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Title: Obama Will Push 'To Give Legal Status To An Estimated 12 Million Illegal Immigrants' Early Next Year : Under the administration’s plan, illegal immigrants would have to register, pay fines and all taxes they owe, pass a criminal background check and learn English.
Source: www.post-gazette.com
URL Source: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09318/1013585-84.stm
Published: Nov 14, 2009
Author: By JULIA PRESTON
Post Date: 2009-11-14 14:25:56 by Mind_Virus
Keywords: None
Views: 206
Comments: 14

White House Plan on Immigration Includes Legal Status Saturday, November 14, 2009 By JULIA PRESTON, The New York Times

The Obama administration will insist on measures to give legal status to an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants as it pushes early next year for legislation to overhaul the immigration system, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said on Friday.

In her first major speech on the overhaul, Ms. Napolitano dispelled any suggestion that the administration -- with health care, energy and other major issues crowding its agenda -- would postpone the most contentious piece of immigration legislation until after midterm elections next November.

Laying out the administration's bottom line, Ms. Napolitano said officials would argue for a "three-legged stool" that includes tougher enforcement laws against illegal immigrants and employers who hire them and a streamlined system for legal immigration, as well as a "tough and fair pathway to earned legal status."

With unemployment surging over 10 percent and Congress still wrangling over health care, advocates on all sides of the immigration debate had begun to doubt that President Obama would keep his pledge to tackle the divisive illegal immigration issue in the first months of 2010.

Speaking at the Center for American Progress, a liberal policy group in Washington, Ms. Napolitano unveiled a double-barrel argument for a legalization program, saying it would enhance national security and, as the economy climbs out of recession, protect American workers from unfair competition from lower-paid, easily exploited illegal immigrants.

"Let me emphasize this: we will never have fully effective law enforcement or national security as long as so many millions remain in the shadows," she said, adding that the recovering economy would be strengthened "as these immigrants become full-paying taxpayers."

Under the administration's plan, illegal immigrants who hope to gain legal status would have to register, pay fines and all taxes they owe, pass a criminal background check and learn English.

Drawing a contrast with 2007, when a bill with legalization provisions offered by President George W. Bush failed in Congress, Ms. Napolitano said the Obama administration had achieved a "fundamental change" in border security and enforcement against employers hiring illegal immigrants. She said a sharp reduction in the flow of illegal immigrants into the country created an opportunity to move ahead with a legalization program.

Some Republicans were quick to challenge Ms. Napolitano's claims that border security had significantly improved or that American workers would be helped by bringing illegal immigrants into the system.

"How can they claim that enforcement is done when there are more than 400 open miles of border with Mexico?" asked Representative Lamar Smith of Texas, the senior Republican on the House Judiciary Committee. He said the administration should "deport illegal immigrant workers so they don't remain here to compete with citizen and legal immigrant job seekers."

But Senator John Cornyn of Texas, the top Republican on the Judiciary subcommittee on immigration, agreed that it was time to open the immigration debate. "My commitment to immigration reform has not changed," he said in a statement Friday. "I am interested in seeing a proposal sooner rather than later from President Obama."

Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York and the chairman of that subcommittee, has been writing an overhaul bill and consulting with Republicans, particularly Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. Mr. Schumer said that the administration's agenda was "ambitious," but that he was "confident we can have a bipartisan immigration bill ready to go under whatever timeline the president thinks is best."

Ms. Napolitano has been leading the administration's efforts to gather ideas and support for the immigration overhaul, meeting in recent weeks with business leaders, religious groups, law enforcement officials and others to gauge their willingness to go forward with a debate in Congress.

Framing the administration's proposals in stark law and order terms, she said immigration legislation should include tougher laws against migrant smugglers and more severe sanctions for employers who hire unauthorized workers.

Ms. Napolitano said that the Border Patrol had grown by 20,000 officers and that more than 600 miles of border fence had been finished, meeting security benchmarks set by Congress in 2007. She was echoing an argument adopted by Mr. Bush after the bill collapsed in 2007, and by Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, in his race against Mr. Obama. They said Americans wanted to see effective enforcement before they would agree to legal status for millions of illegal immigrants.

Some immigrant advocates were dismayed by Ms. Napolitano's approach. Benjamin E. Johnson, executive director of the American Immigration Council, praised her package of proposals, but said some enforcement policies she outlined "have proven to do more harm than good."

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#1. To: Mind_Virus (#0)

This sounds exactly like the Bush/McCain plan to me.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-11-14   14:27:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#1)

You thought there was a choice? If you did, I'll bet you even still vote.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-11-14   14:32:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Mind_Virus (#0)

At 10%+ unemployment, this is a non-starter and Obama will collapse in the polls as will anyone who supports this.

Keep it going, folks. Keep it going!

COMRADE! Why are you not showing your Party affiliation and showing proper respect for Dear Leader? Put your Barackstika armband on RIGHT NOW!

mirage  posted on  2009-11-14   14:35:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Sam Houston (#2)

You thought there was a choice? If you did, I'll bet you even still vote.

As a matter of fact, I didn't vote this time.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-11-14   14:39:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#1)

This sounds exactly like the Bush/McCain plan to me.

It is nothing more than the epitome or manifestation of Marxist dialectical materialism or Engels' laws of dialectics.

Because many, if not most of top bureaucrats and elected American publick leaders do not have core values for and about America based upon established frameworks they tend to intellectualize their concepts to improve on the constitutional foundations without restraint or hesitation.

America has no principles anymore and so you see refinements of old arguments that shall probably pass.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-11-14   14:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: mirage (#3)

As long as there are only two "choices" controlled by the same shadow government, what frickin' difference does it make?

Oh my. "The sheeple" don't approve! We're scared. NOT.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-11-14   14:47:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Sam Houston (#6)

As long as there are only two "choices" controlled by the same shadow government, what frickin' difference does it make?

There is one thing the shadow government fears and that is a pack of angry serfs. Angry serfs tend to do very unpredictable things, like occasionally taking matters into their own hands and voting from the rooftops.

Why do you think the Tea Parties are being hammered and ridiculed so mercilessly?

COMRADE! Why are you not showing your Party affiliation and showing proper respect for Dear Leader? Put your Barackstika armband on RIGHT NOW!

mirage  posted on  2009-11-14   14:51:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mirage (#7)

Why do you think the Tea Parties are being hammered and ridiculed so [un] mercilessly?

Fixed.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-11-14   14:53:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Mind_Virus (#0)

They will pass it, because treason is running full tilt in this country and nobody seems to care. Nobody understands what the betrayal is, or what the game being played is.

Balkanization of America is integral to the plan to break this nation. By legalizing 50 Million illegal aliens, which is in fact the REAL number, it creates 50 million new voters who will invariably vote SOCIALIST.

The only thing that should be done, is for American Citizens to hunt illegals, and repatriate them to their homelands. Every last one, and their anchor children.

Their children are NOT American Citizens by birth, and should not be allowed to stay. Send them all home.

Better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2009-11-14   15:24:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Sam Houston (#6)

As long as there are only two "choices" controlled by the same shadow government, what frickin' difference does it make?

Painfully, none. Here's a bumper sticker that's going around, for whatever it's worth: Prayer For Obama - Psalm 109:8

"The 'uniter' has brought the entire world together - to despise and deride us." lodwick

Bub  posted on  2009-11-14   17:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Mind_Virus (#0)

How the hell will anyone ever know the back taxes owed?

How will we ever verify that they are fluent in English?

Lod  posted on  2009-11-15   0:08:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mirage (#7) (Edited)

I hammer the Tea Partiers because the majority of them around here complain about the debt and deficits and then, in the same breath, call for an INCREASE in so-called "defense" spending.

There are too many warmongers in the movement. They actually shout down and boo those such as Ron Paul and Peter Schiff who are generally sympathetic to their cause, but who want to cut back on the empire.

The "gubmint" spending on trying to expand the empire is what destroyed the republic. And there's no getting it back. That's why I'm no longer politically active. All one can do now is hunker down in the rural with survival manuals.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-11-15   9:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Sam Houston (#12)

There are too many warmongers in the movement.

I agree, but I also have to say that it reminds me a lot of the Perotistas in 1992 who did a good job in scaring the living daylights out of Clinton and kept him mostly in line.

For that alone, I support the Tea Parties.

Actually, I support ANY non-violent movement that scares the living daylights out of the elite to the point where they have to expend time and effort in the manner they are currently.

COMRADE! Why are you not showing your Party affiliation and showing proper respect for Dear Leader? Put your Barackstika armband on RIGHT NOW!

mirage  posted on  2009-11-15   13:48:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: IDon'tThinkSo, all (#1)

This sounds exactly like the Bush/McCain plan to me.

There is one simple reason for that.

It is.

This is part of the Bankster/Psychiatrist operation to disrupt and divide the culture into dysfunctional subgroups.

Other Elements Include:

Feminism

Gay Rights/Marriage

CPS'ing kids out of good, but poor, homes.

Tying Welfare to illegitimacy thus encouraging it.

The gradual, but now noticeable, degradation of popular entertainment:

The penalization of traditional male behavior i.e., as the protector. Music Glorifying murder and sadistic sex.
Television programming appealing to the lowest possible levels and which being gradually taken lower and lower. Psychological manipulation and disconnects such as so-called "reality programs", more obvious ones such as "Ellen Degenerate", glorifying criminality and pushing the idea that it is uncool to tell the truth and behave morally, etc., ...

There are others but those serve my point. The allowing of a massive influx of illegal immigration from a foreign culture is to disrupt and destroy the existing culture because it is too resistant to totalitarian control.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-15   14:09:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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