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Title: You should check this out! Homeland Security Policy Institute - Nidal Hasan was an advisor
Source: Email
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Published: Nov 18, 2009
Author: buckeroo
Post Date: 2009-11-18 12:29:37 by buckeroo
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Views: 833
Comments: 126

Now we have a little insight into why Obama said to not jump to conclusions about Nidal Hasan and why Congressmen were not briefed before the press leak.

This murdering Muslim Terrorist who killed and wounded the soldiers and civilians at Ft Hood, Texas was an advisor to Obama's Homeland Security team. Look on page 29 of the Homeland Security Institute link below.

I wonder how many more skeletons there are to come to of the cupboard. Who else is there in the government or its numerous advisors or Czars that will harm our country and citizens?

Homeland Security Policy Institute Go to the appendix listing the participants and look at page number 29, scroll down to the 8th name on the Left Column


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#1. To: buckeroo (#0)

This murdering Muslim Terrorist who killed and wounded the soldiers and civilians at Ft Hood, Texas was an advisor to Obama's Homeland Security team. Look on page 29 of the Homeland Security Institute link below.

Homeland Security Policy Institute Go to the appendix listing the participants and look at page number 29, scroll down to the 8th name on the Left Column

Great find...

There it is:

THINKING ANEW—SECURITY PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION

(page 29)

Nidal Hasan
Uniformed Services University School of Medicine

Imagine what the MSM Headlines SHOULD be:

'0bama Homeland Security Muslim Adviser Murders 14 In Cold Blood'

Bamster's taking ZERO heat for nominating a Mass Murdering Muzzie?? Gee, I wonder why not? I wonder how 0bama & Co. has buried what should have been a NEWSFLASH - even till now...

(ahem) Will anyone here step up and defend either 0bama, Nadal, or hiring Muslims for Homeland Security? Geez - I've been told adherents of the Religion of Peace are so benign, no different than...say Christians.... right?

Let's hear it.

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-18   13:39:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Liberator (#1) (Edited)

Bamster's taking ZERO heat for nominating a Mass Murdering Muzzie?? Gee, I wonder why not? I wonder how 0bama & Co. has buried what should have been a NEWSFLASH - even till now...

(ahem) Will anyone here step up and defend either 0bama, Nadal, or hiring Muslims for Homeland Security? Geez - I've been told adherents of the Religion of Peace are so benign, no different than...say Christians.... right?

Let's hear it.

The link mentions he was there between June 2008 and Feb 2009.... something I knew you would not quote. Seems like good ol Bush was the pres when Nidal was attending those events and he actually stopped within days of Obmama taking office. If you guys want to be taking seriously you need to be at least somewhat accurate.

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-25   12:49:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mininggold (#2)

Liberator: (ahem) Will anyone here step up and defend either 0bama, Nadal, or hiring Muslims for Homeland Security? Geez - I've been told adherents of the Religion of Peace are so benign, no different than...say Christians.... right? Let's hear it.

mininggold: "If you guys want to be taking seriously you need to be at least somewhat accurate."

Hey you leftist pro-Muslim hag - why not write or contact the surviving family members and friends of these Americans and ask them how "seriously" they need to take 0bama, Nadal, and Muslims?:

Was it "somewhat accurate" to point out that Nadal was a Muslim? That he cried "ALLAHU AKBAR!!" while gunning down over 50 American soldiers?

Is it "somewhat accurate" that Islam is NOT "A Religion of Peace"??

Is it "somewhat accurate" that Nadal performed his dirty deed as he was under investigation?

Is it "somewhat accurate" that WHILE as a participant of Homeland Security Policy Institute's Presidential Transition Task Force (as your Barry F. N. 0bama was President) he shot over 50 people?

IF someone was going to defend this Muslim's mass murder of Americans on ANY level, I expected it from you, you embarrassing stupid sack of diseased donkey sh*t.

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   1:16:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Liberator (#3) (Edited)

IF someone was going to defend this Muslim's mass murder of Americans on ANY level, I expected it from you, you embarrassing stupid sack of diseased donkey sh*t.

Show me one post where I've stated I'm pro Muslim or stick a sock in it Queeny. Whatsamatta your beloved's website down again today? We all know accurracy is not one of your priorities. lolol

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-30   1:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mininggold (#4)

Show me one post where I've stated I'm pro Muslim or stick a sock in it...

You've combined a defense of 0bama, Islam, and by association and context, Nadal in your post #2. And then there is your ideological reputation.

Btw - NO ONE with an IQ about a lizard's temperature is going to take you seriously, weaselgold.

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   1:58:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: mininggold (#3)

ANY time you want to address my questions at post #4, have at it...

Are ANY of them they "somewhat accurate"??

Tick...tick...tick...

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   2:01:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Liberator (#5)

You've combined a defense of 0bama, Islam, and by association and context, Nadal in your post #2. And then there is your ideological reputation

I said it happened under Bush, which it did, and which you neglected in your usual manner to mention.

Yet evidently you excuse Bush's behavior since it happened on his watch and since he also created the damned DHS.....

I prefer Ron Paul's ideology.... he would have never created the DHS.

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-30   2:06:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Liberator (#6)

If I had known I was on your clock I would have never posted 7, as I am not a shill like you.

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-30   2:07:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: mininggold (#7)

Hasan's job as a psychologist was to treat soldiers with Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome, and part of that job was listening to servicemen who had wrongly killed civilians or who knew of people who had wrongly killed civilians.

So if anybody wants a reason why Hasan flipped out, should first start looking at what he heard his fellow servicemen tell him about war crimes they knew of, and then put his being a Muslim a few steps below that factor.

The only reason his being a Muslim had anything to do with it is because he idendified with the people the other soldiers killed or otherwise mistreated.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-11-30   2:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: AGAviator (#9)

So if anybody wants a reason why Hasan flipped out, should first start looking at what he heard his fellow servicemen tell him about war crimes they knew of, and then put his being a Muslim a few steps below that factor.

The guy needs to pay for what he did no matter the rationale and then those who were aware of his behaviors and allowed his apparent escalation should have their heads legally roll too.

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-30   2:20:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mininggold (#7)

I said it happened under Bush, which it did, and which you neglected in your usual manner to mention.

What part of "Presidential Transition Task Force " don't you understand??

Nadal practiced his Muslim hatred and killer customs while the Muslim 0bama was President.

I prefer Ron Paul's ideology.... he would have never created the DHS.

Nice diversion, but you sidestepped the Muslim connection, while failing to hold 0bama responsible in any way...WHILE, demonstrating NO remorse for the murdered or blame of a fanatical Muslim murderer.

One can construe your response as tacit approval.

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   2:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: AGAviator (#9) (Edited)

If anybody wants a reason why Hasan flipped out, should first start looking at what he heard his fellow servicemen tell him about war crimes they knew of, and then put his being a Muslim a few steps below that factor.

Oh, bullsh*t.

And HOW the hell would you have regarded the same flip-out "syndrome" had someone heard nurses tell stories of the thousands of unborn babies ripped limb-from-limb, and reacted by shooting 50 staffers at an abortion mill and murdered 14 abortion doctors and nurses??

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   2:29:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Liberator (#11)

One can construe your response as tacit approval.

If you think I care what you think you really do not listen do you?

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-30   2:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mininggold (#13)

If you think I care what you think...

You apparently do...very much.

I'm flattered.

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   2:31:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Liberator, mininggold (#12)

Since there are thousands of service people who are Muslim and who haven't mass murdered, your feeble little brain will need to come up with some other explanation than his religious and ethnic background.

Like when a black person starts shooting cops because he thinks he's Jesus, are you going to blame Christianity?

If and when El Pee gets back up and running, maybe a cartoon or two by Trash aka Cash will get your head back into it.

And HOW the hell would you have regarded the same flip-out "syndrome" had someone heard nurses tell stories of the thousands of unborn babies ripped limb- from-limb, and reacted by shooting 50 staffers

I'm sure a few people here and there have done exactly that.

But as long as we're on the (changed) subject of abortion, who aborts more babies - Muslims or Christians?

AGAviator  posted on  2009-11-30   2:38:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: AGAviator (#15)

Since there are thousands of service people who are Muslim and who haven't mass murdered, your feeble little brain will need to come up with some other explanation than his religious and ethnic background.

ALL it takes as a minority of aggressive cancer cells, and the body is inevitably overrun.

Look - Just because ALL Muslims haven't acted upon the most egregious commandment of the Koran (to murder the Infidel), or may be giving tacit approval to their anti-Western disdain, doesn't mean they're aren't ready to move on a dime.

Islam is ANATHEMA to Western civilization and culture - TOTALLY incompatible. WE have tolerated them; Islam tolerates NO non-Muslim culture. That you can NOT comprehend even these most fundamental polar differences make you quite the simpleton.

Like when a black person starts shooting cops because he thinks he's Jesus, are you going to blame Christianity?

No....I'm gonna blame the psychiatric "profession," political correctness, and the nattering nabobs of nitwitism. Oh...and has that occurred yet? Link me.

I'm sure a few people [Christians] here and there have done exactly that [reacted by shooting 50 abortion staffers.]

Please provide ONE link; That's all I ask.

But as long as we're on the (changed) subject of abortion, who aborts more babies - Muslims or Christians?

NO real "Christian" murders babies. NONE...

OTOH, is has been demonstrably PROVEN that Muslims target non-Muslims for cold-blooded murder (and even their own) for nothing more than worshiping as they wish, and for living as free men and women.

Do you deny this to be the case?

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   3:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Liberator (#3)

"Will anyone here step up and defend either 0bama, Nadal, or hiring Muslims for Homeland Security?"

See post #3:

"Seems like good ol Bush was the pres when Nidal was attending those events and he actually stopped within days of Obmama taking office."

Big Meanie  posted on  2009-11-30   3:04:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Liberator (#16)

Islam is ANATHEMA to Western civilization and culture - TOTALLY incompatible. WE have tolerated them; Islam tolerates NO non-Muslim culture. That you can NOT comprehend even these most fundamental polar differences make you quite the simpleton.

It is quite clear you have not known any Muslims personally to be making statements like that.

You get your misinformation about Islam from proJewish agitators and ignorant white $hitheels.

The fact of the matter is that your Jews who are leading around you gullible little goyim, coexisted with Muslims for centuries, and attained high positions in the Arab, Moorish, and Ottoman Empires.

So much for "slaughtering the infidel."

NO real "Christian" murders babies. NONE...

And no "real" Muslim does anything bad either, with as much authority as you make your stupid claim.

OTOH, is has been demonstrably PROVEN that Muslims target non-Muslims for cold-blooded murder (and even their own) for nothing more than worshiping as they wish, and for living as free men and women.

Do you deny this to be the case?

***PROVEN*** by whom, pinhead? You Internet Know-Nothings who dabble in comparative religion in between your blatherings about firearms, gay sex, and Sarah Palin?

LOLOL!!!!

AGAviator  posted on  2009-11-30   3:09:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: AGAviator, Liberator (#18)

Hahahaha....

I couldn't have said it better.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-11-30   3:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Liberator (#14)

I'm flattered.

Only women care if they are flattered Queeny.

I was trying to correct your misstatements and omissions, and get you to show your lack of ethics and integrity in print. I was successful.

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-30   11:51:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator (#16)

the most egregious commandment of the Koran (to murder the Infidel),

Hi Lib - Out of curiousity, could you please quote and link me to the portion of the Koran that gives the commandment you mention? Thanks.

mel_living  posted on  2009-11-30   12:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: AGAviator (#18)

You get your misinformation about Islam from proJewish agitators and ignorant white $hitheels.

(Exhibit "A") "Misinformation"?? Duh. This is why you can be taken no more seriously than Robert Gibbs left-nut...or any number of CAIR shills and Imams...or any number of Muslim clowns in a circus clown-car.

The fact of the matter is that your Jews who are leading around you gullible little goyim, coexisted with Muslims for centuries, and attained high positions in the Arab, Moorish, and Ottoman Empires...So much for "slaughtering the infidel."

(EXHIBIT "B":) More so-called "facts"?? HA!! Whom do you actually believes your crap, Abdul? You stupid f**k-stick. Can you POSSIBLY be THIS dopey?

Your fantasies and revisionist history are the stuff of sanitarium-lifers.

***PROVEN*** [ "Muslims target non-Muslims for cold-blooded murder (and even their own) for nothing more than worshiping as they wish, and for living as free men and women."] by whom, pinhead? You Internet Know-Nothings who dabble in comparative religion in between your blatherings about firearms, gay sex, and Sarah Palin? LOLOL!!!!

EXHIBIT "C" is a hoot!! Now you've stumbled into the diversionary realm of "firearms, gay sex, and Sarah Palin," one thing is crystal clear: EPIC FAIL.

That you are actually attempting to refute the FACT that Muslims are cold-blooded POS cowards and murderers and a Death Cult is...a preposterous lie perpetrated by a pathological liar - YOU.

Hey - why don't you strap a bomb-belt on your pecker...find 50 US servicemen to shoot...roll a grenade into a tent of American GIs...crash a few passanger jetss into large buildings...become the new DC -Sniper...blow up more trains in Spain and Europe...launch a Fatwah upon all who LAUGH AT YOU!!

You and your supporters here are nothing but Dumbass Muslim apologists and clinical obsessive compulsives. HEY! I've got a pimple on my ass...The JOOS ARE RESPONSIBLE!! Bwaaahaa!!

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   13:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Liberator (#3)

HI Lib. :) I have some friends who are Muslim, and they are not violent at all. They are very thoughtful and good people, and they are proud Americans. BUT those do not seem to be the types of people Obama associates himself with.

It appears to me that Obama surrounds himself with people who want the destruction of freedom and they seem to want to dismantle our country's sovereignty.

I see that. I think the socialism that has creeped in to destroy America, has more to do with mental disease and self loathing, than it has to do with religious affiliation.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2009-11-30   13:57:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: diva betsy ross (#23)

HI Lib. :) I have some friends who are Muslim, and they are not violent at all. They are very thoughtful and good people, and they are proud Americans.

Hi Diva...

NOT buying the cliche that Muslims are "proud Americans." AT ALL.

Let them serve, spill blood, sacrifice, and put America FIRST. Let them lead Veterans Day parades. Independence Day festivities. Let them honor the religion, traditions, and heritage of America's Founders. What's that? They don't? Nevermind...

They are nothing SHEEP and parasite feeding off the past sacrifice and blood and sweat of Western concepts of liberty, capitalism, and tolerance.

Individual Muslims (or blacks for that matter) aren't necessarily "violent"...and neither are any ideological mutants, cults or raging lunatics UNTIL a catalyst kicks them into gear, or mob rules.

Were Muslims the majority just how "thoughtful and good" of people would they be? Come on - you're NOT this naive, are you?? ANY area of the WORLD where Islam become the dominant demographic proves otherwise (Africa, Indonesia, Middle East, Europe.)

Fundamentally ALL Muslims and their religion, culture and philosophy are ANTI-WEST...That makes them 100% anathema to our way of living. These people are only benign when they only comprise an extremely minority.

I think the socialism that has creeped in to destroy America, has more to do with mental disease and self loathing, than it has to do with religious affiliation.

Socialism/communism is closely related to secular humanism which is itself a "religion." Our collective problem as you well know is a spiritual disease or rather infestation. Yes, "self-loathing" and guilt as well play into this self-destructive, sado-masochistic syndrome...

The Elite fascists are facilitating this under the guise of "diversity," "anti-sovereignty," collectivism, and a one-world ecumenism of both politics and religion.

The gig is as it's always been - about power and greed.

BUT those do not seem to be the types of people Obama associates himself with. It appears to me that Obama surrounds himself with people who want the destruction of freedom and they seem to want to dismantle our country's sovereignty.

You DO realize 0bama is associated with Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright, Farrahkan, etal. Muslims? YES, HE IS ONE OF THEM! The guy is a proven Marxist and anti-American liar who wants nothing more then to take down the US as we know it (something about "Hope and Change".)

Geez Diva - COME ON!

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   14:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: mel_living (#21)

Out of curiousity, could you please quote and link me to the portion of the Koran that gives the commandment you mention? Thanks.

“But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them.” (Koran 4:89)

There will be those among them who will wish to gain your confidence and that of your people, Allah warns. “If they withdraw not from you nor give you (guarantees) of peace besides restraining their hands,” commands Allah, “seize them and slay them wherever you get them.” (Koran 4:91).

Need more?:

The Koran advises Muslims to:

* Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
* Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)
* When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
* Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
* Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
* The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
* Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)
* The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)
* Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies (22:19)
* Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
* The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
* Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
* Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)
* Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels (8:60)

So when will you be buying a ranch in Saudi Arabia, Mel?

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   14:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mininggold (#20)

Only women care if they are flattered Queeny [aka Liberator.].

That clearly omits you, doesn't it, Tumbleweeds? Or is it Helen Thomas Jr.?

I was trying to correct your misstatements and omissions, and get you to show your lack of ethics and integrity in print. I was successful.

You "were successful" in repeating ad nauseam you usual futility, mischaracterizations, and ditz-speak.

EXCELLENT "try."

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   14:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: wudidiz (#19)

Hahahaha....

I couldn't have said it better.

That's quite believable considering your abysmal level of articulation and understanding of normalcy FAILS 97.3% of the time.

The reason it's not 100% can be attributed to a 'Broken Clock' theory.

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   14:38:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Big Meanie (#17)

Big Meanie...What can I say about you that hasn't already been said?

I CAN always fart in your general direction...AGAIN.

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   14:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Liberator (#25)

Thank you for the info.

mel_living  posted on  2009-11-30   14:41:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Liberator (#24)

:) Lib- I mean only my own friends- who I know personally. My friends are very supportive of the military... (would *I* be friends with anyone who isn't??)

I agree with you about the radical Muslims like those you listed- and yes- it is a concern that Obama is friends with those kinds of people, but I just can't make the leap that all Muslims are bad. That just hasn't been my life's experience. I think all liberals are mental.... THAT I can prove 100 different ways.

You think I am *pie in the sky* naive, don't you?? ;) (It's ok if you do- I luv you anyway).

diva betsy ross  posted on  2009-11-30   18:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Liberator (#27)

Believe what the TV tells you.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-11-30   22:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Liberator (#22) (Edited)

I notice a lot of hot air in your posts and no specifics.

This is your jooish logic at work.

Your jooish logic may pass muster on El Pee, it won't on this site which is a free speech forum.

Now what specifics do you have to rebut my statement that Jews coexisted various in various Muslim empires for centuries, which totally demolishes your premise that Muslims are out to slaughter the infidel at all costs?

If and when you get done with that - not likely - you can then comment on your specious claim that whenever a Christian does something violent, he is not acting as a Christian, but when a Muslim does something violent, he in your opinion is acting as a Muslim and not an individual.

The fact is that you find violent and peaceful people everywhere in all circumstances and only idiots like yourself make sweeping generalizations about "Good Christian, Evil Mooslum."

You $hit for brains Middle Eastern kooks are hell bent on running the United States of America into oblivion. The WOT is a pretty good start in that direction, just as OBL hoped it would be.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-01   0:42:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mel_living (#21)

Hi Lib - Out of curiousity, could you please quote and link me to the portion of the Koran that gives the commandment you mention? Thanks.

There is no such quote.

The Koran is somewhat vague and ambiguous, but the parts that most explicitly deal with jihad state that you "fight in the way of Allah" and to observe boundaries i.e. proper conduct in war.

Furthermore there is a distinction in the Koran between "infidels" who are idol worshippers and pagans, and monothestic "People of the Book" who include Jews and Christians. Jews and Christians are not infidels according to the Koran.

Last but not least, if you want to see passages about annihliating your enemies, selling them into slavery, raping, plundering, and "Leave not alive anything that breathes," look no further than Deuteronomy in the Old Testament.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-01   0:47:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Liberator, all (#1) (Edited)

I am totally amused by you and the other anti-muslim hate mongers in that with your myopic outlook you consistently miss key data and focus on peripheral items.

The real question and focus should be why did this guy go off? It wasn't because he was a muslim. there are hundreds of millions of Muslims worldwide who did not go on a berserker killing spree that day.

Datum: He was a Psychiatrist.

Datum: Every one of the berserker killers in recent years has been on some form of SSRI Psychiatric drug. (Prozac is the most common but Eric Harris of Columbine fame was on Luvox.)

So, as a Psychiatrist, under pressure because he was about to be deployed into a war he disagreed with, could he have been on some form of anti-depressant? The military is handing them out like candy these days - particularly to troops in combat zones. So, it is reasonable to guess that he was most likely on some form of anti-depressant.

Last time I checked 2+2 still equalled 4.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-01   0:54:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: AGAviator, Liberator, all (#32)

Nicely put. Pungent with just a whiff of acid.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-01   0:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: AGAviator (#33)

I looked it up and saw the distortion of the interpretation. There are people who claim one religion or another that are simply - wacked.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-01   0:58:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: mel_living (#29)

Thank you for the info.

If you google those words they are cut and paste from blogs from the usual suspects.

Here is some original material.

Koran Translation

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-01   1:06:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: mel_living, Original_Intent (#36)

I looked it up and saw the distortion of the interpretation

Right after 4:89, there is another passage 4:90 which says don't fight people who have a treaty with you.

You wouldn't expect our wannabe propagadist to put those exculpatory words in, would you?

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-01   1:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: AGAviator (#38)

Typical for Zionazi Iarabots.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-01   1:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: AGAviator, mel_living, Original_Intent, liberator (#38)

You mean liberator wasn't being honest?


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-01   1:14:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: mel_living (#36)

[2.190] And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits.

[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-01   1:14:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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