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Title: Highly trained Islamic snipers on their way to the USA
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URL Source: http://www.alipac.us/article-657-thread-1-0.html
Published: Aug 23, 2005
Author: Ernesto Cienfuegos
Post Date: 2005-08-29 09:31:48 by Zipporah
Keywords: trained, Islamic, snipers
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Comments: 36
NOTE: La Voz de Aztlan is an extremist hate group in Southern California that has communicated several terrorist threats in the past against American citizens. They support illegal immigration, a separatist movement, and the forced removal of US territory. While we do not feel they are credible, we do feel they are making terrorist threats from US soil. We call on the federal government and the media to expose and address these terroristic threats that are made from inside of the US. Background information found at the bottom of this article. Juba is now a mythic hero to the Iraqi resistance. Word on the streets of Baghdad, from those who know Juba, is that his rifle is running out of space to add more "notches" that signify US occupation soldiers he has killed. Juba is now training an "elite" insurgent sniper squad that will target personnel coming in and out from Baghdad's Green Zone.
Highly trained Islamic snipers on their way to the USA
by Ernesto Cienfuegos
La Voz de Aztlan
http://www.aztlan.net
Los Angeles, Alta California - August 23, 2005 - (ACN) The USA mainstream media is "filtering" the news coming out of Iraq. It is not reporting on certain items deemed by the Pentagon to be detrimental to the morale of US troops or their families back home. Conspicuously absent are any reports on "Juba", a sniper who has been terrorizing US soldiers in Baghdad for months. Juba is the name given by US forces to a superbly trained insurgent sniper who has already killed at least 19 GI's including four US Marine snipers in one day.
No US soldier has ever seen Juba. They only hear one distinctive shot from a Tabuk sniper rifle (An Iraqi sniper rifle based on the Soviet Kalashnikov but fitted with a long barrel and a muzzle brake. It uses the 7.62mm Kalashnikov cartridge) and the next thing they see is another GI slumping down dead. The hit is usually to the head but Juba also aims at gaps in the GI's body armor. He has been known to hit his mark from 300 yards which is the length of three football fields. Juba takes only one shot and then disappears.
US troops who scramble to find Juba soon after he has struck find only his trademark that consists of a single 7.62mm Kalashnikov cartridge casing with a handwritten note. The note, in Arabic, says, "What has been taken in blood cannot be regained except by blood". The note is signed, "The Baghdad Sniper".
A particular worrisome development for USA based warmongers is a CIA intelligence report that says that a superbly trained Islamic sniper squad is on its way to the USA. According to the report, the Al-Ikhwan Al-Moslemoon (Muslim Brotherhood)is preparing to send a highly trained sniper squad to the USA that will target, at first, the lower and middle level leadership of the Islamophobic organizations that cater to the Zionists. This, we presume, includes the lackeys of the Zionists on radio and television. A few weeks ago, these puppets of Israel added insult to injury when they went on a vile tirade in support of the "toilet flushers" of the Holy Koran at Guantanamo. Many of these radio talk jockeys are not Jews but they act as mouthpieces for their employers who are. One of these virulent pundits for the Zionists said over the airwaves, "US soldiers at Guantanamo should have used the pages of the Koran to wipe their asses!"
La Voz de Aztlan received an e-mail from one of our subscribers in Saudi Arabia concerning the CIA report. Ali bin Ahmed bin Saleh Al-Fulani wrote that the Islamic sniper squad should include Congressman Tom Tancredo of the Colorado 6th Congressional District as one of its first targets. Tancredo recently made a public statement proposing that the USA "nuke" Mecca. "Nuke" means blasting a city with a nuclear bomb as was done to Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Mecca is Islam's holiest cities where millions of Muslims make a yearly religious pilgrimage. Ali added, "Instead of nuking the entire 6th congressional district and killing hundreds of thousands innocent civilians, a sniper should "nuke' Tancredo's ass with one 7.62mm Kalashnikov bullet hardened with depleted uranium!" Depleted uranium utilized in USA military projectiles has caused horrendous deformities in Iraqi babies.
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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)
If this is true, that's pretty awesome shooting.
I'm not sure how "worried" the Wargasm Party will be. That sounds like the perfect excuse to declare Code Red and start confiscating citizen's firearms.
I wouldnt doubt it. They've been trying to find some means and this would be a perfect opportunity.
I read an article about this guy I think it was posted here.
Ah ha! Just what the gun grabbers need.
Really, especially as it will be easy to dupe people like Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer into leading the charge, and the neocons can just "regretfully" follow along.
Carlos Hathcock with turbin. Or perhaps his name is Nakita or Vladmir.
Yep, rather than grab the guns, they'll stop the sale of ammo. A much easier way to go.
It was, right here: Elusive sniper saps US morale in Baghdad Commanders weigh their options as 'Juba' notches up more kills http://www.tos4truth.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=9735&Disp=14#C14
Thanks!
As you know the .30 Russian cartridge (7.62 Kalashnikov)is quite puny by high rifle standards. It is roughly equal in power to a .30-30 Winchester, which is the low end of the rifle power spectrum, particularly .30 caliber chamberings. And, 300 yards is by trained military sniper standards, not especially remarkable. Althought "JUBA" seemingly knows his stuff and his equipment's limitations and has (so far) successfully adapted his gig to same, keep in mind that an American sniper can hit a man at over three times that distance (1000 yards) with a rifle cartridge powerful enough to get the job done upon arrival. (.308 Winchester or, 7.62 NATO round) The .30 Russian cartridge is no 1000 yd cartridge. Now my .30-06? That's a rifle!
I've had the privilege of speaking with Gunny Hathcock and his wife on the phone several times. And, when he passed away his wife sent me a packet of news clippings and other coverage of his remarkable career, and his funeral. When the time was right, I put the question to Hathcock: "Gunny, did Oswald fire three rounds at the Kennedy motorcade in 6 seconds?" "The FBI asked me the same question." he replied. "I set up the simulation and fired OSWALD'S RIFLE, and it couldn't be done!" The Gunnery Sergeant told me. This was the proof I needed. The events of 22 November, 1963 are the reason I am the way I am today. Even though I was just a voice on the phone to Carlos he was quite forthcoming in our chats, and I really liked and respected him.
One of the most venerable cartridges ever developed - nice. Juba would be thrilled with that, or Christine's .300WinMag, or even my 7mmMag - tools to reach out to folks. Cheers.
The guy's not playing the "range" game, he's playing the stealth game. Killing 3 of our snipers in one day might be a record.
Christine's .300 WinMag? Or, your Big 7? Oh my God! I'm outclassed by youze guyz with belted, magnum cartridges! You Killers! (If I've written anything to offend either of you, I didn't mean it. Honest! [smile] ) BTW, Carlos Hathcock told me that his fave long range cartridge was the .300 WinMag! Go figure!
Killing 3 of our snipers in one day might be a record. Right.
;-) Thanks for the grin. My latest fascination is the .22WinMag and the FN FiveSeveN - wicked little rounds.
Even though I was just a voice on the phone to Carlos he was quite forthcoming in our chats, and I really liked and respected him. interesting! did you ever wonder why, if kennedy was shot from behind (ha), his head flew back instead of forward, and why jackie tried to escape out the back of the limo rather than ducking down for cover?
If you fall on the side that is pro-George and pro-war, you get your ass over to Iraq, and take the place of somebody who wants to come home.
I've never fired the FiveSeven, but, I've fired the .22Mag in a rifle and it was fun. Nice boom no recoil.
I've agonized over the assassination for many years, and the disinfo ops only aggravate my neuroses with their BS. I saw an interview with Oswald's brother and he believes that Oswald acted alone and was guilty. And, to "prove" it he fired a Weatherby bolt action 3 times (at nothing in particular, and without actually hitting anything) in a little over 4 seconds. The "reporter" and Brother Oswald then concluded that, because a well made sporting rifle could be cycled that quickly, Lee Oswald's POS Mannlicher-Carcano could be fired with deadly accuracy that quickly, too. Hathcock said that it couldn't. Who would you believe?
Juba is now a mythic hero to the Iraqi resistance. Word on the streets of Baghdad, from those who know Juba, is that his rifle is running out of space to add more "notches" that signify US occupation soldiers he has killed. Juba is now training an "elite" insurgent sniper squad that will target personnel coming in and out from Baghdad's Green Zone. So this is where "liberation" is taking us. I wonder if our enemies will use phrases like "breaking a few eggs to make an omelet" and "collateral damage".
"Wars have ever been but another aristocratic mode of plundering and oppressing commerce." - Richard Cobden -
And, depleted uranium is the gift that keeps on giving-for 4.5 BILLION YEARS! G_D forgive us, because the Iraqis never will. (before they all die, which is a distinct possibility)
If Carlos Hathcock said it could not be done then I believe him.
Because the normal involuntary reaction(reflex) is to jerk your head back. However I have real doubts about the lone shooter theory. If Castro was not behind this as payback for an attempt on him I would be surprised. That is why we never talk about killing foreign heads of state. They may be better at it.
Come on down to the CenTex, and we can have a blast of many calibers... The more, the merrier.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S. Burroughs
My question regarding that Carcano was always this: Back in those wonderful pre-GCA '68 days,you could order just about any kind of surplus rifle in the world,for twenty five bucks,U.S. money. Granting that Oswald was in supposedly very limited financial straits,I still find it difficult to believe that he'd set out to eliminate the President with a rifle that can best be described as marginally adequate. Given that '98 Mausers(or '09 Argentines,be still my heart),and '03 Springfields were available for somewhere around 20 dollars,why would Oswald have tried to pinch pennies and use a 15 dollar Carcano? After all,another 5 bucks and he could have had a Mauser or a Springfield,neither of which can be classified as anything but great.(disclaimer:I'm not a Nov.,'63 buff,so anything I say about this is what I think I remember someone else saying at one time)
The US had a silent coup de etat (sp) on that day as far as I can tell. And a significant number of highly placed officials were in on it, explictly or, after the fact, implictly. Oswald did not, and could not have executed JFK. It is physically impossible. Add that to all the other startling anomilies and the picture emerges that the US had a group that siezed control of the operation of the US in 1963, and still controlls it to this day.
When the time was right, I put the question to Hathcock: "Gunny, did Oswald fire three rounds at the Kennedy motorcade in 6 seconds?" "The FBI asked me the same question." he replied. "I set up the simulation and fired OSWALD'S RIFLE, and it couldn't be done!" That guy was incredible. I saw his bio on THC and was amazed. That settles it for me too. I never bought the official line but if anyone should know what that rifle could do it would have been Carlos.
Nothing i can add to that. Thank you.
The more, the merrier Thanks, I may do that!
Back in those wonderful pre-GCA '68 days,you could order just about any kind of surplus rifle in the world,for twenty five bucks,U.S. money. Granting that Oswald was in supposedly very limited financial straits,I still find it difficult to believe that he'd set out to eliminate the President with a rifle that can best be described as marginally adequate. Given that '98 Mausers(or '09 Argentines,be still my heart),and '03 Springfields were available for somewhere around 20 dollars,why would Oswald have tried to pinch pennies and use a 15 dollar Carcano? After all,another 5 bucks and he could have had a Mauser or a Springfield,neither of which can be classified as anything but great.(disclaimer:I'm not a Nov.,'63 buff,so anything I say about this is what I think I remember someone else saying at one time) Good questions. I seem to recall that LHO paid a little over $12 for that crab trap anchor. And, because of the low scope mount (and sloppy fit of the tubular, sliding breech block) the bolt could barely be worked, and there was simply no way to cycle it quickly, according to Hathcock. Oswald was a patsy. He may have believed that he was working for the white hats until he was arrested, when he blurted out that he was a patsy. The state department facilitated his re-entry into the country with suspicious speed, even though he had renounced his citizenship and married the niece of a high ranking KGB officer. Things like this really aggravate my neuroses.
Roger that. My feelings exactly.
Even John Connally's words "MY GOD!! They're gonna kill us ALL!!!" imply foreknowledge IMO.
Here's a map to assist our new guests. Points of interest are marked.
LOL!! Good idea :P
Juba is the name given by US forces to a superbly trained insurgent sniper who has already killed at least 19 GI's including four US Marine snipers in one day.
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#2. To: Zipporah (#0)
A particular worrisome development for USA based warmongers is a CIA intelligence report that says that a superbly trained Islamic sniper squad is on its way to the USA. According to the report, the Al-Ikhwan Al-Moslemoon (Muslim Brotherhood)is preparing to send a highly trained sniper squad to the USA that will target, at first, the lower and middle level leadership of the Islamophobic organizations that cater to the Zionists. This, we presume, includes the lackeys of the Zionists on radio and television.
#3. To: alpowolf (#2)
I'm not sure how "worried" the Wargasm Party will be. That sounds like the perfect excuse to declare Code Red and start confiscating citizen's firearms.
#4. To: Flintlock (#1)
#5. To: Zipporah (#0)
According to the report, the Al-Ikhwan Al-Moslemoon (Muslim Brotherhood)is preparing to send a highly trained sniper squad to the USA that will target, at first, the lower and middle level leadership of the Islamophobic organizations that cater to the Zionists.
#6. To: Jethro Tull (#5)
#7. To: Zipporah (#0)
#8. To: alpowolf (#6)
#9. To: Zipporah (#4)
I read an article about this guy I think it was posted here.
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#10. To: Flintlock (#9)
#11. To: Flintlock, Zipporah, christine (#1)
If this is true, that's pretty awesome shooting.
#12. To: Grumble Jones, Zipporah, christine (#7)
Carlos Hathcock with turbin.
#13. To: HOUNDDAWG (#11)
Now my .30-06? That's a rifle!
#14. To: HOUNDDAWG (#11)
As you know the .30 Russian cartridge (7.62 Kalashnikov)is quite puny
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#15. To: lodwick, christine (#13)
#16. To: Flintlock (#14)
The guy's not playing the "range" game, he's playing the stealth game.
#17. To: HOUNDDAWG (#15)
I'm outclassed by youze guyz with belted, magnum cartridges! You Killers! (If I've written anything to offend either of you, I didn't mean it. Honest!
#18. To: HOUNDDAWG (#12)
This was the proof I needed. The events of 22 November, 1963 are the reason I am the way I am today.
#19. To: lodwick (#17)
#20. To: christine (#18)
interesting! did you ever wonder why, if kennedy was shot from behind (ha), his head flew back instead of forward, and why jackie tried to escape out the back of the limo rather than ducking down for cover?
#21. To: Zipporah (#0)
US troops who scramble to find Juba soon after he has struck find only his trademark that consists of a single 7.62mm Kalashnikov cartridge casing with a handwritten note. The note, in Arabic, says, "What has been taken in blood cannot be regained except by blood". The note is signed, "The Baghdad Sniper".
#22. To: robin, christine (#21)
So this is where "liberation" is taking us. I wonder if our enemies will use phrases like "breaking a few eggs to make an omelet" and "collateral damage".
#23. To: HOUNDDAWG (#20)
#24. To: christine (#18)
#25. To: HOUNDDAWG (#19)
I've never fired the FiveSeven, but, I've fired the .22Mag in a rifle and it was fun.
#26. To: lodwick, Flintlock, robin, tom007 (#25)
meet me on that Shining Path
#27. To: HOUNDDAWG (#20)
I saw an interview with Oswald's brother and he believes that Oswald acted alone and was guilty. And, to "prove" it he fired a Weatherby bolt action 3 times (at nothing in particular, and without actually hitting anything) in a little over 4 seconds. The "reporter" and Brother Oswald then concluded that, because a well made sporting rifle could be cycled that quickly, Lee Oswald's POS Mannlicher-Carcano could be fired with deadly accuracy that quickly, too.
#28. To: christine (#18)
eresting! did you ever wonder why, if kennedy was shot from behind (ha), his head flew back instead of forward, and why jackie tried to escape out the back of the limo rather than ducking down for cover?
#29. To: HOUNDDAWG (#12)
#30. To: willyone (#23)
If Carlos Hathcock said it could not be done then I believe him.
#31. To: lodwick (#25)
Come on down to the CenTex, and we can have a blast of many calibers...
#32. To: sawsalimb, christine (#27)
My question regarding that Carcano was always this:
#33. To: Grumble Jones, christine (#29)
That settles it for me too. I never bought the official line but if anyone should know what that rifle could do it would have been Carlos
#34. To: christine (#18)
#35. To: Zipporah (#0)
#36. To: Splitends (#35)
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