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Title: Karzai Challenger Calls for 'Dramatic Increase' in Troops in Afghanistan
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URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/200 ... c-increase-troops-afghanistan/
Published: Oct 25, 2009
Author: FoxNews
Post Date: 2009-10-25 20:09:30 by christine
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Views: 643
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Afghan President Hamid Karzai's top challenger called for a "dramatic increase" in troops to ensure security in his country, suggesting a failure to send in reinforcements could put Afghanistan "at risk" of falling to insurgents. "The need for more troops is there in order to reverse the situation," Abdullah Abdullah, who is expected to face off against Karzai in a runoff election in two weeks, told "Fox News Sunday." President Obama is deliberating over a request from his top commander for such an increase. He's weighing a call by Gen. Stanley McChrystal and other military officials for 40,000 more troops against calls to pursue a more surgical strategy aimed at top Al Qaeda leaders, particularly in Pakistan. But Abdullah did not say whether Obama is taking too long to determine whether to grant his top commander's request for more forces. "Even if the decision is made today it doesn't mean tomorrow we'll have troops on the ground. It will take time," he said. But he suggested that as long as Karzai is in power, the war effort will be hampered. "The Afghan side has not been able to deliver, and the Afghan side has been led by Mr. Karzai," Abdullah said. A runoff was ordered following findings of widespread fraud in the August election, much of which tilted in Karzai's favor. Abdullah told "Fox News Sunday" that he was not inclined to consent to a power-sharing agreement to avoid the second round. "I think I should rule it out, because I'm ready to go for a runoff," he said. But he still warned about the possibility that the runoff will bring with it even more fraud if key reforms are not made. Abdullah reportedly wants the leadership of the election commission replaced before the vote. "Perhaps we might have to go through the same sort of saga," he said. "It will make the situation very difficult if those conditions ... are not met." Abdullah warned that without assurances that the vote will be credible it will be difficult to convince voters to turn out. He did not say whether he would consider a boycott of the runoff if reforms are not made.
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#13. To: tom007 (#10)
Don't forget the more recent soviet invasion in 1979 AD. Of course the USSR doesn't exist anymore. They were drained dry by the economic costs for a sustained war.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
This is why Obama wants Karzai out via a new selection. Rather transparent, even for Os.
Nothing is transparent for O's.
True but the new puppet now says he wants more troops than Karzai. Just cant trust foreign puppets anymore.
The Soviets are very well aware we supplied stingers and Swiss AAircraft weapons to the mujahideen and it must be thought they are thrilled with the quagmire the New cons have swindled the US into. And I have no proof, but it is nearly impossible for me to believe that the the Rus are not supplying the area with material. That's what I would do, from their POV. The US bled the Rus in their fight against Islam extreamists, now it's their turn.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 0bama should seriously consider just getting out of Afghanistan. He should confess that his immediate predecessor was far from a commander in chief but a cheap charlatan whack-job like himself.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
The nightly snooze seems to think the Kenyan will, in time, satisfy
McKrystal's request of an additional 40k troop increase. The King of Peace
will do it in increments of 10K-15K so as not to startle the goofs and oafs
who still believe in Him.
The US bled the Rus in their fight against Islam extreamists, now it's their turn. Amen. He should confess that his immediate predecessor was far from a commander in chief but a cheap charlatan whack-job like himself. And Amen.
You are right on spot with one small change: it is unlikely Russia is supplying a dime to the Taliban; it is more likely Pakistan, Syria and Iran and many thousands of new freedom fighters from Iraq. Overall, the mid-east hates Americans. I don't recommend a vacation there with the family.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
And we will move deeper into the quagmire. We have people here trying to shift the blame off onto the military and McChrystal in particular. If they stop to think, this army can go nowhere if not funded by the Congress and ordered by the President. Good army or bad army I dont know, but put the blame where it belongs, the civilians in Washington DC that we elected.
That is the definition of a military dictatorship, which isn't correct. We have a civilian run military driven by the MIC. Has the MIC and the military and the congress all intermingled at some level? Sure, but make no mistake this is Obama's war(s), funded by congress, which is presently Democratically controlled. If that bothers some folks, they need to get over it and get on board the clue bus.
The House overwhelmingly passes each and every appropriations bill for continuation of this endless horrible war. They are all civilians that the voters elected. One hundred and thirty million voters cannot be wrong, we are wrong, the military is wrong, but not this fraud of a government.
If I'm not mistaken the Chairman of the Appropriations Committee is that sterling citizen from Harlem, Charlie Rangel. Surely a man of his intellect, honesty and integrity would only work in the best interest of this great nation.
0bama is just another coward NEVER serving the US military similar to your verbose radio icon, Rush Limbaugh; both are traitors to America.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
I think Ron Paul had a preferred sucker donor list that had our names on it and he passed it off to junior.
That queer-eyed, lying thief whose interest is only in lining his own pockets. That pic you share shows him to have filled his pockets to the extent he now is filling his gut. What a disgusting example of human flesh.
Calm down... Do you realize you are talking about the esteemed Congressman from New York???? One of these days such language will get you thrown in jail for not showing proper respect.
And, pray tell, what is it that I miss that deserves I respect that POS???
My hero remains Senator Benjamin Tillman. He overlooked the niceties of the Senate and resorted to fisticuffs to carry his point, not like the mealy mouthed slimes we have today.
bravo, BRAVO!!!!!!!!
Jethro... Does that mean we put Phant on the ....HATE RANGEL POS LIST?
You clap for someone's opinion about your picture of a clown? Why didn't you also place a picture of your icon, Rush Limbaugh another fat war hog?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Please do ... and put my name in BEEG letters and bold them, too!!!
O'boingo really needs to get you two into one of His Freedom & Liberty Camps and get to work on your bad attitudes.
Well young man, we will expect to see your smiling face not long after we are dragged away.
Phant has made the list and Esso is the administration's "reeducation camp" point man. Don't be angry with him, he needs to eat like the rest of us.
Well, with Esso and Phant we will be in good company in the gulag.
I'm looking forward to it. We'll finally get to meet face-to-face, take nice long showers together (homosexualty is natural, normal and healthy now), and sing happy songs around the camp pyre at night. Dreamy!
I ain't no queer ... nor am I lesbian. What else you gonna accuse me of???
Uhhhh, lets not get carried away with this liberal brain washing.
We have people here trying to shift the blame off onto the military and McChrystal in particular. If they stop to think, this army can go nowhere if not funded by the Congress and ordered by the President. Good army or bad army I dont know, but put the blame where it belongs, the civilians in Washington DC that we elected. You would have a point here if there was involuntary draft conscription, but the current military forces are all volunteers. As service volunteers they support, with extreme violence, the dominant political regime. By no stretch of the imagination could any minimally intelligent volunteer truly believe they are defenders of the constitution. In both the US and Israel, the dominant political regime aggressively promotes national and international democracy and Diversity. Obama has made this scheme plain obvious by appointing a diversity czar.
I would disagree with all of that. As a one time "volunteer" that served with draftees and other volunteers, I never met a man that wanted war. Not a one. Presently I have friends and family in the military, and I assure none of them want war. Not a one.
The military exists primarily to kill people and break things, on command from the president and congress. Refusal to do so is a very costly option. Any military person that doesn't understand this concept is delusional. The fact that someone is reluctant to go to war indicates they are rationally concerned about self and family and friends earthly preservation, but still confused about the true purpose of a military person.
The above is a self depiction of themselves by the Marines. All military forces in all countries are constituted for defense purposes only. Corrupt governments use them for ulterior offensive purposes. Ours in recent years has become a very corrupt government, one duly elected by the voters. The military can be disbanded any day the government decides to do so. Our army is NOT the Kwantung army.
Why Iran? The Sunni Taliban despise Iranian Shiites and vice versa. That's why Iran helped the US with intel, at least initially, re: Afghanistan, according to Tom Wilkinson, General Powell's aide. Have you considered it could be our boys from Langley playing good cop bad cop, playing the Taliban against NATO to prolong the war for MIC profits?
(Yet, my statement is still true for all military forces. The military is not social work nor is it police work. The primary methods of the military are lethal and overwhelming force.) All military forces in all countries are constituted for defense purposes only. (The military engages in both offensive strategies and tactics. Thats a fact.) Corrupt governments use them for ulterior offensive purposes. (True, but an offensive military strategy or tactic is not necessarily corrupt, despite your claim. For example, a credible threat can be legitimatly countered by an offensive showing of force.) Ours in recent years has become a very corrupt government, one duly elected by the voters. (The US and Israeli governments are identical in form and function, democracy and diversity. Corruption is embedded in the minds of the people that embrace diversity and democracy, which happens to be over 90% of the voting populace.) The military can be disbanded any day the government decides to do so. Our army is NOT the Kwantung army. (The constitution calls for a miltia and a navy.) The above is a self depiction of themselves by the Marines. (Yet, my statement is still true for all military forces. The military is not social work nor is it police work, where force is limited. The primary methods of the military are lethal and overwhelming force.) All military forces in all countries are constituted for defense purposes only. (The military engages in both offensive strategies and tactics. Thats a fact.) Corrupt governments use them for ulterior offensive purposes. (True, but an offensive military strategy or tactic is not necessarily corrupt, despite your claim. For example, a credible threat can be legitimatly countered by an offensive showing of force.) Ours in recent years has become a very corrupt government, one duly elected by the voters. (The US and Israeli governments are identical in form and function, composed of democracy and diversity politics. Corruption is embedded in the minds of the people that embrace diversity and democracy, which happens to be over 90% of the voting populace.) The military can be disbanded any day the government decides to do so. Our army is NOT the Kwantung army. (The US constitution explicitly calls out for a militia-national guard and a navy. The military cannot be constitutionally disbanded, especially with the democracy-diversity cult firmly entrenched in US-Israeli politics. Since jews leaders and GLBT perverts created the diversity cult, and judaism is a war- based culture, a strong military will always be demanded by diversity mavens.)
I see you agree.
Too bad he can't hook up with "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman"
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
I'll put the blame where Eisenhower prophesied it should go: Less than three years later, the MIC fired the shots heard 'round the world proving who REALLY was in control. It wasn't JFK, as his brains briefly realized as they were flying out of his shattered skull. That Vietnam escalation was REALLY IMPORTANT to them, as was the preservation of the CIA, which Kennedy had vowed to break into a thousand pieces. Instead, his brain did that.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
LOL !! Yeah, boooosh and DICK (nor their best buddies and business partners, the bin Laden FAMILY) had ANY IDEA where their CIA asset was hiding out. Ha Ha Ha buck. "The 911 Illegal Shadow Government Official Story®" bump
The MIC is out of business tomorrow if congress refuses to fund war.
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#14. To: All (#0)
#15. To: Jethro Tull (#14)
#16. To: Jethro Tull (#14)
This is why Obama wants Karzai out via a new selection.
#17. To: buckeroo (#13)
Don't forget the more recent soviet invasion in 1979 AD.
#18. To: Jethro Tull (#14)
#19. To: Cynicom, Lod, all (#16)
#20. To: tom007, buckeroo, all (#17)
#21. To: tom007 (#17)
#22. To: Jethro Tull (#19)
The King of Peace will do it in increments of 10K-15K so as not to startle the goofs and oafs who voted for Him.
#23. To: Cynicom (#22)
We have people here trying to shift the blame off onto the military and McChrystal in particular.
#24. To: Jethro Tull (#23)
but make no mistake this is Obama's war(s), funded by congress, which is presently Democratically controlled.
#25. To: Cynicom (#24)
The House overwhelmingly passes each and every appropriations bill for continuation of this endless horrible war
#26. To: Jethro Tull (#23)
#27. To: Jethro Tull (#23)
#28. To: Jethro Tull (#25)
Charlie Rangel.. a man of ... intellect, honesty and integrity would only work in the best interest of this great nation.
#29. To: Phant2000 (#28)
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What a disgusting example of human flesh.
#30. To: Cynicom (#29)
One of these days such language will get you thrown in jail for not showing proper respect.
#31. To: Phant2000, Jethro Tull (#28)
That pic you share shows him to have filled his pockets to the extent he now is filling his gut.
#32. To: Phant2000 (#28)
That queer-eyed, lying thief whose interest is only in lining his own pockets. That pic you share shows him to have filled his pockets to the extent he now is filling his gut. What a disgusting example of human flesh.
#33. To: Jethro Tull, Phant2000 (#32)
bravo, BRAVO!!!!!!!!
#34. To: Jethro Tull (#32)
#35. To: Cynicom (#33)
Does that mean we put Phant on the ....HATE RANGEL POS LIST?
#36. To: Cynicom, Jethro Tull (#24)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#37. To: Esso (#36)
O'boingo really needs to get you two into one of His Freedom & Liberty Camps and get to work on your bad attitudes.
#38. To: Cynicom, Phant, Esso (#33)
#39. To: Jethro Tull, Esso, Phant2000 (#38)
Phant has made the list and Esso is the administration's "reeducation camp" point man.
#40. To: Cynicom (#37)
(Edited)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#41. To: Esso (#40)
...(homosexualty is natural, normal and healthy now) ...
#42. To: Esso (#40)
(homosexualty is natural, normal and healthy now),
#43. To: Cynicom (#22)
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And we will move deeper into the quagmire.
#44. To: Googolplex (#43)
As service volunteers they support, with extreme violence, the dominant political regime. By no stretch of the imagination could any minimally intelligent volunteer truly believe they are defenders of the constitution.
#45. To: Cynicom (#44)
#46. To: Googolplex (#45)
The military exists primarily to kill people and break things, on command from the president and congress.
#47. To: buckeroo (#21)
(Edited)
it is more likely Pakistan, Syria and Iran and many thousands of new freedom fighters from Iraq.
#48. To: Cynicom (#46)
The above is a self depiction of themselves by the Marines.
#49. To: Googolplex (#48)
#50. To: christine (#0)
Abdullah Abdullah
#51. To: Cynicom (#22)
Put the blame where it belongs, the civilians in Washington DC that we elected
#52. To: buckeroo (#7)
(Edited)
America lost when GWBush didn't keep his eye on the ball tracking down Osama bin Laden.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#53. To: Sam Houston (#51)
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