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Title: Limbaugh Falls For A Hoax About The President's College Thesis
Source: Salon
URL Source: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/ ... /10/23/obama_thesis/index.html
Published: Oct 24, 2009
Author: Alex Koppelman
Post Date: 2009-10-24 12:45:41 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 24513
Comments: 199

On Friday, it seemed for a moment -- at least to Rush Limbaugh's listeners -- that the right had finally found the smoking gun to prove that President Obama secretly hates the U.S., its founders and even the Constitution.

Limbaugh read his radio audience an excerpt from what he said was Obama's senior thesis, which he wrote while at Columbia University. After more than a year shrouded in secrecy by the Obama campaign and a compliant media, the thesis had finally emerged, and it was even worse than some had feared.

The excerpt read by Limbaugh:

[T]he Constitution allows for many things, but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believed that the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy.

Limbaugh was, naturally, up in arms about this, calling the college-aged Obama a "little boy," and saying, "he still shares those same feelings."

Only not so much. As a bit of basic research would have shown Limbaugh, Obama didn't technically write a thesis at Columbia -- at the time, Columbia didn't really have senior theses -- though he did write a thesis-length paper. But it was on Soviet nuclear disarmament, not the Constitution.

Limbaugh and many others -- including Fox News' FoxNation.com -- fell for a hoax, believing that a post put up by a conservative blogger in August as satire was the truth. Apparently, Pajamas Media's Michael Ledeen was the conduit, as he dug it up and posted it earlier this week, apparently believing it to be true. (Not the first time Ledeen and Pajamas Media have been embarrassed by something he posted -- back in January of 2007, he reported that Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei had died. Khamenei remains alive to this day.) Again, a bit of basic research would have prevented all this, as this isn't the first time conservatives have treated this particular blogger's satire as if it were true.

Limbaugh noted later on in his show that it seemed the excerpts were fake, though he said he didn't care, both because of a series of quotes falsely attributed to him recently and because, "I know Obama thinks it."

Update: Ledeen has put up a post noting that the excerpt is a fake, and that he fell for a satire.

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#140. To: Cynicom (#139)

Many years ago on national tv, Limburg made this statement...

"I am an ENTERTAINER, I AM SELLING SOMETHING".

Something else he said (on more than one occasion) that seemed to fly over the head of his supporters is that the only job of the Republican Party is to win elections. It's too bad that so many of his audience lack the critical thinking skills to understand the ramifications of that statement.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-10-24   17:01:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Original_Intent (#123)

aw shit, i admit it: well-nigh stupified...

what derailment was reinforced:
1. hoax,
2. hoax of hoax,
3. hoax of hoax of hoax,
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what is needed is rigorous yet supple axiom of hoaxiness for to determine hoaxsters from innocent bystanders because, even though its readily apparent they're all the same in the end, allowances ought be made for the emotionally sensitive; bawling can disconcert

postpunk  posted on  2009-10-24   17:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Hayek Fan (#138)

It appears to me that only two people have made any such claim and the owner of this site was not one of them.

My point is that smearing someone because of where they post is idiotic.

I used this site's reputation as an example.

It seems perfectly reasonable to me that if every poster on another site can be hit with a broad brush, then it's going to apply here too.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   17:02:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Original_Intent (#137)

Waaaaaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Are you yukon?

All that's missing is the LOLAY!!!

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   17:03:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Hayek Fan (#140)

Too many people are willing to listen to anyone and form opinions from that.

However if they read the same material, they get exercised about nothing.

Human trait, Hitler and a few others found that out, you have to harangue them, that is how you program them, spoken word, not the same written word.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-24   17:06:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Jethro Tull (#136)

I suspected you were a Nesting RAT and low and behold you deliver me this; "This is an anti-Semite site."

You'd need to re-read my first post about that to grasp my point, but I don't think you're up to it.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   17:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#142)

My point is that smearing someone because of where they post is idiotic.

I used this site's reputation as an example.

It seems perfectly reasonable to me that if every poster on another site can be hit with a broad brush, then it's going to apply here too.

Duh. I guess I read through the posts to quickly or wasn't paying enough attention to what I was reading. After re-reading your posts, it is apparent what your point was. My apologies for the misunderstanding.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-10-24   17:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#142)

My point is that smearing someone because of where they post is idiotic.

So, like, FReepers have it all together politically, eh?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   17:24:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Cynicom, Jethro Tull, Rotara, christine, TwentyTwelve, wudidiz, all (#139)

The jig is up, kiddo.

Many years ago on national tv, Limburg made this statement...

"I am an ENTERTAINER, I AM SELLING SOMETHING".

Many people have lost sight of that, its a job, he sells a line that makes money.

Taking interest in such one does at their own peril, love or hate, makes no difference.

Here is another interesting question.

Rush Limbaugh signed a multi-year multi-HUNDRED MILLION dollar contract that is most likely in excess of the advertising revenue generated by his program.

What doesn't fit and why?

If Rush Limbaugh's program is a money making operation how can it pay him more in salary than is made by the program?

Why would a business pay an employee more money than he generates for the business?

There is a reason someone wants him on the air.

If it is not to make money then what is it?

Got PsyOps?

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-10-24   17:47:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Jethro Tull (#103)

I thought I was the official site Nazi. You haven't paid your Nazi dues. Kindly send me two cans of Spam for every month you have been posting.

Faiure to remit will cause your account to be turned over to the collection agency of Silverstein, Goldman, Rosenblum, Goldberg, Katz, Goldstein, & Abdullah.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-10-24   18:47:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Esso (#149)

I thought I was the official site Nazi.

Sorry Herr Esso. I should have cleared my commie hunt with you before firing. It was impetuous of me, but I despise forum cross dressers. Time is of the essence.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   19:29:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: abraxas (#71)

I must say, I am rather dumbfounded that an article about a pill popping asswipe like Windbag Limbaugh can garner 70 responses on 4um.

Indeed, I am mildly pleased and entertained over the response... ;)

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2009-10-24   19:35:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Original_Intent (#133)

Truth cannot live on a diet of secrets, withering within entangled lies. Freedom cannot live on a diet of lies, surrendering to the veil of oppression. The human spirit cannot live on a diet of oppression, becoming subservient in the end to the will of evil. God, as truth incarnate, will not long let stand a world devoted to such evil. Therefore, let us have the truth and freedom our spirits require... or let us die seeking these things, for without them, we shall surely and justly perish in an evil world.

Amen Brother.

It is better to die FREE than to live as a SLAVE. IMO


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   19:50:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: buckeroo (#132) (Edited)

You aren't a conservative. You are a demonic war machine.

With the JOY of being 100% politically incorrect; you are a RETARD !

LOL !!!


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   19:57:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: Rotara (#153)

YEA LIMBAUGH! <-- sarcasm

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   20:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#119)

No, I'd say you took the bait by confirming what this site is all about.

I haven't even gotten up thread enough to know WHAT you're talking about; but suffice it to say I can tell that my answer is good and well:

This site has NOTHING to do with Globalist Corn Holer World Kommunists that would FUCK THEIR GRANDPA to accomplish the 'Greater Good'.

So, yeah, you dumb SOBs got yourself stuck in the patch and now youz aint gettin out...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   20:04:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: buckeroo (#154)

Do you swallow when you hook up with limp pills ??


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   20:05:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Rotara (#155)

This site has NOTHING to do with Globalist Corn Holer World Kommunists that would FUCK THEIR GRANDPA to accomplish the 'Greater Good'.

Gee, thanks for clearing that up.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   20:05:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: Fred Mertz (#116)

Fred, you're like the proverbial 'Pat' of forums.

Do you know what that means Fred ??


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   20:06:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#157)

Gee, thanks for clearing that up.

Something tells me you still don't get it. Just G-pa's corn hole, yeah ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   20:07:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: Rotara (#159)

Something tells me you still don't get it. Just G-pa's corn hole, yeah ?

No, you're perfectly clear, in your special way.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   20:09:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#103)

This is an anti-Semite site; therefore (using what passes for logic for you) you're a Nazi.

LOL !!!

You're not only a World Kommunist, you're a lock, stck and brl owned twinkie for the Jew Order lobby !!!

FOFLOL !!!!!


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   20:09:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#160)

Ahhhh, pobrecito jew kommie stainer...LOL


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   20:10:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Rotara (#161)

FOFLOL !!!!!

Sorry, I don't have my yukon decoder ring handy.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   20:11:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: buckeroo (#106)

Are you backing Limbaugh for the President position in 2012?

Are you giving pills the doggie style position while you read this ???


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   20:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#163)

yukon ?

man are you a brain-crippled Globalist cock sucker...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   20:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: Rotara (#162)

Ahhhh, pobrecito jew kommie stainer...LOL

Yeah, I thought that if anybody could understand it, it would be you.

Lunatic your native tongue, is it?

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   20:12:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: buckeroo (#102)

Well, golly and gee whiz now, you are posing animated gif files. Shucks and gosh darn it. Ohh, you seem to pose some interesting stuff, though ... did you create those gif files? Or did you plagiarize them?

Coming from a drunk waste like you, ha ha ha; you haven't had an original thought in decades.

And you know I know...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   20:14:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#99)

No, this is a joke posting to get the birthers all excited.

Ahhh, I don't think so much used the 'birthers' smear.

Nice, coming from a World Kommunist Seamen Swallower.........LOL


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   20:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: Brian S (#151)

Indeed, I am mildly pleased and entertained over the response... ;)

Thread of the day, no doubt about it.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   20:16:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: Rotara, Original_Intent, Jethro Tull (#156)

Do you swallow when you hook up with limp pills ??

You should consider your pals:

The leftist d'bags among us have trouble acknowledging that the real distraction isn't what Limbaugh says, but rather what Obama does. -- Jethro Tull post#6

AND

Precisely. As well we have to consider, because I have a nasty suspicious mind, that the piece was planted with Limbaugh with the intent to help delegitimize questions regarding Oh'bummer. -- Original_Intent post #9

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   20:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: Rotara (#168)

Ah, I see.

You're using the completion backward principle.

Good for you. You won't learn anything that way, and in your case I think that's best.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   20:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Rotara (#167)

And you know I know...

I know you know diddly squat. You have turned against America relishing the pompous charlatan radio show talkmeister Limbaugh.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   20:23:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#169)

So you just kinda whore around how many forums?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   21:36:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#169)

Thread of the day, no doubt about it.

Just like tossing a handful of JuneBugs in to the hen house...

{{{cackle}}}

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2009-10-24   21:44:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: Jethro Tull (#173)

So you just kinda whore around how many forums?

Just about as many as you do, stubby.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   21:53:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: Jethro Tull (#173)

Why are they so fucked up ? Series, in your opinion...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   22:25:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#175)

So you just kinda whore around how many forums?

Just about as many as you do, stubby.

Amatroll, surely you know JT and where he posts.

Right ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   22:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: b s (#174)

brian,

for some reason i'm glad you have chickens.

sorry for the chickens, but nonetheless...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   22:29:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: buckeroo (#172)

I know you know diddly squat.

Do you wish that I post names, list addresses and post graphics. buck ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   22:32:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: Rotara (#179)

Do what ya gotta do fruitcake.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   22:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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