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Title: Get ready for the health police
Source: The Daily Dose
URL Source: http://clicks.douglassreport.com//t/AQ/k34/mSA/C+U/AQ/AaPYDw/HUpe
Published: Nov 4, 2009
Author: William Campbell Douglas II, MD
Post Date: 2009-11-04 15:38:40 by Original_Intent
Keywords: Obamacare, Nazi, 1984, Orwell
Views: 205
Comments: 19

Get ready for the health police

Big Brother is watching you... and soon, he may also be keeping tabs on your waistline, your blood pressure and all of your habits.

Enter the world of the health police.

In the socialist dreamworld of ObamaCare, anyone who's overweight, has high cholesterol levels or suffers from any other condition will be forced to pay a penalty. Drinkers, smokers and anyone else who enjoys life's greatest pleasures, watch out.

They're coming for you, too.

That's right -- under a terrifying new law making its way through the Senate, anyone who doesn't meet some bureaucrat's vision of good health will pay the price. And I can guarantee you this: These crazy new regulations will be based on outdated and downright dangerous ideas, like the mistaken and disproved notion that cholesterol levels have anything to do with your health.

Now, you'd think this would fly in the face of their promise of health care for everyone without higher fees for sick people or preexisting conditions... and you'd be right.

So get ready for some classic Orwellian doublespeak. These fees and penalties won't be called fees or penalties. Instead, the lower rate would reflect something called a "wellness incentive."

Under this new proposal, anyone who fails to meet these incentives could pay up to 50 percent more.

And believe me, you WILL fail to meet the incentives. Just take a look at a fascinating report in the Washington Post on companies that have tried these incentive-based health plans for their employees. The article is filled with glowing quotes about how they've kept costs down.

But it's not because health care magically got cheaper -- it's because employees are paying much higher rates for falling short of their "wellness" targets.

I just wonder how they'll enforce it once it applies to all of us. Will the ObamaCare police sift through our medical records to keep tabs on us? Follow us around to see if we have the nerve to smoke or the gall to order a beer? Stop by our homes for weight checks, or maybe go through the fridge? Interrogate sexual partners to find out if we've used protection?

And don't even think about getting sick.

We all know how easy it is for blood pressure levels to spike suddenly. Now, each bad spell could lead to new a fine or fee. That's probably enough stress to cause those levels to shoot even higher -- leading to even more penalties for missing your incentive targets.

And then you'd have a "wellness" incentive... leading directly to sickness!

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#1. To: Original_Intent (#0)

The kenyan and his ilk are simply insane.

Lod  posted on  2009-11-04   15:43:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod (#1)

The kenyan and his ilk are simply insane.

True - by definition a narcissistic sociopath is insane.

However, that has not yet prevented them from acting on their hellish "visions" of their ideal world (which sane people would call Hell).

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-04   15:52:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#0)

has high cholesterol levels

I guess we will be penalized for our genetics.


"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-11-04   16:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: farmfriend (#3)

Just admit it - you're a bad person because you don't conform to what some whackjob considers "normal". All must conform and be assimilated.

Now take your Blue Pill and go back to sleep.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-04   16:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Man. Thank goodness I'm not going to participate in this system, should it come to pass.

And yes, I'm stating openly that I will defy the law if they try to impose this bullshit on me.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-11-04   16:17:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Original_Intent (#4)

Now take your Blue Pill and go back to sleep.

LOL

you're a bad person because you don't conform to what some whackjob considers "normal".

I don't think I have ever been accused of being normal.


"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-11-04   16:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: farmfriend (#6)

I don't think I have ever been accused of being normal.

Me neither I'm proud to say.

However, The Collective won't like us.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-04   16:24:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: SonOfLiberty (#5)

And yes, I'm stating openly that I will defy the law if they try to impose this bullshit on me.

They are going to try.

I think that it will be the last straw and there will be widespread civil disobedience. We'll have to see where it goes because while you and I might not participate this is going to be a numbers game.

Hopefully it will be like "Real ID" and the States will revolt as well.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-04   16:28:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Original_Intent (#8)

They are going to try.

I think that it will be the last straw and there will be widespread civil disobedience. We'll have to see where it goes because while you and I might not participate this is going to be a numbers game.

I agree.

Hopefully it will be like "Real ID" and the States will revolt as well.

One can hope. I know I for one will openly advocate disobeying any and all "Obama health care" laws passed by this government and I hope others do as well. Get out and evangelize like we're ten minutes from rapture.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-11-04   16:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: SonOfLiberty (#9)

One of our saving graces at this point is the Tenth Amendment and that it costs too much and the logistics are too difficult (without e-voting fully in place) to control every legislator in every state.

Since they do not control all of the State Legislators that is the level we have to move on.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-04   16:36:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Original_Intent (#0)

There will be widespread disobedience. However, it is also not easy to be sympathetic to the "People of Wal-Mart" when they experience self-inflicted health problems.

Just look at the photos of these people. These are your fellow Americans. I wonder why "we" continue to tell ourselves "we" are "the greatest nation on earth." It is truly delusional to think this.

Ten minutes of looking at that site can make one wish there REALLY WAS an Al Qaeda to wipe this country out once and for all.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-11-04   16:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Original_Intent (#0)

In the socialist dreamworld of ObamaCare, anyone who's overweight, has high cholesterol levels or suffers from any other condition will be forced to pay a penalty. Drinkers, smokers and anyone else who enjoys life's greatest pleasures, watch out.

They're coming for you, too.

Will the faggots be called out for their unhealthy lifestyle?? I'm just askin'.........

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-11-04   16:51:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Sam Houston (#11) (Edited)

I feel sorry for them, but I would degrade no one. However, Nationalized Hellthcare is not going to change them. Only education has that power, and that is why our Schools have been sabotaged by the same bastards pushing Nationalized Hellthcare.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-04   16:52:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: X-15 (#12)

Will the faggots be called out for their unhealthy lifestyle?? I'm just askin'.........

No. That would be Poltitically Incorrect. They will be lauded and treated as though STD's spread through anal intercourse is normal and is not an issue of concern for the Hellth Plan.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-04   16:54:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Lod (#1)

The kenyan and his ilk are simply insane.

This isn't coming from them. They aren't capable of thinking up this tripe. It is coming from the one worlders and the hebrews.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-11-04   17:12:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Original_Intent (#7)

However, The Collective won't like us.

Good, I never was very good at following the rules.


"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-11-04   17:40:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: SonOfLiberty (#5)

I'm not going to participate in this system, should it come to pass.

And yes, I'm stating openly that I will defy the law if they try to impose this bullshit on me.

I won't participitate in this bullshit system either.

I will shut down my internet business, and close my bank accounts, move and leave no forwarding address to prevent 'em from stealing my $$$$....

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-11-04   17:54:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: SonOfLiberty, original_intent, sizzlerguy, lod, psusa (#9)

i won't participate in their system either, matter of fact, i have often gone without so-called 'health insurance' because its a huge waste of money, and i pay cash if i need to go to the doctor. besides rarely being sick, its much cheaper to do it this way. there are catastrophic plans or accident plans one can buy if theyre frightened about it. i have relatives who didnt opt for insurance, and had their baby in a hospital, negotiateed all the costs ahead of time, and paid cash for it. saved a ton of dough, no problems.

this criminal scum government will never force me to buy some sick eugenics b.s. healthplan.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-11-05   1:02:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Artisan, SonOfLiberty, original_intent, sizzlerguy, lod, psusa, Phant2000 (#18)

there are catastrophic plans or accident plans one can buy if theyre frightened about it.

I've read that if this reform bill passes, private health plans will need to be "approved" by the central authority council, so inexpensive catastrophic plans [I have this type] might no longer be "validated."

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=109802

"Skelton said that he was against a government-run insurance option, which liberals hope to include in the bill. He said that it could affect people who like the private insurance plan they currently have."

Also consumer friendly tax deductible HSA/FSA plans will be taking a hit.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-11-05   1:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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