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Title: Limbaugh Falls For A Hoax About The President's College Thesis
Source: Salon
URL Source: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/ ... /10/23/obama_thesis/index.html
Published: Oct 24, 2009
Author: Alex Koppelman
Post Date: 2009-10-24 12:45:41 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 29373
Comments: 199

On Friday, it seemed for a moment -- at least to Rush Limbaugh's listeners -- that the right had finally found the smoking gun to prove that President Obama secretly hates the U.S., its founders and even the Constitution.

Limbaugh read his radio audience an excerpt from what he said was Obama's senior thesis, which he wrote while at Columbia University. After more than a year shrouded in secrecy by the Obama campaign and a compliant media, the thesis had finally emerged, and it was even worse than some had feared.

The excerpt read by Limbaugh:

[T]he Constitution allows for many things, but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believed that the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy.

Limbaugh was, naturally, up in arms about this, calling the college-aged Obama a "little boy," and saying, "he still shares those same feelings."

Only not so much. As a bit of basic research would have shown Limbaugh, Obama didn't technically write a thesis at Columbia -- at the time, Columbia didn't really have senior theses -- though he did write a thesis-length paper. But it was on Soviet nuclear disarmament, not the Constitution.

Limbaugh and many others -- including Fox News' FoxNation.com -- fell for a hoax, believing that a post put up by a conservative blogger in August as satire was the truth. Apparently, Pajamas Media's Michael Ledeen was the conduit, as he dug it up and posted it earlier this week, apparently believing it to be true. (Not the first time Ledeen and Pajamas Media have been embarrassed by something he posted -- back in January of 2007, he reported that Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei had died. Khamenei remains alive to this day.) Again, a bit of basic research would have prevented all this, as this isn't the first time conservatives have treated this particular blogger's satire as if it were true.

Limbaugh noted later on in his show that it seemed the excerpts were fake, though he said he didn't care, both because of a series of quotes falsely attributed to him recently and because, "I know Obama thinks it."

Update: Ledeen has put up a post noting that the excerpt is a fake, and that he fell for a satire.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

As a bit of basic research would have shown Limbaugh,

Limbaugh doesn't research anything; he reads what his staff puts in front of his face each day when he stops in the studio on his way to the golf course.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   13:02:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#1)

I research some things.

Tell me something, has Obama chosen some Maoists and Marxists as czars?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   13:06:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

I research some things.

Tell me something, has Obama chosen some Maoists and Marxists as czars?

Why not start a new thread on that and I'll consider it?

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   13:10:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#3)

Because Nesters like yourself don't deserve new threads. Answer the question.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   13:12:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#4)

Answer the question.

When did you become the boss of me?

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   13:46:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#11)

Since when does the simple act of asking a question become a matter of who is being a boss? Given the history of this forum, I'm asking you a legitimate question. Is it that hard to answer, or is it more that you are a partisan and have trouble agreeing that Obama is surrounded by Maoists and Marxists?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   13:51:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jethro Tull (#13)

Given the history of this forum, I'm asking you a legitimate question. Is it that hard to answer, or is it more that you are a partisan and have trouble agreeing that Obama is surrounded by Maoists and Marxists?

And I said ask it on another thread instead of hijacking this one.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   14:13:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#18)

And I said ask it on another thread instead of hijacking this one

Don't you fret about threads being hijacked, ok? I'm more concerned with your fellow Obama fellators hijacking the forum.

Still no answer?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   14:22:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Jethro Tull (#22)

Why should he answer you? You are posing rhetorical and silly questions.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   14:26:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeroo (#26)

Rhetorical, yes obviously.

But silly ?

These klowns dodge and dodge and obfuscate and misdirect but never admit what they are; what they believe and what that makes them.

silly is butting in here, buck...

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   14:29:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Rotara (#28)

silly is butting in here, buck...

I guess you don't like me pointing out that anyone defending Limbaugh is an impossible position. The traitor is a GOP conspiracist and a clown unworthy of his wealth. He is exactly the image of the flip-side of the Democratic Party .... a pile of liars.

He has no interest in America other than acquiring wealth.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   14:34:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: buckeroo (#33)

Nobody is defending Limbaugh. He's a distraction, especially on 4um where he is rejected by everyone. BS posted the article to be a distraction and the Nesting d'bag who chimed in is a mere, common, Obama shill who is incapable of answering a direct question.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   14:46:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Jethro Tull, I Don't thinkso (#45)

Nobody is defending Limbaugh. He's a distraction, especially on 4um where he is rejected by everyone. BS posted the article to be a distraction and the Nesting d'bag who chimed in is a mere, common, Obama shill who is incapable of answering a direct question.

Poor baby and here you thought you had the discussion well directed and on message.

Just because that poster thinks Orly Taitz is a ditsy idiot he/she's an Obama supporter? lololol

mininggold  posted on  2009-10-24   14:51:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: mininggold (#52)

where have you been ? i don't think supports the obamalamadingdong program daily here on 4um.

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   14:52:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Rotara (#57)

where have you been ? i don't think supports the obamalamadingdong program daily here on 4um.

Sorry, but as usual you're full of shit.

Before today, my last post was on the 18th. Before that it was the 13th. Before that it was the 6th.

Time to get those meds checked. You're hallucinating.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   14:59:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#61)

Before today, my last post was on the 18th. Before that it was the 13th. Before that it was the 6th

That's because you're a Nester, a forum for partisan Obama fellators. Your time and energy is spent discussing matters of importance such as birth certificates, Orly, and Limbaugh. What I'm trying to say is 4um probably isn't for something like you. Please don't take it personal, I'm really here to help.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   15:06:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Jethro Tull (#66)

That's because you're a Nester, a forum for partisan Obama fellators

Since your pal Rotar isn't very good at research, maybe you could dig up my pro-Obama comments yourself.

Or, if you can't, you can just keep showing your stupidity for all to see.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:13:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#73)

Since your pal Rotar isn't very good at research, maybe you could dig up my pro-Obama comments yourself.

Kid, anyone on the Nest is an Obama Freak. Just deal with it.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   15:25:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Jethro Tull (#78)

Kid, anyone on the Nest is an Obama Freak. Just deal with it.

No, I prefer proof.

Why not provide it since you know it to be true about me?

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:27:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#79)

I just did. Members of the Nest are Obama fallators, so please, suck deeply.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   15:30:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Jethro Tull (#81)

I just did. Members of the Nest are Obama fallators, so please, suck deeply.

So you admit you can't do it.

I win. You're full of crap, just like Rotar.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:33:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#84)

Psst......DU is full of Ds. FR is full of Rs and the Nest is full of Obama Freaks. Couple that with your inability to answer a simple question and it leaves you, well, a Freak. See?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   15:37:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Jethro Tull (#88)

But you are a Limbaugh fan. It shows or otherwise characterizes the high level of intellect you personally wield. Next, you are voting Limbaugh as President to defeat 0bama in 2012.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:39:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: buckeroo, Jethro Tull, Rotara, ALL (#90)

Hey, all.

Want to watch something good unfold?

Pay attention to this thread.

I'm counting the minutes until it makes it's way to LP.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:42:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#91)

In a move that has the Plantiffs "amazingly overjoyed," Judge David O. Carter has turned down the Government’s motion for Dismissal in the case of Barnett vs. Obama.

"This is a victory for democracy and the people of America," Rancho Santa Margarita-based attorney Orly Taitz said after this morning’s early meeting in the Judge’s offices.

"This means that, come January, the President of the United States will be forced to come into this same courtroom and explain his massive fraud to the American people."

Taitz represents Capt. Pamela Barnett and other military officers who question orders from the commander in chief, as well as Presidential Candidate Alan Keyes. She has tried similar lawsuits elsewhere, but has failed, most recently in Georgia, where U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land not only rejected the lawsuit Taitz filed, but then fined her $20,000 for filing a "frivolous" appeal.

Taitz is joined in this lawsuit by Ramona-based lawyer Gary G. Kreep, who unsuccessfully tried to sever his case from hers.

"I’m astounded, quite frankly," Kreep commented. "I really thought, after the last Court session, that we weren’t going to get this far. I guess I should have given Judge Carter more credit than I did."

The case revolves around whether Obama was born in the United States. In the previous hearing, in which the Government presented its Motion to Dismiss the case, Carter seemed skeptical that a courtroom was the appropriate place for such a matter to be decided.

Department of Justice attorneys Roger West and David DeJute had argued that only Congress can remove a president through impeachment. The only way the courts could be involved was to have the chief justice of the Supreme Court preside over the impeachment trial.

Both West and DeJute refused to comment.

By WIRE SERVICES -- Story Published: Oct 23, 2009 at 8:50 PDT

This item is just breaking and I would consider it as "Not Verified." There are only a couple of sources on the Internet at the moment, and Taitz doesn't have a comment on her blog.

Another dead head website, headed by a money grubbing fool and articles that make no sense at all other than to inflate egos.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:45:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: buckeroo (#92)

Another dead head website, headed by a money grubbing fool and articles that make no sense at all other than to inflate egos.

And fatten wallets.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-10-24   15:58:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Fred Mertz (#94)

And fatten wallets.

No, this is a joke posting to get the birthers all excited.

It worked for a while at FR; unfortunately no one at LP picked up on it.

Where are packrat and JoeSnuffy when you really need them?

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   16:05:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#99)

No, this is a joke posting to get the birthers all excited.

Ahhh, I don't think so much used the 'birthers' smear.

Nice, coming from a World Kommunist Seamen Swallower.........LOL

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   20:15:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: Rotara (#168)

Ah, I see.

You're using the completion backward principle.

Good for you. You won't learn anything that way, and in your case I think that's best.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   20:17:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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