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Title: Limbaugh Falls For A Hoax About The President's College Thesis
Source: Salon
URL Source: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/ ... /10/23/obama_thesis/index.html
Published: Oct 24, 2009
Author: Alex Koppelman
Post Date: 2009-10-24 12:45:41 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 24242
Comments: 199

On Friday, it seemed for a moment -- at least to Rush Limbaugh's listeners -- that the right had finally found the smoking gun to prove that President Obama secretly hates the U.S., its founders and even the Constitution.

Limbaugh read his radio audience an excerpt from what he said was Obama's senior thesis, which he wrote while at Columbia University. After more than a year shrouded in secrecy by the Obama campaign and a compliant media, the thesis had finally emerged, and it was even worse than some had feared.

The excerpt read by Limbaugh:

[T]he Constitution allows for many things, but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believed that the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy.

Limbaugh was, naturally, up in arms about this, calling the college-aged Obama a "little boy," and saying, "he still shares those same feelings."

Only not so much. As a bit of basic research would have shown Limbaugh, Obama didn't technically write a thesis at Columbia -- at the time, Columbia didn't really have senior theses -- though he did write a thesis-length paper. But it was on Soviet nuclear disarmament, not the Constitution.

Limbaugh and many others -- including Fox News' FoxNation.com -- fell for a hoax, believing that a post put up by a conservative blogger in August as satire was the truth. Apparently, Pajamas Media's Michael Ledeen was the conduit, as he dug it up and posted it earlier this week, apparently believing it to be true. (Not the first time Ledeen and Pajamas Media have been embarrassed by something he posted -- back in January of 2007, he reported that Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei had died. Khamenei remains alive to this day.) Again, a bit of basic research would have prevented all this, as this isn't the first time conservatives have treated this particular blogger's satire as if it were true.

Limbaugh noted later on in his show that it seemed the excerpts were fake, though he said he didn't care, both because of a series of quotes falsely attributed to him recently and because, "I know Obama thinks it."

Update: Ledeen has put up a post noting that the excerpt is a fake, and that he fell for a satire.

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#75. To: buckeroo (#72)

Earth to Bucky!

Earth to Bucky!

Can you read me Bucky?

Can you read?

See my #74 for additional clarity.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-10-24   15:18:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Original_Intent (#74)

Limbaugh does lots of research and so do his handlers at whatever PsyOp group he works for.

Yeah, Limbaugh begged for Iraq. And here you are, all twisted and grumpy that your leader is picked on.

His reported drug problems have hardly taken the edge off Rush Limbaugh. After his controversial suggestion last fall that the media were giving Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb a break because he's black, the conservative radio talker, 53, has lately drawn fire for remarks seeming to minimize Iraq's prison-abuse scandal. TIME's Richard Zoglin was last week's caller.

YOU'RE GETTING CRITICIZED FOR COMPARING THE PRISON ABUSE IN IRAQ WITH A COLLEGE PRANK. WERE YOU MISINTERPRETED?

I was totally misinterpreted and taken out of context. In a three-hour show, I would wager that two hours and 58 minutes were spent discussing the aspects of those photos that repulsed everybody, including me. The point I made was that this is not worth demeaning our entire war effort. And I think that these photos have been used as a political opportunity here by opponents and enemies of the President to discount the entire war in Iraq.

EVEN AL GORE JUMPED ON YOU LAST WEEK. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE NEW AL GORE?

I'm not convinced it's a new Gore. I think it's the same Gore that has always been around — unhinged. I'm sitting here, as a guy on the radio, and I'm listening to all of these different factions on the left do whatever they can to get me discredited, and I'm saying to myself, Why? I don't make policy. I am some guy on the radio, and I'm being targeted almost as much as the President is. I'm quite honored by it. I'm flattered.

YOU'VE GOT TO BE A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED ABOUT HOW THINGS HAVE TURNED OUT IN IRAQ.

Ah, a typical trick question to get me to criticize policy so that the left can say even Rush Limbaugh has problems with whatever. I am willing to acknowledge that things could go better in certain areas. But I'd rather focus on the positive. I think this is a valiant effort. I think the vision that's involved here is very important. War is filled with unpredictable things. We lost over 1,000 soldiers in a training mission for D-day. A training mission! If we had had the kind of scrutiny in World War II that we have today, we wouldn't have won it.

AS DEMOCRATS GO, HOW BAD IS JOHN KERRY?

Actually, Kerry is quite fun as a candidate. The fact is, they have to keep him hidden. Let's put it this way: the less he's on television, the better his numbers get. He's a charismatic dud.

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE AL FRANKEN LIBERAL RADIO NETWORK?

I have not heard them. I do not listen to anybody who does radio. I don't even listen to myself.

THE A.C.L.U. HAS SUPPORTED YOUR LEGAL FIGHT TO KEEP THE MEDICAL RECORDS IN YOUR DRUG CASE PRIVATE. THIS IS NOT A GROUP YOU'RE A FAN OF. DO YOU WELCOME ITS SUPPORT?

In a situation like this, I think it's safe to say I welcome its support, and I don't find it hypocritical at all, because I am not anti-A.C.L.U. If the A.C.L.U. wants to go after, say, Nativity scenes or this sort of thing, I may take issue, but there are other areas where I've supported things it has done.

THE FCC HAS CRACKED DOWN ON BROADCAST INDECENCY. DOES THAT BOTHER YOU?

I'm in the free-speech business, and indecency could be defined any number of ways, depending on who's in power. So it's a red flag to me. I am always concerned about it.

WHAT KIND OF SEASON IS DONOVAN MCNABB GONNA HAVE?

Let me just share with you what I read in a newspaper when the Eagles signed [receiver] Terrell Owens. They said now McNabb has no excuse. What happened after [my comments], I inoculated McNabb from any criticism the rest of the year because nobody, of course, could dare run the risk of agreeing with Rush Limbaugh. So whenever McNabb threw an interception, it was a receiver's fault or an offensive lineman's fault. He was incapable of making a mistake. He owes me a lot.

Concerning Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse, the fucker bent the rules begging to be nabbed as a traitor without principles.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:22:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Original_Intent (#74)

I [Limbaugh] was totally misinterpreted and taken out of context.

What a crock of shit.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:25:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#73)

Since your pal Rotar isn't very good at research, maybe you could dig up my pro-Obama comments yourself.

Kid, anyone on the Nest is an Obama Freak. Just deal with it.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   15:25:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Jethro Tull (#78)

Kid, anyone on the Nest is an Obama Freak. Just deal with it.

No, I prefer proof.

Why not provide it since you know it to be true about me?

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:27:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: buckeroo (#77)

My word, you're stupid...being drunk is no excuse. If you become stupid when you drink, you're still stupid. I think you're just stupid in general though...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   15:28:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#79)

I just did. Members of the Nest are Obama fallators, so please, suck deeply.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   15:30:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#79)

kind of like the kenyan's birthplace. the answer can never be made honestly by the puppet because he's living the lie.

you can't answer the question because it would incriminate you as the world kommie jock sniffer that you are.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   15:30:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Rotara (#80)

Mild accusations get you nowhere. Can't you lift up your skirt and pull down your panties so we can get some sparks flying?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:31:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Jethro Tull (#81)

I just did. Members of the Nest are Obama fallators, so please, suck deeply.

So you admit you can't do it.

I win. You're full of crap, just like Rotar.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:33:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: buckeroo (#83)

Mild accusations ?

You're a class A-1 disruptor with the spine of a jellyfish.

Were it NOT for alcohol, I doubt the world would have any clue as to HOW TRULY PATHETIC you are.

You run cover for your fellow travelers, while trying on occasion to legitimize your patriotic bona fides.

You're back on bozo because you're just tooo stooooopid...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-24   15:33:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Rotara (#85)

LOL .. hiding?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:35:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Rotara (#82)

you can't answer the question because it would incriminate you as the world kommie jock sniffer that you are.

You can't even get my posting history here right, yet you can divine out of thin air all kinds of libels.

Have you thought about getting a job with Orly. She doesn't pay well, but I understand she sleeps with the help.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:35:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#84)

Psst......DU is full of Ds. FR is full of Rs and the Nest is full of Obama Freaks. Couple that with your inability to answer a simple question and it leaves you, well, a Freak. See?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   15:37:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Jethro Tull (#88)

Couple that with your inability to answer a simple question and it leaves you, well, a Freak. See?

You weren't able to answer my simple question.

What does that make you, stubby?

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Jethro Tull (#88)

But you are a Limbaugh fan. It shows or otherwise characterizes the high level of intellect you personally wield. Next, you are voting Limbaugh as President to defeat 0bama in 2012.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:39:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: buckeroo, Jethro Tull, Rotara, ALL (#90)

Hey, all.

Want to watch something good unfold?

Pay attention to this thread.

I'm counting the minutes until it makes it's way to LP.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:42:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#91)

In a move that has the Plantiffs "amazingly overjoyed," Judge David O. Carter has turned down the Government’s motion for Dismissal in the case of Barnett vs. Obama.

"This is a victory for democracy and the people of America," Rancho Santa Margarita-based attorney Orly Taitz said after this morning’s early meeting in the Judge’s offices.

"This means that, come January, the President of the United States will be forced to come into this same courtroom and explain his massive fraud to the American people."

Taitz represents Capt. Pamela Barnett and other military officers who question orders from the commander in chief, as well as Presidential Candidate Alan Keyes. She has tried similar lawsuits elsewhere, but has failed, most recently in Georgia, where U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land not only rejected the lawsuit Taitz filed, but then fined her $20,000 for filing a "frivolous" appeal.

Taitz is joined in this lawsuit by Ramona-based lawyer Gary G. Kreep, who unsuccessfully tried to sever his case from hers.

"I’m astounded, quite frankly," Kreep commented. "I really thought, after the last Court session, that we weren’t going to get this far. I guess I should have given Judge Carter more credit than I did."

The case revolves around whether Obama was born in the United States. In the previous hearing, in which the Government presented its Motion to Dismiss the case, Carter seemed skeptical that a courtroom was the appropriate place for such a matter to be decided.

Department of Justice attorneys Roger West and David DeJute had argued that only Congress can remove a president through impeachment. The only way the courts could be involved was to have the chief justice of the Supreme Court preside over the impeachment trial.

Both West and DeJute refused to comment.

By WIRE SERVICES -- Story Published: Oct 23, 2009 at 8:50 PDT

This item is just breaking and I would consider it as "Not Verified." There are only a couple of sources on the Internet at the moment, and Taitz doesn't have a comment on her blog.

Another dead head website, headed by a money grubbing fool and articles that make no sense at all other than to inflate egos.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   15:45:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#91)

This is the Nest. This is where you post when not on LP. The Nest, as I said, is comprised of Obama fellators. Nobody but a leftist shill would post there

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   15:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: buckeroo (#92)

Another dead head website, headed by a money grubbing fool and articles that make no sense at all other than to inflate egos.

And fatten wallets.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-10-24   15:58:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: mininggold (#41)

But how is one to always know ahead of time just when history has been omitted?

One does'nt.

However long after the fact when there are quite apparent blank spaces in history, it is ones interest to find out what it was, and WHY it was omitted.

Abraham Lincoln is an outstanding example of omission.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-24   16:00:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: buckeroo (#77)

You're beating a dead horse Bucky.

Do you expect to provoke me into defending "Pills" Limbuggerer?

Fat chance. I despise the bloated chancre.

The only point of convergence is that Oh'bummer does have a lot of communist connections (as well as CIA like dear old Mom).

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-10-24   16:02:37 ET  (4 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Jethro Tull (#93)

This is the Nest. This is where you post when not on LP. The Nest, as I said, is comprised of Obama fellators. Nobody but a leftist shill would post there

I've heard that this is an anti-Semite site.

Does that mean that nobody but Nazis posts here?

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   16:02:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#97)

More deflection, Nestie....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   16:03:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Fred Mertz (#94)

And fatten wallets.

No, this is a joke posting to get the birthers all excited.

It worked for a while at FR; unfortunately no one at LP picked up on it.

Where are packrat and JoeSnuffy when you really need them?

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   16:05:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Jethro Tull (#98)

More deflection, Nestie...

You really don't understand your own posts, do you?

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   16:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#100)

I understand this; you refuse to answer a simple question about Obama and post on a forum with fellow Obama socialists. I understand why you didn't answer my initial question and now others reading this do also.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   16:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Original_Intent (#96)

... that the piece was planted with Limbaugh with the intent to help delegitimize questions regarding Oh'bummer. -- Original_Intent

Well, golly and gee whiz now, you are posing animated gif files. Shucks and gosh darn it. Ohh, you seem to pose some interesting stuff, though ... did you create those gif files? Or did you plagiarize them?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   16:12:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Jethro Tull (#101)

Apparently you don't understand that smearing people because of where they post works against you, too.

This is an anti-Semite site; therefore (using what passes for logic for you) you're a Nazi.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   16:14:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#103)

This is an anti-Semite site

Thank-you.

You're fully exposed.

You can go now.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   16:17:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: IDon'tThinkSo, Jethro tull (#103)

This is an anti-Semite site; therefore (using what passes for logic for you) you're a Nazi.

Let me correct you on that statement.

This forum is...a non semetic owned and operated site...

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-24   16:19:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Jethro Tull (#104)

Are you backing Limbaugh for the President position in 2012?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   16:19:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: buckeroo (#106)

Pills Limbought is as isolated and out of touch as the corporate elites he supports.

Does he even drive his own car?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-10-24   16:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Cynicom (#105)

He took far less cheese that some of the other RATS. Thank god for small favors.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-24   16:22:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Fred Mertz, Jethro Tull (#107)

He won't answer the question.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   16:23:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: buckeroo (#106)

Make that - Pills Limpbought.

Does he ever fly commercial?

Does he ever use the subway?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-10-24   16:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Jethro Tull (#104)

You're fully exposed.

You can go now.

Why?

I enjoy poking stupid people with sticks.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   16:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Jethro Tull (#108)

Jews and their limp wrist Goy enablers always finally out themselves.

There are a few at work here on this thread.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-24   16:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Cynicom (#112)

There are a few at work here on this thread.

So now I'm a Jew.

You clowns are too much. Really.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-10-24   16:26:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Fred Mertz (#110)

Does he ever fly commercial?

Does he ever use the subway?

Did you ever buy a POWER TIE?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-24   16:28:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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