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Title: Tax refugees staging escape from New York
Source: NEW YORK POST
URL Source: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/ ... pe_from_qb4pItQ71UXIc0i6cd3UpK
Published: Oct 27, 2009
Author: ANDY SOLTIS
Post Date: 2009-10-27 10:30:39 by noone222
Keywords: None
Views: 736
Comments: 38

New Yorkers are fleeing the state and city in alarming numbers -- and costing a fortune in lost tax dollars, a new study shows.

More than 1.5 million state residents left for other parts of the United States from 2000 to 2008, according to the report from the Empire Center for New York State Policy. It was the biggest out-of-state migration in the country.

The vast majority of the migrants, 1.1 million, were former residents of New York City -- meaning one out of seven city taxpayers moved out.

"The Empire State is being drained of an invaluable resource -- people," the report said.

What's worse is that the families fleeing New York are being replaced by lower-income newcomers, who consequently pay less in taxes.

Overall, the ex-New Yorkers earn about 13 percent more than those who moved into the state, the study found.

And it should be no surprise that the city -- and Manhattan in particular -- suffered the biggest loss in terms of taxable income.

The average Manhattan taxpayer who left the state earned $93,264 a year. The average newcomer to Manhattan earned only $72,726.

That's a difference of $20,538, the highest for any county in the state. Staten Island was second, with a $20,066 difference.

It all adds up to staggering loss in taxable income. During 2006-2007, the "migration flow" out of New York to other states amounted to a loss of $4.3 billion.

The study used annual US Census reports, which showed which states had increased population, combined with Internal Revenue Service data, which show which states, cities and counties had lost people.

While New York City and the state were the losers, the Sunshine and Garden States were winners. more than 250,000 New Yorkers who lived in and around the city fled to Florida. Another 172,000 city taxpayers ended up in New Jersey.

Why all the moving vans?

The center, part of the conservative Manhattan Institute, blames the state's high cost of living and high taxes.

The study also revealed surprising details about how city residents moved from borough to borough.

Manhattan lost 64,480 taxpayers, and more than half -- 34,383 -- went to The Bronx.

Brooklyn lost 68,951 taxpayers -- including 43,688 who went to Staten Island.

The study also had some good news. The peak loss of New Yorkers was in 2005, when nearly 250,000 residents left the state. But last year, only 126,000 left, the lowest figure over the eight-year period.

andy.soltis@nypost.com


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Please do not IMMIGRATE to Texas !

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#5. To: noone222 (#0)

Please do not IMMIGRATE to Texas !

my first thought too. we've got enough of our share of "immigrants."

christine  posted on  2009-10-27   11:01:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine, noone222 (#5)

Hey now! We've considered relocating to Texas (from Ohio). What's not to like about a family of higly educated libertarian professionals?

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-27   11:07:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: SonOfLiberty (#8)

Come on down, brother!

You'll forget them Buckeye blues in the Texas sunshine.

randge  posted on  2009-10-27   11:12:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: randge, noone22 (#9)

Serious question, how is the secessionist movement/sentiment progressing there? The toss up for us is between New Hampshire and Texas, with a strong advantage to Texas. First because it's not located on the east coast (hate that accent, and we'd be surrounded in NH) and second because Texas is sounding like it's yelling louder and louder for secession.

I actually wasn't kidding, and have mentioned it on other boards, we're really interested in pulling up stakes and going to Texas.

Ohio is great, as far as people go, very friendly. The biggest anti-government movements right now are coming from two places, Ohio and Texas. Of the two, Texas is going to win, Ohio is going to be consumed (in my estimation).

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-27   11:17:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: SonOfLiberty. all (#11)

Texas is a good place to be.

Lod  posted on  2009-10-27   11:29:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Lod (#17)

Indiddly do it is. You'll have to excuse our monotone midwest accents, but otherwise we'd fit in like a baby in a blanket. Plus, we come pre-armed with a large array of firearms (Ohio is still very gun friendly).

How is the economy there anyway (serious question)? Not wanting to live around Dallas or any really large city.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-27   11:34:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: SonOfLiberty. all (#18)

From our State Comptroller - good information and outlook -

www.texasahead.org/economy/outlook.html

Central Texas is faring much better than are some other parts of the country.

Lod  posted on  2009-10-27   13:48:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Lod (#20) (Edited)

Looking at the site now, thanks for the link!

Yeah, central seems to be the best place to be. The ocean facing coasts seem too risky hurricane wise, and the panhandle used to be a haven of near poverty when I lived there in the mid 1980's.

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