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Title: Limbaugh Falls For A Hoax About The President's College Thesis
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Salon
URL Source: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/ ... /10/23/obama_thesis/index.html
Published: Oct 24, 2009
Author: Alex Koppelman
Post Date: 2009-10-24 12:45:41 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 24048
Comments: 199
On Friday, it seemed for a moment -- at least to Rush Limbaugh's listeners -- that the right had finally found the smoking gun to prove that President Obama secretly hates the U.S., its founders and even the Constitution. Limbaugh read his radio audience an excerpt from what he said was Obama's senior thesis, which he wrote while at Columbia University. After more than a year shrouded in secrecy by the Obama campaign and a compliant media, the thesis had finally emerged, and it was even worse than some had feared. The excerpt read by Limbaugh: [T]he Constitution allows for many things, but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believed that the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy. Limbaugh was, naturally, up in arms about this, calling the college-aged Obama a "little boy," and saying, "he still shares those same feelings." Only not so much. As a bit of basic research would have shown Limbaugh, Obama didn't technically write a thesis at Columbia -- at the time, Columbia didn't really have senior theses -- though he did write a thesis-length paper. But it was on Soviet nuclear disarmament, not the Constitution. Limbaugh and many others -- including Fox News' FoxNation.com -- fell for a hoax, believing that a post put up by a conservative blogger in August as satire was the truth. Apparently, Pajamas Media's Michael Ledeen was the conduit, as he dug it up and posted it earlier this week, apparently believing it to be true. (Not the first time Ledeen and Pajamas Media have been embarrassed by something he posted -- back in January of 2007, he reported that Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei had died. Khamenei remains alive to this day.) Again, a bit of basic research would have prevented all this, as this isn't the first time conservatives have treated this particular blogger's satire as if it were true. Limbaugh noted later on in his show that it seemed the excerpts were fake, though he said he didn't care, both because of a series of quotes falsely attributed to him recently and because, "I know Obama thinks it." Update: Ledeen has put up a post noting that the excerpt is a fake, and that he fell for a satire.
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#41. To: Cynicom (#37)
But how is one to always know ahead of time just when history has been omitted?
is this nester 4-play ??
Keep whacking him ... it is fun to watch.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
No, like "wow, so you're fucking LAME" and then "WOW, you're SO FUCKING LAME"
Nobody is defending Limbaugh. He's a distraction, especially on 4um where he is rejected by everyone. BS posted the article to be a distraction and the Nesting d'bag who chimed in is a mere, common, Obama shill who is incapable of answering a direct question.
keep whacking yourself, buck - you guys only whack each other.
Be easy on the kid. He's one step out of some university and laden with white guilt.
Ah, so now he's my hero. BTW, I'm sorry that you've got a small dick. On the positive side, it probably goes well with your tiny brain. Another diversionary tactic. Poor little Troll may be a paid and trained little troll. Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation 5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues. 18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
if he-she-it could find this site then he-she-it could read the truth. but no. Total bagger...bozo is too good for these klowns.
Anyone that rationalizes Limbaugh's silly mistakes is a political party HACK. You are worthless to this nation.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
the Kommunist trolls really believe !
Poor baby and here you thought you had the discussion well directed and on message. Just because that poster thinks Orly Taitz is a ditsy idiot he/she's an Obama supporter? lololol
Would that be similar to the diversionary tactic in post #2?
do you listen to limppills daily ? you think selling some guns makes you what...patriotic ?? you're a pussy, buck. you know it, i know it; we all know it.
Omitted history is the most important part of your post. IN this day and age there is NO excuse for people not filling in the obvious blanks on their own, other than...they are too intellectually lazy... AND TOO PROGRAMMED. I have gotten to the point that when I make a general statement based on history and someone imediately wants confirmation, source or whatever. I tell them, do your own reasearch, educate yourself. They accept it as the gospel that if they were not taught it at Harvard, then what do I know about it.. Fortunately for them I do not use bad language. My favorite example is a young "lady" who worked in the same building I do. I was relating a recent archaeologic discovery off of the coast of India (a city that blows the conventional timeline out of the water) and her response was that it couldn't be true because otherwise it would have been mentioned on CNN. In the face of such breathtaking ignorance I could thing of no suitable reply.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Klowns is right.
where have you been ? i don't think supports the obamalamadingdong program daily here on 4um.
I haven't listened to that POS since 1993 when he ran is TV show presenting Limbaugh Power Ties as smellable items to the lamers. Of course it is. Keep the country strong. ROTFL
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
A ten-pound sledgehammer couldn't break thru that amount of programming. Same with political oafs, as if we can't see walking bags of siht when we spot them.
It was a legitimate question based upon your response given your comment in #1. It helps to illustrate the points under examination. Of course you are again engaging in diversion and avoidance and such is duly noted. And again the reference: Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation 17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Sorry, but as usual you're full of shit. Before today, my last post was on the 18th. Before that it was the 13th. Before that it was the 6th. Time to get those meds checked. You're hallucinating.
A ten-pound sledgehammer couldn't break thru that amount of programming. Same with political oafs, as if we can't see walking bags of siht when we spot them. Sometimes all you can do is shake your head. The sheer amount of non-thought and vacant reasoning is stupefying. Yet, we have to continue given that some small percentage will be provoked to look to prove us wrong and "accidentally" discover that, if anything, we understate the problem and extent.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
It has nothing whatever to do with my comment in #1. Try reading it again. Here, I'll help you. Limbaugh doesn't do research. He reads what his staff hands him to read, then heads to the golf course. I fail to see what that has to do with Obama's czars because it has nothing at all to do with Obama's czars.
Why aren't you upset with Jethro and the Rotary Club when they use the same tactics? Or should I infer your ethics are situational?
Limbaugh has Mr. Snidley stuffing his stack-o stuff as research. That is good enough for Mr. Jethro Tull.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
That's because you're a Nester, a forum for partisan Obama fellators. Your time and energy is spent discussing matters of importance such as birth certificates, Orly, and Limbaugh. What I'm trying to say is 4um probably isn't for something like you. Please don't take it personal, I'm really here to help.
Your hero.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
BUMP
Have I said I approve? No, but most everyone slips once in a while and some more than others. However, they respond in kind generally only when provoked, and I have gently and indirectly chided Rotara once or twice, but I also understand where he is coming from and it is more a matter of frustration, and an unwillingness to "suffer fools gladly", which is different from "salting" a thread to derail it.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
I must say, I am rather dumbfounded that an article about a pill popping asswipe like Windbag Limbaugh can garner 70 responses on 4um. Who could be surprised that the fool falls for a hoax. He is a hoax.
Rationalizing Limbaugh ensures you are generically stamped a political GOP party HACK.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Since your pal Rotar isn't very good at research, maybe you could dig up my pro-Obama comments yourself. Or, if you can't, you can just keep showing your stupidity for all to see.
It has nothing whatever to do with my comment in #1. Try reading it again. Here, I'll help you. Limbaugh doesn't do research. He reads what his staff hands him to read, then heads to the golf course. I fail to see what that has to do with Obama's czars because it has nothing at all to do with Obama's czars. Am I defending the Mahajunkie? No. Limbaugh does lots of research and so do his handlers at whatever PsyOp group he works for. Because he is dishonest and in the business of manipulating his audience he will make "slips" such as this. Likely it was an intentionaly "slip" with the reverse action to give his "opposition" a handle to hold on to. Personally I don't listen to the bastard, grant him no credibility, and treat him with utter contempt and disdain.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Earth to Bucky! Earth to Bucky! Can you read me Bucky? Can you read? See my #74 for additional clarity.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Yeah, Limbaugh begged for Iraq. And here you are, all twisted and grumpy that your leader is picked on. His reported drug problems have hardly taken the edge off Rush Limbaugh. After his controversial suggestion last fall that the media were giving Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb a break because he's black, the conservative radio talker, 53, has lately drawn fire for remarks seeming to minimize Iraq's prison-abuse scandal. TIME's Richard Zoglin was last week's caller. YOU'RE GETTING CRITICIZED FOR COMPARING THE PRISON ABUSE IN IRAQ WITH A COLLEGE PRANK. WERE YOU MISINTERPRETED? I was totally misinterpreted and taken out of context. In a three-hour show, I would wager that two hours and 58 minutes were spent discussing the aspects of those photos that repulsed everybody, including me. The point I made was that this is not worth demeaning our entire war effort. And I think that these photos have been used as a political opportunity here by opponents and enemies of the President to discount the entire war in Iraq. EVEN AL GORE JUMPED ON YOU LAST WEEK. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE NEW AL GORE? I'm not convinced it's a new Gore. I think it's the same Gore that has always been around — unhinged. I'm sitting here, as a guy on the radio, and I'm listening to all of these different factions on the left do whatever they can to get me discredited, and I'm saying to myself, Why? I don't make policy. I am some guy on the radio, and I'm being targeted almost as much as the President is. I'm quite honored by it. I'm flattered. YOU'VE GOT TO BE A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED ABOUT HOW THINGS HAVE TURNED OUT IN IRAQ. Ah, a typical trick question to get me to criticize policy so that the left can say even Rush Limbaugh has problems with whatever. I am willing to acknowledge that things could go better in certain areas. But I'd rather focus on the positive. I think this is a valiant effort. I think the vision that's involved here is very important. War is filled with unpredictable things. We lost over 1,000 soldiers in a training mission for D-day. A training mission! If we had had the kind of scrutiny in World War II that we have today, we wouldn't have won it. AS DEMOCRATS GO, HOW BAD IS JOHN KERRY? Actually, Kerry is quite fun as a candidate. The fact is, they have to keep him hidden. Let's put it this way: the less he's on television, the better his numbers get. He's a charismatic dud. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE AL FRANKEN LIBERAL RADIO NETWORK? I have not heard them. I do not listen to anybody who does radio. I don't even listen to myself. THE A.C.L.U. HAS SUPPORTED YOUR LEGAL FIGHT TO KEEP THE MEDICAL RECORDS IN YOUR DRUG CASE PRIVATE. THIS IS NOT A GROUP YOU'RE A FAN OF. DO YOU WELCOME ITS SUPPORT? In a situation like this, I think it's safe to say I welcome its support, and I don't find it hypocritical at all, because I am not anti-A.C.L.U. If the A.C.L.U. wants to go after, say, Nativity scenes or this sort of thing, I may take issue, but there are other areas where I've supported things it has done. THE FCC HAS CRACKED DOWN ON BROADCAST INDECENCY. DOES THAT BOTHER YOU? I'm in the free-speech business, and indecency could be defined any number of ways, depending on who's in power. So it's a red flag to me. I am always concerned about it. WHAT KIND OF SEASON IS DONOVAN MCNABB GONNA HAVE? Let me just share with you what I read in a newspaper when the Eagles signed [receiver] Terrell Owens. They said now McNabb has no excuse. What happened after [my comments], I inoculated McNabb from any criticism the rest of the year because nobody, of course, could dare run the risk of agreeing with Rush Limbaugh. So whenever McNabb threw an interception, it was a receiver's fault or an offensive lineman's fault. He was incapable of making a mistake. He owes me a lot. “Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
What a crock of shit.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Kid, anyone on the Nest is an Obama Freak. Just deal with it.
No, I prefer proof. Why not provide it since you know it to be true about me?
My word, you're stupid...being drunk is no excuse. If you become stupid when you drink, you're still stupid. I think you're just stupid in general though...
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#42. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#38)
BTW, I'm sorry that you've got a small dick. On the positive side, it probably goes well with your tiny brain.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#43. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#40)
#44. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#40)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#45. To: buckeroo (#33)
#46. To: buckeroo (#43)
Keep whacking him ... it is fun to watch.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#47. To: Rotara (#42)
#48. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#38)
Now is that nice? All I asked is if your hero Obama
#49. To: Jethro Tull (#47)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#50. To: Rotara (#46)
#51. To: Original_Intent (#48)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#52. To: Jethro Tull, I Don't thinkso (#45)
Nobody is defending Limbaugh. He's a distraction, especially on 4um where he is rejected by everyone. BS posted the article to be a distraction and the Nesting d'bag who chimed in is a mere, common, Obama shill who is incapable of answering a direct question.
#53. To: Original_Intent (#48)
Another diversionary tactic.
#54. To: buckeroo (#50)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#55. To: Cynicom, Jethro Tull (#37)
Don't be too hard on poor ol' IDT - he comes from a generation that has been dumbed down, disinformed, misinformed, maniputlated constantly by skools and mediawhores, not informed by omitted history, etc.
#56. To: Rotara (#49)
#57. To: mininggold (#52)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#58. To: Rotara (#54)
do you listen to limppills daily ?
you think selling some guns makes you what...patriotic ??
you're a pussy, buck. you know it, i know it; we all know it.
#59. To: Original_Intent (#55)
and her response was that it couldn't be true because otherwise it would have been mentioned on CNN.
#60. To: IDon'tThinkSo, Jethro Tull, Rotara, all (#53)
#61. To: Rotara (#57)
where have you been ? i don't think supports the obamalamadingdong program daily here on 4um.
#62. To: Jethro Tull (#59)
and her response was that it couldn't be true because otherwise it would have been mentioned on CNN.
#63. To: Original_Intent (#60)
It was a legitimate question based upon your response given your comment in #1. It helps to illustrate the points under examination.
#64. To: Original_Intent, Jethro Tull, Rotara (#60)
#65. To: IDon'tThinkSo, Jethro Tull (#63)
Here, I'll help you. Limbaugh doesn't do research. He reads what his staff hands him to read, then heads to the golf course.
#66. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#61)
Before today, my last post was on the 18th. Before that it was the 13th. Before that it was the 6th
#67. To: Jethro Tull (#66)
Limbaugh
#68. To: Original_Intent (#62)
Sometimes all you can do is shake your head. The sheer amount of non-thought and vacant reasoning is stupefying. Yet, we have to continue given that some small percentage will be provoked to look to prove us wrong and "accidentally" discover that, if anything, we understate the problem and extent.
#69. To: mininggold (#64)
Why aren't you upset with Jethro and the Rotary Club when they use the same tactics? Or should I infer your ethics are situational?
#70. To: Jethro Tull (#68)
#71. To: Brian S (#0)
#72. To: Original_Intent (#69)
No, but most everyone slips once in a while and some more than others.
#73. To: Jethro Tull (#66)
That's because you're a Nester, a forum for partisan Obama fellators
#74. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#63)
It was a legitimate question based upon your response given your comment in #1. It helps to illustrate the points under examination.
#75. To: buckeroo (#72)
#76. To: Original_Intent (#74)
Limbaugh does lots of research and so do his handlers at whatever PsyOp group he works for.
Concerning Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse, the fucker bent the rules begging to be nabbed as a traitor without principles.
#77. To: Original_Intent (#74)
I [Limbaugh] was totally misinterpreted and taken out of context.
#78. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#73)
Since your pal Rotar isn't very good at research, maybe you could dig up my pro-Obama comments yourself.
#79. To: Jethro Tull (#78)
Kid, anyone on the Nest is an Obama Freak. Just deal with it.
#80. To: buckeroo (#77)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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