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Title: Tax refugees staging escape from New York
Source: NEW YORK POST
URL Source: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/ ... pe_from_qb4pItQ71UXIc0i6cd3UpK
Published: Oct 27, 2009
Author: ANDY SOLTIS
Post Date: 2009-10-27 10:30:39 by noone222
Keywords: None
Views: 706
Comments: 38

New Yorkers are fleeing the state and city in alarming numbers -- and costing a fortune in lost tax dollars, a new study shows.

More than 1.5 million state residents left for other parts of the United States from 2000 to 2008, according to the report from the Empire Center for New York State Policy. It was the biggest out-of-state migration in the country.

The vast majority of the migrants, 1.1 million, were former residents of New York City -- meaning one out of seven city taxpayers moved out.

"The Empire State is being drained of an invaluable resource -- people," the report said.

What's worse is that the families fleeing New York are being replaced by lower-income newcomers, who consequently pay less in taxes.

Overall, the ex-New Yorkers earn about 13 percent more than those who moved into the state, the study found.

And it should be no surprise that the city -- and Manhattan in particular -- suffered the biggest loss in terms of taxable income.

The average Manhattan taxpayer who left the state earned $93,264 a year. The average newcomer to Manhattan earned only $72,726.

That's a difference of $20,538, the highest for any county in the state. Staten Island was second, with a $20,066 difference.

It all adds up to staggering loss in taxable income. During 2006-2007, the "migration flow" out of New York to other states amounted to a loss of $4.3 billion.

The study used annual US Census reports, which showed which states had increased population, combined with Internal Revenue Service data, which show which states, cities and counties had lost people.

While New York City and the state were the losers, the Sunshine and Garden States were winners. more than 250,000 New Yorkers who lived in and around the city fled to Florida. Another 172,000 city taxpayers ended up in New Jersey.

Why all the moving vans?

The center, part of the conservative Manhattan Institute, blames the state's high cost of living and high taxes.

The study also revealed surprising details about how city residents moved from borough to borough.

Manhattan lost 64,480 taxpayers, and more than half -- 34,383 -- went to The Bronx.

Brooklyn lost 68,951 taxpayers -- including 43,688 who went to Staten Island.

The study also had some good news. The peak loss of New Yorkers was in 2005, when nearly 250,000 residents left the state. But last year, only 126,000 left, the lowest figure over the eight-year period.

andy.soltis@nypost.com


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#1. To: noone222 (#0)

New Yorkers are fleeing the state and city in alarming numbers -- and costing a fortune in lost tax dollars, a new study shows.

More than 1.5 million state residents left for other parts of the United States from 2000 to 2008, according to the report from the Empire Center for New York State Policy. It was the biggest out-of-state migration in the country.

The vast majority of the migrants, 1.1 million, were former residents of New York City -- meaning one out of seven city taxpayers moved out.

"The Empire State is being drained of an invaluable resource -- people," the report said.

What's worse is that the families fleeing New York are being replaced by lower-income newcomers, who consequently pay less in taxes.

This is what happens when a third world cesspool is created.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-10-27   10:33:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: PaulCJ, noone222 (#1)

New Yorkers are fleeing the state and city in alarming numbers -- and costing a fortune in lost tax dollars, a new study shows.

More than 1.5 million state residents left for other parts of the United States from 2000 to 2008, according to the report from the Empire Center for New York State Policy. It was the biggest out-of-state migration in the country.

The vast majority of the migrants, 1.1 million, were former residents of New York City -- meaning one out of seven city taxpayers moved out.

"The Empire State is being drained of an invaluable resource -- people," the report said.

What's worse is that the families fleeing New York are being replaced by lower-income newcomers, who consequently pay less in taxes.

This is what happens when a third world cesspool is created.

This is what happens when a state raises taxes to the point that it makes it worth people's while to move elsewhere in their own best interests.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-10-27   15:09:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Original_Intent (#34)

This is what happens when a state raises taxes to the point that it makes it worth people's while to move elsewhere in their own best interests.

I believe they call it voting with one's feet.

Critter  posted on  2009-10-27   21:56:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Critter (#36)

This is what happens when a state raises taxes to the point that it makes it worth people's while to move elsewhere in their own best interests.

I believe they call it voting with one's feet.

Well, when you can go somewhere else and earn less gross but have more take-home you may name it as you will. The bottom line is that under a regime of confiscatory taxation, as in New York, sane people eventually reach a point where they say "no more" and leave. California is experiencing a similar drain - of both people and businesses. As Economist Arthur Laffer pointed out more than 20 years ago at some point "X" taxes have been raised to the point where continuing to raise them results in lower tax collections. At 100% you receive zero collections because it is no longer in anyone's interest to work or produce and all economic activity goes "underground". Excessive taxation removes the incentive to work, as in all socialist systems where unequal rewards exist i.e., the less productive receive the same as the more productive. When you reward non-production you get non-production. Productive people who gain no reward for their extra work cease to work with the same fervor. And punitive taxation which punishes production results in people either becoming indifferent to earning a little more or, as in this case, they move to where the economic system does not punish them as severely for being productive.

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