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Title: Limbaugh Falls For A Hoax About The President's College Thesis
Source: Salon
URL Source: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/ ... /10/23/obama_thesis/index.html
Published: Oct 24, 2009
Author: Alex Koppelman
Post Date: 2009-10-24 12:45:41 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 24365
Comments: 199

On Friday, it seemed for a moment -- at least to Rush Limbaugh's listeners -- that the right had finally found the smoking gun to prove that President Obama secretly hates the U.S., its founders and even the Constitution.

Limbaugh read his radio audience an excerpt from what he said was Obama's senior thesis, which he wrote while at Columbia University. After more than a year shrouded in secrecy by the Obama campaign and a compliant media, the thesis had finally emerged, and it was even worse than some had feared.

The excerpt read by Limbaugh:

[T]he Constitution allows for many things, but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believed that the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy.

Limbaugh was, naturally, up in arms about this, calling the college-aged Obama a "little boy," and saying, "he still shares those same feelings."

Only not so much. As a bit of basic research would have shown Limbaugh, Obama didn't technically write a thesis at Columbia -- at the time, Columbia didn't really have senior theses -- though he did write a thesis-length paper. But it was on Soviet nuclear disarmament, not the Constitution.

Limbaugh and many others -- including Fox News' FoxNation.com -- fell for a hoax, believing that a post put up by a conservative blogger in August as satire was the truth. Apparently, Pajamas Media's Michael Ledeen was the conduit, as he dug it up and posted it earlier this week, apparently believing it to be true. (Not the first time Ledeen and Pajamas Media have been embarrassed by something he posted -- back in January of 2007, he reported that Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei had died. Khamenei remains alive to this day.) Again, a bit of basic research would have prevented all this, as this isn't the first time conservatives have treated this particular blogger's satire as if it were true.

Limbaugh noted later on in his show that it seemed the excerpts were fake, though he said he didn't care, both because of a series of quotes falsely attributed to him recently and because, "I know Obama thinks it."

Update: Ledeen has put up a post noting that the excerpt is a fake, and that he fell for a satire.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

As a bit of basic research would have shown Limbaugh,

Limbaugh doesn't research anything; he reads what his staff puts in front of his face each day when he stops in the studio on his way to the golf course.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   13:02:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#1)

I research some things.

Tell me something, has Obama chosen some Maoists and Marxists as czars?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   13:06:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

I research some things.

Tell me something, has Obama chosen some Maoists and Marxists as czars?

Why not start a new thread on that and I'll consider it?

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   13:10:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#3)

Because Nesters like yourself don't deserve new threads. Answer the question.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   13:12:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#4)

Answer the question.

When did you become the boss of me?

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   13:46:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#11)

Since when does the simple act of asking a question become a matter of who is being a boss? Given the history of this forum, I'm asking you a legitimate question. Is it that hard to answer, or is it more that you are a partisan and have trouble agreeing that Obama is surrounded by Maoists and Marxists?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   13:51:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jethro Tull (#13)

Given the history of this forum, I'm asking you a legitimate question. Is it that hard to answer, or is it more that you are a partisan and have trouble agreeing that Obama is surrounded by Maoists and Marxists?

And I said ask it on another thread instead of hijacking this one.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   14:13:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#18)

And I said ask it on another thread instead of hijacking this one

Don't you fret about threads being hijacked, ok? I'm more concerned with your fellow Obama fellators hijacking the forum.

Still no answer?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   14:22:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Jethro Tull (#22)

Why should he answer you? You are posing rhetorical and silly questions.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   14:26:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeroo (#26)

Rhetorical, yes obviously.

But silly ?

These klowns dodge and dodge and obfuscate and misdirect but never admit what they are; what they believe and what that makes them.

silly is butting in here, buck...

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   14:29:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Rotara (#28)

silly is butting in here, buck...

I guess you don't like me pointing out that anyone defending Limbaugh is an impossible position. The traitor is a GOP conspiracist and a clown unworthy of his wealth. He is exactly the image of the flip-side of the Democratic Party .... a pile of liars.

He has no interest in America other than acquiring wealth.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   14:34:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: buckeroo (#33)

Nobody is defending Limbaugh. He's a distraction, especially on 4um where he is rejected by everyone. BS posted the article to be a distraction and the Nesting d'bag who chimed in is a mere, common, Obama shill who is incapable of answering a direct question.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   14:46:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Jethro Tull, I Don't thinkso (#45)

Nobody is defending Limbaugh. He's a distraction, especially on 4um where he is rejected by everyone. BS posted the article to be a distraction and the Nesting d'bag who chimed in is a mere, common, Obama shill who is incapable of answering a direct question.

Poor baby and here you thought you had the discussion well directed and on message.

Just because that poster thinks Orly Taitz is a ditsy idiot he/she's an Obama supporter? lololol

mininggold  posted on  2009-10-24   14:51:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: mininggold (#52)

where have you been ? i don't think supports the obamalamadingdong program daily here on 4um.

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   14:52:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Rotara (#57)

where have you been ? i don't think supports the obamalamadingdong program daily here on 4um.

Sorry, but as usual you're full of shit.

Before today, my last post was on the 18th. Before that it was the 13th. Before that it was the 6th.

Time to get those meds checked. You're hallucinating.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   14:59:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#61)

Before today, my last post was on the 18th. Before that it was the 13th. Before that it was the 6th

That's because you're a Nester, a forum for partisan Obama fellators. Your time and energy is spent discussing matters of importance such as birth certificates, Orly, and Limbaugh. What I'm trying to say is 4um probably isn't for something like you. Please don't take it personal, I'm really here to help.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   15:06:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Jethro Tull (#66)

That's because you're a Nester, a forum for partisan Obama fellators

Since your pal Rotar isn't very good at research, maybe you could dig up my pro-Obama comments yourself.

Or, if you can't, you can just keep showing your stupidity for all to see.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:13:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#73)

Since your pal Rotar isn't very good at research, maybe you could dig up my pro-Obama comments yourself.

Kid, anyone on the Nest is an Obama Freak. Just deal with it.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   15:25:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Jethro Tull (#78)

Kid, anyone on the Nest is an Obama Freak. Just deal with it.

No, I prefer proof.

Why not provide it since you know it to be true about me?

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:27:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#79)

I just did. Members of the Nest are Obama fallators, so please, suck deeply.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   15:30:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Jethro Tull (#81)

I just did. Members of the Nest are Obama fallators, so please, suck deeply.

So you admit you can't do it.

I win. You're full of crap, just like Rotar.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:33:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#84)

Psst......DU is full of Ds. FR is full of Rs and the Nest is full of Obama Freaks. Couple that with your inability to answer a simple question and it leaves you, well, a Freak. See?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   15:37:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Jethro Tull (#88)

But you are a Limbaugh fan. It shows or otherwise characterizes the high level of intellect you personally wield. Next, you are voting Limbaugh as President to defeat 0bama in 2012.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:39:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: buckeroo, Jethro Tull, Rotara, ALL (#90)

Hey, all.

Want to watch something good unfold?

Pay attention to this thread.

I'm counting the minutes until it makes it's way to LP.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:42:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#91)

This is the Nest. This is where you post when not on LP. The Nest, as I said, is comprised of Obama fellators. Nobody but a leftist shill would post there

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   15:47:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Jethro Tull (#93)

This is the Nest. This is where you post when not on LP. The Nest, as I said, is comprised of Obama fellators. Nobody but a leftist shill would post there

I've heard that this is an anti-Semite site.

Does that mean that nobody but Nazis posts here?

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   16:02:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#97)

More deflection, Nestie....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   16:03:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Jethro Tull (#98)

More deflection, Nestie...

You really don't understand your own posts, do you?

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   16:05:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#100)

I understand this; you refuse to answer a simple question about Obama and post on a forum with fellow Obama socialists. I understand why you didn't answer my initial question and now others reading this do also.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   16:11:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Jethro Tull (#101)

Apparently you don't understand that smearing people because of where they post works against you, too.

This is an anti-Semite site; therefore (using what passes for logic for you) you're a Nazi.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   16:14:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#103)

This is an anti-Semite site; therefore (using what passes for logic for you) you're a Nazi.

It sounds to me like you've fallen for the Israel-First propaganda of yukon, mad dog, Magician and the other Israel before America types on LP. Just because the owner of this site believes in freedom of speech and refuses to remove the articles, comments and posters the before mentioned scum believe should be removed does not make this an anti-Semitic web site.

I'm not an anti-Semite, nor are many others on this board. As a matter of fact, myself and others have been chastised on more than one occasion for not believing that The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is real and for not believing that the Jews are responsible for every bad thing that goes on in the world.

You do Christine a disservice by spreading LP propaganda like this.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-10-24   16:37:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#131. To: Hayek Fan (#127)

Put a muzzle on Cynicom.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-10-24 16:40:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Hayek Fan (#127) (Edited)

It sounds to me like you've fallen for the Israel-First propaganda of yukon, mad dog, Magician and the other Israel before America types on LP.

I'm not an anti-Semite, nor are many others on this board.

That would be quite a trick, since I've got every single one of them on bozo.

And I'm not an Obama enabler, but to all the Sherlock Holmes' on this site I am because I post on other sites besides this one.

If it's a good enough reason to smear me, then it's good enough to smear all of you too.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24 16:43:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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