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Title: I want this
Source: ebay
URL Source: http://cgi.ebay.ca/Intel-Core-i5-Qu ... esktop_PCs?hash=item5636909df5
Published: Nov 10, 2009
Author: me
Post Date: 2009-11-10 02:19:31 by wudidiz
Keywords: None
Views: 459
Comments: 38

cgi.ebay.ca/Intel-Core-i5...p_PCs?hash=item5636909df5


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I want it and I will have it.

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#2. To: wudidiz (#0) (Edited)

I'd shop around.

The I5 isn't as fast as the I7, and the I7 920 is the same price as the I5 comparable processor. A 500W supply is barely adequate for a medium end graphics card, for a high end you'd need at least 700W if not 1000.

Sorry, just didn't want you to end up with something you'd be disappointed with.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   2:29:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: FormerLurker (#2)

Yes, thank you.

But the only I7 starts at about twice the price. cgi.ebay.ca/INTEL-i7-920-...p_PCs?hash=item518e125f89

Mind you it comes with a lot more of course. The barebones packages are the most affordable. I imagine the I5 will do everything I need, but thank you just the same FL. By the way, how much faster will the I7 be than the I5?

Okay, maybe I don't need a high end graphics card.

Maybe something like this?

cgi.ebay.ca/BFG-NVIDIA-Ge...Cards?hash=item56365be44f

Would that be compatible?

wudidiz  posted on  2009-11-10   2:44:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: wudidiz (#5)

By the way, how much faster will the I7 be than the I5?

But the only I7 starts at about twice the price.

The CPUS themselves costs about the same, around $289 (goes up and down each day practically). It's the motherboard for the I7 that costs more, it does more things and is more capable than the I5 motherboard. It also uses triple channel memory rather than dual channel.

As far as speed, it depends on what sorts of applications you plan on running. The I7 not only has 4 physical cores, but also has hyperthreading, allowing the operating system to treat each physical core as two logical processors, where your system runs as if it had 8 CPUS.

The I5 doesn't have hyperthreading, so only runs as 4 CPUS.

In certain applications, such as video encoding (if you want to edit and produce videos from a camcorder for instance), the more CPUS the faster everything runs.

In terms of upgrade paths, the I5 uses a socket which will not be supported by the newer processors coming out, whereas the I7 uses a socket which will be used by the newer processors.

As far as graphics the 8400 is practically obsolete. I'd get at least a 8800 GT, or a 9800 GT, which is a newer card and a tad bit faster.

Depends what you want the graphics card for as well. If you want to do some serious gaming with the newest games maxed out on a wide screen high def 24 inch or larger monitor, you need something like a GTX 295 or something similar (the GTX 280, 285, and 275 cards were almost as good but a LOT cheaper, but are now largely discontinued), then you're talking over $500 for the card.

If you want to play the newer games at acceptable settings on a 22 inch widescreen or smaller monitor, then the 8800GT would be fine, the 9800GT a bit better.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   3:07:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: FormerLurker (#6)

Hey, thank you for that information.

I didn't realize the I7 was that much better than the I5.

I want the graphics card for such things as compiz fusion, watching movies etc.

I never do any gaming.

cgi.ebay.ca/ASUS-NVIDIA-9...Cards?hash=item3a4dc358da

I was exaggerating when I said a high end graphics card. I'll get by with a 250 gb harddrive too. I don't need a terabyte.

This is very good info, FL, thank you.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-11-10   3:21:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: wudidiz (#7) (Edited)

For standard computing and watching movies, I'd get that PC you were looking at along with the 8800GT. It has Nvidea Pure Video built in which accelerates video, and you might find a used one for around the same price as the one you were looking at.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/XFX-GeForce-8800GT-Alpha-Dog-edition-640-Mhz- core_W0QQitemZ330374623470QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCC_Video_TV_Cards? hash=item4cebdcb0ee

OR, you could get a brand new 8800GTX for just a bit more money...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133305

9800GT cards aren't that much more money either...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048% 201305520548%20106792522%201067942536&name=GeForce%209800%20GT

If you aren't going to be upgrading to the I9 in the near future (8 physical cores), the I5 socket shouldn't make a difference, and for the price, the PC you were looking at seems pretty good.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   3:38:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: FormerLurker (#8)

If you aren't going to be upgrading to the I9 in the near future (8 physical cores), the I5 socket shouldn't make a difference, and for the price, the PC you were looking at seems pretty good.

Thank you for your thoughtful and knowledgeable responses, FL.

I guess I will probably settle for the cheaper one until I can afford the more expensive. Then maybe later I can get the I9.

Found this...

Both Core i7 800-series processors support hyperthreading the same as their Core i7 900-series brethren. The Core i5 750 does not-its four physical cores are all that will appear in your operating system's task manager. Even so, the CPU's noteworthy performance makes it an excellent value for its roughly $200 price. We only saw a performance difference of 5 percent between the Core i5 750 and the roughly $555 Core i7 870 (based on WorldBench 6 testing of the two CPUs on identical system builds). In fact, the Core i5 750's score of 127 falls right around the scores set by competing Value and Power PCs that use Core i7 920 processors.

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