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Title: Americans owe it to their strained military to reconsider merits of the draft
Source: Waco Tribune
URL Source: http://www.wacotrib.com/opin/conten ... /11112009waceditorialfull.html
Published: Nov 11, 2009
Author: Waco Tribune
Post Date: 2009-11-13 20:01:40 by scrapper2
Keywords: conscription talk, Obumski, grunts needed, Obamacare costs $
Views: 795
Comments: 55

Veterans Day 2009 finds our nation not only feeling anxiety about new battles looming in Afghanistan but grieving over the dead and wounded of Fort Hood, victims of what officials say is a gunman troubled over the horrors conveyed by war-weary soldiers, his mission as an Army psychiatrist about to deploy to Afghanistan and his failure to resolve Muslim beliefs and inner demons.

But beyond these issues, what does this all mean for our nation’s all-volunteer military? As we prepare to again honor those who have served in the so-called “war on terror” as well as other conflicts in other climes, is it not finally time to ask if we as a society are truly doing right by those we send to war?

Has the time finally come to reconsider military conscription?

Talk with soldiers at Fort Hood and you’ll find some on their third or fourth deployment. Some claim they’re proud for yet another opportunity to serve their country abroad. Others dread it — not just out of concern for their safety but because they miss time with family, time at home.

Meanwhile, more and more of the veterans health system is devoted to treating those suffering severe mental trauma — an issue Central Texans are especially aware of as the Waco Veterans Affairs Medical Center redoubles its efforts to determine root causes of and treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder.

Last year, a Rand Corp. study indicated one in five military personnel returning from Iraq and Afghanistan suffered some sort of depression or PTSD. The report said many don’t seek treatment because they fear the stigma might harm their careers.

The study estimates that treatment of those returning with PTSD or depression can cost our nation as much as $6.2 billion in the two years following deployment. That covers both direct medical care and costs for lost productivity and suicide. Official data also show that soldiers from Fort Hood have had the highest rate of suicide among U.S. military installations since 2003.

Some Army officials tell The Washington Post they don’t know how much more strain our Army can take — which, for all armchair generals out there, is probably one good reason the president is carefully weighing any troop surge in Afghanistan.

So do we have enough troops in our all-volunteer military if we’re having to send the same troops back into the faraway fray time and again? Is it fair to go to the same well repeatedly? We think not.

Manpower studies by retired Marine Maj. Gen. Arnold Punaro, former chairman of the U.S. Commission on the National Guard and Reserves, indicate that of the 1.4 million men and women on active duty in our military today, only half are not in overhead jobs and are thus deployable. That’s why the same troops with battlefield expertise keep going back.

Some military officials say today’s all-volunteer Army is vastly superior in quality and focus than that assembled decades ago through the ranks of both enlisted and draftees. But other evidence suggests our military, including reservists and the guard, has become exhausted and demoralized by constant deployments and the scourge of stop-loss policies.

Beyond that, military conscription arguably makes better Americans of our young, gives them an investment in country unlike any other and teaches them valuable qualities such as teamwork, attention to duty and the meaning of self-sacrifice.

Americans like to scoff at how people in other lands address matters, but we should think twice of criticizing the Israelis, who bring something dynamic to their nation through the draft. Do they as a nation have a spark of patriotism, resolve and national engagement that we lack? Do we as a people have enough pride in country and concern for our military to even consider returning to the draft?


Poster Comment:

"Beyond that, military conscription arguably makes better Americans of our young, gives them an investment in country unlike any other and teaches them valuable qualities such as teamwork, attention to duty and the meaning of self-sacrifice. Americans like to scoff at how people in other lands address matters, but we should think twice of criticizing the Israelis, who bring something dynamic to their nation through the draft. Do they as a nation have a spark of patriotism, resolve and national engagement that we lack? Do we as a people have enough pride in country and concern for our military to even consider returning to the draft??

I hope the Nesters, DUers, and kossacks are happy. For "free" flu shots and annual physical exams,[ 30 pieces of silver] they sold out the lives of American young men ages 18-26.

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#1. To: scrapper2 (#0) (Edited)

Some military officials say today’s all-volunteer Army is vastly superior in quality and focus than that assembled decades ago through the ranks of both enlisted and draftees.

Utter nonsense...

I give you Maj. Hasan as prime example.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-13   20:11:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#1)

Utter nonsense...

I give you Maj. Hasan as prime example.

I couldn't agree with you more.

I spose the idiots making these remarks would say the current crop of dumbed down high schoolers is far superior to those a few generations ago that led the world in math and science.

If their arguments hold anything, it is the fact that they are so mind controlled and are easily abused with tour after tour in the mindless wars we are engaged in. Sophisticated weapons being operated with manuals printed as comic books so they can understand or hope to understand how to operate them. Vhastly superior my sister's cat's ass!

LACUMO  posted on  2009-11-13   20:28:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: LACUMO, Cynicom (#3)

No offense, but I think you two are disputing a minor point in the larger scheme of things.

Who cares whether volunteer enlisted are any less or any more capable on the battlefield than conscripts?

The larger issues are:

1. that conscription is involuntary servitude of a selected age group and only of one gender at that

2. Afghanistan and Iraq and Vietnam and Korea and WWI and WWII are all useless wars that had nothing to do with the defense of America. To trigger conscription to fight in Afghanistan so that Obumski can fight his war(s) on the cheap while continuing his Greater Good follies stateside - Obamacare and AmnestyCare - is despicable.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-11-13   20:54:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: scrapper2 (#4)

1. that conscription is involuntary servitude of a selected age group and only of one gender at that

That excuse wont wash.

It has always been used by those perfectly willing to see others go, but not themselves. It is nothing but a olde and tired hackneyed saying using a lofty idealistic view, when in reality it is based on simple cowardice.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-13   21:14:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#5)

It has always been used by those perfectly willing to see others go, but not themselves. It is nothing but a olde and tired hackneyed saying using a lofty idealistic view, when in reality it is based on simple cowardice.

Disagree. I served in the military, voluntarily, in a very dangerous capacity. I would never shirk from doing what's right even at the risk of my life. That said, I do hold that the draft is involuntary servitude, and further, that the very notion of a standing army present during times of no war is highly against the principles this nation was founded upon. Further, it is my estimation that a drafted peacetime army only provides ample cannon fodder for the ambitions of evil politicians, enabling them to ramble around the world using threat of force against other nations to make themselves feel important.

The lives of our young men should not be wasted through involuntary servitude nor in waging unconstitutional acts of murder at the behest of beady eyed politicians.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-11-16   8:53:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#29. To: SonOfLiberty (#27)

Disagree. I served in the military, voluntarily, in a very dangerous capacity. I would never shirk from doing what's right even at the risk of my life.

Very extensive contradiction there.

NO ONE is ever totally a volunteer, NO ONE.

The term volunteer has to be viewed as TWO distinct groups when the term is applied to the military. Had you and others NOT volunteered, then most likely you would have been dragooned in, especially in war time.

The term "involuntary servitude" begs the question, do we believe it was coined by one of the masses or by someone higher up the social scale????

It is a legal term that bears a Statute of Law by name, a term used by those that are willing others go but not themselves.

Here is the Act..

"Title 18, U.S.C., Sec. 1584, makes it a Federal crime or offense for anyone to willfully hold another person in involuntary servitude."

As you see, the law does not apply to any of us that "volunteered" or were drafted.

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