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Title: You should check this out! Homeland Security Policy Institute - Nidal Hasan was an advisor
Source: Email
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Published: Nov 18, 2009
Author: buckeroo
Post Date: 2009-11-18 12:29:37 by buckeroo
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Views: 855
Comments: 126

Now we have a little insight into why Obama said to not jump to conclusions about Nidal Hasan and why Congressmen were not briefed before the press leak.

This murdering Muslim Terrorist who killed and wounded the soldiers and civilians at Ft Hood, Texas was an advisor to Obama's Homeland Security team. Look on page 29 of the Homeland Security Institute link below.

I wonder how many more skeletons there are to come to of the cupboard. Who else is there in the government or its numerous advisors or Czars that will harm our country and citizens?

Homeland Security Policy Institute Go to the appendix listing the participants and look at page number 29, scroll down to the 8th name on the Left Column


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#1. To: buckeroo (#0)

This murdering Muslim Terrorist who killed and wounded the soldiers and civilians at Ft Hood, Texas was an advisor to Obama's Homeland Security team. Look on page 29 of the Homeland Security Institute link below.

Homeland Security Policy Institute Go to the appendix listing the participants and look at page number 29, scroll down to the 8th name on the Left Column

Great find...

There it is:

THINKING ANEW—SECURITY PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION

(page 29)

Nidal Hasan
Uniformed Services University School of Medicine

Imagine what the MSM Headlines SHOULD be:

'0bama Homeland Security Muslim Adviser Murders 14 In Cold Blood'

Bamster's taking ZERO heat for nominating a Mass Murdering Muzzie?? Gee, I wonder why not? I wonder how 0bama & Co. has buried what should have been a NEWSFLASH - even till now...

(ahem) Will anyone here step up and defend either 0bama, Nadal, or hiring Muslims for Homeland Security? Geez - I've been told adherents of the Religion of Peace are so benign, no different than...say Christians.... right?

Let's hear it.

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-18   13:39:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Liberator (#1) (Edited)

Bamster's taking ZERO heat for nominating a Mass Murdering Muzzie?? Gee, I wonder why not? I wonder how 0bama & Co. has buried what should have been a NEWSFLASH - even till now...

(ahem) Will anyone here step up and defend either 0bama, Nadal, or hiring Muslims for Homeland Security? Geez - I've been told adherents of the Religion of Peace are so benign, no different than...say Christians.... right?

Let's hear it.

The link mentions he was there between June 2008 and Feb 2009.... something I knew you would not quote. Seems like good ol Bush was the pres when Nidal was attending those events and he actually stopped within days of Obmama taking office. If you guys want to be taking seriously you need to be at least somewhat accurate.

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-25   12:49:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mininggold (#2)

Liberator: (ahem) Will anyone here step up and defend either 0bama, Nadal, or hiring Muslims for Homeland Security? Geez - I've been told adherents of the Religion of Peace are so benign, no different than...say Christians.... right? Let's hear it.

mininggold: "If you guys want to be taking seriously you need to be at least somewhat accurate."

Hey you leftist pro-Muslim hag - why not write or contact the surviving family members and friends of these Americans and ask them how "seriously" they need to take 0bama, Nadal, and Muslims?:

Was it "somewhat accurate" to point out that Nadal was a Muslim? That he cried "ALLAHU AKBAR!!" while gunning down over 50 American soldiers?

Is it "somewhat accurate" that Islam is NOT "A Religion of Peace"??

Is it "somewhat accurate" that Nadal performed his dirty deed as he was under investigation?

Is it "somewhat accurate" that WHILE as a participant of Homeland Security Policy Institute's Presidential Transition Task Force (as your Barry F. N. 0bama was President) he shot over 50 people?

IF someone was going to defend this Muslim's mass murder of Americans on ANY level, I expected it from you, you embarrassing stupid sack of diseased donkey sh*t.

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   1:16:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Liberator (#3) (Edited)

IF someone was going to defend this Muslim's mass murder of Americans on ANY level, I expected it from you, you embarrassing stupid sack of diseased donkey sh*t.

Show me one post where I've stated I'm pro Muslim or stick a sock in it Queeny. Whatsamatta your beloved's website down again today? We all know accurracy is not one of your priorities. lolol

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-30   1:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mininggold (#4)

Show me one post where I've stated I'm pro Muslim or stick a sock in it...

You've combined a defense of 0bama, Islam, and by association and context, Nadal in your post #2. And then there is your ideological reputation.

Btw - NO ONE with an IQ about a lizard's temperature is going to take you seriously, weaselgold.

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   1:58:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: mininggold (#3)

ANY time you want to address my questions at post #4, have at it...

Are ANY of them they "somewhat accurate"??

Tick...tick...tick...

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   2:01:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Liberator (#5)

You've combined a defense of 0bama, Islam, and by association and context, Nadal in your post #2. And then there is your ideological reputation

I said it happened under Bush, which it did, and which you neglected in your usual manner to mention.

Yet evidently you excuse Bush's behavior since it happened on his watch and since he also created the damned DHS.....

I prefer Ron Paul's ideology.... he would have never created the DHS.

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-30   2:06:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Liberator (#6)

If I had known I was on your clock I would have never posted 7, as I am not a shill like you.

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-30   2:07:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: mininggold (#7)

Hasan's job as a psychologist was to treat soldiers with Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome, and part of that job was listening to servicemen who had wrongly killed civilians or who knew of people who had wrongly killed civilians.

So if anybody wants a reason why Hasan flipped out, should first start looking at what he heard his fellow servicemen tell him about war crimes they knew of, and then put his being a Muslim a few steps below that factor.

The only reason his being a Muslim had anything to do with it is because he idendified with the people the other soldiers killed or otherwise mistreated.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-11-30   2:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: AGAviator (#9)

So if anybody wants a reason why Hasan flipped out, should first start looking at what he heard his fellow servicemen tell him about war crimes they knew of, and then put his being a Muslim a few steps below that factor.

The guy needs to pay for what he did no matter the rationale and then those who were aware of his behaviors and allowed his apparent escalation should have their heads legally roll too.

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-30   2:20:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mininggold (#7)

I said it happened under Bush, which it did, and which you neglected in your usual manner to mention.

What part of "Presidential Transition Task Force " don't you understand??

Nadal practiced his Muslim hatred and killer customs while the Muslim 0bama was President.

I prefer Ron Paul's ideology.... he would have never created the DHS.

Nice diversion, but you sidestepped the Muslim connection, while failing to hold 0bama responsible in any way...WHILE, demonstrating NO remorse for the murdered or blame of a fanatical Muslim murderer.

One can construe your response as tacit approval.

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   2:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: AGAviator (#9) (Edited)

If anybody wants a reason why Hasan flipped out, should first start looking at what he heard his fellow servicemen tell him about war crimes they knew of, and then put his being a Muslim a few steps below that factor.

Oh, bullsh*t.

And HOW the hell would you have regarded the same flip-out "syndrome" had someone heard nurses tell stories of the thousands of unborn babies ripped limb-from-limb, and reacted by shooting 50 staffers at an abortion mill and murdered 14 abortion doctors and nurses??

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   2:29:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Liberator (#11)

One can construe your response as tacit approval.

If you think I care what you think you really do not listen do you?

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-30   2:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mininggold (#13)

If you think I care what you think...

You apparently do...very much.

I'm flattered.

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   2:31:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Liberator, mininggold (#12)

Since there are thousands of service people who are Muslim and who haven't mass murdered, your feeble little brain will need to come up with some other explanation than his religious and ethnic background.

Like when a black person starts shooting cops because he thinks he's Jesus, are you going to blame Christianity?

If and when El Pee gets back up and running, maybe a cartoon or two by Trash aka Cash will get your head back into it.

And HOW the hell would you have regarded the same flip-out "syndrome" had someone heard nurses tell stories of the thousands of unborn babies ripped limb- from-limb, and reacted by shooting 50 staffers

I'm sure a few people here and there have done exactly that.

But as long as we're on the (changed) subject of abortion, who aborts more babies - Muslims or Christians?

AGAviator  posted on  2009-11-30   2:38:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: AGAviator (#15)

Since there are thousands of service people who are Muslim and who haven't mass murdered, your feeble little brain will need to come up with some other explanation than his religious and ethnic background.

ALL it takes as a minority of aggressive cancer cells, and the body is inevitably overrun.

Look - Just because ALL Muslims haven't acted upon the most egregious commandment of the Koran (to murder the Infidel), or may be giving tacit approval to their anti-Western disdain, doesn't mean they're aren't ready to move on a dime.

Islam is ANATHEMA to Western civilization and culture - TOTALLY incompatible. WE have tolerated them; Islam tolerates NO non-Muslim culture. That you can NOT comprehend even these most fundamental polar differences make you quite the simpleton.

Like when a black person starts shooting cops because he thinks he's Jesus, are you going to blame Christianity?

No....I'm gonna blame the psychiatric "profession," political correctness, and the nattering nabobs of nitwitism. Oh...and has that occurred yet? Link me.

I'm sure a few people [Christians] here and there have done exactly that [reacted by shooting 50 abortion staffers.]

Please provide ONE link; That's all I ask.

But as long as we're on the (changed) subject of abortion, who aborts more babies - Muslims or Christians?

NO real "Christian" murders babies. NONE...

OTOH, is has been demonstrably PROVEN that Muslims target non-Muslims for cold-blooded murder (and even their own) for nothing more than worshiping as they wish, and for living as free men and women.

Do you deny this to be the case?

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   3:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Liberator (#3)

"Will anyone here step up and defend either 0bama, Nadal, or hiring Muslims for Homeland Security?"

See post #3:

"Seems like good ol Bush was the pres when Nidal was attending those events and he actually stopped within days of Obmama taking office."

Big Meanie  posted on  2009-11-30   3:04:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Liberator (#16)

Islam is ANATHEMA to Western civilization and culture - TOTALLY incompatible. WE have tolerated them; Islam tolerates NO non-Muslim culture. That you can NOT comprehend even these most fundamental polar differences make you quite the simpleton.

It is quite clear you have not known any Muslims personally to be making statements like that.

You get your misinformation about Islam from proJewish agitators and ignorant white $hitheels.

The fact of the matter is that your Jews who are leading around you gullible little goyim, coexisted with Muslims for centuries, and attained high positions in the Arab, Moorish, and Ottoman Empires.

So much for "slaughtering the infidel."

NO real "Christian" murders babies. NONE...

And no "real" Muslim does anything bad either, with as much authority as you make your stupid claim.

OTOH, is has been demonstrably PROVEN that Muslims target non-Muslims for cold-blooded murder (and even their own) for nothing more than worshiping as they wish, and for living as free men and women.

Do you deny this to be the case?

***PROVEN*** by whom, pinhead? You Internet Know-Nothings who dabble in comparative religion in between your blatherings about firearms, gay sex, and Sarah Palin?

LOLOL!!!!

AGAviator  posted on  2009-11-30   3:09:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: AGAviator, Liberator (#18)

Hahahaha....

I couldn't have said it better.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-11-30   3:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Liberator (#14)

I'm flattered.

Only women care if they are flattered Queeny.

I was trying to correct your misstatements and omissions, and get you to show your lack of ethics and integrity in print. I was successful.

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-30   11:51:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator (#16)

the most egregious commandment of the Koran (to murder the Infidel),

Hi Lib - Out of curiousity, could you please quote and link me to the portion of the Koran that gives the commandment you mention? Thanks.

mel_living  posted on  2009-11-30   12:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: AGAviator (#18)

You get your misinformation about Islam from proJewish agitators and ignorant white $hitheels.

(Exhibit "A") "Misinformation"?? Duh. This is why you can be taken no more seriously than Robert Gibbs left-nut...or any number of CAIR shills and Imams...or any number of Muslim clowns in a circus clown-car.

The fact of the matter is that your Jews who are leading around you gullible little goyim, coexisted with Muslims for centuries, and attained high positions in the Arab, Moorish, and Ottoman Empires...So much for "slaughtering the infidel."

(EXHIBIT "B":) More so-called "facts"?? HA!! Whom do you actually believes your crap, Abdul? You stupid f**k-stick. Can you POSSIBLY be THIS dopey?

Your fantasies and revisionist history are the stuff of sanitarium-lifers.

***PROVEN*** [ "Muslims target non-Muslims for cold-blooded murder (and even their own) for nothing more than worshiping as they wish, and for living as free men and women."] by whom, pinhead? You Internet Know-Nothings who dabble in comparative religion in between your blatherings about firearms, gay sex, and Sarah Palin? LOLOL!!!!

EXHIBIT "C" is a hoot!! Now you've stumbled into the diversionary realm of "firearms, gay sex, and Sarah Palin," one thing is crystal clear: EPIC FAIL.

That you are actually attempting to refute the FACT that Muslims are cold-blooded POS cowards and murderers and a Death Cult is...a preposterous lie perpetrated by a pathological liar - YOU.

Hey - why don't you strap a bomb-belt on your pecker...find 50 US servicemen to shoot...roll a grenade into a tent of American GIs...crash a few passanger jetss into large buildings...become the new DC -Sniper...blow up more trains in Spain and Europe...launch a Fatwah upon all who LAUGH AT YOU!!

You and your supporters here are nothing but Dumbass Muslim apologists and clinical obsessive compulsives. HEY! I've got a pimple on my ass...The JOOS ARE RESPONSIBLE!! Bwaaahaa!!

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   13:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Liberator (#3)

HI Lib. :) I have some friends who are Muslim, and they are not violent at all. They are very thoughtful and good people, and they are proud Americans. BUT those do not seem to be the types of people Obama associates himself with.

It appears to me that Obama surrounds himself with people who want the destruction of freedom and they seem to want to dismantle our country's sovereignty.

I see that. I think the socialism that has creeped in to destroy America, has more to do with mental disease and self loathing, than it has to do with religious affiliation.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2009-11-30   13:57:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: diva betsy ross (#23)

HI Lib. :) I have some friends who are Muslim, and they are not violent at all. They are very thoughtful and good people, and they are proud Americans.

Hi Diva...

NOT buying the cliche that Muslims are "proud Americans." AT ALL.

Let them serve, spill blood, sacrifice, and put America FIRST. Let them lead Veterans Day parades. Independence Day festivities. Let them honor the religion, traditions, and heritage of America's Founders. What's that? They don't? Nevermind...

They are nothing SHEEP and parasite feeding off the past sacrifice and blood and sweat of Western concepts of liberty, capitalism, and tolerance.

Individual Muslims (or blacks for that matter) aren't necessarily "violent"...and neither are any ideological mutants, cults or raging lunatics UNTIL a catalyst kicks them into gear, or mob rules.

Were Muslims the majority just how "thoughtful and good" of people would they be? Come on - you're NOT this naive, are you?? ANY area of the WORLD where Islam become the dominant demographic proves otherwise (Africa, Indonesia, Middle East, Europe.)

Fundamentally ALL Muslims and their religion, culture and philosophy are ANTI-WEST...That makes them 100% anathema to our way of living. These people are only benign when they only comprise an extremely minority.

I think the socialism that has creeped in to destroy America, has more to do with mental disease and self loathing, than it has to do with religious affiliation.

Socialism/communism is closely related to secular humanism which is itself a "religion." Our collective problem as you well know is a spiritual disease or rather infestation. Yes, "self-loathing" and guilt as well play into this self-destructive, sado-masochistic syndrome...

The Elite fascists are facilitating this under the guise of "diversity," "anti-sovereignty," collectivism, and a one-world ecumenism of both politics and religion.

The gig is as it's always been - about power and greed.

BUT those do not seem to be the types of people Obama associates himself with. It appears to me that Obama surrounds himself with people who want the destruction of freedom and they seem to want to dismantle our country's sovereignty.

You DO realize 0bama is associated with Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright, Farrahkan, etal. Muslims? YES, HE IS ONE OF THEM! The guy is a proven Marxist and anti-American liar who wants nothing more then to take down the US as we know it (something about "Hope and Change".)

Geez Diva - COME ON!

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   14:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: mel_living (#21)

Out of curiousity, could you please quote and link me to the portion of the Koran that gives the commandment you mention? Thanks.

“But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them.” (Koran 4:89)

There will be those among them who will wish to gain your confidence and that of your people, Allah warns. “If they withdraw not from you nor give you (guarantees) of peace besides restraining their hands,” commands Allah, “seize them and slay them wherever you get them.” (Koran 4:91).

Need more?:

The Koran advises Muslims to:

* Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
* Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)
* When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
* Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
* Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
* The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
* Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)
* The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)
* Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies (22:19)
* Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
* The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
* Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
* Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)
* Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels (8:60)

So when will you be buying a ranch in Saudi Arabia, Mel?

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   14:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mininggold (#20)

Only women care if they are flattered Queeny [aka Liberator.].

That clearly omits you, doesn't it, Tumbleweeds? Or is it Helen Thomas Jr.?

I was trying to correct your misstatements and omissions, and get you to show your lack of ethics and integrity in print. I was successful.

You "were successful" in repeating ad nauseam you usual futility, mischaracterizations, and ditz-speak.

EXCELLENT "try."

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   14:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: wudidiz (#19)

Hahahaha....

I couldn't have said it better.

That's quite believable considering your abysmal level of articulation and understanding of normalcy FAILS 97.3% of the time.

The reason it's not 100% can be attributed to a 'Broken Clock' theory.

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   14:38:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Big Meanie (#17)

Big Meanie...What can I say about you that hasn't already been said?

I CAN always fart in your general direction...AGAIN.

Liberator  posted on  2009-11-30   14:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Liberator (#25)

Thank you for the info.

mel_living  posted on  2009-11-30   14:41:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Liberator (#24)

:) Lib- I mean only my own friends- who I know personally. My friends are very supportive of the military... (would *I* be friends with anyone who isn't??)

I agree with you about the radical Muslims like those you listed- and yes- it is a concern that Obama is friends with those kinds of people, but I just can't make the leap that all Muslims are bad. That just hasn't been my life's experience. I think all liberals are mental.... THAT I can prove 100 different ways.

You think I am *pie in the sky* naive, don't you?? ;) (It's ok if you do- I luv you anyway).

diva betsy ross  posted on  2009-11-30   18:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Liberator (#27)

Believe what the TV tells you.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-11-30   22:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Liberator (#22) (Edited)

I notice a lot of hot air in your posts and no specifics.

This is your jooish logic at work.

Your jooish logic may pass muster on El Pee, it won't on this site which is a free speech forum.

Now what specifics do you have to rebut my statement that Jews coexisted various in various Muslim empires for centuries, which totally demolishes your premise that Muslims are out to slaughter the infidel at all costs?

If and when you get done with that - not likely - you can then comment on your specious claim that whenever a Christian does something violent, he is not acting as a Christian, but when a Muslim does something violent, he in your opinion is acting as a Muslim and not an individual.

The fact is that you find violent and peaceful people everywhere in all circumstances and only idiots like yourself make sweeping generalizations about "Good Christian, Evil Mooslum."

You $hit for brains Middle Eastern kooks are hell bent on running the United States of America into oblivion. The WOT is a pretty good start in that direction, just as OBL hoped it would be.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-01   0:42:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mel_living (#21)

Hi Lib - Out of curiousity, could you please quote and link me to the portion of the Koran that gives the commandment you mention? Thanks.

There is no such quote.

The Koran is somewhat vague and ambiguous, but the parts that most explicitly deal with jihad state that you "fight in the way of Allah" and to observe boundaries i.e. proper conduct in war.

Furthermore there is a distinction in the Koran between "infidels" who are idol worshippers and pagans, and monothestic "People of the Book" who include Jews and Christians. Jews and Christians are not infidels according to the Koran.

Last but not least, if you want to see passages about annihliating your enemies, selling them into slavery, raping, plundering, and "Leave not alive anything that breathes," look no further than Deuteronomy in the Old Testament.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-01   0:47:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Liberator, all (#1) (Edited)

I am totally amused by you and the other anti-muslim hate mongers in that with your myopic outlook you consistently miss key data and focus on peripheral items.

The real question and focus should be why did this guy go off? It wasn't because he was a muslim. there are hundreds of millions of Muslims worldwide who did not go on a berserker killing spree that day.

Datum: He was a Psychiatrist.

Datum: Every one of the berserker killers in recent years has been on some form of SSRI Psychiatric drug. (Prozac is the most common but Eric Harris of Columbine fame was on Luvox.)

So, as a Psychiatrist, under pressure because he was about to be deployed into a war he disagreed with, could he have been on some form of anti-depressant? The military is handing them out like candy these days - particularly to troops in combat zones. So, it is reasonable to guess that he was most likely on some form of anti-depressant.

Last time I checked 2+2 still equalled 4.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-01   0:54:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: AGAviator, Liberator, all (#32)

Nicely put. Pungent with just a whiff of acid.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-01   0:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: AGAviator (#33)

I looked it up and saw the distortion of the interpretation. There are people who claim one religion or another that are simply - wacked.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-01   0:58:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: mel_living (#29)

Thank you for the info.

If you google those words they are cut and paste from blogs from the usual suspects.

Here is some original material.

Koran Translation

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-01   1:06:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: mel_living, Original_Intent (#36)

I looked it up and saw the distortion of the interpretation

Right after 4:89, there is another passage 4:90 which says don't fight people who have a treaty with you.

You wouldn't expect our wannabe propagadist to put those exculpatory words in, would you?

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-01   1:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: AGAviator (#38)

Typical for Zionazi Iarabots.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-01   1:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: AGAviator, mel_living, Original_Intent, liberator (#38)

You mean liberator wasn't being honest?


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-01   1:14:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: mel_living (#36)

[2.190] And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits.

[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-01   1:14:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: wudidiz (#40) (Edited)

You mean liberator wasn't being honest?

I'm sure according to jooish logic FibberBator is as honest as the day is long....which reminds me it is after dark now....

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-01   1:15:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: wudidiz, AGAviator, mel_living, liberator (#40)

You mean liberator wasn't being honest?

Heaven forefend.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-01   1:19:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: AGAviator (#38) (Edited)

You wouldn't expect our wannabe propagadist to put those exculpatory words in, would you?

Liberator's habit is to omit most of the story, and she uses lots of capital letters as a distraction. (She acknowledges and seems impressed by superficial flattery from other posters....generally a female trait).

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-01   1:26:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: mininggold (#44)

generally a female trait

Don't insult mel, who I believe is a woman...

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-01   1:31:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: AGAviator, mininggold (#45)

generally a female trait

Don't insult mel, who I believe is a woman...

So is she.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-01   1:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: AGAviator (#45)

Don't insult mel, who I believe is a woman...

I meant that to be about liberator who I believe also is female. I'll go back and clarify it.

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-01   1:37:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: AGAviator (#38)

It also talks against murderers and rapists. I don't defend those who do evil in the name of God, Allah, or any other "heavenly being" as they exist in every religion.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-01   10:03:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: mininggold (#47)

I think Lib is male - Lib likes women, if you know what I mean.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-01   10:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: mel_living (#48)

To be honest Islam and the Koran is a rather convoluted and confusing belief system in many respects. However no more so than what you see in the OT.

In fact there are numerous striking parallels between the OT and the Koran, and the Koran claims that it too comes from the same source as the OT.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-01   10:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: AGAviator (#50)

This weeks topic in my Religions of the World class is Christianity and Islam, their similarities and differences. I'll know more at the end of the week.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-01   10:17:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: AGAviator (#50)

PS - Don't tell Lib Islam and Christianity have similarities - He doesn't like to hear that.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-01   10:18:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: mel_living (#52)

The big difference between Christianity and Islam is Jesus taught forgiveness, and lived it to set an example even at the cost of his own life "Father forgive them they know not what they do."

Both Islam and Judaism OTOH are mostly based on fighting back, and in the case of Judaism preeemptively attacking those whose land they claim their deity has given to them.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-01   10:24:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: AGAviator, Liberator, mininggold, all (#32)

Now what specifics do you have to rebut my statement that Jews coexisted various in various Muslim empires for centuries, which totally demolishes your premise that Muslims are out to slaughter the infidel at all costs?

The other thing that Blaberator will not touch is that many of the Muslims in Palestine, and elsewhere, were originally Jews who were converted to Islam during and after the expansion of Islam in the 8th Century. Genetically, if one wishes to analyze a spiritual problem materialistically, the current Muslims of Palestine are little different genetically, virtually identical, from Sephardic Jews found anywhere in the Middle East. Of course the AshkeNAZIm are of Northern European ancestry and are no more closely related to the Jews of the Bible than was the last Czar of Russia. The AshkeNAZIm also treat the Sephardim only slightly better than the Muslims as they are racist bolshevik pigs.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-01   12:21:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: mel_living (#51)

This weeks topic in my Religions of the World class is Christianity and Islam, their similarities and differences. I'll know more at the end of the week.

A great book, if you can find a copy as it is out of print, is "Great Religions by Which Men Live". A classic in the field of comparative religion and very accessible.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-01   12:23:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Original_Intent (#55)

Thank you. The text we are using is Living Religions, Sixth Edition, by Mary Pat Fisher. It's rather facinating and I'm enjoying learning about the many religions that exist. I will look for the book you suggested.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-01   12:27:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: AGAviator, mel_living (#53)

Both Islam and Judaism OTOH are mostly based on fighting back, and in the case of Judaism preeemptively attacking those whose land they claim their deity has given to them.

If one steps aside from dogma for a moment and looks at these belief systems from a strictly ethnographic viewpoint they begin to make more sense. Both religions evolved out of a very harsh environment, where survival was problematic at best, wracked by warfare and constant ethnic strife. Each elevates their own group above all others (a survival adaptation) and dismisses other groups as unworthy - even "subhuman". Which makes sense from the point of view that resources were severely limited and which meant not all could partake. Thus one has to have a rationale for killing others or preventing their survival. That this is no longer true is irrelevant, at this point, as those characteristics are so ingrained as to be almost nature. Historically the region has been riven by these irrational forces since time immemorial.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-01   12:31:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: mel_living (#56)

Enjoy! Religion, despite the whining caterwauling of the few atheists, is part of human nature. At its best it reflects and represents our highest yearnings and questings. The spiritual side is every bit as real, if not more so, than the material. It is what lifts us above the mere animal.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-01   12:34:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: mel_living (#49)

I think Lib is male - Lib likes women, if you know what I mean.

I think lib is a lezzy, if you know what I mean. lol

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-01   13:43:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: mininggold (#59)

I considered posting that - but if I did, that would mean another poster I know of is a lezzy too. ;-D

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-01   13:50:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Original_Intent (#57)

Each elevates their own group above all others (a survival adaptation) and dismisses other groups as unworthy - even "subhuman"

Certain Christian variants believe and practice that, even with those from other Christian religions. Such as the Seventh Day Adventists which I know for a fact, but it is not (that I know of) in any of their "official" teachings.

So many of these religions have hierarchies that have their own level of secret teachings.

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-01   13:55:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: mel_living (#60)

I considered posting that - but if I did, that would mean another poster I know of is a lezzy too. ;-D

I have nothing against lezzies (I have more than one in my family) unless they exhibit the constant vile and nasty attempts at domination of a Liberator. Then I consider it part of a larger mental illness or personality disorder.

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-01   14:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: mel_living (#60)

I considered posting that - but if I did, that would mean another poster I know of is a lezzy too. ;-D

The only other poster I'm aware of who has many of the strange qualities of liberator is byeltsin. Byeltsin actually posted that there were sooo many posters on LP who deserved to die before her granddaughter (who was killed in an accident). I bozoed her right after giving my condolences.

I think there are many examples on LP of drug and alcohol ravaged personalities.

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-01   14:59:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: mininggold (#63)

Byeltsin is a she? Woah!

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-01   15:19:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: mininggold, mel_living, Liberator, all (#59)

I think Lib is male - Lib likes women, if you know what I mean.

I think lib is a lezzy, if you know what I mean. lol

Blabberator is a Bull Dyke?

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-01   21:11:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Original_Intent, mininggold, mel_living, Liberator, all (#65)

An anti-Muslim, anti-anti-semitic, Israel-first, femme-nazi, bull dyke.

They're the worst.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-01   22:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: mininggold (#62)

I have nothing against lezzies (I have more than one in my family)

Why am I not surprised lezzies are rife in your family of circus freaks?

I consider it [drunken delusions] part of a larger mental illness or personality disorder.

Agreed.

You can start your healing process by avoiding liquor stores, bathing, and removing the cracked mirrors in your hovel.

Remember - it IS possible to be a productive human being again.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-01   22:44:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: wudidiz, Original_Intent, mininggold (#66)

ROTFLMAO! OMG - my sides hurt!

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-01   22:52:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: wudidiz, Original_Intent, mininggold, mel_living, The Coffee Klatch Krew (#66)

[Liberator is] An anti-Muslim, anti-anti-semitic, Israel-first, femme-nazi, bull dyke.

They're the worst.

Raising the bar of discourse and puerile humor again I see at 4um, Woo-Ditz? (Is this where I grab a box of Kleenex?)

Where's the wit?? Laughs!! Where are the laughs?? Gimme a chuckle at least. Even a grin will do.

Maybe I'll find it up-thread? I'll take a look and give a Gold (Jewish) Star to whomever is discovered to have posted some wit.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-01   22:53:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Liberator (#69)

Where's the wit?? Laughs!! Where are the laughs??

Honestly, you're doing a good job of providing some entertainment here.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-01   22:55:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: mininggold, LOLOLOLOLOL (#63)

I think there are many examples on LP of drug and alcohol ravaged personalities.

So sayeth Miss Gilbey's poster child, 1976-2009 (burp.)

Liberator....ooh-la-la....LOLLOLOLOL....Liberator....ooh-la-la....LOLOLOLOL...Liberator

Mininggold, YOU are a true treasure.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-01   23:01:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: wudidiz (#70)

Honestly, you're doing a good job of providing some entertainment here.

It's the least I can do for visiting the equivalent of the misfits lunch table at high school.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-01   23:08:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Original_Intent (#54)

The other thing that Blaberator will not touch is that many of the Muslims in Palestine, and elsewhere, were originally Jews who were converted to Islam during and after the expansion of Islam in the 8th Century.

Thanks for that 1300 year old "guess-who-are-related-semites?" historical newsflash, Sparky...

O-o-o-kay.... So it's been determined that the mutant murderous Cult of Islam is viral (by the sword.)

What of it?

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-01   23:18:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: mel_living (#49)

I think Lib is male - Lib likes women, if you know what I mean.

Mmmmmmm...yeah.

You would NOT believe how hot a time we're having.

(if you know what I mean.)

And then afterwards over a smoke we talk and laugh about how loony some people are.

(if you know what I mean.)

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-01   23:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Original_Intent, Liberator (#72)

It's the least I can do for visiting the equivalent of the misfits lunch table at high school.

She called us 'misfits', OI.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-01   23:30:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Liberator (#74)

Mmmmmmm...yeah.

You would NOT believe how hot a time we're having.

(if you know what I mean.)

Maybe you could post us a vid.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-01   23:31:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Liberator (#73)

O-o-o-kay.... So it's been determined that the mutant murderous Cult of Islam is viral (by the sword.)

Just as it has been determined that the bolsheviks who murdered close to 50 million people (10 million in the Holodomor alone) hail largely from that other group of muderous Middle Eastern misfits.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-01   23:35:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: wudidiz, Blabberator, Liberator, all (#75)

It's the least I can do for visiting the equivalent of the misfits lunch table at high school.

She called us 'misfits', OI.

I guess it is chic now to be a greasy Jewish Bull Dyke who hates everyone - or so sHE thinks - assuming "thinks" is the right word.

"Brylllllcream a little dab'll do ya' ..."

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-01   23:38:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Original_Intent (#78) (Edited)


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-01   23:42:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: wudidiz (#76) (Edited)

Maybe you could post us a vid.

Can't you just peruse the lingerie section of your JC Penney circular to get off?

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-01   23:53:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Original_Intent (#77)

it has been determined that the bolsheviks who murdered close to 50 million people (10 million in the Holodomor alone) hail largely from that other group of muderous Middle Eastern misfits.

I'm trying to do the math here...60 million murdered...

Are you referring to "JOOS"??

How many JOOS existed at the time?

Can't be many...but if so, that few must have been the type of warriors that make The 300 of Sparta look like Richard Simmons.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-01   23:57:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Original_Intent (#78)

greasy Jewish Bull Dyke who hates everyone

I expected more wit from you, OI.

Shame on you.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-01   23:58:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: wudidiz (#79)

Answer just ONE question, Woo-Ditz:

IF you're a "man," WHY are you portraying yourself posing as THIS CHICK fluttering your eyelashes at your 4um Homepage waving a Canadian Flag instead of a Rainbow Flag?

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-02   0:03:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Liberator (#83)

That's 'Canada Girl'.

You like her?


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-02   0:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Liberator (#71)

Mininggold, YOU are a true treasure.

Why don't you save it for your "femme fatale" Maggie that you are always sucking up to. She probably wants you to be the guy though. lolol

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-02   0:07:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: wudidiz (#79)

An amazing representation. Just as I envisioned her/it.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-02   0:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: wudidiz (#84)

That's 'Canada Girl'. You like her?

What's important is that YOU like how you've portrayed yourself.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-02   0:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: mininggold (#85)

Why don't you save it for your "femme fatale" Maggie that you are always sucking up to. She probably wants you to be the guy though. lolol

Aaaw, now baby - dontcha treat me this-a-way!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL! (smooch!)

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-02   0:16:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Liberator (#87)

I can see how that would be an issue for you.

I was going to put up a picture of my maid, but I thought it might be inappropriate.

I don't always make her wear the boots.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-02   0:17:53 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Liberator (#81)

Your ignorance of history is showing.

The Holodomor was the mass created famine conducted in the Ukraine (which is why The native Ukrainians hate Russia yet today) which murdered between 10 and 11 million people. About 75% of the Cheka who carried out the enforcement of the forced famine were Jewish.

Holodomor - Ukraine Blog

Winston Churchill - The Role of the Jews during The Russian Revolution

"How many Jews were actually represented in the revolutionary assemblies?

4 Jews were part of the 7 men Politibureau. Leo Trotsky, Leo Kamenjew, Gregory Sinowjew and Gregory Sokolnikow.

The none-Jews were Lenin, Stalin and Bubnow (1).

Among the 21 members of the Revolutionary Central Committee in Russia in 1917, 6 had the Jewish nationality, which is 28.6 %.

This overrepresentation of Jews amongst the creators of the Communist Movement was in no way limited to the Soviet Union.

Also Ferdinand LaSalle was Jewish, as were Eduard Bernstein and Rosa Luxemburg. In Germany in 1924 4 out of 6 leaders of the Communist Party were Jewish, and thereby made up one third.

In Vienna out of 137 leading Austro-Marxists there were 81 Jews, which comprises 60%. Among the 48 Folk Commissionaires, there were 30 Jews.

But also among the Soviet revolutionary secret police the Jewish quota was exceptionally large. While the Jewish quota of the total Russian population in 1939 was about 2 %, the Jewish Cheka (Tcheka) leaders made up no less than 39 %.

"Jewish", to make things clear, was recognized as a separate nationality in the Soviet Union.

The Jewish quota of the Cheka was by 36% higher than the Russian. In the Ukraine even 75 % of the Cheka were Jews

These facts lead onward to a chapter that at that time caused an enormous outrage. The murder of the Russian Tsar family had been planned by the Jew Jacob Swerdlov, and Tsar Nicholas II was murdered by the Jew Chaimowits Jurowski in person.

Furthermore, there is the question if the Jews in the Communist movement were merely followers, or if they had a leading function. The latter was the case. Leo Trotsky in the UUSR, and Bela Kun in Hungary.

According to a statistical study by a professor who was presented by Churchill in 1930, 28 orthodox Bishops, 1.219 orthodox priests, 6.000 professors and teachers, 9.000 doctors, 12.950 landowners, 54.000 officers, 70.000 policemen, 193.000 workers, 260.000 soldiers, 355.000 intellectuals and merchants and 815.000 farmers had fallen as victims of the Soviets until 1924.

An especially revolting chapter was the annihilation of any resistance against the forced collectivization in the Ukraine. Under the examplatory participation of Jewish Chekists far more than 10 million people found their death here.

The outspoken anti-church and anti-Christian objectives of the Bolshevist Revolution shall not be played down, as is the case in most schoolbooks. It is a fact, that Bolshevism, with their militant atheism has carried out the greatest persecutions of Christians, and religion as such. "

I bring this up not because I hate Jews - I don't, but because of your constant Propaganda drumbeat about the "murderous muslims". The Muslims don't have a corner on the market and can't hold a candle to what is documented in history of Jewish involvement in mass murder.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-02   0:32:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: wudidiz (#89)

Daddy I want THAT one.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-02   0:33:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Original_Intent (#57)

Historically the region has been riven by these irrational forces since time immemorial.

Link

Now, the new owners of your planet, this principality in space out on the fringes of your galactic system, had a different appetite, different preferences than the former owners. They nourished themselves off of fear. They nourished themselves off of chaos, though fear was their primary food source. In some ways, it fed them, it stimulated them, it kept them in power. Understand?

So 300,000 years ago, these creator gods that your Bible speaks of, that the Babylonian tablets speak of, that texts all over the world, in actuality, speak of, they came, and they rearranged what would be called the native species man. And they rearranged what would be called your DNA, in order to have you broadcast within a certain limited frequency band. This has been going on for a long time now.

...

Question: Then, what is going on in the Middle East would be an excellent way to provoke a lot of food...

Answer: Yes. Very good. Also, since you have mentioned the Middle East, let us give you a little tip on the Middle East. As we said to you in our story, the area of what would be called Mesopotamia was where the story was launched, where these creator gods made their home base some 300,000 years ago.

Understand now, that there are portals, or what would be called energy chutes, where one must enter onto planetary existences. There is a gigantic portal in the Middle East, a pathway of entry onto your planet, that certain creator gods have owned and occupied for 300,000 years.

There have been raids, there have been fights, there have been all kinds of things over this portal. Through this portal, the frequency of mankind can be controlled. It is not the only portal, there are many other portals, although this is the prime portal that is being fought over at this time. Those creator gods who were here 300,000 years ago are returning.

They are still in existence. They do not live, operate, or exist under the same laws that you do. In other words, 300,000 years is not too long to live for them, do you understand this? That is your time sector, not theirs. They travel through what would be called space. They are very interesting creatures. They have helped develop your civilization. They have helped destroy your civilization.

Even amongst themselves they argue and fight. Believe it or not, creator gods do this. Now, back to the question... They are losing control of the planet, so they go back to their prime portal, and they create fear and chaos in their portal area, because that is their nest.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-02   1:24:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: AGAviator (#92)

While I do not think we are "it" as far as intelligent life in the universe goes. Sitchin, and I would guess that is Sitchin or one of his followers, is questionable. His translations of texts has come under dispute - and not just by the Lamestream.

So, I shall take a Missouri stance and would prefer hard data.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-02   1:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Original_Intent (#93)

Sitchin, and I would guess that is Sitchin or one of his followers, is questionable. His translations of texts has come under dispute

I've never heard of Sitchin. The link is from Barbara Marciniak.

I find it intesting because it at least offers an explanation of the chronic insanity that has surrounded that Allah-forsaken patch of desert since time immemorial..

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-02   1:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: AGAviator (#94)

Got it. However, despite the fact we have so much focus on it today it is not the only region of the world which evidences such petty ethnic hatreds and strife. Take a look at India. It is a seething pool of both the best in humanity and the worst. Bound by the straitjacket of a caste system with warring sects and subgroups there is barely a week goes by without violence of some sort. One can find the same in parts of Asia as well.

That chronic insanity you observe is naught but irrationality and ignorance at play. Sadly such plagues mankind in every corner of the earth. Look at the madmen we now have running our piece of it.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-02   2:52:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Original_Intent (#90)

But also among the Soviet revolutionary secret police the Jewish quota was exceptionally large. While the Jewish quota of the total Russian population in 1939 was about 2 %, the Jewish Cheka (Tcheka) leaders made up no less than 39 %.

Also, both Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels were Jews - Marx's father was a Talmudist - and one of the first laws the supposedly atheistic communists passed when they took over Russia was to make "anti-Semitism" a capital crime.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-02   3:01:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Liberator (#69)

Where are the laughs??

I'm LMAOing!

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-02   9:50:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Liberator (#74)

lol...Lib - I knew you were male!

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-02   9:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: wudidiz, Original_Intent, Liberator (#75)

It's the least I can do for visiting the equivalent of the misfits lunch table at high school.

She called us 'misfits', OI.

COOL! You should know by now that it's the high school "misfits" that grow up and do something fantastic with their lives and the "popular" crowd that ends up married with children before the age of 20, in dead-end jobs, and divorced before 30. ;-D

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-02   13:01:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: mel_living, Original_Intent (#99)

Hundred.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-02   13:05:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: mel_living (#99)

COOL! You should know by now that it's the high school "misfits" that grow up and do something fantastic with their lives and the "popular" crowd that ends up married with children before the age of 20, in dead-end jobs, and divorced before 30. ;-D

Yep.... the nerds rule the world while the formerly cool bunch do all the heavy lifting as they remember how cool they once were.

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-02   13:13:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: mel_living, wudidiz, Blabberator, Liberator, all (#99)

It's the least I can do for visiting the equivalent of the misfits lunch table at high school.

She called us 'misfits', OI.

COOL! You should know by now that it's the high school "misfits" that grow up and do something fantastic with their lives and the "popular" crowd that ends up married with children before the age of 20, in dead-end jobs, and divorced before 30. ;-D

But they do do all sorts of useful stuff like pumping gas, flipping Whoppers, changing tires, running Freight Elevators, being Night Clerks, all while being "Cool".

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-02   15:09:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Original_Intent (#102) (Edited)

But they do do all sorts of useful stuff like pumping gas, flipping Whoppers, changing tires, running Freight Elevators, being Night Clerks, all while being "Cool".

LOL.... I bet that Lib was the coolest of the cool in high school as she now works as a Christian Zionist trailing behind Maggie and Goldi looking for constant, but never to be achieved, approval.

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-02   15:19:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: mininggold (#103)

Lib was the HS Quarterback who got the Head Cheerleader pregnate on Prom night.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-02   15:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: mel_living (#104)

Lib was the HS Quarterback who got the Head Cheerleader pregnate on Prom night.

I doubt it could get anyone preggers except with a turkey baster.

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-02   15:46:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: mel_living, wudidiz, Original_Intent, mininggold (#104)

Lib was the HS Quarterback who got the Head Cheerleader pregnate on Prom night.

And Mrs. Lib and I have lived happily ever after since.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-02   16:19:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Liberator (#106)

lol...

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-02   16:25:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Liberator (#106)

You are needed on LP, surely you and the "Missus" (I don't care what roles you two switch to behind closed doors) could come to the rescue with a big fat check.

Don't make it out to anyone though, according to DHS and Patriot Act regs. Funny how LP is the only site I have encountered that seems to have that requirement.

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-02   16:26:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Original_Intent (#90)

I bring this up not because I hate Jews - I don't, but because of your constant Propaganda drumbeat about the "murderous muslims".

"Propaganda"??

You mean THIS has been nothing but a hoax?

You're a bright guy, OI, but occasionally you have this compulsion to drive head-on into oncoming freeway traffic in a Yugo.

Let's NOT re-write current events, ok?

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-02   16:29:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: mininggold (#108)

You are needed on LP, surely you and the "Missus" (I don't care what roles you two switch to behind closed doors) could come to the rescue with a big fat check.

Sounds kinky.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-02   16:35:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Liberator (#109)

ISLAM

“There is no god but God”

In about 570 CE, a new prophet was born. This man, Muhammad, is considered by Muslims to be the last of a continuing chain of prophets who have come to restore the true religion. They regard the way revealed to him, Islam, not as a new religion but as the original path of monotheism, which also developed into Judaism and Christianity.

After carrying the torch of civilization in the West while Europe was in its Dark Ages, in the twentieth century Islam began a great resurgence. It is now the religion of nearly one-fifth of the world’s people. Its monotheistic creed is simple: “There is no god but God, and Muhammad is his Messenger.” Its requirements of the faithful are straightforward, if demanding. But beneath them lie profundities and subtleties of which non-Muslims are largely unaware. In fact, ignorance about Islam and perceived targeting of Muslims in general by the U.S.-led “war on terrorism” have exacerbated a dangerous and growing divide between Muslims and non- Muslims in the contemporary world. Therefore it is extremely important to carefully study the origins, teachings, and modern history of this major world religion.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-02   16:37:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: mel_living (#111)

Its [Islam's] requirements of the faithful are straightforward, if demanding. But beneath them lie profundities and subtleties of which non-Muslims are largely unaware.

Women are mere chattel; life is cheap; "Infidels" are the enemy to be converted, enslaved, or murdered," it's "god" is satan, and Islam worships Death.

That's all one needs to know about the "profundities and subtleties" of this Bloody Cult and Curse upon mankind.

Defending Islam is like defending cancer.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-02   17:24:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: AGAviator (#92)

Now, the new owners of your planet, this principality in space out on the fringes of your galactic system, had a different appetite, different preferences than the former owners. They nourished themselves off of fear. They nourished themselves off of chaos, though fear was their primary food source. In some ways, it fed them, it stimulated them, it kept them in power. Understand?

Wow, I could have sworn you were really palo verde when I first started reading this...

I think there might be SOME truth in what that all says, but a very fictionalized account.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-12-02   17:40:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Liberator (#109)

Let's NOT re-write current events, ok?

It was so convenient for you to show those demonstrators with their signs printed in perfect English. A good photo op meant to get the Christian Zios' blood boiling for another round of "we need your child overseas to stop a bullet for Israel"..... only this time it will be from Iran. More symbolic burnt offerings.

Did you get them off your church's website?

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-02   19:56:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: mininggold (#114)

It was so convenient for you to show those demonstrators with their signs printed in perfect English.

"Demonstrators"?? Is THAT what you're calling them?? LMFAO!! You're completely whacked! Yeah - they're "demonstrating" for "BEHEADING." And "BUTCHERING." Worthy causes, no doubt?

And did you consider that these "demonstrators'" signs were printed in English because...THEY WERE IN ENGLAND?? Duh.

Not only is that hysterical, but you object to Muslim maniacs making themselves look like....Muslim maniacs? THEY created the "photo-op" they wanted to portrait, Miss Nadal.

Please don't change your prescription. You're defective brain is perfect just the way it is.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-02   23:08:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Liberator (#115) (Edited)

Please don't change your prescription. You're defective brain is perfect just the way it is.

Only an Israeli firster would consider any defective brain to be perfect.

Next time source your pictures Princess or are you a member of the Danz family?

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-02   23:13:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Liberator (#112)

Defending Islam is like defending cancer.

Your joos lived with that *cancer* all through the Middle Ages, and attained high positions among the ***cancerous*** Moorish and Ottoman Empires, even when those empires were fighting against Christians.

In fact, it was joos who watched the Moors' backs and ruled over the captive Spaniards when the Moors went north into France.

So why didn't these eeeevil Mooslums kill everybody including their joos?

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-02   23:55:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: mininggold (#116)

As a Muslim-Firster, dontcha just fantasize about having Major Nadal autograph you bottle of Gilbey's?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-03   0:19:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: AGAviator, muslimgold (#117) (Edited)

Your joos...my joos...cancerous joos....boogeyman joos...joos under your bed....joos in my cereal bowl...yada-yada...blah-blah....

Please marry miningmuslimgold and get it over with, Abdul. She'll look lovely in her off-white burka, and you with your camel as "best man."

So why didn't these eeeevil Mooslums kill everybody including their joos?

I don't know, Abdul. Too many dull knives? Not enough bomb-belts or grenades?

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-03   0:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Liberator (#118)

As a Muslim-Firster, dontcha just fantasize about having Major Nadal autograph you bottle of Gilbey's?

So are you a member of the Danz family or not? You didn't even give the photos attribution.

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-03   0:27:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Liberator (#119)

To: AGAviator, muslimgold

Your joos...my joos...cancerous joos....boogeyman joos...joos under your bed....joos in my cereal bowl...yada-yada...blah-blah.... Please marry miningmuslimgold and get it over with, Abdul. She'll look lovely in her off-white burka, and you with your camel as "best man."

Goldi would make a good match for you and just think you could ask her forgiveness everyday, as you bow and scrape to prevent being tossed into banning purgatory. But the Jewish angst...you'll just have to get used to it.

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-03   0:31:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Liberator (#119)

You're not on elPee, heebsucker.

Answer the question. I will repeat it as many times as it takes to penetrate your thick skull and empty brain.

And no one will ban me for repeating the quesiton.

If Islam is so evil, why did your joos survive and even thrive in it for 1,300 years, and only now are telling us white folks - and I don't include you in this group - how bad Islam is so we will fight their tribal wars for them.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-03   0:32:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: AGAviator (#122)

You're not on elPee, heebsucker.

Answer the question. I will repeat it as many times as it takes to penetrate your thick skull and empty brain.

And no one will ban me for repeating the quesiton.

Maybe it's hoping Goldi will ride in here on her white horse and try to save it's buttt. lolol

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-03   0:35:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: mininggold (#123) (Edited)

Maybe it's hoping Goldi will ride in here on her white horse

Or give out my IP address....BWAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!!!!!

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-03   0:37:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: AGAviator (#124)

Or give out my IP address....BWAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!!!!!

She might give out mine too, but I'm changing it... hopefully by tomorrow.

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-03   0:39:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: (#119)

Sultan Beyazit II welcoming Jews to Ottoman Empire in 1492 (painting by Mevlut Akyildiz).

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-03   0:48:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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