Title: Internet geeks here! Who can determine how many web spiders/crawlers are on 4um?? Source:
none URL Source:http://none Published:Nov 20, 2009 Author:X-15 Post Date:2009-11-20 03:04:08 by X-15 Keywords:None Views:2743 Comments:170
"Web spiders/crawlers: programs that search websites looking for specific words or patterns to compile into a database."
A popular gun website I visit had 20 running, if 4um has less then I assume it has a lower profile in the eyes of FedGov.
I don't recall any so-called terrorist plots being busted that didn't involve an FBI agent being proactively involved in the mix somehow.
Racking my memory I can't think of any exceptions. The elites need to keep the "Sarrorism" card in play to keep the suckers supporting their fear, and not opposing their control. So, the Feral Bureau of Instigation is doing its part by creating "terrorism" on demand. This is part of the ongoing array of PsyOps to keep the ignorant who believe "Pills" Limbaugh, Vannity, Michael Savage-Weiner, BOORtz, Faux Nooze, and the other controlled Networks, buying the need to shovel the dollars off to the Banksters and MIC along with their freedom and their future.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
She owns both domain names and points both of them to her site. If you use libertypost.net as your URL, it mostly works but you won't have the same browser cookies (it seems) so it may look or act a little differently on a few screens. You might have to sign in again or whatnot.
Libertypost.net points to the server for libertypost.org. Libertypost.com and libertypost.us are owned by the USPS and that isn't sinister either.
Pointing multiple domains at a single server or server farm is a very common practice. This is how places like Amazon and Newegg work too.
Because noone would ever think of something so outrageous as duplicating a website. The idea is simply preposterous. For anyone to even think of such a thing or question it is clearly and indication of well, that they have a problem.
Forgive me Maam for my ignorance or paranoia or stupidity or whatever my problem is, but isn't the fact that there are two different urls mean that there are two different websites? Regardless of how similar they look?
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
Forgive me Maam for my ignorance or paranoia or stupidity or whatever my problem is, but isn't the fact that there are two different urls mean that there are two different websites? Regardless of how similar they look?
How snarky you are, wudi. Nevertheless, I'll answer you, noting the irony of you calling me rude.
All website servers and all computers (and devices like addressable routers) occupy a dotted-IP address on the internet, just as your own home network has its own range of addresses. So your home network might use the common reserved range of addresses 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.255.255. In other words, a range of 65536 addresses (roughly) are reserved from any server or other LAN using them. So you might use an IP address of 192.168.0.1 for your DSL modem, the router you connect to it might use 192.168.1.1 and then all your home network computers could use addresses in the range 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.254.
So a place like libertypost.org has a server with a dotted-IP address too. The dotted-IP address is what you access, the name is just a convenient way to access the actually address.
You can point one domain name to a webserver. Or you can point a million names to a webserver. Or you can point different domain names to different subdirectories of the same server. Or whatever. Domain names don't care what you point them at. And the domain registrars are happy when you buy multiple names so they make more money.
So, using common utilities, you can look up the actual dotted-IP address of LibertyPost.
libertypost.net. 236 IN A 69.55.11.240 libertypost.org. 236 IN A 69.55.11.240
So you can see for yourself that the two names are the same. You can also just use the dotted-IP address since that is what you always end up using anyway. The name only translates to the number.
So try clicking it: 69.55.11.240. Once again, you arrive at LibertyPost. Unless Goldi really is the supersecret hacker of all time.
You can verify these domain names are at these numbers as I've told you by using your Command Prompt on Windows XP (or its equivalent on Vista or Win7). It's found in the Programs->Accessories folder. Once you open it, you can type nslookup to find your own primary, probably a DSL modem or router in your house. You can then enter libertypost.net or libertypost.org or whatever to check for yourself what the IP address really is. Type 'exit' to leave nslookup and then type 'exit' again to dismiss the command prompt and return to Windows. You can also google for 'nslookup' and use the online versions of these but you can't really trust those nslookup sites either because it might be Goldi running them all on her secret Evil Servers. Obviously, you can trust no one. It's really sad.
Of course, Goldi's site, like 4um, runs from a single mySQL database using a bunch of Perl scripts and PHP pages, the most common kind of interactive site. So it is possible that she has two "copies" of her site, one with Good Decent Godfearing code, the other with the Supersecret Evil Goldi-Lox Killer code. So that if you go to libertypost.org, you get the Good Decent Godfearing version and if you go to libertypost.net, you get the Supersecrect Evil Goldi-Lox Killer version.
Now, this whole notion of a good Goldi-server and an evil Goldi-server is somewhat daft. First, Goldi would have to be a lot more sophisticated than she is about servers and writing code. She doesn't do any of that stuff and hasn't even upgraded her older Pinguinite code (written by Neil and available for free) to the newer Pinguinite code that christine uses here which has more features, is more secure, etc. Beyond that, the idea of Goldi-two-servers is rather odd because the first principle of Being Evil is: Don't let anyone figure out that you really are evil.
Now, I can go to any of the three known methods of reaching LibertyPost via libertypost.org or libertypost.net or 69.55.11.240 (among who knows how many other evil versions of LP there are), and the pages are the same, the most recent articles are the same, the most recent comments are the same. And again, I can sign in to any of them and they behave identically.
Now, since everyone but you and a bunch of old cat ladies posting on Usenet or chatting on IRC already knows the above info, then what sense would it make to have the Goldi-two-servers thing? None whatsoever. What would be more interesting would be to have a single server with the two names pointed at it but monitor the access to it by the IP addresses of those you have banned from it. This way, you can be Evil to banned or disliked users but never look Evil to the Chosen People of LibertyPost (those who Goldi hasn't banned, this being 4um, I thought that was fun way to express it). And people on Goldi's ban list are always going to be assumed to be nursing a grudge anyway so no one will believe their accusations. So you might choose to be paranoid and think that Goldi is only running her Supersecret Evil Goldi-Code if you visit her server but she does show no signs of such code or admin sophistication and sneakiness. It really is just her chat board, I think.
But you can believe or make up anything you like if you enjoy that more. But I see no reason to believe that Goldi or Christine are quite so powerful or obsessed over their chat boards as that would require. Now, me posting this much text to you, that might in and of itself seem Quite Evil to some folks despite my obvious benevolent intentions. But then, perhaps paranoid nihilism really is the safest policy and you have to assume that every website and every server and every person is out to get you and that they are also only figments of your own imagination.
Of course, maybe Goldi is Christine and 4um/LP are just two of her servers. Maybe Goldi/Christine is an employee of FBI/NSA/ADL/SPLC and these sites are just honeypots, beginning to end. Let your imagination run wild.
Or maybe Goldi and Christine are just two ladies who run chat forums, as they appear to be.
If some invites, directly or indirectly, comments which could be incriminating, incitement to violence, or libelous I assume, provisionally pending further data, that I am dealing with a provocateur or shill of some kind. I also assume the government and their filthy vermin traitorous minions know exactly who I am and where I live. So, they can go fuck themselves (pardon the French). Since I do not make personal threats against even politicians and figures whom I despise as long as they have to maintain a pretense that they are obeying the Constitution I'm safe. Once they try to dispense with it I head for the hills. ;-)
It's easiest just to assume that everything you say online will be added to a gooberment dossier and may be used against you in court someday.
(Jerry has just returned from Florida, and is putting away his bag. A worried George sits at the table.) JERRY: (disbelief) So she wanted you to come up, but you left because you thought some guy might be calling you?! (Jerry puts his bag in the bedroom and returns as George paces the floor.) GEORGE: (animated) Some guy. Some guy? Neil! I have got to find out how he could get a girl like Danielle. JERRY: (pointing out the obvious) George, you've got Danielle. Forget about Neil. You've out-Neiled him. GEORGE: (surprised) So, I'm Neil? How did I do that? JERRY: I don't know, but you better keep it up. GEORGE: I'm gonna go meet Danielle. (grabs his coat) There's a new Neil in town! (triumphant laughter) Hahaha!
You started being rude to me by asking 'What is your problem anyway?' at post #43.
You first started off with liberty-post.org and liberty-post.net (which are entirely different domain names from libertypost.org and libertypost.net since domain names can include only lower-case letters, numerals, hyphens).
Then you switched to complaining about libertypost.net, demanding attention and complaining that no one was posting about them. Despite the fact that the rest of us already knew what was up with those domains.
Now go fuck yourself, you stupid, ass-kissing cunt.
(Edited by wudidiz for grammatical errors.)
A perfect example of why you tend to get banned from a lot of websites. What a martyr.
You first started off with liberty-post.org and liberty-post.net (which are entirely different domain names from libertypost.org and libertypost.net since domain names can include only lower-case letters, numerals, hyphens).
No I didn't. Bullshitting moron.
You're really turning out to be quite the piece of work, aren't you.
Didn't I tell you to go fuck yourself already?
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
Then you switched to complaining about libertypost.net, demanding attention and complaining that no one was posting about them. Despite the fact that the rest of us already knew what was up with those domains.
You call that complaining and demanding attention?
lmao
Who's this 'the rest of us' you're referring to?
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
Forgive me Maam for my ignorance or paranoia or stupidity or whatever my problem is, but isn't the fact that there are two different urls mean that there are two different websites? Regardless of how similar they look?
How snarky you are, wudi. Nevertheless, I'll answer you, noting the irony of you calling me rude.
All website servers and all computers (and devices like addressable routers) occupy a dotted-IP address on the internet, just as your own home network has its own range of addresses. So your home network might use the common reserved range of addresses 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.255.255. In other words, a range of 65536 addresses (roughly) are reserved from any server or other LAN using them. So you might use an IP address of 192.168.0.1 for your DSL modem, the router you connect to it might use 192.168.1.1 and then all your home network computers could use addresses in the range 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.254.
So a place like libertypost.org has a server with a dotted-IP address too. The dotted-IP address is what you access, the name is just a convenient way to access the actually address.
You can point one domain name to a webserver. Or you can point a million names to a webserver. Or you can point different domain names to different subdirectories of the same server. Or whatever. Domain names don't care what you point them at. And the domain registrars are happy when you buy multiple names so they make more money.
So, using common utilities, you can look up the actual dotted-IP address of LibertyPost.
libertypost.net. 236 IN A 69.55.11.240 libertypost.org. 236 IN A 69.55.11.240
So you can see for yourself that the two names are the same. You can also just use the dotted-IP address since that is what you always end up using anyway. The name only translates to the number.
So try clicking it: 69.55.11.240. Once again, you arrive at LibertyPost. Unless Goldi really is the supersecret hacker of all time.
You can verify these domain names are at these numbers as I've told you by using your Command Prompt on Windows XP (or its equivalent on Vista or Win7). It's found in the Programs->Accessories folder. Once you open it, you can type nslookup to find your own primary, probably a DSL modem or router in your house. You can then enter libertypost.net or libertypost.org or whatever to check for yourself what the IP address really is. Type 'exit' to leave nslookup and then type 'exit' again to dismiss the command prompt and return to Windows. You can also google for 'nslookup' and use the online versions of these but you can't really trust those nslookup sites either because it might be Goldi running them all on her secret Evil Servers. Obviously, you can trust no one. It's really sad.
Of course, Goldi's site, like 4um, runs from a single mySQL database using a bunch of Perl scripts and PHP pages, the most common kind of interactive site. So it is possible that she has two "copies" of her site, one with Good Decent Godfearing code, the other with the Supersecret Evil Goldi-Lox Killer code. So that if you go to libertypost.org, you get the Good Decent Godfearing version and if you go to libertypost.net, you get the Supersecrect Evil Goldi-Lox Killer version.
Now, this whole notion of a good Goldi-server and an evil Goldi-server is somewhat daft. First, Goldi would have to be a lot more sophisticated than she is about servers and writing code. She doesn't do any of that stuff and hasn't even upgraded her older Pinguinite code (written by Neil and available for free) to the newer Pinguinite code that christine uses here which has more features, is more secure, etc. Beyond that, the idea of Goldi-two-servers is rather odd because the first principle of Being Evil is: Don't let anyone figure out that you really are evil.
Now, I can go to any of the three known methods of reaching LibertyPost via libertypost.org or libertypost.net or 69.55.11.240 (among who knows how many other evil versions of LP there are), and the pages are the same, the most recent articles are the same, the most recent comments are the same. And again, I can sign in to any of them and they behave identically.
Now, since everyone but you and a bunch of old cat ladies posting on Usenet or chatting on IRC already knows the above info, then what sense would it make to have the Goldi-two-servers thing? None whatsoever. What would be more interesting would be to have a single server with the two names pointed at it but monitor the access to it by the IP addresses of those you have banned from it. This way, you can be Evil to banned or disliked users but never look Evil to the Chosen People of LibertyPost (those who Goldi hasn't banned, this being 4um, I thought that was fun way to express it). And people on Goldi's ban list are always going to be assumed to be nursing a grudge anyway so no one will believe their accusations. So you might choose to be paranoid and think that Goldi is only running her Supersecret Evil Goldi-Code if you visit her server but she does show no signs of such code or admin sophistication and sneakiness. It really is just her chat board, I think.
But you can believe or make up anything you like if you enjoy that more. But I see no reason to believe that Goldi or Christine are quite so powerful or obsessed over their chat boards as that would require. Now, me posting this much text to you, that might in and of itself seem Quite Evil to some folks despite my obvious benevolent intentions. But then, perhaps paranoid nihilism really is the safest policy and you have to assume that every website and every server and every person is out to get you and that they are also only figments of your own imagination.
Of course, maybe Goldi is Christine and 4um/LP are just two of her servers. Maybe Goldi/Christine is an employee of FBI/NSA/ADL/SPLC and these sites are just honeypots, beginning to end. Let your imagination run wild.
Or maybe Goldi and Christine are just two ladies who run chat forums, as they appear to be.
TooConservative posted on 2009-11-22 8:06:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
(from #47) Now, since everyone but you and a bunch of old cat ladies posting on Usenet or chatting on IRC already knows the above info, then what sense would it make to have the Goldi-two-servers thing? None whatsoever. What would be more interesting would be to have a single server with the two names pointed at it but monitor the access to it by the IP addresses of those you have banned from it. This way, you can be Evil to banned or disliked users but never look Evil to the Chosen People of LibertyPost (those who Goldi hasn't banned, this being 4um, I thought that was fun way to express it). And people on Goldi's ban list are always going to be assumed to be nursing a grudge anyway so no one will believe their accusations. So you might choose to be paranoid and think that Goldi is only running her Supersecret Evil Goldi-Code if you visit her server but she does show no signs of such code or admin sophistication and sneakiness. It really is just her chat board, I think.
You two geniuses wanna explain to me how you figure I ever thought any of this?
Stupid people bug me.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
I thought maybe it was a duplicate website to get people to sign in so whoever owned it could get their password.
But, I didn't know.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED.
I didn't just go ahead and make assumptions.
I asked questions. I looked into it.
Then TooConservative, in a futile attempt to make herself look like a hero to Gold-Lox, Pinguinite, christine and whoever else she thought she might impress, made it sound as though I was accusing Goldi-Lox of something and had concocted some crazy delusional conspiracy theory in my head.
I wasn't though.
I just wanted to know why there was this 'libertypost.net' when I thought it was suppposed to be libertypost.org.
TooConservative thought she was going to mock and ridicule wudidiz and instead TooConservative got a piece of my mind.
A very small piece.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
Oh boy he said snarky. That is so so bad. Look at what you said fool.
Some of these Truthers are quite needy and paranoid. Kind of like a crack baby that screams for attention and then screams when anyone so much as looks them in the eye.
Libertypost.com and libertypost.us are owned by the USPS and that isn't sinister either.
Huh? Who would have known that LP is owned by the Post Office. So there is no real Goldi, it's some person sitting in a post office somewhere running the show. Well that explains why "Goldi" goes "postal" at times I guess.
What sort of detective work did you do to arrive at that conclusion?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Or maybe Goldi and Christine are just two ladies who run chat forums, as they appear to be.
Why are you dragging christine into this? Wudidiz wasn't saying anything about 4um domain names, he was talking about libertypost.net and .org, which you apparently think is owned by the post office. Now which is it, does Goldi own LP or is it USPS?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#77. To: Lod, Original_Intent, Pinguinite. all (#40)
I don't recall any so-called terrorist plots being busted that didn't involve an FBI agent being proactively involved in the mix somehow.
Rule Number 1: Always assume that the the guy baiting you into doing something illegal is a fed.
Rule Number 2: If you think he isn't, refer to Rule Number 1.
Let me get this straight.
Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke.
That's the exact thing that crosses my mind when I see these Rambo types posting their intents on a public forum, trying to lure people into "discussing things" with them offline perhaps.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Huh? Who would have known that LP is owned by the Post Office. So there is no real Goldi, it's some person sitting in a post office somewhere running the show. Well that explains why "Goldi" goes "postal" at times I guess.
USPS owns libertypost.us and libertypost.com. I can't figure out why but I assume it is historical.
Goldi owns libertypost.org and libertypost.net.
What sort of detective work did you do to arrive at that conclusion?
Umm...I looked them up at GoDaddy.com?
Just enter the domain name and hit Search. When the page comes up to tell you the name is already taken, click the link for info on who owns the domain.
Quite revealing. It's easy to find this stuff out.