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Title: At least 4,000 swine flu deaths reported in U.S. (4X initial estimate now)
Source: AP
URL Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33881535/ns/health-cold_and_flu/
Published: Nov 12, 2009
Author: AP
Post Date: 2009-11-12 12:19:59 by abraxas
Keywords: None
Views: 193
Comments: 16

At least 4,000 swine flu deaths reported in U.S. CDC: ‘Many millions’ have been sickened since outbreak began in April

updated 5:48 a.m. PT, Thurs., Nov . 12, 2009 ATLANTA - Federal health officials now say that 4,000 or more Americans likely have died from swine flu — about four times the estimate they've been using.

The new, higher figure was first reported by The New York Times. It includes deaths caused by complications related to swine flu, including pneumonia and bacterial infections.

Until now, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had conservatively put the U.S. swine flu death count at more than 1,000. Officials said this week they're working on an even more accurate calculation.

The CDC says "many millions" of Americans have caught the pandemic flu virus since it first appeared in April.

Separately, the World Health Organization said Thursday doctors shouldn't wait for lab confirmation before giving anti-viral drugs to pregnant women and other at-risk groups with suspected swine flu.

WHO medical officer Dr. Nikki Shindo said prescribing antivirals early to vulnerable people with clinical symptoms of swine flu can help lower the risk of serious complications.

Shindo said otherwise healthy people should only take drugs such as Tamiflu if their condition worsens rapidly and never as a preventive measure. "The vast majority" of people who catch swine flu will recover without medication or hospital treatment.

Shindo said that Ukraine, Afghanistan and Mongolia have reported their hospitals are being overwhelmed by serious cases.


Time for the big push to unload all that vaccine that the goobermint purchased from big pharma........increase those death numbers asap.

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#1. To: abraxas (#0)

we've got 'til December 31 to catch up to aspirin bump

(1996): "Each year, use of NSAIDs (Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs) accounts for an estimated 7,600 deaths and 76,000 hospitalizations in the United States." (NSAIDs include aspirin, ibuprofen, naproxen, diclofenac, ketoprofen, and tiaprofenic acid.)

Source: Robyn Tamblyn, PhD; Laeora Berkson, MD, MHPE, FRCPC; W. Dale Jauphinee, MD, FRCPC; David Gayton, MD, PhD, FRCPC; Roland Grad, MD, MSc; Allen Huang, MD, FRCPC; Lisa Isaac, PhD; Peter McLeod, MD, FRCPC; and Linda Snell, MD, MHPE, FRCPC, "Unnecessary Prescribing of NSAIDs and the Management of NSAID-Related Gastropathy in Medical Practice," Annals of Internal Medicine (Washington, DC: American College of Physicians, 1997), September 15, 1997, 127:429-438, from the web at http://www.acponline.org/journals/annals/15sep97/nsaid.htm, last accessed Feb. 14, 2001, citing Fries, JF, "Assessing and understanding patient risk," Scandinavian Journal of Rheumatology Supplement, 1992;92:21-4.

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X-15  posted on  2009-11-12   12:30:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: abraxas (#0)

Something's bogus here.

Just this morning, I heard that in TX, there have been 41 confirmed h1n1 deaths.

I guess Texans should stop slacking and begin dying on a much larger scale.

Lod  posted on  2009-11-12   13:07:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Lod (#2)

I think it is like AGW. They will attribute ANYTHING to it, real or not.


"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-11-12   13:10:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: farmfriend (#3)

I think it is like AGW. They will attribute ANYTHING to it, real or not.

Yep.... anyone requiring a vent is being given that DX even if there is another direct cause other than direct trauma, because the hospitals say the potential is there. My little friend who died from a hospital obtained BACTERIAL infection a couple of weeks ago just became a Swine flu statistic.

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-12   13:23:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mininggold (#4)

My little friend who died from a hospital obtained BACTERIAL infection a couple of weeks ago just became a Swine flu statistic.

Not surprising at all. And most are just assumed cases not tested positive cases.


"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-11-12   13:28:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod (#2) (Edited)

I guess Texans should stop slacking and begin dying on a much larger scale.

Obviously, Texas is involved in a vast conspiracy to under report the deaths. It's time for Texas to feel some pressure from the CDC and turn that 41 into 164, just in time for an influx in vaccines to arrive.

abraxas  posted on  2009-11-12   13:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: abraxas (#0)

I don't believe any of this propaganda and scare tactics from the MSM swines.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-11-12   13:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sizzlerguy (#7)

Neither do I. No way in hell my family will be lining up for the jab.

abraxas  posted on  2009-11-12   13:36:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: farmfriend (#5)

Not surprising at all. And most are just assumed cases not tested positive cases.

And it puts the blame elsewhere so that hospitals can keep hiring illegals and foreign nationals with poor bedside and nursing hygiene skills.

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-12   13:37:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: abraxas (#0)

Roughly 6 million infected with 4,000 who have unfortunately died.

My chances of survival took a nosedive down to a meager 99.33%. Whatever will I do with myself? How am I going to make it?

"What began in Russia will end in America."- 1930, Elder Ignatius of Harbin, Manchuria.

scooter  posted on  2009-11-12   13:57:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: scooter (#10)

My chances of survival took a nosedive down to a meager 99.33%. Whatever will I do with myself? How am I going to make it?

Who granted you permission to think so critically and pragmatically about these numbers, Scooter? Derb nub it!! The correct response is FEAR not REASON. : )

abraxas  posted on  2009-11-12   13:59:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: abraxas (#0)

BBC NEWS | Health | Swine flu cases drop in England

The number of new swine flu cases in the past week fell by nearly a quarter to 64,000 in England, figures show.

Indiana officials see signs of swine flu taper -- chicagotribune.com

INDIANAPOLIS - Indiana health officials say they're seeing some encouraging signs that the swine flu might be tapering off in the state -- at least for now.

A lower percentage of hospitals reported seeing elevated levels of flu-like illnesses in the week that ended Saturday compared to the week before. And fewer schools reported large numbers of students being absent.

WalesOnline - News - Cardiff News - Second wave of swine flu ‘could be over by Christmas’

EXPERTS last night admitted they did not know whether the second wave of swine flu has peaked.

The latest figures suggest that the number of people infected by the virus is falling.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-11-12   14:47:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: abraxas, all (#6)

At the rate this flying pig flu is not going, they may have to go Ukraine on us, and spray us with some really good stuff.

Lod  posted on  2009-11-12   15:35:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Lod (#13)

At the rate this flying pig flu is not going, they may have to go Ukraine on us, and spray us with some really good stuff.

Washoe reports few new swine flu cases in past week | rgj.com | The Reno Gazette-Journal

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-11-13   3:13:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Lod (#13)

At the rate this flying pig flu is not going, they may have to go Ukraine on us, and spray us with some really good stuff.

Swine flu cases show signs of decline | Philadelphia Inquirer | 11/13/2009

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-11-13   11:45:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: abraxas (#0)

Isn't it funny, when you consider that anybody with flu right now and in the past few months has been, without testing verification, declared a victim of Mexican Flu?

I suspect that if the real numbers were known, it would a small hand full. Just a hunch.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-11-13   11:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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