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Title: It's time to pray for global warming
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URL Source: http://www.mlive.com/opinion/flint/ ... ime_to_pray_for_global_wa.html
Published: Jan 19, 2009
Author: Matt Bach
Post Date: 2009-10-21 02:33:01 by RickyJ
Keywords: None
Views: 454
Comments: 29

If you're wondering why North America is starting to resemble nuclear winter, then you missed the news.

At December's U.N. Global Warming conference in Poznan, Poland, 650 of the world's top climatologists stood up and said man-made global warming is a media generated myth without basis. Said climatologist Dr. David Gee, Chairman of the International Geological Congress, "For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming?"

I asked myself, why would such obviously smart guy say such a ridiculous thing? But it turns out he's right.

The earth's temperature peaked in 1998. It's been falling ever since; it dropped dramatically in 2007 and got worse in 2008, when temperatures touched 1980 levels.

Meanwhile, the University of Illinois' Arctic Climate Research Center released conclusive satellite photos showing that Arctic ice is back to 1979 levels. What's more, measurements of Antarctic ice now show that its accumulation is up 5 percent since 1980.

In other words, during what was supposed to be massive global warming, the biggest chunks of ice on earth grew larger. Just as an aside, do you remember when the hole in the ozone layer was going to melt Antarctica? But don't worry, we're safe now, that was the nineties.

Dr. Kunihiko, Chancellor of Japan's Institute of Science and Technology said this: "CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or the other ... every scientist knows this, but it doesn't pay to say so." Now why would a learned man say such a crazy thing?

This is where the looney left gets lost. Their mantra is atmospheric CO2 levels are escalating and this is unquestionably causing earth's temperature rise. But ask yourself -- if global temperatures are experiencing the biggest sustained drop in decades, while CO2 levels continue to rise -- how can it be true?

Ironically, in spite of being shown false, we must now pray for it. Because a massive study, just released by the Russian Government, contains overwhelming evidence that earth is on the verge of another Ice Age.

Based on core samples from Russia's Vostok Station in Antarctica, we now know earth's atmosphere and temperature for the last 420,000 years. This evidence suggests that the 12,000 years of warmth we call the Holocene period is over.

Apparently, we're headed into an ice age of about 100,000 years -- give or take. As for CO2 levels, core samples show conclusively they follow the earth's temperature rise, not lead it.

It turns out CO2 fluctuations follow the change in sea temperature. As water temperatures rise, oceans release additional dissolved CO2 -- like opening a warm brewsky.

To think, early last year, liberals suggested we spend 45 trillion dollars and give up five million jobs to fix global warming. But there is good news: now that we don't have to spend any of that money, we can give it all to the banks.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Meanwhile, the University of Illinois' Arctic Climate Research Center released conclusive satellite photos showing that Arctic ice is back to 1979 levels. What's more, measurements of Antarctic ice now show that its accumulation is up 5 percent since 1980.

In other words, during what was supposed to be massive global warming, the biggest chunks of ice on earth grew larger. Just as an aside, do you remember when the hole in the ozone layer was going to melt Antarctica? But don't worry, we're safe now, that was the nineties.

Hey Bukeroo, your "facts" don't line up with REALITY. Stop living in fantasy land dude.

Yeah, I know you were just trying to get to previous post off topic.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-10-21   2:35:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: RickyJ (#1)

Hi, everyone! My name is RickyJ. I am proud of myself mixing fact and fantasy with obscure Internet articles from far-off places that have no point nor orientation about the world around us thus proving my own personal thesis on an obscure chit-chat channel called "Freedom4um" normally reserved for political discussions.

As RickyJ, I personally dub this thread as AWESOME! As RickyJ, I just proved to the world that I have all the answers.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-21   2:47:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: buckeroo, RickyJ (#2)

University of Illinois' Arctic Climate Research Center released conclusive satellite photos showing that Arctic ice is back to 1979 levels. What's more, measurements of Antarctic ice now show that its accumulation is up 5 percent since 1980.

Okay.

You disagree with Ricky.

But what about what the University is saying?


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-21   2:51:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

chemtrails


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-21   2:53:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: wudidiz (#3)

But what about what the University is saying?

There are spikes "low" ... and there are spikes "high." But the overall median temperature is climbing.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-21   3:00:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buckeroo (#5)

What's more, measurements of Antarctic ice now show that its accumulation is up 5 percent since 1980.

1980.

That's 29 years ago.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-21   3:03:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: wudidiz (#6)

References? Or does the cat got your tongue (as usual)?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-21   3:04:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeroo (#7)

References for what?


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-21   3:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: wudidiz (#8)

You own statements .. Antarctica is amassing snow, ice and potential igloos.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-21   3:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: buckeroo (#5)

No, they are falling since 1999. Get use to it, it could get really cold before it warms up again. And in the mean time if you keep talking about this global warming crap you are going to look like a fool.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-10-21   3:11:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#9)

I own what statements?

Don't get sassy.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-21   3:12:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: buckeroo (#9)

Said climatologist Dr. David Gee, Chairman of the International Geological Congress, "For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming?"

How many years will it take you to understand?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-10-21   3:15:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: wudidiz (#11)

And don't forget about your own concepts dismissing global warming while the Arctic region is amassing the NorthWest Passage because of silly ice cubes in lukewarm water.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-21   3:17:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeroo (#13)

You're not even making sense anymore.

Put down the pipe.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-21   3:18:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeroo (#13)

I copy/pasted right from the article at the top of this thread and you want references?

Igloo you.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-21   3:22:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: wudidiz (#14)

Time and again, you create diversions concerning your own posts. It is your opinion, this world has an infinite amount of natural resources and capability to sustain everyman, woman and child without impact upon any of us. Correct?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-21   3:24:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: buckeroo (#16)

Seems like you're the one trying to divert.

I asked you what you thought of what the University said.

You didn't really answer.

I copy/pasted from the article.

You asked for references.

I asked you for what.

You said for my own statements.

Now you want to use... is it a strawman?

Please excuse me while I google....


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-21   3:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: All (#17)

I'll go with strawman until anyone corrects me.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-10-21   3:39:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: wudidiz (#15)

Igloo you.

hehehehehe

christine  posted on  2009-10-21   10:09:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: christine (#19)

hehehehehe

I sense an emotional outburst .. with your comment.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-23   21:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: buckeroo, wudidiz (#5)

But the overall median temperature is has been climbing.

There fixed. A cooling sun is changing that dramatically.


"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-23   21:43:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: farmfriend (#21)

There fixed.

Of course, your pathetic statement has little to do with reality.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-23   21:49:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo (#22)

your pathetic statement

Pathetic? You are playing with fire boy.


"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-23   22:03:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: farmfriend (#23)

Everyone sez "there is no global warming." Yet, around the world the lakes are shrinking while millions are starving or are thirsty.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-23   22:09:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeroo (#24)

You have got to be kidding.


"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-23   22:13:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: farmfriend (#25)

Show me one lake that is expanding in size. You can search your heart out.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-23   22:17:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeroo (#26)

Arguing with you is pointless and I refuse to do it. You know that.


"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-23   22:18:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: farmfriend (#27)

Where is all the water? Why.you know don't ya?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-23   22:19:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: wudidiz, bucket-a-goo, buckeroo (#15)

I copy/pasted right from the article at the top of this thread and you want references?

Igloo you.

Just remember you need sunscreen in frozen landscapes too.

So much for the Canadian Palm.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-10-24   0:11:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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