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Title: Karzai Challenger Calls for 'Dramatic Increase' in Troops in Afghanistan
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URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/200 ... c-increase-troops-afghanistan/
Published: Oct 25, 2009
Author: FoxNews
Post Date: 2009-10-25 20:09:30 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 683
Comments: 59

Afghan President Hamid Karzai's top challenger called for a "dramatic increase" in troops to ensure security in his country, suggesting a failure to send in reinforcements could put Afghanistan "at risk" of falling to insurgents.

"The need for more troops is there in order to reverse the situation," Abdullah Abdullah, who is expected to face off against Karzai in a runoff election in two weeks, told "Fox News Sunday."

President Obama is deliberating over a request from his top commander for such an increase. He's weighing a call by Gen. Stanley McChrystal and other military officials for 40,000 more troops against calls to pursue a more surgical strategy aimed at top Al Qaeda leaders, particularly in Pakistan.

But Abdullah did not say whether Obama is taking too long to determine whether to grant his top commander's request for more forces.

"Even if the decision is made today it doesn't mean tomorrow we'll have troops on the ground. It will take time," he said. But he suggested that as long as Karzai is in power, the war effort will be hampered.

"The Afghan side has not been able to deliver, and the Afghan side has been led by Mr. Karzai," Abdullah said.

A runoff was ordered following findings of widespread fraud in the August election, much of which tilted in Karzai's favor. Abdullah told "Fox News Sunday" that he was not inclined to consent to a power-sharing agreement to avoid the second round.

"I think I should rule it out, because I'm ready to go for a runoff," he said.

But he still warned about the possibility that the runoff will bring with it even more fraud if key reforms are not made. Abdullah reportedly wants the leadership of the election commission replaced before the vote.

"Perhaps we might have to go through the same sort of saga," he said. "It will make the situation very difficult if those conditions ... are not met."

Abdullah warned that without assurances that the vote will be credible it will be difficult to convince voters to turn out. He did not say whether he would consider a boycott of the runoff if reforms are not made.

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#14. To: All (#0)

This is why Obama wants Karzai out via a new selection. Rather transparent, even for Os.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-25   20:45:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

This is why Obama wants Karzai out via a new selection.

True but the new puppet now says he wants more troops than Karzai.

Just cant trust foreign puppets anymore.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-25   20:47:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom, Lod, all (#16)

The nightly snooze seems to think the Kenyan will, in time, satisfy McKrystal's request of an additional 40k troop increase. The King of Peace will do it in increments of 10K-15K so as not to startle the goofs and oafs who still believe in Him.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-25   20:56:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Jethro Tull (#19)

The King of Peace will do it in increments of 10K-15K so as not to startle the goofs and oafs who voted for Him.

And we will move deeper into the quagmire.

We have people here trying to shift the blame off onto the military and McChrystal in particular.

If they stop to think, this army can go nowhere if not funded by the Congress and ordered by the President.

Good army or bad army I dont know, but put the blame where it belongs, the civilians in Washington DC that we elected.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-25   21:03:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Cynicom (#22) (Edited)

And we will move deeper into the quagmire.

We have people here trying to shift the blame off onto the military and McChrystal in particular.

If they stop to think, this army can go nowhere if not funded by the Congress and ordered by the President.

Good army or bad army I dont know, but put the blame where it belongs, the civilians in Washington DC that we elected.

You would have a point here if there was involuntary draft conscription, but the current military forces are all volunteers.

As service volunteers they support, with extreme violence, the dominant political regime. By no stretch of the imagination could any minimally intelligent volunteer truly believe they are defenders of the constitution.

In both the US and Israel, the dominant political regime aggressively promotes national and international democracy and Diversity. Obama has made this scheme plain obvious by appointing a diversity czar.

www.youtube.com/watch? v=ovnwzMJf09o&feature=related

Googolplex  posted on  2009-10-25   22:38:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Googolplex (#43)

As service volunteers they support, with extreme violence, the dominant political regime. By no stretch of the imagination could any minimally intelligent volunteer truly believe they are defenders of the constitution.

I would disagree with all of that.

As a one time "volunteer" that served with draftees and other volunteers, I never met a man that wanted war. Not a one.

Presently I have friends and family in the military, and I assure none of them want war. Not a one.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-10-25   22:53:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Cynicom (#44)

The military exists primarily to kill people and break things, on command from the president and congress. Refusal to do so is a very costly option.

Any military person that doesn't understand this concept is delusional.

The fact that someone is reluctant to go to war indicates they are rationally concerned about self and family and friends earthly preservation, but still confused about the true purpose of a military person.

Googolplex  posted on  2009-10-25   23:19:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#46. To: Googolplex (#45)

The military exists primarily to kill people and break things, on command from the president and congress.

The above is a self depiction of themselves by the Marines.

All military forces in all countries are constituted for defense purposes only.

Corrupt governments use them for ulterior offensive purposes. Ours in recent years has become a very corrupt government, one duly elected by the voters.

The military can be disbanded any day the government decides to do so. Our army is NOT the Kwantung army.

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