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Title: Mike Huckabee 2012 GOP Frontrunner-Tops Romney, Palin
Source: Baptist Press
URL Source: http://www.opposingviews.com/articl ... tops-romney-palin-r-1255992369
Published: Oct 22, 2009
Author: Baptist Press
Post Date: 2009-10-22 11:48:55 by Brian S
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WASHINGTON -- The last presidential election took place barely 11 months ago, but a new poll shows former Arkansas governor and Southern Baptist pastor Mike Huckabee leading a field of Republican candidates for the 2012 GOP nomination.

The Rasmussen survey of 750 Republican voters conducted Oct. 15 shows Huckabee at 29 percent, Mitt Romney 24 percent, Sarah Palin 18 percent and Newt Gingrich 14 percent. Huckabee also beats Romney and Palin in head-to-head matchups, edging Romney 44-39 percent and Palin 55-35 percent.

Although 2012 is still three years away, campaigning and fundraising for the GOP nomination will begin much sooner. The first debates will take place in 2011, several months after next year's mid-term elections.

Huckabee won eight states during his bid for the 2008 Republican nomination and finished second in delegate count. He's currently the host of his own show on Fox News, "Huckabee," which consistently is the top show in its time slot against other cable news programming.

He was governor of Arkansas for 10 years. Prior to his political career he served as pastor of Immanuel Baptist Church in Pine Bluff, Ark., and Beech Street Baptist Church in Texarkana, Ark. He also attended Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Subscribe to *Sarah Palin 2012*

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#16. To: scrapper2, Flint, all (#15)

I'm guessing u guys have seen the Huck-a-Goof play the bass guitar, trying to look cool? OMG, vomit time...

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-22   14:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

Wait a minute...

If Obama is the head of the dem ticket, why not Huckahick????

Why waste a good candidate to run against Obama?

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-22   14:50:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#17)

Hucky as an R or a D? Maybe a Z?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-22   14:52:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Jethro Tull (#18)

Huckahick wont matter, let him run on all tickets, still lose.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-22   14:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#19)

I hope he gets the R nod. That would ignite the independent wildfire like nothing I know of.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-22   14:58:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Jethro Tull (#20)

I think that fire is already lit and is looking for a lot of fuel to consume.

Hell, I've even entertained something of a pseudo-fantasy about running for Congress in my district.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-22   15:01:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Jethro Tull (#20)

hucklebee was the R fall guy that was kept alive solely to make sure Ron Paul didn't catch fire and have a place of stature at the R convention...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-22   15:06:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: SonOfLiberty (#21)

-fantasy

What?????

Join that corrupt business enterprise???? Become a member of GMIC....????

Good heavens. Where did we go wrong.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-22   15:07:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: SonOfLiberty (#21)

Go for it.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-10-22   15:07:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: SonOfLiberty (#21)

Hell, I've even entertained something of a pseudo-fantasy about running for Congress in my district.

Go for it! There's a dude in upstate NY pulling in the 20s against the R and D. Also, the "I" running for Gov. in NJ is at 15%. They're doing it w/o large bucks and a simple, "I'm not them" platform.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-22   15:07:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Rotara (#22)

hucklebee was the R fall guy that was kept alive solely to make sure Ron Paul didn't catch fire and have a place of stature at the R convention...

He was Pat Buchanan's, Alan Keyes in '96. Keyes kept Pat hamstrung by picking up 5-6%, which had it gone to PB would have put him in a dead heat w/Dole.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-22   15:10:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#23)

Kind of in a 1 term "audit the Fed, cast a No vote to everything statist, propose to eliminate the Income Tax, repeal Federal gun laws, force all regulation through Constitutional checks before vote, get us out of the Middle East and cut financial aid to all parties in the region" thought.

It is a pseudo-fantasy after all. Back when I was active in the LPO (LP of Ohio) I was constantly approached by the various chair(s) to run, but never did, seeking instead honest gainful employment. :)

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-22   15:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: SonOfLiberty, Lod, Jethro Tull (#27)

Well, if you are serious, I for one would give my full support. (Money being first and foremost)

Lod and Jethro are on board already. There would however be one small requirement from you before I get on board.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-22   15:18:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: SonOfLiberty (#27)

The Rs are begging the "I" in NJ to get out (read, money). He isn't moving as of this moment and I don't think he will. It's time to make these oafs pay.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-22   15:23:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Cynicom (#28)

There would however be one small requirement from you before I get on board.

Me: get us out of the Middle East and cut financial aid to all parties in the region.

And reject all monies, gifts, bribe attempts and threats of "interested parties" from those who may hold dual citizenships and who wish to influence U.S. federal government policies. Hell, given my druthers, I'd repeal as much foreign aid as they let me before sending out a sniper team to deal with me. heh.

I suspect that should that ever happen, if I'm not sniped, I'll end up penniless and without a family, living in a trailer in the middle of the Mojave. But the way I figure it, the Founding Fathers pledged their lives to the ideal of human liberty, and many of them followed through and made that sacrifice. How can any of us pledge less?

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-22   15:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Jethro Tull (#29)

The Rs are begging the "I" in NJ to get out (read, money). He isn't moving as of this moment and I don't think he will. It's time to make these oafs pay.

No doubt. Listening to the news, you can hear them getting extremely worried, not just Dems but Reps as well. They've crapped in their own food dish, now they'll have to eat it, I figure.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-22   15:28:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: SonOfLiberty (#27)

seeking instead honest gainful employment. :)

That's the rub ... people wishing to earn an honest living are repulsed by jobs wherein thievery is the means to the same end.

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity and possibly your soul.

noone222  posted on  2009-10-22   15:29:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: noone222 (#32)

That's the rub ... people wishing to earn an honest living are repulsed by jobs wherein thievery is the means to the same end.

That is the problem isn't it? I was always flattered and yet felt slightly...I don't know...insulted I guess, to think that I'd be "perfect" to be in such a place. I know they meant well (the LPO chair(s)) and felt I was marketable in some fashion (??? I don't know where or how, honestly), but still, ugh. That's 99% of the whole reason I encapsulate my thoughts as pseudo-fantasy now actually.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-22   15:32:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Brian S (#0)

Mike Huckabee 2012 GOP Frontrunner-Tops Romney, Palin

If nominated I would hope that Huck would select Sarah as his running mate.

What a lovely picture .... likable guy, likable gal boldly joining hands to leap together over the Peter Principle boundary.

George W. Bush ... => SCREWED.
Barack H. Obama . => DOOMED ...... J. A. Carter, (#3 Son)

iconoclast  posted on  2009-10-22   15:32:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: SonOfLiberty (#33)

but still, ugh.

Hahahaha ... I would consider it but I don't have an SSN (since the 80's) ... a definite requirement in the alternate (commercial) universe run by the FEDERAL (reserve bank) GOVERNMENT.

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity and possibly your soul.

noone222  posted on  2009-10-22   15:38:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: SonOfLiberty (#14)

I'm happy to welcome in people to our fight, but I want them to be on our side.

Better disavow yourself of that principle, son.

If you shoot for 100% pure or rejection for supporters you'll be gettin the votes of yourself and some of your relatives.

George W. Bush ... => SCREWED.
Barack H. Obama . => DOOMED ...... J. A. Carter, (#3 Son)

iconoclast  posted on  2009-10-22   15:47:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: SonOfLiberty, Jethro Tull, Lod, Cynicom (#8)

Traficant is a far leftist. He may be an honest man (I think it's a safe bet), but his political philosophy makes me gag

Holy crap! Traficant may be a far lefty in your book but he is way farther right than those who claim to be conservative. Ya better google in Traficant's name and watch those 1 minute attacks he had done on the house floor. If you still think he is a leftie, call funk & Wagnals and tell them you want the definition of a lefty changed.

Traficant has fought big government every step of the way. Maybe it's just that you are a rich kid who can't stand the average guy win anything against big government, big banks, big business, and corrupt politicans. I guess you never heard Traficant call his fellow congress critters whores or watched him fight the IRS.

Go take a peek at the real Jim Traficant and then get back to us.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-10-22   15:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: iconoclast (#36)

Now see, I don't disagree on the purity. I do disagree on taking up the cause for somebody guaranteed to diminish human liberty, just because he'll get rid of the Fed (or whatever). There's the half loaf theory, and then there's the "paltry crumb" theory. I do not subscribe to the paltry crumb theory.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-22   15:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: LACUMO (#37)

Go take a peek at the real Jim Traficant and then get back to us.

And didn't he apologize to the whores?

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-10-22   15:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: SonOfLiberty (#30)

I suspect that should that ever happen, if I'm not sniped, I'll end up penniless and without a family, living in a trailer in the middle of the Mojave.

I've got a lot out of Barstow you can rent cheap near the river. No utilities though. lol

mininggold  posted on  2009-10-22   15:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: LACUMO (#37) (Edited)

Holy crap! Traficant may be a far lefty in your book but he is way farther right than those who claim to be conservative.

I live in Ohio, I know Traficant, and I know his positions. I don't mind his take on the Fed, or cutting support for Israel, but otherwise, he's a left winger and thanks, but no thanks.

Maybe it's just that you are a rich kid who can't stand the average guy win anything against big government, big banks, big business, and corrupt politicans.

Yeah, that must be it. Born with a silver spoon in my mouth, delivered to me by my prohibition defying shine running grandpap from the poorer part of West Virginia, just before he took a union job as a mechanic. *eyeroll*

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-22   15:57:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: SonOfLiberty (#41)

I live in Ohio, I know Traficant, and I know his positions. I don't mind his take on the Fed, or cutting support for Israel, but otherwise, he's a left winger and thanks, but no thanks.

Well I live in PA 17 miles from Ohio and lesws than an hour from Youngstown. I've followed Jim Traficant from the time he was the Quarterback at Pitt. I've met Jim and spent quite a bit of time with him discussing various problems we face.

I know he is a champion of the little guy and wouldn't evict people who's homes were being foreclosed. He went to jail as Mahoning county sherrif defying a judge.

It just dawned on me. Your grandpa comes from west virginia, the state whose incestuous voters have repeated voted Robert" PORK" Byrd to office for over 50 years and also given us Jay Rockefeller who is a CFR/Neo-con suckass liberal. Now those two fit your definition.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-10-22   16:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Lod (#39)

And didn't he apologize to the whores?

Not to my knowledge. When and where?

LACUMO  posted on  2009-10-22   16:13:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: LACUMO (#42) (Edited)

Well I live in PA 17 miles from Ohio and lesws than an hour from Youngstown. I've followed Jim Traficant from the time he was the Quarterback at Pitt. I've met Jim and spent quite a bit of time with him discussing various problems we face.

Congratulations.

I know he is a champion of the little guy and wouldn't evict people who's homes were being foreclosed. He went to jail as Mahoning county sherrif defying a judge.

I'm more into champions of liberty, thanks.

It just dawned on me. Your grandpa comes from west virginia, the state whose incestuous voters have repeated voted Robert" PORK" Byrd to office for over 50 years and also given us Jay Rockefeller who is a CFR/Neo-con suckass liberal.

They moved to Ohio many, many, many decades ago and their kids (all in their late 50's and early 60's) were all born in Ohio. But thanks for the ad hominem.

Now those two fit your definition.

You don't deal well with people who disagree with you on anything do you? Calling names and slurring families may work for you, but they don't a lot to bolster your position. If anything, it makes me suspect that I'm on the right track in my own thinking. If Trafficant supporters take to screaming out insults as a first line of defense, then he can't be that solid.

Others can and do defend him without the vile sneering and insults. Maybe you can learn from them.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-22   16:16:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Brian S (#0)

Mike Huckabee 2012 GOP Frontrunner-Tops Romney, Palin

Oh yeah, I trust the Baptist Press shameless promotion of Huckabee......lol. Could you please find a more biased source?

abraxas  posted on  2009-10-22   16:21:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: SonOfLiberty (#44)

They moved to Ohio many, many, many decades ago and their kids (all in their late 50's and early 60's) were all born in Ohio. But thanks for the ad hominem.

I see I got a little close. I also see you brought the west by god virginia political savvy to Ohio when your family moved there. You transplanted west virginia, now ohio voter have given us Marc Dann, Ken Blackwell of black box voter fraud fame that gave us 4 more years of dubya, and Mike DeWine who's only bill he ever introduced was to make the butterfly the state bird of ohio or something like that. He was a retard from day one. Some judge of politicans and liberty you are sporting there pal.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-10-22   16:26:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: LACUMO (#46)

I see I got a little close

No, I was just pointing out your ad hominem. Honestly dude, you're just some guy on the internet and you don't really mean anything to me (nor anybody, I suspect, as none of us do). Hopefully you'll learn to not take things so seriously all the time.

I also see you brought the west by god virginia political savvy to Ohio when your family moved there.

What, the idea of rule of law, not men, and a strong Constitution that limits government to a very small and delimited set of powers? Possibly, my grandparents were big into that kind of thing. You might be onto something.

You transplanted west virginia, now ohio voter have given us Marc Dann, Ken Blackwell of black box voter

Well, technically speaking, I'm not a transplanted West Virginian (that's capitalized, it's a state and thus a proper name). I was born in North Carolina, thanks, to parents both born in Ohio. But I'm glad you care about my roots. ;)

Can't say I voted for Marc Dann or Ken Blackwell. Sorry. Not Dubya either, neither time. Weird isn't it?

Mike DeWine who's only bill he ever introduced was to make the butterfly the state bird of ohio or something like that. He was a retard from day one.<<

Can't say I ever voted for Mike DeWine either and I fully agree that he is, and has always been, as you say, a retard. Huh, go figure.

Some judge of politicans and liberty you are sporting there pal.

So if I'm reading you right, a person is accountable for and holds the exact beliefs of others, according to how others in his state vote. That makes absolutely no sense, on any level. You see, it's who I vote for, not against, that defines my politics. That's how it works. Individuals get to pick their own thoughts, and are not bound to the thoughts of their neighbors. Next time, try to keep this in mind, so you don't make the same mistake twice. Thanks! :)

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-22   16:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: SonOfLiberty. all (#47)

Individuals get to pick their own thoughts, and are not bound to the thoughts of their neighbors.

The reason that most of us here belong to no identifiable party or group.

We've finally seen through the two-party scam, and have rejected it.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-10-22   16:42:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Lod (#48)

We've finally seen through the two-party scam, and have rejected it.

BUMP!

LACUMO  posted on  2009-10-22   17:04:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: SonOfLiberty (#47)

Hopefully you'll learn to not take things so seriously all the time.

I gotta quit taking things so seriously alright. We got scads of time to turn this country around. It doesn't matter if obama or any of the pols become president. What is important is that I quit taking things seriously. Thats paramount! If my e-mail worked, I'd write obama and thank him for being president because he is just as good as the others. I would point out that he coulda done a tad bit better than picking Joe.

I owe you an ap[ology. Those incestuous west virginia voters must be in the other guys family. I just hate it to pieces when I accidentally strike someones nerves.

Gonna go run along and tell myself how great everything is in America. I'm also glad you pointed out to me and everyone on here that there are hundreds of candidates far far better than Traficant. Hell my neighbor is a great guy. Maybe he'll run. I'm elated that you pointed it out to me.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-10-22   17:22:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: abraxas (#45)

Could you please find a more biased source?

Nope. This one served its purposed.

If you care to find another source and post the article, I'll be sure to read it however.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2009-10-22   17:25:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Lod, christine, Jethro Tull, Cynicom, Dakmar (#6)

The ticket that would get my support is Ventura/Traficant - those guys would give America a real choice.

Screw that. How about a Chrissy/Tull on the America First, Second & Only ticket?

Cyni can be SecState or something, Dak SecTrans. You can make me the Ambassador to Israel Palestine.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-10-22   17:40:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Brian S (#51)

If you care to find another source and post the article, I'll be sure to read it however.

Can't.......seem........to........muster.......any.......interest.

I'll take your word that there couldn't possibly be a more biased source to report massive support for Mike Huckabee. : )

abraxas  posted on  2009-10-22   20:09:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: LACUMO (#50)

I gotta quit taking things so seriously alright. We got scads of time to turn this country around. It doesn't matter if obama or any of the pols become president. What is important is that I quit taking things seriously. Thats paramount! If my e-mail worked, I'd write obama and thank him for being president because he is just as good as the others. I would point out that he coulda done a tad bit better than picking Joe.

You're talking to a random guy you don't know on the internet. It's not like anything you say to me will in fact change the world. If you think that it might, then I really recommend that you take some time away from the keyboard and take a walk outside and breath some fresh air man.

I owe you an ap[ology. Those incestuous west virginia voters must be in the other guys family. I just hate it to pieces when I accidentally strike someones nerves.

You've got a very strong collectivist bent, I can't help but notice. Somehow you think that calling members of any state names, as a two year old would, affects somebody who has some kind of loose association with that state. It makes no sense really. I simply can't grok where you think that there's any offense taken, as there's nothing to be offended by really. You're railing at people who are not me or my family, why should I care?

Gonna go run along and tell myself how great everything is in America. I'm also glad you pointed out to me and everyone on here that there are hundreds of candidates far far better than Traficant. Hell my neighbor is a great guy. Maybe he'll run. I'm elated that you pointed it out to me.

Your neighbor, whom I don't know, may well be a better candidate. We need more common folks in office and less career politicians, in my opinion. That way, the common man gets some representation and we can restore liberty.

I'm just a guy you don't know on the internet. Learn to relax.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-23   8:53:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Lod (#48)

The reason that most of us here belong to no identifiable party or group.

We've finally seen through the two-party scam, and have rejected it.

Exactly!

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-23   8:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: abraxas (#53)

This source, if anything, is biased toward the Dems:

Huckabee's doing well because he connects better than the other GOP hopefuls with voters in the Midwest and South. For instance while Romney, Palin, and Pawlenty trail by 9, 17, and 18 points respectively in the Midwest Huckabee is down by just 3, something that could be a good omen for his prospects of again winning the Iowa primary as he did in 2008.

Huckabee's popularity among the remaining GOPers (20 percent of the U.S. public IDs as GOPer) tells us what the GOPers have become. They are now majority Southern Baptist and other allied Christian Zionists. There's no way they will ever compromise with "the world, the flesh and the devil," to put it in Bible-speak, and thus there's not much chance that party can ever assemble a winning national coalition again.

Anyone who tells them they must somehow broaden their appeal is demonized as "lib'rul," "commie," etc. When you have a religious-based party, you thrive on persecution or the perception of persecution. Ironically, the GOPers are now the "party of victims."

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-10-23   9:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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