
Published: Oct 20, 2009
Author: Mike Adams
Post Date: 2009-10-20 17:30:55 by Horse
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Views: 435
Comments: 38
If you know anything about the food supply, you know that honey bees are a crucial part of the food production chain. In the United States, they pollinate roughly one-third of all the crops we eat, and without them, we’d be facing a disastrous collapse in viable food production. That’s why, when honey bees started to disappear a few years ago, scientists scrambled to find the root cause of the phenomenon, which has since been dubbed “Colony Collapse Disorder.” The name is a bit of a misnomer, though. It’s not really a “disorder.” It’s more of a poisoning. Or at least that’s what we may be learning from new research that’s just been published in the ACS’ Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry (http://pubs.acs.org/stoken/presspac…). It’s been difficult, of course, trying to determine the cause of colony collapse disorder. Some of the suggested theories for explaining the phenomenon included chemical contamination from pesticides, genetic contamination from genetically modified crops, changes in the Earth’s magnetic field, climate change and air pollution. In an attempt to nail down some scientific answers, researchers from the USDA Agricultural Research Service in Tucson, Arizona joined with other researchers in New Orleans and the University of Wisconsin to check out another possible culprit: High-fructose corn syrup (HFCS). HFCS, as you may already know, is a processed, liquid sweetener used in disturbingly large amounts throughout the global food supply. You can find it in not just sodas, but pizza sauce, salad dressings and even whole wheat bread. It’s in breakfast cereals, food bars, peanut butter, ketchup and a thousand other products. There are two reasons why you find HFCS in so many food products: 1) It’s sweet. 2) It’s cheap. It is for these same two reasons that high-fructose corn syrup is fed to honey bees. It provides them the sugar calories to stay active without resulting in a huge cost for the beekeeper. That’s why HFCS has been used for decades as a food source for honey bees. But this very food source may, in fact, be poisoning the bees. HFCS forms hydroxymethylfurfural What these USDA researchers discovered is that when HFCS is heated, it forms hydroxymethylfurfural (HMF), a chemical that can kill honey bees. The production of HMF during cooking rose in parallel to the temperatures to which HFCS was exposed. To put it plainly, when you cook HFCS, it becomes contaminated with HMF. And according to the research, levels of HMF “jumped dramatically” when temperatures rose above 120 degrees Fahrenheit (which isn’t very hot, by the way). This is similar to the way in which browning or frying carbohydrates produces acrylamides, a cancer-causing chemical that’s also ubiquitous in the food supply. (http://www.naturalnews.com/acrylami…) The upshot is that HMF could be part of the reason why honey bees are dying off. Feeding a chemical contaminant to your bees, after all, doesn’t sound like a good way to support their long-term health. But if HFCS has been fed to honey bees for decades, why the sudden collapse of bee populations in just the last few years? We don’t know the answers to that yet, but HMF is likely only part of the picture. It could be that honey bees are already stressed from pesticides, GM crops and other environmental sources. With their chemical burdens already maxed out, one additional dietary stressor might have just pushed them over the edge. There’s a limit, of course, to how much chemical stress any biological organism can tolerate, and honey bees appear to have been pushed one chemical too far. Perhaps hydroxymethylfurfural will one day be known as “the chemical that killed the honey bees.” You can read a bit more about this chemical on Wikipedia: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrox…). Could HMF harm humans, too? Beyond the issue of honey bees, this research on HFCS and HMF raises some potentially serious questions about the use of the ingredient in the human food supply: Is HMF toxic to humans? If it kills honey bees, could it damage the brains of children? Could it disrupt normal neurological function in the human body? And if so, might this help explain why so much research links HFCS to diabetes and obesity? The researchers from this particular study stated that “…the data from this study are important for human health as well.” They also went on to state two very important facts you need to be aware of: Fact #1) HMF has been linked to DNA damage in humans. (See citation below.) Fact #2) When HMF breaks down in the human body, it breaks down into substances that may be even more harmful than the HMF itself. (Similar to the way in which aspartame breaks down into formaldehyde, formic acid and other potentially harmful chemicals.) These are bombshell revelations about the potential dangers of high-fructose corn syrup. There’s no such thing as “raw” or “cold-pressed” HFCS. It’s all subjected to high temperatures during processing, meaning that all HFCS may be generating some level of the HMF contaminant before it’s even put into foods. And then, once it’s added to manufactured food items, it’s often cooked again! This second cooking could theoretically generate even more HMF, further contaminating the food with potentially dangerous chemicals. Perhaps when you eat HFCS, you’re consuming a chemical that “scrambles” health intracellular communication, causing physiological disruptions that, if allowed to continue for long enough, are expressed as diseases like “diabetes” or “obesity.” We don’t know this for sure, but it’s a question that clearly needs to be asked… especially given the tremendous quantities of HFCS currently consumed in the diets of mainstream consumers. How to protect yourself There are two ways to protect yourself from all this: #1) Don’t eat (or drink) high-fructose corn syrup! This is seemingly the easiest way to avoid the potential danger here, but it does require a level of vigilance with the reading of food labels. HFCS is found in many products you would never suspect, so you’ve got to watch for it carefully. #2) Don’t eat cooked, processed foods! Work more raw foods into your diet and greatly reduce your consumption of factory foods. And finally, don’t believe the spin of the HFCS industry. Those lobbying groups will always insist HFCS is perfectly safe, regardless of what research concludes otherwise. They act a lot like Big Tobacco, in my opinion, criticizing good research while promoting a product that can contribute to the decline of health among those who consume it. The sooner we get HFCS out of the diet of both humans and honey bees, the better off we’ll all be in the long run. In my view, eating raw, dehydrated cane juice crystals is far better for you than eating cooked, contaminated HFCS. Sources for this story include: “Formation of Hydroxymethylfurfural in Domestic High-Fructose Corn Syrup and Its Toxicity to the Honey Bee (Apis mellifera)” http://pubs.acs.org/stoken/presspac… Durling, L. J.; Busk, L.; Hellman, B. E. Evaluation of the DNA damaging effect of the heat-induced food toxicant 5-hydroxymethylfurfural (HMF) in various cell lines with different activities of sulfotrasnferases Food Chem. Toxicol. 2009, 47 (4) 880– 884 http://www.coldtruth.com/2009/10/14… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrox… http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_relea…
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#1. To: Horse (#0)
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#2) Don’t eat cooked, processed foods! Work more raw foods into your diet and greatly reduce your consumption of factory foods. 1. Interesting how the article omits the exact "heated" temperature used in the experiment. Cooking just about any food product will create small traces of toxic chemicals in the food. Fortunately, the human body can remove such toxins from itself. For example, meat. 2. Uncooked food is far more dangerous than cooked food can be. Raw meat is REALLY dangerous! The amount of disease you can get from uncooked food are so numerous, that cooking food far weighs the dangers, compared to not cooking food. Food poisoning a very real threat with uncooked food.
Cooking just about any food product will create small traces of toxic chemicals in the food. Fortunately, the human body can remove such toxins from itself. Well there Paul, it seems like a mildly warm temperature is enough to produce the toxic substances this article speaks of. The scientists measured levels of HMF in HFCS products from different manufacturers over a period of 35 days at different temperatures. As temperatures rose, levels of HMF increased steadily. Levels jumped dramatically at about 120 degrees Fahrenheit. For example, meat. 2. Uncooked food is far more dangerous than cooked food can be. Raw meat is REALLY dangerous! The amount of disease you can get from uncooked food are so numerous, that cooking food far weighs the dangers, compared to not cooking food. So, do you think 120 degrees is about as difficult to achieve as tossing a steak onto the grill, or that the substances on the grilled steak are as toxic as what happens with HFCS? Do you think grilled steak would kill insects, such as flies or bees? I'll tell you what. Why don't you get yourself a nice big pan and fill it with High-C (or some other drink containing High Fructose Corn Syrup), heat it to a rolling boil, let it cool off, then chug it down and let us know how it goes....
Barring going to the African savannah, most places you have to intentionally heat something to reach 120 degrees Fahrenheit. Also, keep in mind, that those who composed the study believe ALL cooked foods and all "processed" foods are bad. So, anything they say has to be questioned, and verified by another party.
Nope. Out in parts of Arizona, temperatures regulary hit 120 or more in the summertime. Items left in a car in the hot sun with the windows rolled up can easily reach that temperature, even in northern states.
What gives you that idea? Are you saying that the American Chemical Society are a bunch of whackos and that the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry is a conspiracy publication? Journal reference: 1.LeBlanc et al. Formation of Hydroxymethylfurfural in Domestic High-Fructose Corn Syrup and Its Toxicity to the Honey Bee (Apis mellifera). Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, 2009; 57 (16): 7369 DOI: 10.1021/jf9014526 Adapted from materials provided by American Chemical Society, via EurekAlert!, a service of AAAS.
From the top article: #2) Don’t eat cooked, processed foods! Work more raw foods into your diet and greatly reduce your consumption of factory foods.
Paul, that is a true statement. The reason why diabetes and obesity is growing at such a rapid rate in this country is because of the amount of processed foods we eat. Procesed foods by themselves are not bad in moderation but the American people are eating way too much of these foods. I lost 50 lbs by cutting back on processsed foods and eating more fruits and veggies without any other change in my lifestyle i.e. I did not exercise more.
The Last Beekeeper (http://planetgreen.discovery.com/tv/reel-impact/reel-impact- beekeeper-documentary.html) is a very revealing look at the orchard pollination business. It airs again on Oct 24 on the Green Channel. But I'm not so sure it made it's case at least in the way it thought it did. If you were a bee in a hive and you suddenly found yourself in an overplowed wasteland full of dormant trees and totally devoid of other plant life, in an area of thousands of hives and billions of other bees, hundreds of miles from your prewinter home..... wouldn't you move too? Believe it or not bees hate overcrowding.
You earlier wrote, "Also, keep in mind, that those who composed the study believe ALL cooked foods and all "processed" foods are bad" The researchers did not write this article, the article simply referenced the study. So your statement is untrue, and your understanding of the subject is apparently not too good.
Researchers in resent years have shown a agenda and a bias that causes them to push their experiments in a direction, to get the results they planned for. That is not discovery, that is propaganda.
The article talks about not eating any cooked foods. And how do you define "processed foods"?
Paul It does not say to not eat cooked foods. . It say's "don't eat cooked, processed foods" and then it goes on further to say to reduce your consumption of factory (processed) foods. The sentance below say's to lower your consumption of cooked, proccessed foods, not to eat no cooked foods and not to eat no processed foods whatsoever. #2) Don’t eat cooked, processed foods! Work more raw foods into your diet and greatly reduce your consumption of factory foods.
Meals out of a can, TV dinners, ready made meals and meals you put together from a box i.e. beef a roni type stuff, fast food. I still eat these types of foods but I have cut back on them-my blood pressure has noticely dropped since I have cut back on these types of foods. . Ever notice how much sodium is on a can of campells soup???
That is not discovery, that is propaganda. Researchers in resent years have shown a agenda and a bias that causes them to push their experiments in a direction, to get the results they planned for. From your initial statement that the researchers themselves were against cooking food, you appear to inject your own personal views and bias into what you BELIEVE or THINK these impartial reseachers might BELIEVE or THINK. It was a lie then, and it is a lie now, no matter how hard you whine and stomp your feet. These researchers have nothing to do with the author's personal beliefs, they simply performed some experiments and reported the results. ANY other scientist can duplicate those experiments and get the same results, it's not a matter of BELIEFS such as what YOU view science to be. YOU are spouting propaganda Mr. CJ, not these scientists whose words are not even here in this article. Do you believe that there really isn't any other stars in the Universe, they're simply sparks of light in the sky that Jesus put up there? Wouldn't surprise me.
One bias study after another, all pushing tyranny against choice of food.
You seem to be an anti-science sort of person. That, or you have a vested interest in high fructose corn syrup. Simple fact, HFCS IS HARMFUL, yet you use agitprop tactics to ridicule the scientists who can PROVE it is. People don't choose HFCS in their food, it is FORCED upon them as it has replaced natural ingredients in countless food items over the past several decades. It is people such as you who ridicule legitimate warnings about artificial ingredients in food who trick people into ingesting poison, thinking it's perfectly safe and healthy. I bet you think Aspartame is a wonderful thing as well, don't you...
Paul; What I took from the article was just be careful what you eat--(because there are companies out there that do not have your best interest in hand-profit is their god-that's my opinion) and watch your intake of processed foods...not to cut them out entirely.
I am a anti-junk science, anti-nanny state, anti-tyranny person.
Do you think corporate entities should be given free reign to introduce toxic substances into our food, and that government officals should collude with them for personal profit? Why are you siding with them if you do not? As far as junk science, is that any science that doesn't agree with your own personal beliefs or biases?
Paul Please read up on why the FDA and the USDA was started.
Do you think government should have the power to tell people what to eat, sleep, where to work, what to think?
The FDA is a con-game, organizations bribe those on the FDA approval board to pass items through. That is what the untested H1N1 "vaccine" got approved so quickly.
No, but you and your corporate leach buddies are apparently filling that role.
You are the one posting the health-fascist propaganda. Edit: I was incorrect, FormerLurker did not post the above article.
Now why DO you side with corporate villains who replace rather safe natural ingredients with toxic brews? Why do you feel a need to lie, where you fabricate things such as "the researchers are against cooked food" where that is totally untrue, you don't even know who the fucking researchers are nor do you know what they think. Give me some info on the actual researchers and find me a study of their's that is against cooked food, or admit that you are lying. High fructose corn syryp is NOT food, it is a damn artificial ingredient manufactured through a chemical process, and is used to replace sugar in order to utilize corn rather than sugar cane for a slight profit advantage. Why the fuck are you so gaga over it?
Fine. Edit made in previous post. Yet, you defend the propaganda. I have seen dozens of these type of articles for the last two decades. Don't eat eggs. Don't eat sweets. Don't eat popcorn. Don't eat grilled hamburger. Etc... One fascist article after another, all for the purpose of supporting tyranny.
I don't care what you've read, nor do I care what you say. I have never supported those extreme views, I only state a fact here, and that is that HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP IS UNSAFE. So no, I don't defend "the propaganda" as you call it, I defend a scientific fact. You apparently can't see the difference between being against foods in general, and stating that tests indicate that an artificial substance may be unsafe for human consumption. Tyranny is being fed poison while being told that it's perfectly safe. You apparently support that tyranny, yet in true Orwellian fashion, accuse those who ARE against it as being FOR it.
As far as the popcorn thing, from what I recall it was due to ANOTHER artificial substance they were ADDING to the popcorn, not the popcorn itself. It seems that you have some sort of religious fervor over the right for corporations to adulterate our food with toxic substances. Do you work for a corporation, Monsanto perhaps?
No, tyranny is slavery in being denied the right to chose what to do, what to eat.
Freedom is having a choice, tyranny is when it is forced upon us, such as discreetly replacing natural sugar in everything from soft drinks and juice to barbeque sauce and salad dressing with a bastadized brew produced by a chemical process, being told it is safe, where it is not. Nobody is preventing you from ingesting any of the above, but where can I get a bottle of Coke that has sugar in it rather than high fructose corn syrup?
By supporting such studies as the top, you support tyranny.
What's the ol' body mass index, there, Paul? If you are pro-processed foods and certain that anything that remotely smacks of 'regulation' of them is 'tyranny', I'm just curious as to a rough estimate of your gravitational footprint. It's ok, though. The part of the ACS study no one wants you to see says that all the negative effects can be negated by drinking a Route 44 diet soda from Sonic.
Paul I remember when the high salt diet studies were attacked by people as tyranny and nanny stateism back in the 70's. Now every diet study, doctors groups, medical study etc encourages people to watch their salt intake as it has been proven eating a higher than norm salt intake leads to hypertension. Again, not to eliminate salt but watch your intake-be reasonable about it. This study about corn syrup is saying the same thing...watch your intake..not eliminate it all together.
Natural Organic Himalayan Salt for Your Health This article has a lot of excellent information about salt. It also promotes Original Himalayan Crystal Salt. I have no objection, since I use pink crystal sea salt myself - it's a completely different product, far better than refined salt, IMHO. - J. Kingsbury, Savvy Veg Most people buy iodized salt from the grocery store and don't think a thing about it. They don’t realize that good salt can help give them good health, while refined salt can create some health risks. Salt comes from the sea. It may have been laid down centuries ago in salt deposits, or it may have been dehydrated from pure seawater. Grocery store salt is different from salt from natural sources. It has been heated—up to 1200° F.! And refined to remove most of the natural elements. Grocery store salt is mostly chemical sodium chloride, while natural salt has up to 84 natural minerals in it. Your body craves salt. In fact, your blood actually contains 0.9% salt, which maintains the delicate balance of sodium throughout your body. Just about every system in your body needs salt to make it work. It is especially important for your nervous system, but every body structure absolutely requires it. The National Academy of Sciences advises that we consume at least 500 mg. of sodium a day to maintain good health. How much a person actually needs varies quite a bit, depending on their genetics and daily routine. The Healing Effect of Salt For thousands of years salt has been known as a panacea. Alchemists called it 'the fifth element'— besides water, earth, air and fire — because its qualities were comparable only to ether, the actual fifth element. Why are we so drawn to the ocean? Because our subconscious mind instinctively wants to return to the specific vibrational state of the ocean from which we once emerged. This is where we can return to recharge our batteries and regenerate. It was only two-hundred-fifty years ago, with the advent of industrialization, that we initiated our disconnection from nature and her ways. Fortunately, there's a trend back to natural, holistic methods for living and caring for our body, including a shift to utilizing natural salts in this process. People everywhere are reconsidering the healing effects of natural crystal salt. We can find it in skin care lotions and for use as bath salts, and it is even used in inhalation or cleansing treatments for illnesses of the respiratory system and for a variety of other indications. How Salt Became Sodium Chloride With the advent of industrial development, natural salt was “chemically cleaned” and reduced to the combination of sodium and chloride. Essential minerals and trace elements were removed as impurities. However, sodium chloride is an unnatural, isolated, unwholesome substance having nothing in common with salt. Similar to white, refined sugar, salt, once regarded as white gold, was converted into white poison. However, there is a higher reason for salt having been endowed with all the natural elements found in our bodies. Sodium chloride is an aggressive substance, which biochemically, is perpetually seeking an equalizing counterpart so that the body’s pH can always remain neutral. Sodium chloride needs its natural counterpart in order for it to produce its effect. The natural counterparts, such as potassium, calcium, magnesium and other minerals and trace elements, demonstrate, from a biophysical standpoint, specific frequency patterns. These patterns ensure the geometric structures in our body. When these structures are missing, we are without energy and are lifeless. Salt should not be used just to add flavor to our food, but for its vibration pattern, which is similar to our bodies! The Consequences of Consuming Table Salt The result of consuming common table salt is the formation of overly acidic edema, or excess fluid in the body tissue, which is also the cause of cellulite. That’s why doctors tell us to avoid salt. For every .035 ounces of sodium chloride that cannot be eliminated, the body uses 23 times (23x) the amount of its own cell water to neutralize the salt. If the sodium chloride is still too high, re-crystallization of the table salt occurs as the body uses available non-degradable animal proteins (as those found in milk), which also have no value and cannot be broken down and eliminated. The body uses these proteins to produce uric acid in order to get rid of the excess salt. As the body cannot dispose of uric acid, it binds itself with the sodium chloride to form new crystals that are deposited directly in the bones and joints. This is the cause of different kinds of rheumatism such as arthritis, gout, and kidney and gall bladder stones. This re-crystallization is the body’s band-aid solution for the cells and organs in order to protect the body from irreparable damage of irresponsible food intake. But in the long run, it poisons the system because those substances cannot be disposed of. Popular diets say you should reduce or even eliminate dietary salt for good health, especially for cardiovascular disease. Perhaps refined table salt, which can act like a poison in your body, can be more of a risk. But the research is undeniable: reducing or eliminating dietary salt is basically wrong. Your body absolutely requires salt, but it has to be the right kind. Natural health practitioners are convinced that good Himalayan crystal sea salt can improve your health. It keeps you safe and healthy during exercise; in fact, high-altitude hikers make sure they get enough so they don’t go into hyperthermia. Taking adequate dietary salt has improved and even eliminated Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Hypertension and stomach cancer have been linked to salt imbalance from improper dietary intake. Cystic fibrosis has been linked to improper salt metabolism. Expectant mothers are always advised to take enough salt in order to help create a healthy infant. If you've never tried good salt, you are going to be amazed at how good it tastes and how affordable it is. You may also be surprised at how quickly your health improves from using good, natural, organic salt.
Oh, so by warning people of the dangers of an artificial substance that does NOT belong in food and SHOULD NOT be put in food, I support fucking tyranny? You are a fucking idiot. You support fat assed bastards who care less about the millions upon millions of people they harm, as long as the profits come rolling in. WHO BENEFITS from switching sugar with HFCS? Is it the People, or is it the people who SELL THE FUCKING HFCS and the corporations that decide to use it instead of sugar to save a few pennies per item sold? Yeah, you're a fucking patriot and I support tyranny. Right.
And BTW, the posted article is NOT the study. THIS is the study if you care to look at it. Abstract Good Salt - Bad Salt bump
Oh, the BMI that the government uses that if you are not a walking skeleton, then you are obese.
1. What these USDA researchers discovered is that when HFCS is heated, it forms hydroxymethylfurfural (HMF), a chemical that can kill honey bees. The production of HMF during cooking rose in parallel to the temperatures to which HFCS was exposed.
#2. To: PaulCJ (#1)
Interesting how the article omits the exact "heated" temperature used in the experiment.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#3. To: FormerLurker (#2)
So, do you think 120 degrees is about as difficult to achieve as tossing a steak onto the grill, or that the substances on the grilled steak are as toxic as what happens with HFCS? Do you think grilled steak would kill insects, such as flies or bees?
#4. To: PaulCJ (#3)
Barring going to the African savannah, most places you have to intentionally heat something to reach 120 degrees Fahrenheit.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#5. To: PaulCJ (#3)
Also, keep in mind, that those who composed the study believe ALL cooked foods and all "processed" foods are bad.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#6. To: FormerLurker (#5)
What gives you that idea?
#7. To: PaulCJ (#6)
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From the top article: #2) Don’t eat cooked, processed foods! Work more raw foods into your diet and greatly reduce your consumption of factory foods.
#8. To: Horse (#0)
#9. To: PaulCJ (#6)
From the top article: #2) Don’t eat cooked, processed foods! Work more raw foods into your diet and greatly reduce your consumption of factory foods.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#10. To: FormerLurker (#9)
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The researchers did not write this article, the article simply referenced the study. So your statement is untrue, and your understanding of the subject is apparently not too good.
#11. To: belmontconservative (#7)
Paul, that is a true statement. The reason why diabetes and obesity is growing at such a rapid rate in this country is because of the amount of processed foods we eat.
#12. To: PaulCJ (#11)
The article talks about not eating any cooked foods.
#13. To: PaulCJ (#11)
And how do you define "processed foods"?
#14. To: PaulCJ (#10)
Researchers in resent years have shown a agenda and a bias that causes them to push their experiments in a direction, to get the results they planned for.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#15. To: FormerLurker (#14)
From your initial statement that the researchers themselves were against cooking food, you appear to inject your own personal views and bias into what you BELIEVE or THINK these impartial reseachers might BELIEVE or THINK.
#16. To: PaulCJ (#15)
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One bias study after another, all pushing tyranny against choice of food.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#17. To: PaulCJ (#15)
One bias study after another, all pushing tyranny against choice of food.
#18. To: FormerLurker (#16)
You seem to be an anti-science sort of person.
#19. To: PaulCJ (#18)
I am a anti-junk science, anti-nanny state, anti-tyranny person.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#20. To: PaulCJ (#18)
I am a anti-junk science, anti-nanny state, anti-tyranny person.
#21. To: FormerLurker (#19)
Do you think corporate entities should be given free reign to introduce toxic substances into our food, and that government officals should collude with them for personal profit?
#22. To: belmontconservative (#20)
Paul Please read up on why the FDA and the USDA was started.
#23. To: PaulCJ (#21)
Do you think government should have the power to tell people what to eat, sleep, where to work, what to think?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#24. To: FormerLurker (#23)
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No, but you and your corporate leach buddies are apparently filling that role.
#25. To: PaulCJ (#24)
You are the one posting the health-fascist propaganda.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#26. To: FormerLurker (#25)
(Edited)
I did not post this article
#27. To: PaulCJ (#26)
Don't eat eggs. Don't eat sweets. Don't eat popcorn. Don't eat grilled hamburger. Etc...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#28. To: PaulCJ (#26)
Don't eat popcorn
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#29. To: FormerLurker (#27)
Tyranny is being fed poison while being told that it's perfectly safe.
#30. To: PaulCJ (#29)
No, tyranny is slavery in being denied the right to chose what to do, what to eat.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#31. To: FormerLurker (#30)
#32. To: PaulCJ (#18)
#33. To: PaulCJ (#31)
(Edited)
By supporting such studies as the top, you support tyranny.
#34. To: belmontconservative (#33)
here's another point of view regarding salt. my understanding is that real salt, not iodized, is beneficial.
#35. To: PaulCJ (#31)
(Edited)
By supporting such studies as the top, you support tyranny.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#36. To: PaulCJ (#31)
(Edited)
By supporting such studies as the top, you support tyranny.
In the United States, high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) has become a sucrose replacement for honey bees and has widespread use as a sweetener in many processed foods and beverages for human consumption. It is utilized by commercial beekeepers as a food for honey bees for several reasons: to promote brood production, after bees have been moved for commercial pollination, and when field-gathered nectar sources are scarce. Hydroxymethylfurfural (HMF) is a heat-formed contaminant and is the most noted toxin to honey bees. Currently, there are no rapid field tests that would alert beekeepers of dangerous levels of HMF in HFCS or honey. In this study, the initial levels and the rates of formation of HMF at four temperatures were evaluated in U.S.-available HFCS samples. Different HFCS brands were analyzed and compared for acidity and metal ions by inductively coupled plasma mass spectroscopy. Levels of HMF in eight HFCS products were evaluated over 35 days, and the data were fit to polynomial and exponential equations, with excellent correlations. The data can be used by beekeepers to predict HMF formation on storage. Caged bee studies were conducted to evaluate the HMF dose-response effect on bee mortality. Finally, commercial bases such as lime, potash, and caustic soda were added to neutralize hydronium ion in HMF samples, and the rates of HMF formation were compared at 45 °C.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#37. To: christine (#34)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#38. To: Samuel Gray (#32)
What's the ol' body mass index, there, Paul?
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