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Title: Limbaugh Falls For A Hoax About The President's College Thesis
Source: Salon
URL Source: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/ ... /10/23/obama_thesis/index.html
Published: Oct 24, 2009
Author: Alex Koppelman
Post Date: 2009-10-24 12:45:41 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 30127
Comments: 199

On Friday, it seemed for a moment -- at least to Rush Limbaugh's listeners -- that the right had finally found the smoking gun to prove that President Obama secretly hates the U.S., its founders and even the Constitution.

Limbaugh read his radio audience an excerpt from what he said was Obama's senior thesis, which he wrote while at Columbia University. After more than a year shrouded in secrecy by the Obama campaign and a compliant media, the thesis had finally emerged, and it was even worse than some had feared.

The excerpt read by Limbaugh:

[T]he Constitution allows for many things, but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believed that the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy.

Limbaugh was, naturally, up in arms about this, calling the college-aged Obama a "little boy," and saying, "he still shares those same feelings."

Only not so much. As a bit of basic research would have shown Limbaugh, Obama didn't technically write a thesis at Columbia -- at the time, Columbia didn't really have senior theses -- though he did write a thesis-length paper. But it was on Soviet nuclear disarmament, not the Constitution.

Limbaugh and many others -- including Fox News' FoxNation.com -- fell for a hoax, believing that a post put up by a conservative blogger in August as satire was the truth. Apparently, Pajamas Media's Michael Ledeen was the conduit, as he dug it up and posted it earlier this week, apparently believing it to be true. (Not the first time Ledeen and Pajamas Media have been embarrassed by something he posted -- back in January of 2007, he reported that Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei had died. Khamenei remains alive to this day.) Again, a bit of basic research would have prevented all this, as this isn't the first time conservatives have treated this particular blogger's satire as if it were true.

Limbaugh noted later on in his show that it seemed the excerpts were fake, though he said he didn't care, both because of a series of quotes falsely attributed to him recently and because, "I know Obama thinks it."

Update: Ledeen has put up a post noting that the excerpt is a fake, and that he fell for a satire.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

As a bit of basic research would have shown Limbaugh,

Limbaugh doesn't research anything; he reads what his staff puts in front of his face each day when he stops in the studio on his way to the golf course.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   13:02:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#1)

I research some things.

Tell me something, has Obama chosen some Maoists and Marxists as czars?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   13:06:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

I'm cracking a beer...

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   13:14:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Rotara (#5)

The leftist d'bags among us have trouble acknowledging that the real distraction isn't what Limbaugh says, but rather what Obama does.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   13:20:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

But that's their game. Move the ball forward at all costs...intellectual dishonesty is their most glaring characteristic on these boards.

What's in it for them ???

Feh. They're going to get it alright...

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   13:23:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Rotara, Jethro Tull (#8)

What's in it for them ???

Feh. They're going to get it alright...

"Democracy is the theory that the common man knows exactly what he wants and deserves to get it good and hard." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-10-24   13:43:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#10)

"Democracy is the theory that the common man knows exactly what he wants and deserves to get it good and hard." ~ H. L. Mencken

Pure Democracy is two wolves and one sheep taking a vote on what to eat for dinner.

Our nation is NOT a Democracy; it IS a Representative Republic (that's been bought off by wicked men to enrich other wicked men - Traitors) which is off the tracks - Thanks to wolves like IDon'tThink...

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   13:53:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Rotara, Jethro Tull, IDon'tThinkSo, all (#15)

"Democracy is the theory that the common man knows exactly what he wants and deserves to get it good and hard." ~ H. L. Mencken

Pure Democracy is two wolves and one sheep taking a vote on what to eat for dinner.

Our nation is NOT a Democracy; it IS a Representative Republic (that's been bought off by wicked men to enrich other wicked men - Traitors) which is off the tracks - Thanks to wolves like IDon'tThink...

The other part of that quote frequently gets left off - probably because most people have not read the original:

"Democracy is two wolves and sheep voting on what's for dinner. Liberty is a well armed sheep contesting the vote." ~ Benjamin Franklin ca. 1745

Don't be too hard on poor ol' IDT - he comes from a generation that has been dumbed down, disinformed, misinformed, maniputlated constantly by skools and mediawhores, not informed by omitted history, etc., .... I don't find it surprising to see people drawing false conclusions when they are missing data and believe to be true things that are not. The real problem is breaking through the programming that has been installed and getting them to look and think for themselves rather than regurgitate. Of course some of them are also shills here to disrupt and discredit the forum.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-10-24   14:32:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Original_Intent, Jethro Tull (#31)

Don't be too hard on poor ol' IDT - he comes from a generation that has been dumbed down, disinformed, misinformed, maniputlated constantly by skools and mediawhores, not informed by omitted history, etc.

Omitted history is the most important part of your post.

IN this day and age there is NO excuse for people not filling in the obvious blanks on their own, other than...they are too intellectually lazy... AND TOO PROGRAMMED.

I have gotten to the point that when I make a general statement based on history and someone imediately wants confirmation, source or whatever.

I tell them, do your own reasearch, educate yourself. They accept it as the gospel that if they were not taught it at Harvard, then what do I know about it..

Fortunately for them I do not use bad language.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-24   14:40:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Cynicom, Jethro Tull (#37)

Don't be too hard on poor ol' IDT - he comes from a generation that has been dumbed down, disinformed, misinformed, maniputlated constantly by skools and mediawhores, not informed by omitted history, etc.

Omitted history is the most important part of your post.

IN this day and age there is NO excuse for people not filling in the obvious blanks on their own, other than...they are too intellectually lazy... AND TOO PROGRAMMED.

I have gotten to the point that when I make a general statement based on history and someone imediately wants confirmation, source or whatever.

I tell them, do your own reasearch, educate yourself. They accept it as the gospel that if they were not taught it at Harvard, then what do I know about it..

Fortunately for them I do not use bad language.

My favorite example is a young "lady" who worked in the same building I do. I was relating a recent archaeologic discovery off of the coast of India (a city that blows the conventional timeline out of the water) and her response was that it couldn't be true because otherwise it would have been mentioned on CNN.

In the face of such breathtaking ignorance I could thing of no suitable reply.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-10-24   14:52:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#59. To: Original_Intent (#55)

and her response was that it couldn't be true because otherwise it would have been mentioned on CNN.

A ten-pound sledgehammer couldn't break thru that amount of programming. Same with political oafs, as if we can't see walking bags of siht when we spot them.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24 14:56:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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