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Title: Did cops go too far busting up improper yard sale?
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URL Source: http://www.news-journalonline.com/N ... /Headlines/frtHEAD05102909.htm
Published: Nov 2, 2009
Author: DEREK CATRON
Post Date: 2009-11-02 16:34:26 by freepatriot32
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Keywords: cops, busting up, yard sale, jackbooted thugs
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HOLLY HILL -- The yard sale at 722 Center Ave. has been canceled. That much is clear. The rest of the story, including allegations that police threatened to arrest the 80-year-old homeowner because she didn't have a permit? Not so much. The facts are these: After 60 years in Holly Hill, Pauline Liles is moving to Tennessee to live with her daughter's family. Her husband, Jack, is already there, having suffered a stroke that has immobilized him. Pauline, an old hand at yard sales, was hoping to sell most of their stuff before joining him next week. She advertised the three-day sale in the newspaper, but when she went to the city first thing Wednesday to purchase the $5 permit, it was denied. The city currently allows just two such sales in a year, and city officials said Liles had already met her limit. Ironically, city commissioners gave unanimous preliminary approval to an ordinance increasing that limit to four on Tuesday night. That was no help to Liles on Wednesday. A code enforcement officer later came by and ordered Liles and a group of friends who were helping her to halt the sale. Police officers came to reinforce the message. An officer returned in the afternoon to confirm the order had been followed. It's here the accounts diverge. Police Chief Mark Barker said officers described the meetings as "cordial." "No one was cited. We didn't file any paper on it," he said. Interim City Manager Kurt Swartzlander said someone at the house -- he wasn't sure who -- told the code enforcement officer they would have the sale even if they had to pay the $250 fine. "We don't normally call the police on a garage sale," he said. Liles and her friends describe the encounter with police differently. "He started screaming and yelling. He took his handcuffs out," Sue Baderman said. "Two of them showed up and said, 'We're going to arrest you,' " Roger Ables said. "He boomed, 'Everybody put your stuff down and leave the premises. If you accept one more cent from another person, you'll be fined $250,' " Gail Halfhill said. Mayor Roland Via said he wished something could have been worked out beforehand, especially given the commission's intent to increase the annual limit on yard sales. "I'm really sorry something like this happened," he said. "We are a city with a heart." He said the rules are necessary to protect neighborhoods from anyone trying to run a business out of their house. "The red tape got in the way," he said. "I wouldn't be happy if somebody got a speeding ticket for going 26 mph (in a 25 mph zone), but, then again, that's the law." Liles isn't sure what she'll do about packing up her home. She hasn't decided whether to sell or try to lease the house. She just knows she has to get out and help with her husband's care. "It just got ridiculous," she said Wednesday night. "It was a big blow to me. I'm not out to hurt the city or anything. I'll be glad to get out of here." derek.catron@news-jrnl.com
N-J | David Massey Pauline Liles said she was threatened with arrest by Holly Hill Police officers for having a garage sale at her home on Center Avenue.
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#1. To: All, *libertarians*, *Humor-Weird News* (#0)
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She should be glad that she wasn't tased. Welcome to the thugocracy.
Got that right. Police seem taze happy for sure. I like it.
She should change the prices to "suggested donations" and go forward with that.
It's really insane the level of enforcement that we've come to. A lady trying to get rid of her stuff, is suddenly a criminal?
No sales tax on yard sale stuff and heaven forbid a neighbor be subjected to you having a business out of your home.
Just like if you'd sell me some quilts. What's the difference?
speaking of which, I'm going to look into the organic fabric. I don't know how available it is. what color would you like and what size?
She should have had a neighbor or friend apply for the $5 permit. Screw the jackboots.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
#2. To: freepatriot32 (#0)
#3. To: Lod (#2)
She should be glad that she wasn't tased.
Welcome to the thugocracy.
"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791
#4. To: freepatriot32 (#0)
#5. To: farmfriend. all (#3)
#6. To: Lod (#5)
A lady trying to get rid of her stuff, is suddenly a criminal?
"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791
#7. To: farmfriend (#6)
No sales tax on yard sale stuff and heaven forbid a neighbor be subjected to you having a business out of your home.
#8. To: Lod (#7)
"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791
#9. To: freepatriot32 (#0)
She advertised the three-day sale in the newspaper, but when she went to the city first thing Wednesday to purchase the $5 permit, it was denied.
#10. To: Lod (#5)
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