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#50. To: Jethro Tull (#43)

The redistribution of wealth is theft by government.

Absolutely. Hard core leftists simply cannot and will not look at that very true factual item. They must always cloak it with gibberish to obscure that FACT. When you take by force the producion of one to give to another it is theft no matter how you sugar coat it and bury it in false justification.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-15   12:45:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: farmfriend (#49)

Like Hannity. He claims to be conservative but not Republican. Right. No, these kinds of people are why I left the party.

They also supposedly will support no candidate.... that all are beneath their precious effort to exert their voting rights......but try to alienate all posters who support certain candidates that are not mainstrean GOP.

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-15   12:48:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: farmfriend (#49)

If all conservatives are like yukon I want nothing to do with them.

Like Hannity. He claims to be conservative but not Republican. Right. No, these kinds of people are why I left the party.

Claiming to be a conservative and being a conservative are two totally separate items. One defines one's self by ones beliefs and actions. yuktard IS NOT a conservative, and neither is Vannity.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-15   12:48:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: mininggold (#52)

Oops meant to include you on the above.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-15   12:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: yukon (#48)

"I filter no poster, I fear no poster, I abdicate voluntarily. Best Wishes to all conservatives"......yukon

A rather strange choice of words, yucko. Definitions of abdicate on the Web:

"give up, such as power, as of monarchs and emperors, or duties and obligations...."
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

"Abdication......is the act of renouncing and resigning from a formal office, especially from the supreme office of state. ..."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdicate

"To surrender, renounce or relinquish, as sovereign power; to withdraw definitely from filling or exercising, as a high office, station, dignity ..."
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/abdicate

"abdication - a formal resignation and renunciation of powers...."
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

"To formally give up power. When a monarch gives up his throne, for example."
www.saburchill.com/history/hist003.html

Big Meanie  posted on  2009-11-15   13:03:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Big Meanie (#54)

I thought the same thing. When dealing with y'tard, I usually just take the simplifying assumption that he's almost too stupid to breathe without help, but that was a very curious "parting statement."

Samuel Gray  posted on  2009-11-15   13:05:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Big Meanie (#54)

"To surrender, renounce or relinquish, as sovereign power; to withdraw definitely from filling or exercising, as a high office, station, dignity ..."

"Abdication......is the act of renouncing and resigning from a formal office, especially from the supreme office of state. ..."

lol.......makes perfect sense in the mind of Yukon. I don't think he could have opted for a more appropriate verb choice in light of the grandiose vision he has of himself and his importance on LP.

abraxas  posted on  2009-11-15   13:11:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: farmfriend (#49)

Like Hannity

Connie Hair, who posted as Cal on both the FR and LP, was invited by Goldi to post on LP just prior to the Iraqi war. Connie Hair was a semi-regular call in to the Hannity and Limbaugh shows. It was a first name basis w/Hannity. She brought lots of paid R shills to LP in '03, despite our screaming and shouting about the obvious. It fractured LP, forcing us who despised the Neos into exile. We've been here since with some LP'ers now getting on board - and to them, welcome. It's never too late to wake up.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-11-15   13:12:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Big Meanie (#54)

Sometimes, yukon used polysyllables in methods and ways to just get a point across. He was far from being a leader in technical discussion; he was a caricature upon political chit-chat channels. In a sense, I am thinking of a tribute, a final toast in his honour.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-11-15   13:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Big Meanie (#54)

A rather strange choice of words, yucko. Definitions of abdicate on the Web:

Typical psychopath behavior. I really don't think that poster is acting. He will also think that the site will not survive without his precious input so he's taking his toys and leaving if he can't further manipulate.

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-15   13:16:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Jethro Tull (#57)

We've been here since with some LP'ers now getting on board - and to them, welcome. It's never too late to wake up.

Shame on you, JT. You forgot FR and FU within the confines of your single post. You have ensured that you won't be pronouncing my eulogy.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-11-15   13:19:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: FormerLurker, christine (#39)

I noticed yukon pick up the baton for BAC once Goldi canned him. More than likely, whoever was filling the BAC role just switched over to one of the yukon shift assignments.

Yes, I noticed that too. When BAC was banned yuktard who had not paid me much attention up to that point became much more aggressive in attacking me personally.

BAC's key tactic was the team written book length posts which were intended to fatigue the opposition. He admitted such indirectly in one of our exchanges. It took me some time to finally evolve a tactic which negated it i.e., to go through and pick out several key items of disinformation and use them to discredit the entire post. That came of necessity at first - I had made a particularly telling post and BAC wrote 5 or so mega posts to try to discredit it, and so rather than spending a day eviscerating each post I went through and picked out the false premise in each, pointed it out, and thus demonstrating the entire post was predicated upon a falsehood/disinformation. When christine limited the number of posts he could make that made the tactic much less effective and thus its cessation altogether. I still think his banning from El Pee was a con job to make it more plausible for him to shift forums.

I think you are right though that BAC and yukon are part of the same team.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-15   13:29:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: mininggold, Big Meanie, FormerLurker (#59)

A rather strange choice of words, yucko. Definitions of abdicate on the Web:

Typical psychopath behavior. I really don't think that poster is acting. He will also think that the site will not survive without his precious input so he's taking his toys and leaving if he can't further manipulate.

Or it simply means that the yukon perona's tactic of disruption through name calling and agitation has been reduced in effectiveness to the point where it is no longer productive in preventing discussion.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-15   13:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: buckeroo, FormerLurker, TwentyTwelve (#58)

Sometimes, yukon used polysyllables in methods and ways to just get a point across. He was far from being a leader in technical discussion; he was a caricature upon political chit-chat channels. In a sense, I am thinking of a tribute, a final toast in his honour.

I forget who first uncovered it - FL or 2012 but yuktard could not perform simple Algebra. That was an interesting datum.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-15   13:36:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Original_Intent (#62)

Or it simply means that the yukon perona's tactic of disruption through name calling and agitation has been reduced in effectiveness to the point where it is no longer productive in preventing discussion.

Probably that too especially when even one's chief enabler isn't biting anymore. Psychopaths will usually find each other but they tire of each other quickly as they find each other so damned predictable!

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-15   13:38:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Jethro Tull (#41)

I get the point you was making. I like the term you made up. :)

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-11-15   13:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: mininggold (#51)

On Hannity. In 2000 he said he would never support a pro abort presidential candidate. In 2008 he was pushing pro abort Rudy.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-11-15   13:40:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Jethro Tull (#57)

It's never too late to wake up.

Good thing too as it took me a while.


"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-11-15   13:46:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: mininggold (#51)

.but try to alienate all posters who support certain candidates that are not mainstrean GOP.

Sadly they do their job well. Many are waking up though and will no longer vote "lesser of two evils."


"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-11-15   13:47:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Original_Intent (#52)

One defines one's self by ones beliefs and actions. yuktard IS NOT a conservative, and neither is Vannity.

Agreed and agreed. I too am not a conservative. I'm a classic liberal. I believe in limited government and greater personal freedom under the rule of law coupled with personal responsibility.


"Greenhouse gases do not act as a blanket around the earth and they do not keep the atmosphere warm. ... greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and this ongoing radiation loss tends to cool the atmosphere at between 1C and 2C per day, a fact known for more than 50 years. And yet we continue to get the simplistic explanation that greenhouse gases warm the atmosphere and so more greenhouse gases will warm the atmosphere more. No wonder the public is taken in!" --William Kininmonth, meteorologist , 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-11-15   13:49:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: farmfriend (#69)

I too am not a conservative. I'm a classic liberal. I believe in limited government and greater personal freedom under the rule of law coupled with personal responsibility.

I can see why you got bounced from LP. Saying things like that makes heads explode over there.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-11-15   13:55:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Original_Intent (#61)

so rather than spending a day eviscerating each post I went through and picked out the false premise in each, pointed it out, and thus demonstrating the entire post was predicated upon a falsehood/disinformation

BAC would also send me lenghty dissertations, which took more time to read than most people could stand, and it wasn't just one or two once in awhile, it was a constant barrage. That alone indicates he couldn't have possibly written it all himself in that period of time.

What I'd do to piss him off is just pick out one or two key items he was trying to say, then turn them against him with a short paragraph or two.

What would have taken an hour to respond to I did in minutes by using an abbreviated response to his 3 page essay, and I could sense his frustration...

ROTFLOL!!!


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-15   13:56:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve (#63)

I forget who first uncovered it - FL or 2012 but yuktard could not perform simple Algebra.

Either he couldn't or WOULDN'T accept a simple algebraic answer to a problem, because it would have proven me right and him wrong.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-15   13:59:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: mininggold (#48)

If all conservatives are like yukon I want nothing to do with them.

yukkie had to make lurkers and low IQ folks over there THINK he was "on their side", so of course he'd try to associate himself with "conservatives" since many there "think" they are conservative, but more than likely view themselves that way simply because they are "anti-DemRat"...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-15   14:02:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: FormerLurker (#73)

yukkie had to make lurkers and low IQ folks over there THINK he was "on their side", so of course he'd try to associate himself with "conservatives" since many there "think" they are conservative, but more than likely view themselves that way simply because they are "anti-DemRat"...

What do you think of my good friend, missquiddle on LP?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-11-15   14:07:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: FormerLurker (#73)

315. To: domer, Goldi-Lox (#174) Do you really think any adult would put in unpaid work to maintain a website so imbeciles like you can post pictures of feces? Even if you do think you and her are in agreement on some issues?

AGAviator posted on 2009-11-15 13:57:55 ET

AGAviator shoots and scores, then another member of the LP 'brain-trussed' weighs in with this:

Classic Alinsky tactic. Use their own rules against them.

AGAviator couldn't care less about pictures of feces. Gotta look deeper to figure out what his motivation is.

22rifle posted on 2009-11-15 14:04:04 ET

So, now, insisting that both sides play by the rules is a 'commie tactic'? What's the story on this guy (.22 rifle)? He likes to maintain the illusion that he's monitoring posts, posters, etc, and accumulating information on them.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2009-11-15   14:08:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: FormerLurker (#71)

What I'd do to piss him off is just pick out one or two key items he was trying to say, then turn them against him with a short paragraph or two.

What would have taken an hour to respond to I did in minutes by using an abbreviated response to his 3 page essay, and I could sense his frustration...

Cool. He never tried that tactic with me, but another shill on another site, Liberty Forum, tried a similar tactic - trying to tie me up in responding to philosophic points.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-15   14:13:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: FormerLurker (#72)

I forget who first uncovered it - FL or 2012 but yuktard could not perform simple Algebra.

Either he couldn't or WOULDN'T accept a simple algebraic answer to a problem, because it would have proven me right and him wrong.

Yes, yuktard is logic averse. It is like waving a Cross at a Vampire. The moment he accepts logic he becomes trapped into following a line of reasoning to a forced conclusion.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-15   14:15:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Samuel Gray (#75)

Classic Alinsky tactic. Use their own rules against them.

Alinsky Tactic is the magic phrase that Goldi uses to ban people who resort to logic.

22rifle knows what he's doing here.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-11-15   14:17:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#78)

These goddamn people are cartoons.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2009-11-15   14:18:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Samuel Gray (#79)

These goddamn people are cartoons.

I see domer has completely taken over the yukon role, and along with 22rifle is working tirelessly to send the few remaining rational posters to the land of the banned.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-11-15   14:26:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#80)

I see domer has completely taken over the yukon role, and along with 22rifle is working tirelessly to send the few remaining rational posters to the land of the banned.

That would seem to be the case. He's a nasty little piece of work.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2009-11-15   14:28:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#80)

339. To: domer, AGAviator (#338)

ROTFLMAO You must have finished your morning beating and raping of your wife and daughters and have a few spare minutes to turn you religions poison on the infidels.

Thank goodness Goldie has newer stricter rules against constant flamebaiting. I can see how much it's helped the tone of the forum already. :)

TooConservative posted on 2009-11-15 14:28:16 ET

What's the over/under on TC's imminent banning?

Samuel Gray  posted on  2009-11-15   14:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Jethro Tull, arator (#57)

"(Connie Hair) brought lots of paid R shills to LP in '03, despite our screaming and shouting about the obvious. It fractured LP, forcing us who despised the Neos into exile. We've been here since with some LP'ers now getting on board - and to them, welcome. It's never too late to wake up."

It was obvious to MANY people what was happening at LP at least as long ago as year 2004 when arator posted this to Goldi-lox:

"There are rumblings about in the forum about your moderation among anti-war independents. There are murmerings of discontent. Some are even discussing where we should all go when LP becomes TOS. I happened upon them by happenstance this morning. They were posted without my knowledge or instigation. I've flagged you too them, because they are indicative that, while not all are as out front and vocal as I, many are equally troubled by what you are setting about to do to this forum....As we've seen at TOS, one bad moderator can do one hell of a lot of damage and ruin a very good thing..... I really hope that history does not repeat itself here."

Arator posted on 2004-04-13 12:31:35 ET Reply Trace ... Link

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And if a retard like Badeye could see what was happening in 2006, when he made his famous statement to Goldi-lox that it was time to thin the herd again, then anyone could see it:

114. To: Goldi-Lox (#0)

"I'd say after reading this thread its time for you to think the herd again, Goldi."

Badeye posted on 2006-11-01 17:15:52 ET Reply Trace.... Link

If some people didn't leave LP when this place first opened up, and continued to post at LP in spite of it being what it is, it wasn't necessarily because they were asleep, but rather because that's where the enemy is.

Big Meanie  posted on  2009-11-15   14:41:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: mininggold (#59)

"Typical psychopath behavior. I really don't think (yukon) is acting."

I don't think yukon is acting either. I think the following post is a good example of how clueless he is:

"Obnoxious ashholes never seem to realize what they are and the effect they have on sane people."

yukon posted on 2008-09-27 02:13:14 ET Reply Trace.... Link

Big Meanie  posted on  2009-11-15   14:52:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Big Meanie (#84)

And demonstrates, like Mad Dog when accusing someone else of misogyny, that he has not mastered, or what is more likely, has no inkling of the meaning or concept of irony.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2009-11-15   14:55:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Samuel Gray (#82)

What's the over/under on TC's imminent banning?

He's living on borrowed time, but doesn't know it yet.

More of Goldi's vultures, Parrot .... and White Sands have joined in on the kill.

Those new rules of Goldi's are being completely ignored by her people. If TC mentions that to her, he's gone immediately.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-11-15   14:56:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#86)

Yup. And .22rifle (such a small 'rifle' for such a large bore...) has moved to the forefront of the attack group.

Meanwhile, Goldi's blithely posting on the same thread where her monkeys are flinging shit with a post about how much she misses a deceased former Freeper.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2009-11-15   14:58:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Original_Intent (#62)

".... the yukon perona's tactic of disruption through name calling and agitation has been reduced in effectiveness to the point where it is no longer productive in preventing discussion."

Goldi used him to drive away anyone with a brain. He's of no use to her anymore.

Big Meanie  posted on  2009-11-15   15:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: buckeroo (#74)

What do you think of my good friend, missquiddle on LP?

Can't say I've had many exchanges with her, and I haven't seen many of her posts so I can't form an opinion.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-11-15   15:04:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: FormerLurker (#71)

"(Beachooser) would also send me lenghty dissertations, which took more time to read than most people could stand...."

Then he bragged that he was almost always the last guy standing after everyone else goes home.

Big Meanie  posted on  2009-11-15   15:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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