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Title: Hitchens: Christianity Is A Fraud If It’s Not Literally True
Source: RAW STORY
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/2009/10/hitchens-christianity-fraud/
Published: Oct 26, 2009
Author: By David Edwards and Daniel Tencer
Post Date: 2009-10-26 11:32:20 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 3336
Comments: 98

If the story of Jesus Christ isn't literally true, then Christianity is a fraud that promotes "a positively wicked doctrine," conservative writer Christopher Hitchens told Fox & Friends Monday morning.

Hitchens, an avowed atheist whose 2007 book God is Not Great attempts to divorce conservatism from religious teachings, discussed the role of religion in American society in the wake of a recent study (PDF) that shows the number of Americans who claim no religious affiliation has roughly doubled in the past two decades, from 8.2 percent in 1990 to 15 percent in 2008.

The study, conducted by Trinity College in Hartford, Connecticut, predicts that a full one-quarter of Americans will have no religious affiliation by 2028. The study notes that the number of non-believers among younger people is considerably higher than among older people, suggesting that the trend of Americans growing less religious will continue in coming years.

Those people who claim no religious affiliation are "not all atheists by any means," Hitchens told host Gretchen Carlson. "They're just people who don't attend a church, don't have a faith. I think it's fair to call them agnostics. The number of people, like myself, who think religion is false, that it's a delusion and that it's bad for you, is still pretty small."

Hitchens said Americans are increasingly turning against organized religion "because they want to push back against theocracy and the parties of God and the awful challenge they pose to us internationally."

"By the way, your side seems to be winning in public schools, at least across America," Carlson told Hitchens.

Hitchens appeared on Fox with pastor Douglas Wilson, who appeared along with Hitchens in the recent documentary Collision, which explores the battle of ideas between the religious and the non-religious.

The two came to an unexpected agreement on one issue: They both attacked the notion, popular among some secular thinkers, that Christianity is a socially positive thing even if it's not true.

"If Jesus didn't come back from the dead, then Christianity is appalling, it's an appalling fraud and delusion and every unbeliever should attack it," Wilson said. "Christianity is not good for the world because it makes people decent and sober and that sort of thing. At the end of the day, if it's not true, if it's not objectively true, then I don't have any more use for it than Christopher does."

Hitchens echoed that idea, but made it clear he does actually consider Christianity a fraud.

"They say, well the Bible story's not really true, they're morality tales. Don't listen to it, because if it's based on a fraud, if the virgin birth and the resurrection and the miracles did not occur, which they did not, then those teachings are immoral, they teach that sins can be forgiven by throwing them on to a scapegoat -- a positively wicked doctrine."

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Hitchens: Christianity Is A Fraud If It’s Not Literally True

Sounds like he's trying to paraphrase Paul. LOL! What I find funny is how a confessed liberal is admired by conservatives today all because he is pro-war. Forget the fact that prior to baby Bush he was considered an enemy because of his big government beliefs. I never would have thought I'd see the day when a life long liberal would be able to use his popularity among the supposed conservative movement to "attempt to divorce conservatism from religious teachings." If he had tried this 20 years ago, he would be pissing in the wind and no one would read his book or give him any publicity, yet now he's on Fox. LOL! We are living in Bizarro world. Where the fuck is Superman to take us back?

It is no wonder people turn their backs on this sham called Christianity. Look at those who claim to be Christians today. The majority are blood dancing sociopaths filled with hate and loathing for their fellow man. Just read the comments of the proclaimed Christians on TOS2. Sweetjustice, Bob Celeste, David Ben Ariel, JoeSnuffy, rifle22. These people can't get enough of other people's blood. They want to kill, kill, kill everyone and everything. Nuke the whole fucking world. Of course, being cowards, they leave the killing to others. Never would they ever do it themselves, so their blood lust will never be satisfied. As someone who lives in the Southern Baptist Bible belt as well as an Assembly of God and evangelical stronghold, I can tell you from first hand experience that those before mentioned people are not uncommon within the Christian ranks. On the contrary, they are the rule, not the exception. Those so-called Christian denominations are FILLED with blood dancers.

Then you have those who try to use the Bible to justify forced income redistribution upon us all. People like Destro, or Vicomte13. They somehow forget, or refuse to admit, that the very same Bible says that any giving should be voluntary and completely up to those doing the giving. Never does their God tell the Apostles to use the force of government to steal from one group in order to give to another, whether that other be the poor (who receive very little or the largess) or the government bureaucrats (who receive the majority of the ill-gotten booty). Oh, and if you disagree, then you are a "bad Christian."

More and more people are waking up to this fraud. Unfortunately, at least for those of us that cherish the freedom and liberty envisioned by out founding fathers, people appear to be replacing the worship of the Christian God with the worship of government.

There appears to be no answer. IMHO, the "great experiment" has failed. There is a reason that the majority of humanity was subjugated to serf status throughout history. Man is not able to live in freedom and liberty. Not because he cannot, but because he refuses to. It's too much responsibility for most and because they cannot handle the responsibility, they do not want those who CAN handle it to have it.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-10-26   15:43:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Hayek Fan (#15)

What I find funny is how a confessed liberal is admired by conservatives today all because he is pro-war. Forget the fact that prior to baby Bush he was considered an enemy because of his big government beliefs.

He was a writer of the hard Left. Back during the Xlinton years, now and then he'd poke fun at Xlinton or some lib and they'd just adore him over at TOS1. Same as with Andrew "Milky Loads" Sullivan until a few of us posted links to his online nude ads where he was trying to find men to have AIDS-sex with him.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-10-26   17:32:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: TooConservative (#25)

He was a writer of the hard Left. Back during the Xlinton years, now and then he'd poke fun at Xlinton or some lib and they'd just adore him over at TOS1.

I know exactly who and what he is. Unlike the Republitards pretending to be conservatives, I didn't change my opinion of him just because he championed a cause I believed in. He's a one time admitted socialist who morphed into a committed globalist. He is an enemy of everything the founder fathers believed in so it comes as no surprise that the Republtards at TOS1 adore him. Why shouldn't they adore him when their leadership is enthralled with people like Leon Trotsky and Leo Strauss. Grassroots Republitards and their leadership fit together like milk and cookies.

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