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Title: WHY CANADIANS ARE LAUGHING AT US
Source: news.yahoo.com
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucrr/200910 ... rr/whycanadiansarelaughingatus
Published: Oct 30, 2009
Author: Richard Reeves
Post Date: 2009-10-30 20:57:26 by Destro
Keywords: Canada
Views: 764
Comments: 63

WHY CANADIANS ARE LAUGHING AT US

By Richard Reeves Richard Reeves

AUSTIN, Texas -- A guy walks up to you in a bar here and asks, "Are you a Republican, conservative or independent?" You can't tell if he's kidding. After all, this is the most liberal place in the state. It's also where I first heard about Shona Holmes, the Canadian lady.

Holmes, a 45-year-old citizen of a place called Waterdown in Ontario, has become the Joan of Arc of the battle against health care reform in the United States. As she tells it, OHIP, the acronym for the "free" (taxes pay for it) Canadian health care system, sentenced her to burn at the stake by putting her on a waiting list for analysis and treatment of what she calls a "brain tumor." Actually, it was a benign cyst near the brain. The technical name is Rathke's cleft cyst, a fluid-filled sac that grows near the pituitary gland. It can be painful and affect vision, but it is not life-threatening.

A group called Patients United Now -- "people just like you," says its Web site -- is sponsoring television commercials featuring Shona Holmes in all 50 states. (I don't know if he is just like me, but an industrialist named David Koch is the principal financier of the Holmes campaign.) She is traveling our country making speeches and television appearances comparing the Canadian system to the Inquisition, saying she would have died waiting to see a doctor in her country. Instead, she says, she mortgaged her house, borrowed from neighbors, crossed the border and had the cyst removed at the Mayo Clinic in Arizona. Cost: $95,000.

She seems to be, right now, the most hated woman in Canada. Newspapers are defending OHIP; bloggers are saying if she doesn't like Canada she can (and should) get out. A few voices are calling for Holmes to be deported. The Ottawa Citizen called her "disgusting."

Canadians apparently love their system. A columnist for the Calgary Sun, Stephen Lautens, attended a conservative forum in Florida and sent back this report:

"When hearing the horrors of the Canadian health-care system being described last weekend, all I could do was wince. ... 'Would (you) like to speak to a real, live Canadian about our health care,' I asked (two ladies in a bar)?

"'Can you pick your own doctor?' was the first question. 'Because we hear the government assigns you a doctor in Canada.'

"You indeed pick your own doctor, I assured them. ... It was also not true, I said, that it takes months to see your doctor. Mine complains she doesn't see me enough. There are gaps in our system, I confessed, where there are unacceptable wait lists for some kinds of surgery -- hips and knees and other things in demand.

"'What's your health-care premium?' they wanted to know. They quoted theirs as being a couple thousand dollars a month. Their jaws dropped when I told them there really isn't one and everyone is covered from birth.

"At this point, a small crowd had gathered around me at the bar to hear the Canadian tell his magical tale of health-care coverage. I told the story of breaking my shoulder in a fall, having one of the best shoulder specialists in Canada put it back together, a few days at the hospital and nine months of physiotherapy. The cost?

"Thirty-five dollars, because the sling I went home in wasn't covered."

The "disgusting" thing from an American perspective is the low level of the health-care debate. Or is it the gullibility of millions of Americans? The Senate Republican leader, Mitch McConnell, along with Fox News, has used the Shona Holmes story to attack health-care reform. True or not, it is interesting stuff, except for one thing: The American reforms being discussed are not at all like the Canadian single-payer system.

So, Canadians, with longer, healthier lives, are yelling at Shona Holmes and laughing at us.


Poster Comment:

This kind of false campaign of half truths has become the standard propaganda tactic for the right these last 8 years. It counts on those these campaigns are aimed at buying the lie by these oligarchs like the Koch family hook, line and sinker.

Another example is to make up horror stories of the UK's socialist health care system which in reality - as bad as it is - the worst in Europe - still produces healthier population than the American system and costs less.

Read it here:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/42717.php

The British Are Much Healthier Than The Americans

Article Date: 03 May 2006 - 8:00 PDT

A large study, which looked at the health of middle class, middle-aged, white residents in both the USA and Britain found that the British enjoy much better health than their American counterparts. Even though the USA has a much higher income per capita than the UK, about 25% higher, the British are far ahead when it comes to the health of its residents.

Americans also spend a great deal more on health care than the British do. The average expenditure per head per year on health in the UK is $2,164, while in the USA it stands at $5,274.

You can read about this study in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), May 3 Issue.

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So I would like to know why the right wing falls for such disinfo campaigns by hidden sources like the Kochs?

Read about the Koch family @ http://exiledonline.com/tea-bagger-closet-cases-then-now-jfk-faced-exact-same-accusations-as-obama/

Koch Family & The Tea Bagger Loonies 1961-2009: JFK Faced Exact Same Crazy Rightwing Billionaire Family As Obama

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#2. To: Destro (#0) (Edited)

"At this point, a small crowd had gathered around me at the bar to hear the Canadian tell his magical tale of health-care coverage."

Yes, the ever-so-enlightened Canadian brings down the truth from the mountain- top to the ignorant peasants in the Lower 48. I've read similar lines from hundreds of stories written by liberals that later turn out to be unverified lies made up to pacify a "progressive" audience.

P.S. Canada offers nothing but unending treachery from a zionazi-government that crucifies white people and Christianity and demonizes gun-owners at every turn.

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#3. To: X-15 (#2)

I have no idea what you wrote.

Destro  posted on  2009-10-30   21:26:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#6. To: Destro (#3)

Only cops can have handguns on Canuk land, and their health care is far better than the US.

Their taxes are higher than ours, their medical effectiveness per cost is lower. They do not have massive Insurance companies that stand in between the patient and the provider to collect no value added rent to the medical process.

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