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Title: Limbaugh Falls For A Hoax About The President's College Thesis
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Salon
URL Source: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/ ... /10/23/obama_thesis/index.html
Published: Oct 24, 2009
Author: Alex Koppelman
Post Date: 2009-10-24 12:45:41 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 24387
Comments: 199
On Friday, it seemed for a moment -- at least to Rush Limbaugh's listeners -- that the right had finally found the smoking gun to prove that President Obama secretly hates the U.S., its founders and even the Constitution. Limbaugh read his radio audience an excerpt from what he said was Obama's senior thesis, which he wrote while at Columbia University. After more than a year shrouded in secrecy by the Obama campaign and a compliant media, the thesis had finally emerged, and it was even worse than some had feared. The excerpt read by Limbaugh: [T]he Constitution allows for many things, but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believed that the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy. Limbaugh was, naturally, up in arms about this, calling the college-aged Obama a "little boy," and saying, "he still shares those same feelings." Only not so much. As a bit of basic research would have shown Limbaugh, Obama didn't technically write a thesis at Columbia -- at the time, Columbia didn't really have senior theses -- though he did write a thesis-length paper. But it was on Soviet nuclear disarmament, not the Constitution. Limbaugh and many others -- including Fox News' FoxNation.com -- fell for a hoax, believing that a post put up by a conservative blogger in August as satire was the truth. Apparently, Pajamas Media's Michael Ledeen was the conduit, as he dug it up and posted it earlier this week, apparently believing it to be true. (Not the first time Ledeen and Pajamas Media have been embarrassed by something he posted -- back in January of 2007, he reported that Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei had died. Khamenei remains alive to this day.) Again, a bit of basic research would have prevented all this, as this isn't the first time conservatives have treated this particular blogger's satire as if it were true. Limbaugh noted later on in his show that it seemed the excerpts were fake, though he said he didn't care, both because of a series of quotes falsely attributed to him recently and because, "I know Obama thinks it." Update: Ledeen has put up a post noting that the excerpt is a fake, and that he fell for a satire.
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#124. To: Fred Mertz (#120)
Three it is. For a while after he traveled around with a beard, but he's given that up.
Hey pinhead, that's what you and your tag team do. Notice your "To:" list?
Welcome. This site is one of a very few that is not semetic owned and operated, as you have seen, much to your distress. Now ElPee, Freakville, perhaps are more to your liking. They are Jew owned and operated.. There are people that would ban such sites as this that allows freedom of speech, perhaps you are one???
It sounds to me like you've fallen for the Israel-First propaganda of yukon, mad dog, Magician and the other Israel before America types on LP. Just because the owner of this site believes in freedom of speech and refuses to remove the articles, comments and posters the before mentioned scum believe should be removed does not make this an anti-Semitic web site. I'm not an anti-Semite, nor are many others on this board. As a matter of fact, myself and others have been chastised on more than one occasion for not believing that The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is real and for not believing that the Jews are responsible for every bad thing that goes on in the world. You do Christine a disservice by spreading LP propaganda like this.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
Jim Robberson is a Jew? This is getting interesting. Please continue.
I respect an honest Jew that stands up and says so, and can discuss civilly any subject at hand. However goys that hide and are actual dry gulchers are to be treated as such.
BTW, it was your pal Jethro who decided to derail this thread, way back in post #2, remember?
Put a muzzle on Cynicom.
Showing your TRUE_COLOURS, 'eh? Rationalizing a fat assed pill-popper that begged for Iraq WAR. You aren't a conservative. You are a demonic war machine.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
8 Traits of The Disinformationalist: What to Look For Eight Traits of The Disinformationist 1. Avoidance In the end, you can usually spot the professional disinfo players by one or more of seven (now 8) distinct traits: Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist by H. Michael Sweeney copyright (c) 1997, 2000 All rights reserved proparanoid.net (Revised April 2000 - formerly SEVEN Traits) 1) Avoidance. They never actually discuss issues head-on or provide constructive input, generally avoiding citation of references or credentials. Rather, they merely imply this, that, and the other. Virtually everything about their presentation implies their authority and expert knowledge in the matter without any further justification for credibility. 2) Selectivity. They tend to pick and choose opponents carefully, either applying the hit-and-run approach against mere commentators supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier attacks on key opponents who are known to directly address issues. Should a commentator become argumentative with any success, the focus will shift to include the commentator as well. 3) Coincidental. They tend to surface suddenly and somewhat coincidentally with a new controversial topic with no clear prior record of participation in general discussions in the particular public arena involved. They likewise tend to vanish once the topic is no longer of general concern. They were likely directed or elected to be there for a reason, and vanish with the reason. 4) Teamwork. They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams. Of course, this can happen naturally in any public forum, but there will likely be an ongoing pattern of frequent exchanges of this sort where professionals are involved. Sometimes one of the players will infiltrate the opponent camp to become a source for straw man or other tactics designed to dilute opponent presentation strength. 5) Anti-conspiratorial. They almost always have disdain for 'conspiracy theorists' and, usually, for those who in any way believe JFK was not killed by LHO. Ask yourself why, if they hold such disdain for conspiracy theorists, do they focus on defending a single topic discussed in a NG focusing on conspiracies? One might think they would either be trying to make fools of everyone on every topic, or simply ignore the group they hold in such disdain. Or, one might more rightly conclude they have an ulterior motive for their actions in going out of their way to focus as they do. 6) Artificial Emotions. An odd kind of 'artificial' emotionalism and an unusually thick skin -- an ability to persevere and persist even in the face of overwhelming criticism and unacceptance. This likely stems from intelligence community training that, no matter how condemning the evidence, deny everything, and never become emotionally involved or reactive. The net result for a disinfo artist is that emotions can seem artificial. Most people, if responding in anger, for instance, will express their animosity throughout their rebuttal. But disinfo types usually have trouble maintaining the 'image' and are hot and cold with respect to pretended emotions and their usually more calm or unemotional communications style. It's just a job, and they often seem unable to 'act their role in character' as well in a communications medium as they might be able in a real face-to-face conversation/confrontation. You might have outright rage and indignation one moment, ho-hum the next, and more anger later -- an emotional yo-yo. With respect to being thick-skinned, no amount of criticism will deter them from doing their job, and they will generally continue their old disinfo patterns without any adjustments to criticisms of how obvious it is that they play that game -- where a more rational individual who truly cares what others think might seek to improve their communications style, substance, and so forth, or simply give up. 7) Inconsistent. There is also a tendency to make mistakes which betray their true self/motives. This may stem from not really knowing their topic, or it may be somewhat 'freudian', so to speak, in that perhaps they really root for the side of truth deep within. I have noted that often, they will simply cite contradictory information which neutralizes itself and the author. For instance, one such player claimed to be a Navy pilot, but blamed his poor communicating skills (spelling, grammar, incoherent style) on having only a grade-school education. I'm not aware of too many Navy pilots who don't have a college degree. Another claimed no knowledge of a particular topic/situation but later claimed first-hand knowledge of it. 8) BONUS TRAIT: Time Constant. Recently discovered, with respect to News Groups, is the response time factor. There are three ways this can be seen to work, especially when the government or other empowered player is involved in a cover up operation: 1) ANY NG posting by a targeted proponent for truth can result in an IMMEDIATE response. The government and other empowered players can afford to pay people to sit there and watch for an opportunity to do some damage. SINCE DISINFO IN A NG ONLY WORKS IF THE READER SEES IT - FAST RESPONSE IS CALLED FOR, or the visitor may be swayed towards truth. 2) When dealing in more direct ways with a disinformationalist, such as email, DELAY IS CALLED FOR - there will usually be a minimum of a 48-72 hour delay. This allows a sit-down team discussion on response strategy for best effect, and even enough time to 'get permission' or instruction from a formal chain of command. 3) In the NG example 1) above, it will often ALSO be seen that bigger guns are drawn and fired after the same 48-72 hours delay - the team approach in play. This is especially true when the targeted truth seeker or their comments are considered more important with respect to potential to reveal truth. Thus, a serious truth sayer will be attacked twice for the same sin. I close with the first paragraph of the introduction to my unpublished book, Fatal Rebirth: Truth cannot live on a diet of secrets, withering within entangled lies. Freedom cannot live on a diet of lies, surrendering to the veil of oppression. The human spirit cannot live on a diet of oppression, becoming subservient in the end to the will of evil. God, as truth incarnate, will not long let stand a world devoted to such evil. Therefore, let us have the truth and freedom our spirits require... or let us die seeking these things, for without them, we shall surely and justly perish in an evil world.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
I'm not an anti-Semite, nor are many others on this board. That would be quite a trick, since I've got every single one of them on bozo. And I'm not an Obama enabler, but to all the Sherlock Holmes' on this site I am because I post on other sites besides this one. If it's a good enough reason to smear me, then it's good enough to smear all of you too.
I have always liked that one best. First ran into on Freakville before they were able to ban people. My first banning was for this post...."I for one am tired of the daily flying of the anti semetic flag on FR"... I was gone, so started looking around and asking questions. Even talked to those that were around when FR was created.
I derailed the thread? I suspected you were a Nesting RAT and low and behold you deliver me this; "This is an anti-Semite site." The jig is up, kiddo.
Waaaaaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaaaaaaah!
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
If it's a good enough reason to smear me, then it's good enough to smear all of you too. It appears to me that only two people have made any such claim and the owner of this site was not one of them. So instead of besmirching those who have besmirched you, you have chosen to broad-brush insult everyone here, friend and foe a like. If that's how you want to handle things then that's your right, but you are as wrong as you claim those other two are.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
Many years ago on national tv, Limburg made this statement... "I am an ENTERTAINER, I AM SELLING SOMETHING". Many people have lost sight of that, its a job, he sells a line that makes money. Taking interest in such one does at their own peril, love or hate, makes no difference.
"I am an ENTERTAINER, I AM SELLING SOMETHING". Something else he said (on more than one occasion) that seemed to fly over the head of his supporters is that the only job of the Republican Party is to win elections. It's too bad that so many of his audience lack the critical thinking skills to understand the ramifications of that statement.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
aw shit, i admit it: well-nigh stupified... what derailment was reinforced:
My point is that smearing someone because of where they post is idiotic. I used this site's reputation as an example. It seems perfectly reasonable to me that if every poster on another site can be hit with a broad brush, then it's going to apply here too.
Are you yukon? All that's missing is the LOLAY!!!
Too many people are willing to listen to anyone and form opinions from that. However if they read the same material, they get exercised about nothing. Human trait, Hitler and a few others found that out, you have to harangue them, that is how you program them, spoken word, not the same written word.
You'd need to re-read my first post about that to grasp my point, but I don't think you're up to it.
I used this site's reputation as an example. It seems perfectly reasonable to me that if every poster on another site can be hit with a broad brush, then it's going to apply here too. Duh. I guess I read through the posts to quickly or wasn't paying enough attention to what I was reading. After re-reading your posts, it is apparent what your point was. My apologies for the misunderstanding.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
So, like, FReepers have it all together politically, eh?
Many years ago on national tv, Limburg made this statement... "I am an ENTERTAINER, I AM SELLING SOMETHING". Many people have lost sight of that, its a job, he sells a line that makes money. Taking interest in such one does at their own peril, love or hate, makes no difference. Here is another interesting question. Rush Limbaugh signed a multi-year multi-HUNDRED MILLION dollar contract that is most likely in excess of the advertising revenue generated by his program. What doesn't fit and why? If Rush Limbaugh's program is a money making operation how can it pay him more in salary than is made by the program? Why would a business pay an employee more money than he generates for the business? There is a reason someone wants him on the air. If it is not to make money then what is it? Got PsyOps?
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
I thought I was the official site Nazi. You haven't paid your Nazi dues. Kindly send me two cans of Spam for every month you have been posting. Faiure to remit will cause your account to be turned over to the collection agency of Silverstein, Goldman, Rosenblum, Goldberg, Katz, Goldstein, & Abdullah.
Sorry Herr Esso. I should have cleared my commie hunt with you before firing. It was impetuous of me, but I despise forum cross dressers. Time is of the essence.
Indeed, I am mildly pleased and entertained over the response... ;)
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
Amen Brother. It is better to die FREE than to live as a SLAVE. IMO
With the JOY of being 100% politically incorrect; you are a RETARD ! LOL !!!
YEA LIMBAUGH! <-- sarcasm
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
I haven't even gotten up thread enough to know WHAT you're talking about; but suffice it to say I can tell that my answer is good and well: This site has NOTHING to do with Globalist Corn Holer World Kommunists that would FUCK THEIR GRANDPA to accomplish the 'Greater Good'. So, yeah, you dumb SOBs got yourself stuck in the patch and now youz aint gettin out...
Do you swallow when you hook up with limp pills ??
Gee, thanks for clearing that up.
Fred, you're like the proverbial 'Pat' of forums. Do you know what that means Fred ??
Something tells me you still don't get it. Just G-pa's corn hole, yeah ?
No, you're perfectly clear, in your special way.
LOL !!! You're not only a World Kommunist, you're a lock, stck and brl owned twinkie for the Jew Order lobby !!! FOFLOL !!!!!
Ahhhh, pobrecito jew kommie stainer...LOL
Sorry, I don't have my yukon decoder ring handy.
Are you giving pills the doggie style position while you read this ???
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#125. To: Original_Intent (#123)
Yes, the shills are moving it to reinforce each other.
#126. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#119)
Thanks.
#127. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#103)
This is an anti-Semite site; therefore (using what passes for logic for you) you're a Nazi.
#128. To: Cynicom (#126)
#129. To: Original_Intent (#123)
#130. To: Original_Intent (#123)
The general tactic is that when they can't derail the thread by diverting people off onto other paths,
#131. To: Hayek Fan (#127)
#132. To: Jethro Tull (#6)
The leftist d'bags among us have trouble acknowledging that the real distraction isn't what Limbaugh says, but rather what Obama does.
#133. To: All (#123)
The following is a reprint of H. Michael Sweeney's fine piece on how to spot the professional disinformation artist. Located at: Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation
2. Selectivity
3. Coincidental
4. Teamwork
5. Anti-conspiratorial
6. Artificial Emotions
7. Inconsistent
8. Newly Discovered: Time Constant
#134. To: Hayek Fan (#127)
(Edited)
It sounds to me like you've fallen for the Israel-First propaganda of yukon, mad dog, Magician and the other Israel before America types on LP.
#135. To: Original_Intent (#133)
(Edited)
3) Coincidental. They tend to surface suddenly and somewhat coincidentally with a new controversial topic with no clear prior record of participation in general discussions in the particular public arena involved. They likewise tend to vanish once the topic is no longer of general concern. They were likely directed or elected to be there for a reason, and vanish with the reason.
#136. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#134)
#137. To: IDon'tThinkSo, Hayek Fan (#134)
#138. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#134)
And I'm not an Obama enabler, but to all the Sherlock Holmes' on this site I am because I post on other sites besides this one.
#139. To: Jethro Tull (#136)
The jig is up, kiddo.
#140. To: Cynicom (#139)
Many years ago on national tv, Limburg made this statement...
#141. To: Original_Intent (#123)
1. hoax,
2. hoax of hoax,
3. hoax of hoax of hoax,
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what is needed is rigorous yet supple axiom of hoaxiness for to determine hoaxsters from innocent bystanders because, even though its readily apparent they're all the same in the end, allowances ought be made for the emotionally sensitive; bawling can disconcert
#142. To: Hayek Fan (#138)
It appears to me that only two people have made any such claim and the owner of this site was not one of them.
#143. To: Original_Intent (#137)
Waaaaaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaaaaaaah!
#144. To: Hayek Fan (#140)
#145. To: Jethro Tull (#136)
I suspected you were a Nesting RAT and low and behold you deliver me this; "This is an anti-Semite site."
#146. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#142)
My point is that smearing someone because of where they post is idiotic.
#147. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#142)
My point is that smearing someone because of where they post is idiotic.
#148. To: Cynicom, Jethro Tull, Rotara, christine, TwentyTwelve, wudidiz, all (#139)
The jig is up, kiddo.
#149. To: Jethro Tull (#103)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#150. To: Esso (#149)
I thought I was the official site Nazi.
#151. To: abraxas (#71)
I must say, I am rather dumbfounded that an article about a pill popping asswipe like Windbag Limbaugh can garner 70 responses on 4um.
#152. To: Original_Intent (#133)
Truth cannot live on a diet of secrets, withering within entangled lies. Freedom cannot live on a diet of lies, surrendering to the veil of oppression. The human spirit cannot live on a diet of oppression, becoming subservient in the end to the will of evil. God, as truth incarnate, will not long let stand a world devoted to such evil. Therefore, let us have the truth and freedom our spirits require... or let us die seeking these things, for without them, we shall surely and justly perish in an evil world.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#153. To: buckeroo (#132)
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You aren't a conservative. You are a demonic war machine.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#154. To: Rotara (#153)
#155. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#119)
No, I'd say you took the bait by confirming what this site is all about.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#156. To: buckeroo (#154)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#157. To: Rotara (#155)
This site has NOTHING to do with Globalist Corn Holer World Kommunists that would FUCK THEIR GRANDPA to accomplish the 'Greater Good'.
#158. To: Fred Mertz (#116)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#159. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#157)
Gee, thanks for clearing that up.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#160. To: Rotara (#159)
Something tells me you still don't get it. Just G-pa's corn hole, yeah ?
#161. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#103)
This is an anti-Semite site; therefore (using what passes for logic for you) you're a Nazi.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#162. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#160)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#163. To: Rotara (#161)
FOFLOL !!!!!
#164. To: buckeroo (#106)
Are you backing Limbaugh for the President position in 2012?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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