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Title: A question for Freedom4um: Do you believe the 'official' story about Fort Hood?
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Published: Nov 10, 2009
Author: bluegrass
Post Date: 2009-11-10 06:11:05 by bluegrass
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A question for Freedom4um: Do you believe the 'official' story about Fort Hood?

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#31. To: bluegrass (#0)

A question for Freedom4um: Do you believe the 'official' story about Fort Hood?

NO!

Too many elements coming out that do not fit the cookie cutter template used to explain it away as "just another crazed Arab".

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-10   13:41:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#32. To: Phant2000 (#25)

AND I don't know how anyone could believe anything we are hearing, given the reports we received that the shooter was alive after he had been reported dead!

How is that a red herring? This took place on a military base. I doubt MSM was given immediate access. They were relying on heresy. And Hasan suffered significant injuries - it would be a reasonable assumption as he was carted away into a ambulence that he was done for, because if he wasn't already dead he was on death's door step and wouldn't pull through. Consider that he was in the ICU on a ventilator for several days.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-11-10   13:43:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#33. To: scrapper2 (#32)

They were relying on heresy.

Wow, they were going against the Pope? 

her·e·sy 
n. pl. her·e·sies 
1. 
a. An opinion or a doctrine at variance with established religious beliefs, 
especially dissension from or denial of Roman Catholic dogma by a professed 
believer or baptized church member.
b. Adherence to such dissenting opinion or doctrine.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   13:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#34. To: scrapper2 (#32)

They were relying on heresy.

Freudian slip there, scrappy.

3-star generals don't make mistakes like Cone made: announcing the shooter dead and two others at large.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-11-10   13:46:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#35. To: FormerLurker (#30)

So... show me first a motive for the Hood shootings.

Well here's one of many possible motives, such as stirring up the rubes for more war and less freedom in the name of "safety and security"...

Patriot Act Vote Scheduled for Nov. 5

Oddly enough it appears to have made it out of committee, but do you think with all of the people quivering in their shorts over the fear of "muzzies" under their beds, this has a real chance of passing?

Is there Tea in China?

Is the Pope Catholic?

Like most of the big PsyOp events we've seen there appears to have been a big agenda set to roll through under cover of the distraction.

The HELLTHCARE vote.

Patriot Act

Flagging support for endless wars for endless peace.

Growing opposition to the attacks on individual liberty.

"Gee Wally you don't think they'd kill a bunch of people just to advance their agenda do you?"

"Get real Beave. These people are sociopaths. Of course they would."

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-10   13:46:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#36. To: scrapper2 (#32) (Edited)

Thing is, the reports of multiple shooters were repeated often during the initial events, and reports of SWAT being fired upon were also mentioned. Live coverage mentioned those things, yet I see nothing in print concerning them.

The SWAT team having one of the shooters surrounded in one of the buildings on base is one other report that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere, yet it was reported on CNN and/or Fox as the events were unfolding.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   13:49:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#37. To: Fred Mertz (#34)

Freudian slip there, scrappy.

Say what?

scrapper2  posted on  2009-11-10   13:51:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#38. To: FormerLurker, Fred Mertz (#33)

Okay - I get it - har, har.

My spell check allows anything through that is spelled correctly.

I meant to say hearsay, not her-es-y.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-11-10   13:55:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#39. To: christine (#29)

the one aspect that's troublesome is the initial reports of hasan's death.

There's naturally going to be a lot of chaos on this kind of event. We all already know how rumors & gossip get twisted just inside local communities, so I think some confusion on facts is inevitable when something like this happens. And I think the guy was shot, was it 4 times? So I don't think the death report is very significant.

What I do think is strange/hypocritical is the gov not treating this as "terrorism". It seems the rule in practice is, if they catch someone BEFORE they do it, it's terrorism. But if it's AFTER they do it, it's just an ordinary crime.

I guess since 9-11, they want their pre-emptive, unconstitutional "anti-terror" activities to be batting 1.000.

Pinguinite  posted on  2009-11-10   13:56:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#40. To: scrapper2, Phant2000, Original_Intent, ALL (#32) (Edited)

Sgt. Major Jamie Posten reports there was more than one shooter.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   13:56:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#41. To: scrapper2, Pinguinite, christine, RickyJ, Original_Intent, Jethro Tull, All (#40)

Pay attention to 2:22 in the video, they report a gunman has been surrounded at the PX, and that he has a high powered rifle.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   14:07:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#42. To: FormerLurker (#40)

Thanks for the video clip. I had not heard it. Frankly I had not even realized how horrific the event was until a few hours after because I was doing research on the Obamacare bill. I didn't join the thread here until much later.

But FL, even in the clip you posted, Sgt Major [?] Jamie Posten does say this is all preliminary info and that the formal investigation was just starting.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-11-10   14:08:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#43. To: scrapper2 (#42)

Check out post 41.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   14:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#44. To: Pinguinite (#39)

What I do think is strange/hypocritical is the gov not treating this as "terrorism". It seems the rule in practice is, if they catch someone BEFORE they do it, it's terrorism. But if it's AFTER they do it, it's just an ordinary crime.

Lieberman has suggested it.

online.wsj.com/ar ticle/SB125769764441836773.html

christine  posted on  2009-11-10   14:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#45. To: All (#41)

More on 2nd shooter

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   14:18:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#46. To: bluegrass (#0) (Edited)

What did James Traficant tell us folks.?

Traficant said that the Ohio Mafia, FBI, the politicians, State and Local Law Enforcement, and almost everyone that he knew in Youngstown Ohio was dirty.

So, I figure, this Fort Hood event, was "staged" for publicity in a slow year for tragic events.

I believe the first report, that the "shooter" is really among the dead, and the Fort Hood slaughter was just an elaborate "fabrication" like the movie, The Sting.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-11-10   14:19:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#47. To: bluegrass (#0)

Here's my list of why's that make me think this is fishy.

1. It happened on a military base. If it's a psi-op, it's the best place to keep everything a controlled environment. Witnesses can be silenced much more readily than in the civilian world. People can be ordered to keep quiet under the threat of National Security.

2. Who the Lone Nut is connected to. A man, a psychiatrist, connected to Virginia Tech, the Bush Administration, and whose landlord is named Jose Padilla no less fires shots on a military base, killing many, wounding many more, without ONE soldier being able to do anything. Stand down orders? Could be any one number of factors, but the one glaring issue here is that there was not ONE Military Police unit dispatched to deal with this.

3. Regular Police Officer takes down the bad guy. Not one soldier, not one MP, but just one female cop, who gets shot in the process. Kind of hard to believe that a cop could get there so quickly, to take down the bad guy, when an entire army base, with MP's and armament out the wazoo could not.

4. How many shootings have we witnessed recently while Pelosi and Congress do their best to ram Socialism down our throats via the health care bill? I stated that when this happened, we would see many more in the news while this bill is being debated, and eventually passed. Shootings grab headlines, because they serve as a distraction.

5. The shooter in question's connections to 9-11 terrorists. It comes out NOW? This guy was connected to the 9-11 hijackers, and it only surfaces now? During the height of terror scares, and round ups of domestic terrorist cells around the globe, this guy got a pass the whole time until now? The FBI, and the NSA know how many cornflakes are in my box of cereal in the morning, and yet this "Terrorist" has been in their midst the whole time?

Nobody is asking any real questions in the media. They are simply throwing crap up against a wall and hoping that something sticks out to distract the rest of America from actually getting the truth. This guy in my estimation didn't need to come up with a reason to kill Americans. He was given plenty, and it's the who that gave it to him that needs to be answered.

Tim McVeigh had a bunch of help carrying out OKC. This guy had help too.

Better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2009-11-10   14:19:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#48. To: All (#45)

Seems like there was a whole lot of commotion going on AFTER the supposed "lone gunman" had been shot "dead".

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   14:27:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#49. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#47)

4. How many shootings have we witnessed recently while Pelosi and Congress do their best to ram Socialism down our throats via the health care bill? I stated that when this happened, we would see many more in the news while this bill is being debated, and eventually passed. Shootings grab headlines, because they serve as a distraction.

it was predicted by a number of people that mass shootings would increase with obama's presidency since it's the democrats intent to enforce more gun control.

christine  posted on  2009-11-10   14:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#50. To: scrapper2 (#42)

But FL, even in the clip you posted, Sgt Major [?] Jamie Posten does say this is all preliminary info and that the formal investigation was just starting.

Right, but he was certain that there was at least two shooters.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   14:38:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#51. To: bluegrass, All (#40)

Forgot to ping you. You might want to check out posts 40, 41, 45, and 48.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   14:46:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#52. To: FormerLurker (#50)

Right, but he was certain that there was at least two shooters.

He thought there were 2 shooters and then at the end of the interview he stressed that this was based on preliminary reports and that the full investigation had just begun.

I heard 2 people were detained for questioning and released fairly quickly there after. Maybe they were eliminated too quickly and will be re-questioned or maybe they were innocent by-standers.

I don't have the answers at this time and I would suggest that neither do you. What you have are suppositions and theories based on preliminary information.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-11-10   14:47:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#53. To: scrapper2 (#52)

he stressed that this was based on preliminary reports and that the full investigation had just begun.

Watch again. He did not change his story nor say he was uncertain about what he said, he said that they were still developing information on how the shooters got on base and who they were.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   14:50:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#54. To: scrapper2 (#52)

Hell, right at the beginning he speaks of "more than one shooter".

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   14:51:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#55. To: scrapper2 (#52)

He also speaks of shootings at the base theater, not just the Soldiers Readiness Center.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   14:53:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#56. To: FormerLurker. all (#55)

Anything further on Major Muzzie's condition, questioning, whatever?

Lod  posted on  2009-11-10   14:55:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#57. To: scrapper2 (#52)

Listen to what he says at 2:00 through 2:15. In part, "what WE know is that shots were fired into the Soldiers Readiness Processing Center, there WAS MORE than one shooter"

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   14:57:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#58. To: Lod (#56)

Anything further on Major Muzzie's condition, questioning, whatever?

Haven't heard anything beyond he was awake. Doubt he'd be allowed to say anything publicaly, so we'll never know what he really might be saying.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   14:58:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#59. To: FormerLurker (#55) (Edited)

Go for it. Join the masses of rubes glued to the TV and doing their own 'net snooping to unearth the Ft. Hood massacre conspiracy. By all means continue your research and get back to me with the names of the 2 other shooters. MSM sure is covering your topic of interest 24/7 - Obamacare has gone to the back burner now that FT. Hood massacre has occurred.

But I won't join you and the Ft. Hood private eye masses. I'm rather busy now researching how much hard cash - pretax $ -I'm going to lose through Madame DeFarge's health care bill.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-11-10   15:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#60. To: FormerLurker (#58)

A buck says he don't remember anything.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-11-10   15:00:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#61. To: Lod (#56)

Anything further on Major Muzzie's condition, questioning, whatever?

Not that I've seen.

He's got to stay away from Jack Ruby, that is a certainty.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-11-10   15:00:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#62. To: scrapper2 (#59)

get back to me with the names of the 2 other shooters

Yeah, once I identify who really shot JFK.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   15:01:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#63. To: sizzlerguy (#60)

A buck says he don't remember anything.

Depends on whether you're talking about before or after the year long confinement to a blackened room with high volume noise being pumped in 24/7.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   15:03:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#64. To: FormerLurker (#63)

Yea, they're probably torturing with Fat Boy Slim recordings.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-11-10   15:09:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#65. To: FormerLurker (#62)

Yeah, once I identify who really shot JFK.

Precisely.

While folks were researching the JFK conspiracy, LBJ conscripted young American males to fight and die in stupid Vietnam War for the bottom lines of the MIC.

Fast forward - while people were researching the JFK conspiracy, 41 got us into the useless Gulf War and 42 got us into Serbia and laid the foundation for 9/11 which 43 used as an excuse to get us into Afghanistan and Iraq, where we still are, with plans for expansion in Afghanistan as we speak under 44.

We still don't know who really killed JFK but in the meantime while we were doing our research on that issue, Americans have been literally and figuratively bled out.

Keep your eye on the ball and not on distractions.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-11-10   15:15:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#66. To: scrapper2, ALL (#59)

The initial reports are always the most accurate, leaving no time to "sanitize" the info. Just as in OKC, where early reports indicated multiple undetonated "devices" were found, here we have early reports of "more than one shooter"...

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   15:17:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#67. To: scrapper2 (#65)

If the REAL assassins of JFK had been identified, apprehended, tried, and convicted, we wouldn't have had Vietnam, Gulf War I or II, nor any other war which has been foisted upon us by those who WERE complicit in his murder.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   15:18:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#68. To: scrapper2 (#65)

In other words scrapper, if you ignore actual events that CAN be shown to have been perpetrated by evil men, then those evil men can and WILL proceed with their plans.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   15:20:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#69. To: FormerLurker, Scrapper2, all (#67)

If the REAL assassins of JFK had been identified, apprehended, tried, and convicted, we wouldn't have had Vietnam, Gulf War I or II, nor any other war which has been foisted upon us by those who WERE complicit in his murder.

Exactly. The murder of JFK by forces controlling our government is because JFK was ultimately loyal to his country and his oath. LBJ was a scumbag who would do whatever it took to get what he wanted.

The real reason ANY of these events a staged is not as an end in itself but as a means to justify the already determined course of action.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-10   15:45:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#70. To: Original_Intent, Scrapper2, all (#69)

The murder of JFK by forces controlling our government is because JFK was ultimately loyal to his country and his oath.

This speech of his really illustrates that idea...

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-10   15:50:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#71. To: RickyJ (#26) (Edited)

Now the media is in evil Muslim mode. It is as plain as day what they are hoping to get people thinking out of this tragedy. That devout Muslims are terrorists and we need to stay in the Middle East to control them or more will come over here and kill us.

I agree with your post.

The goal is still Iran! The more the Muslims can be demonized, the more all around support the warmongers will get.

sushigirl  posted on  2009-11-11   22:58:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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