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Title: Internet geeks here! Who can determine how many web spiders/crawlers are on 4um??
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Post Date: 2009-11-20 03:04:08 by X-15
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"Web spiders/crawlers: programs that search websites looking for specific words or patterns to compile into a database." A popular gun website I visit had 20 running, if 4um has less then I assume it has a lower profile in the eyes of FedGov.
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#1. To: X-15, Pinguinite, christine (#0)
You'd need access to christine's server logs to get a good idea. However, there are many kinds of spiders, some quite difficult to detect. Here is a quickie spider that I wrote. It runs on the Mac, OS X 10.5 Leopard. However, it is a standard Bash script and should work easily on Linux or Unix systems, probably in a Cygwin setup on Windows too. The script uses Lynx, a venerable text-only browser, to fetch my Comments page to a file called htmlsource1. It then uses the stream editor Sed to parse this captured HTML file by scanning the right column for news stories, capturing the thread names and URLs at 4um to a file called htmlsource2. It then uses Lynx to capture each thread to a separate file by thread number in a subdirectory called '4um'. You could build a database or use text search tools like grep to mine the stored threads for info. No doubt, various federal agencies and people like ADL or SPLC use scripts like this to capture many forums and use grep and other search tools to scan each thread captured for relevant keywords to flag them for review by human beings. I'm presenting this so that 4um folks can get some idea of how these agencies and busybodies operate. Geeks know this stuff but the average person has no idea how easy it is. People should know how easy it is to database their every remark since we no longer live in a free country. # # lynx directory LYNX=/usr/bin/lynx # IP host HOST='freedom4um.com' DIRNAME='4um' if [ ! -d "$DIRNAME" ]; then $LYNX -source "http://$HOST/cgi-bin/latestcomments.cgi?SNSearch=1&EM=on&Fm=&To=TooConservative" > lynxhtmlsource1 sed -n "/ /,/ FETCHCOUNT=0 rm -f lynxhtmlsource1 lynxhtmlsource2 if [ $FETCHCOUNT -ne 0 ]; then exit
I'm presenting this so that 4um folks can get some idea of how these agencies and busybodies operate. Geeks know this stuff but the average person has no idea how easy it is. People should know how easy it is to database their every remark since we no longer live in a free country. Thank you for the reply and info!
_________________________________________________________________________ thank you, TC.
BTW, by changing only a few lines in the above code, I could slowly download your entire database and reconstruct each poster's remarks. Essentially, your mySQL database could be replicated by downloading all the threads and parsing the user comments into a new mySQL database. I'm sure Neil could point this out as well, probably better than I can. This is why watching your server logs for an IP that downloads every thread or an IP that downloads every thread in the database sequentially is good to do. Anyway, this seemed a good thread to point this stuff out.
can that be done on any forum?
Yes. You only have to parse for the HTML tags and CSS classes. Not at all difficult. I once wrote a Firefox extension that allowed me to entirely replace the look and feel of TOS, add backgrounds, insert YouTubes to replace the YouTube links, implement my own browser-based bozo filter, etc. It's quite easy. You have to have good server log analytic software to find out if your site is being mined. Now, 4um isn't really high traffic so you can probably get a good idea by looking at IP addresses. You should watch for IP addresses that only read threads (and that read every thread) and never post. Those lurkers can just as easily be spiders for ADL, FBI, SPLC, NetNanny, Google, etc. In fact, you should assume that you are being spidered this way until you can prove otherwise. And the spidering of your threads could just as easily come from multiple IP addresses. You can deter some of this by requiring the use of cookies but a competent programmer can fake that too. You should assume that every word you put online will be recorded. The Feds are building huge new datacenters to store the content of the entire internet and all cell phones and landlines. They may make no use of that unless and until they detect (or need) to chase a domestic threat for terrorism or hate crimes. It is at that point that you will receive a subpoena for your server logs to obtain IP addresses (if they don't already have them by being on the backbone and sniffing everything) and an included order that you will not tell anyone that they are assembling evidence. After that, the ISPs for those requested IP addresses will get national security directives and subpoenas to provide their logs to identify the IP address and they would also be silenced. This is is the new Soviet Amerika. Welcome to the gulag, comrade.
I was wondering how a certain poster appeared on a thread so quickly where the word heebs was used. I suspect a spider looking for certain keywords.
Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? - buckeroo Not only did the PC Avenger appear, but so did another defender of Obama and big government. The Rats are spiders.
Pray for Obama: Psalm 1984
In addition, you can google a deleted thread and download it from "cache". It will live forever once it has been posted.
_________________________________________________________________________ It all happened way too quick to be coinkydink, no?
Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? - buckeroo It was a partial infestation of leftists, which is now under control. After the last set of Marxists were booted, I no longer believe in coinkydinks when dealing with them :P
Pray for Obama: Psalm 1984
Who dat?
AKA Stone. I think he's in love with you:
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Pray for Obama: Psalm 1984
Oh nooooooooooooooooo! Another reason to hide under my bed and think up more scapegoats!
Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the center cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. .... Yeats
Thanks, but no thanks on the link. I don't go to those kind of websites, but I can imagine. ZioNutterBuddy needs to learn when someone is pulling his leg. When he goes on his tirades, it does more to further the cause of anti-semitism than Adolph Hitler or Mahmoud Iran-Dude could ever hope to achieve. If he's not careful, Abe Foxman is gonna have a price on ZioNutterBuddy's head one of these days. Sometimes I wonder if he's not a clever StormFronter playing a rabid ZioNutter and going on about kill, kill, killing the goys to wake people up about the jews. Kook or Klever, too klose to kall.
Well, there is always the possibility of coincidence. But then again... You shouldn't post anything assuming that it is somehow anonymous. That includes email and all internet activity. And don't assume your internal network is absolutely secure either. I don't think anything has been truly anonymous for at least the last five years, maybe before. And certainly, the entire future will be recorded and used against you in a court of law. Words to the wise.
What do you think of this?
Packrat posted a link to to an LP post. When I clicked on it, it led me to this website. I didn't realize it wasn't libertypost.org until after I had to sign in with my password in order to reply back to him.
not found???
That's odd, it was there when I posted it. It said the site had changed hands 3 times in the last year and had been registered since 2008.
Try it from here?
Here's what we know about liberty-post.net: View 6 ownership records archived since 2008-04-07 . libertypost.net was around before 2008 if I remember right.
No doubt whatsoever.
What do you think of this? I think that libertypost.org is not related to those various liberty-post domains. Why, what do you think of it?
Just for fun, I ran my script again for the first time in months. Since I didn't have any recent threads in my cache of 4um threads, it processed the entire news article sidebar. You can see the time stamp so you can check your logs and find this access. Then I ran the script again a few minutes later. Since no new articles had been posted, it found nothing new to cache. As I said, this crappy little Bash script isn't really even a spider, just a webserver capture script. If you wrote in a higher level language and sniff headers and such, it would be quite easy to become extremely sophisticated about this. I could churn out a real spider in very short order as could Neil or tons of script kiddies. As for the posters here at 4um, one should assume that FBI and other agencies may employ agentes provocateur in the classic style they used against the Klan and others. Assuming that you had, say, a half-dozen posters here that post the most vitriolic content on the site, they could greatly raise the profile of 4um with SPLC/ADL/FBI quite easily. After all, what would they do if they couldn't point to the dire threat of rampant political incorrectness online? And how else could they assemble the "evidence" that there are vicious racists out there which justifies the usual begging letters sent out to donors by SPLC/ADL or the begging to Congress for staff and vast new computer systems by FBI/NSA/etc.? Hey, if that well isn't producing enough, you just have to prime the pump a little, baby! So even if you're running a legit free speech forum (and I have no reason to believe anything else though I consider the possibility), that doesn't mean that your forum might not be used as a honeypot for the race hustlers like ADL/SPLC or by various letters of the alphabet like F, B, or I. As I've demonstrated, it's quite easy to do.
website downloader
Apparently, I didn't escape the double-quotes properly so that is why my script didn't download all the threads. Neil would not make such an elementary error. My fault. :) Now, I have to decide if fixing it is worth the time. I really don't like Sed. And doing this stuff from a Bash script really is tedious.
Ping to #22.
No biggie, but please allow a bit more time for it, say one thread every 2 seconds. Going too fast, at least at a busy time, could cause the server to bog down. Mainstream search spiders from google and such hit sites much less often.
Oh, I make that one often enough!
I always assume that to be the case. If some invites, directly or indirectly, comments which could be incriminating, incitement to violence, or libelous I assume, provisionally pending further data, that I am dealing with a provocateur or shill of some kind. I also assume the government and their filthy vermin traitorous minions know exactly who I am and where I live. So, they can go fuck themselves (pardon the French). Since I do not make personal threats against even politicians and figures whom I despise as long as they have to maintain a pretense that they are obeying the Constitution I'm safe. Once they try to dispense with it I head for the hills. ;-)
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
It's rather amazing that in every recent case where someone is caught plotting "terrorism", the accused was found trying to buy weapons or bombs of whatever sort from an FBI agent. Seems the modern terrorists never have their own sources of such things, and they instead have to rely on sources given them by these FBI provocateurs. I don't recall any so-called terrorist plots being busted that didn't involve an FBI agent being proactively involved in the mix somehow.
That's why they call it Home Grown Terrorism.
Racking my memory I can't think of any exceptions. The elites need to keep the "Sarrorism" card in play to keep the suckers supporting their fear, and not opposing their control. So, the Feral Bureau of Instigation is doing its part by creating "terrorism" on demand. This is part of the ongoing array of PsyOps to keep the ignorant who believe "Pills" Limbaugh, Vannity, Michael Savage-Weiner, BOORtz, Faux Nooze, and the other controlled Networks, buying the need to shovel the dollars off to the Banksters and MIC along with their freedom and their future.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Noone wants to touch this stuff. Disconcerting.
What is your problem anyway? She owns both domain names and points both of them to her site. If you use libertypost.net as your URL, it mostly works but you won't have the same browser cookies (it seems) so it may look or act a little differently on a few screens. You might have to sign in again or whatnot. Libertypost.net points to the server for libertypost.org. Libertypost.com and libertypost.us are owned by the USPS and that isn't sinister either. Pointing multiple domains at a single server or server farm is a very common practice. This is how places like Amazon and Newegg work too.
How do you know that?
Rude people are so.... I dunno... rude.
Because noone would ever think of something so outrageous as duplicating a website. The idea is simply preposterous. For anyone to even think of such a thing or question it is clearly and indication of well, that they have a problem. Forgive me Maam for my ignorance or paranoia or stupidity or whatever my problem is, but isn't the fact that there are two different urls mean that there are two different websites? Regardless of how similar they look?
How snarky you are, wudi. Nevertheless, I'll answer you, noting the irony of you calling me rude. All website servers and all computers (and devices like addressable routers) occupy a dotted-IP address on the internet, just as your own home network has its own range of addresses. So your home network might use the common reserved range of addresses 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.255.255. In other words, a range of 65536 addresses (roughly) are reserved from any server or other LAN using them. So you might use an IP address of 192.168.0.1 for your DSL modem, the router you connect to it might use 192.168.1.1 and then all your home network computers could use addresses in the range 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.254. So a place like libertypost.org has a server with a dotted-IP address too. The dotted-IP address is what you access, the name is just a convenient way to access the actually address. You can point one domain name to a webserver. Or you can point a million names to a webserver. Or you can point different domain names to different subdirectories of the same server. Or whatever. Domain names don't care what you point them at. And the domain registrars are happy when you buy multiple names so they make more money. So, using common utilities, you can look up the actual dotted-IP address of LibertyPost. So you can see for yourself that the two names are the same. You can also just use the dotted-IP address since that is what you always end up using anyway. The name only translates to the number. So try clicking it: 69.55.11.240. Once again, you arrive at LibertyPost. Unless Goldi really is the supersecret hacker of all time. You can verify these domain names are at these numbers as I've told you by using your Command Prompt on Windows XP (or its equivalent on Vista or Win7). It's found in the Programs->Accessories folder. Once you open it, you can type nslookup to find your own primary, probably a DSL modem or router in your house. You can then enter libertypost.net or libertypost.org or whatever to check for yourself what the IP address really is. Type 'exit' to leave nslookup and then type 'exit' again to dismiss the command prompt and return to Windows. You can also google for 'nslookup' and use the online versions of these but you can't really trust those nslookup sites either because it might be Goldi running them all on her secret Evil Servers. Obviously, you can trust no one. It's really sad. Of course, Goldi's site, like 4um, runs from a single mySQL database using a bunch of Perl scripts and PHP pages, the most common kind of interactive site. So it is possible that she has two "copies" of her site, one with Good Decent Godfearing code, the other with the Supersecret Evil Goldi-Lox Killer code. So that if you go to libertypost.org, you get the Good Decent Godfearing version and if you go to libertypost.net, you get the Supersecrect Evil Goldi-Lox Killer version. Now, this whole notion of a good Goldi-server and an evil Goldi-server is somewhat daft. First, Goldi would have to be a lot more sophisticated than she is about servers and writing code. She doesn't do any of that stuff and hasn't even upgraded her older Pinguinite code (written by Neil and available for free) to the newer Pinguinite code that christine uses here which has more features, is more secure, etc. Beyond that, the idea of Goldi-two-servers is rather odd because the first principle of Being Evil is: Don't let anyone figure out that you really are evil. Now, I can go to any of the three known methods of reaching LibertyPost via libertypost.org or libertypost.net or 69.55.11.240 (among who knows how many other evil versions of LP there are), and the pages are the same, the most recent articles are the same, the most recent comments are the same. And again, I can sign in to any of them and they behave identically. Now, since everyone but you and a bunch of old cat ladies posting on Usenet or chatting on IRC already knows the above info, then what sense would it make to have the Goldi-two-servers thing? None whatsoever. What would be more interesting would be to have a single server with the two names pointed at it but monitor the access to it by the IP addresses of those you have banned from it. This way, you can be Evil to banned or disliked users but never look Evil to the Chosen People of LibertyPost (those who Goldi hasn't banned, this being 4um, I thought that was fun way to express it). And people on Goldi's ban list are always going to be assumed to be nursing a grudge anyway so no one will believe their accusations. So you might choose to be paranoid and think that Goldi is only running her Supersecret Evil Goldi-Code if you visit her server but she does show no signs of such code or admin sophistication and sneakiness. It really is just her chat board, I think. But you can believe or make up anything you like if you enjoy that more. But I see no reason to believe that Goldi or Christine are quite so powerful or obsessed over their chat boards as that would require. Now, me posting this much text to you, that might in and of itself seem Quite Evil to some folks despite my obvious benevolent intentions. But then, perhaps paranoid nihilism really is the safest policy and you have to assume that every website and every server and every person is out to get you and that they are also only figments of your own imagination. Of course, maybe Goldi is Christine and 4um/LP are just two of her servers. Maybe Goldi/Christine is an employee of FBI/NSA/ADL/SPLC and these sites are just honeypots, beginning to end. Let your imagination run wild. Or maybe Goldi and Christine are just two ladies who run chat forums, as they appear to be.
It's easiest just to assume that everything you say online will be added to a gooberment dossier and may be used against you in court someday.
P.: Oh, I make that one often enough!
As much as I appreciate your thoughtful response, I have never implied that Goldi was responsible for having two websites if there were two websites. You started being rude to me by asking 'What is your problem anyway?' at post #43. Until then, I have never been anything but polite to you. I had a question and although you answered it well (finally), you have been rather mean and (I'll use your word) snarky. Than you for your very informative and sarcastic (or whatever you want to call that shit) post. Now go fuck yourself, you stupid, ass-kissing cunt. (Edited by wudidiz for grammatical errors.)
You first started off with liberty-post.org and liberty-post.net (which are entirely different domain names from libertypost.org and libertypost.net since domain names can include only lower-case letters, numerals, hyphens). Then you switched to complaining about libertypost.net, demanding attention and complaining that no one was posting about them. Despite the fact that the rest of us already knew what was up with those domains. A perfect example of why you tend to get banned from a lot of websites. What a martyr.
No I didn't. Bullshitting moron. You're really turning out to be quite the piece of work, aren't you. Didn't I tell you to go fuck yourself already?
You call that complaining and demanding attention? lmao Who's this 'the rest of us' you're referring to?
What exactly are these 'alot of websites' you're talking about now? Go fuck yourself again you delusional freak.
Go back to ElPee. They need your bundle of bad energy over there.
You could have gave me all that information without being such a sickeningly vile twat about it. But no, you just had to jump at the opportunity to be mean, didn't you? You were just waiting like a snake in the grass to try and take advantage of poor stupid wud and make a fool out of him, eh? Stuff a cock in your mouth and shut the fuck up.
You're really turning out to be quite the piece of work, aren't you. Didn't I tell you to go fuck yourself already? Oh. Yeah, I guess I did do that. I googled libertpost.net and one of the things that came up was this: http://whois.domaintools.com/liberty-post.net Still doesn't give Mizz smart-ass reason to jump down my throat because I'm ignorant about how websites work. What an asshole. I've been posting on this site for a couple of years now and I don't recall ever being treated as shittily as this 'TooConservative' poster has here.
I submit as evidence your last seven consecutive posts, all essentially content-free ad hominems. LOL. That you're posting like this so early in the morning in North America says something about you as well.
I submit
as evidence your last seven consecutive posts, all essentially content-free ad
hominems. LOL. Evidence for what? You seem to have a
problem understanding cause and effect. You see, you started it. I
wasn't complaining or demanding attention. I asked a simple, honest,
innocent question. I wanted to know what was up with the two domain names,
libertypost.net and libertypost.org. You had posted something about
downloading websites. You ASSUMED that I thought Gold-Lox was responsible
for.... I won't even get into it. YOU ASSUMED WRONG. You could have just
been nice and informed me with what you knew or ignored me. But you
didn't. You tried to project your own delusion, fear and doubt onto me as
if you knew what I was thinking and the reasoning for my question. You
appear to me to be one of those educated, knowledgable people that are
actually quite stupid. Anyone with enough intelligence could read this
thread and see what actually happened and how you attacked me without
provocation. You thought you would make a fool of me and you thought
wrong. You're the fool. No amount of clever wording or trickery or
projection or hypocrisy will change that. Now, go back to LP and try
attacking someone there and when they attack you back, go rat to Goldi about
how they attacked you. Asshole.
You should shut up. You are making an ass of yourself as usual. Conservative has been to nice to you. Also who are you to try and run people away from Christines site?
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#47. To: wudidiz, christine, Pinguinite (#46) Forgive me Maam for my ignorance or paranoia or stupidity or whatever my problem is, but isn't the fact that there are two different urls mean that there are two different websites? Regardless of how similar they look? How snarky you are, wudi. Nevertheless, I'll answer you, noting the irony of you calling me rude. All website servers and all computers (and devices like addressable routers) occupy a dotted-IP address on the internet, just as your own home network has its own range of addresses. So your home network might use the common reserved range of addresses 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.255.255. In other words, a range of 65536 addresses (roughly) are reserved from any server or other LAN using them. So you might use an IP address of 192.168.0.1 for your DSL modem, the router you connect to it might use 192.168.1.1 and then all your home network computers could use addresses in the range 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.254. So a place like libertypost.org has a server with a dotted-IP address too. The dotted-IP address is what you access, the name is just a convenient way to access the actually address. You can point one domain name to a webserver. Or you can point a million names to a webserver. Or you can point different domain names to different subdirectories of the same server. Or whatever. Domain names don't care what you point them at. And the domain registrars are happy when you buy multiple names so they make more money. So, using common utilities, you can look up the actual dotted-IP address of LibertyPost. libertypost.net. 236 IN A 69.55.11.240 libertypost.org. 236 IN A 69.55.11.240 So you can see for yourself that the two names are the same. You can also just use the dotted-IP address since that is what you always end up using anyway. The name only translates to the number. So try clicking it: 69.55.11.240. Once again, you arrive at LibertyPost. Unless Goldi really is the supersecret hacker of all time. You can verify these domain names are at these numbers as I've told you by using your Command Prompt on Windows XP (or its equivalent on Vista or Win7). It's found in the Programs->Accessories folder. Once you open it, you can type nslookup to find your own primary, probably a DSL modem or router in your house. You can then enter libertypost.net or libertypost.org or whatever to check for yourself what the IP address really is. Type 'exit' to leave nslookup and then type 'exit' again to dismiss the command prompt and return to Windows. You can also google for 'nslookup' and use the online versions of these but you can't really trust those nslookup sites either because it might be Goldi running them all on her secret Evil Servers. Obviously, you can trust no one. It's really sad. Of course, Goldi's site, like 4um, runs from a single mySQL database using a bunch of Perl scripts and PHP pages, the most common kind of interactive site. So it is possible that she has two "copies" of her site, one with Good Decent Godfearing code, the other with the Supersecret Evil Goldi-Lox Killer code. So that if you go to libertypost.org, you get the Good Decent Godfearing version and if you go to libertypost.net, you get the Supersecrect Evil Goldi-Lox Killer version. Now, this whole notion of a good Goldi-server and an evil Goldi-server is somewhat daft. First, Goldi would have to be a lot more sophisticated than she is about servers and writing code. She doesn't do any of that stuff and hasn't even upgraded her older Pinguinite code (written by Neil and available for free) to the newer Pinguinite code that christine uses here which has more features, is more secure, etc. Beyond that, the idea of Goldi-two-servers is rather odd because the first principle of Being Evil is: Don't let anyone figure out that you really are evil. Now, I can go to any of the three known methods of reaching LibertyPost via libertypost.org or libertypost.net or 69.55.11.240 (among who knows how many other evil versions of LP there are), and the pages are the same, the most recent articles are the same, the most recent comments are the same. And again, I can sign in to any of them and they behave identically. Now, since everyone but you and a bunch of old cat ladies posting on Usenet or chatting on IRC already knows the above info, then what sense would it make to have the Goldi-two-servers thing? None whatsoever. What would be more interesting would be to have a single server with the two names pointed at it but monitor the access to it by the IP addresses of those you have banned from it. This way, you can be Evil to banned or disliked users but never look Evil to the Chosen People of LibertyPost (those who Goldi hasn't banned, this being 4um, I thought that was fun way to express it). And people on Goldi's ban list are always going to be assumed to be nursing a grudge anyway so no one will believe their accusations. So you might choose to be paranoid and think that Goldi is only running her Supersecret Evil Goldi-Code if you visit her server but she does show no signs of such code or admin sophistication and sneakiness. It really is just her chat board, I think. But you can believe or make up anything you like if you enjoy that more. But I see no reason to believe that Goldi or Christine are quite so powerful or obsessed over their chat boards as that would require. Now, me posting this much text to you, that might in and of itself seem Quite Evil to some folks despite my obvious benevolent intentions. But then, perhaps paranoid nihilism really is the safest policy and you have to assume that every website and every server and every person is out to get you and that they are also only figments of your own imagination. Of course, maybe Goldi is Christine and 4um/LP are just two of her servers. Maybe Goldi/Christine is an employee of FBI/NSA/ADL/SPLC and these sites are just honeypots, beginning to end. Let your imagination run wild. Or maybe Goldi and Christine are just two ladies who run chat forums, as they appear to be. TooConservative posted on 2009-11-22 8:06:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
What you're still doing here is a fucking mystery to me.
Oh boy he said snarky. That is so so bad. Look at what you said fool.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
I was here before you. I will be here after you. Ok asshole.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
You two geniuses wanna explain to me how you figure I ever thought any of this? Stupid people bug me.
Weren't you banned already, Old Fiend?
I thought maybe it was a duplicate website to get people to sign in so whoever owned it could get their password. But, I didn't know. THAT'S WHY I ASKED. I didn't just go ahead and make assumptions. I asked questions. I looked into it. Then TooConservative, in a futile attempt to make herself look like a hero to Gold-Lox, Pinguinite, christine and whoever else she thought she might impress, made it sound as though I was accusing Goldi-Lox of something and had concocted some crazy delusional conspiracy theory in my head. I wasn't though. I just wanted to know why there was this 'libertypost.net' when I thought it was suppposed to be libertypost.org. TooConservative thought she was going to mock and ridicule wudidiz and instead TooConservative got a piece of my mind. A very small piece.
A very small piece. You can have it back. I can see you have little to spare.
Some of these Truthers are quite needy and paranoid. Kind of like a crack baby that screams for attention and then screams when anyone so much as looks them in the eye.
No. It's yours now. For the rest of your life. As a reminder of what you'll get for treating me the way you did and still are. There's lots more where that came from. Now go away.
What are you? A liar?
Of course, maybe Goldi is Christine and 4um/LP are just two of her servers. Maybe Goldi/Christine is an employee of FBI/NSA/ADL/SPLC and these sites are just honeypots, beginning to end. Let your imagination run wild. Can anyone show me where I have posted anything that would warrant me having to read this bullshit?
Huh? Who would have known that LP is owned by the Post Office. So there is no real Goldi, it's some person sitting in a post office somewhere running the show. Well that explains why "Goldi" goes "postal" at times I guess. What sort of detective work did you do to arrive at that conclusion?
Why are you dragging christine into this? Wudidiz wasn't saying anything about 4um domain names, he was talking about libertypost.net and .org, which you apparently think is owned by the post office. Now which is it, does Goldi own LP or is it USPS?
Rule Number 1: Always assume that the the guy baiting you into doing something illegal is a fed. Rule Number 2: If you think he isn't, refer to Rule Number 1.
Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? - buckeroo That's the exact thing that crosses my mind when I see these Rambo types posting their intents on a public forum, trying to lure people into "discussing things" with them offline perhaps.
USPS owns libertypost.us and libertypost.com. I can't figure out why but I assume it is historical. Goldi owns libertypost.org and libertypost.net. Umm...I looked them up at GoDaddy.com? Just enter the domain name and hit Search. When the page comes up to tell you the name is already taken, click the link for info on who owns the domain. Quite revealing. It's easy to find this stuff out.
You manage to be both needy and bitter, all in less than a paragraph. Nice work.
LOL. ROFLMAO.
My mind played a trick on me and I thought you had written libertypost.ORG and libertypost.us. But yeah, sort of odd that USPS uses an identical subdomain name.
You manage to be both needy and bitter, all in less than a paragraph. Nice work. What's this business about 'truthers'? I guess you're not a 'truther', is that right? So what are you, a liar? You seem to have a real big problem when it comes to answering simple questions. That's what happens when stupid people complicate their simple minds with such things as education and knowledge isn't it? Go ahead, prove me right again, asshole.
ROFLMAO. Keep laughin' asshole.
Speaking from personal experience? And why the cheap shot against those who know the official 9/11 legend is bullshit?
And why the cheap shot against those who know the official 9/11 legend is bullshit? Good luck getting a straight answer out of the piece of work calling itself TooConservative.
He (or she) appears to be ignoring me for some reason or another...
Maybe waiting to come up with a sarcastic, shnotty, stupid answer? Maybe to tell you how preposterous and paranoid you are?
Either of you ever going to make a meaningful informed post on the topic? However fulfilling you find making silly ad hominems on me to be, you may recall this thread is about web spiders, how to detect them, what they are, how they operate, etc.? Other than wudi's delusional notions about various liberty____.___ domain names, do you guys have anything to actually contribute to the topic?
Perhaps you missed this question. Do you have an answer? "And why the cheap shot against those who know the official 9/11 legend is bullshit?" I have no issues with your comments concerning web spiders, however, you decided to divert from that topic, so I'm just asking why, and what do you have to say about it.
Because I saw wudi making enemies for the RP movement on other sites because he had to carry the Truther banner and try to associate RP with it, despite the fact that RP himself only favored fuller investigations of 9/11, not any kind of endorsement of MIHOP or LIHOP Trutherism. BTW, I do not intend to take this thread on an excursion into Trutherism. I am quite familiar with how bitter the adherents are for those who do not find the cut-and-paste Alex Jones articles quite so compelling. I mention it only because wudi got chased off a couple of conservative forums with Truth threads.
You just don't know when to admit you're wrong do you? Got a link for that?
BTW, I do not intend to take this thread on an excursion into Trutherism. I am quite familiar with how bitter the adherents are for those who do not find the cut-and-paste Alex Jones articles quite so compelling. I mention it only because wudi got chased off a couple of conservative forums with Truth threads. So you decided you'd jump on the bandwagon and be my enemy? How did I 'make enemies for the RP movement'? What are these 'other sites' of which you speak? lol How was I associating RP with the 'Truther banner'? What are these 'couple of conservative forums with Truth threads'? Don't worry now, I don't expect someone as unreasonable and dishonest as yourself to answer any or all of these direct questions.
Like I would care quite so much about who boots you off a forum. But since you asked so nicely, I spent ten seconds looking at LP, just one site, for your posts. I found this LP thread. That was only one week ago, and here you are at 4um, trying to pretend that no one has ever banned you. Banning offense. You must be doing that to 1. force me to ban you 2 stir up a fight because of it ---------------- You called someone a pedophile. THAT isn't even a debatable ban. It's instant and without recourse. Have a nice life...someplace else. Trying to be a little disingenuous for an audience, wudi? I notice that somehow this thread has also become all about you. What a surprise. But, no, you aren't "needy", not at all.
Like I say, you're just one of those educated, knowledgeable people that's actually quite stupid.
Yet you already have confided in Stone .....one of the bigger flakes in the universe or haven't you visited his website lately?. There are plenty of discrepancies about 911 that should be discussed especially WTC7, Ron Paul isn't running anymore and I doubt Wudidiz had one iota of influence on him losing when he had enemies such as OReilly, Beck and the GOP establishment to isolate and diss him, and deny him media coverage. Really.... one little poster on a website had such an influence? You are usually better than that.
Okay, that's really impressive. Now answer the direct questions I gave you or stop posting to me. Just answer one at at time. C'mon, you can do it. Oh, you're gonna have fun here.
I notice you refuse to respond to my posted proof that you are lying deliberately about getting kicked off a forum. And in the last week too.
ROTFLOL!!!!! Wudoofus, the pansy-ass, canuckistani displaying his abject stupidity once again! I'm not happy until you're not happy!
Shut up, yukon.
I notice you refuse to respond to my posted proof that you are lying deliberately about getting kicked off a forum. And in the last week too. Show me where I lied about getting kicked off of a forum. C'mon, you can do it. Cuz you're smart, remember?
I haven't "confided" in Stone, nor did I flag him here to this thread (but I will flag him now). AFAIK, I have never visited his site since I didn't know (or care) that he had a site or want to visit it. I vaguely recall a few threads where I was in agreement with him (maybe antiwar stuff) but more often disagree with him on a broader range of topics. On many forums, the Truthers who tried to hijack the RP campaign tried to use RP as their Truther "champion", much as they later used the foolish Charley Sheen to make that stupid commercial to Zero. Sheen wasn't the only one either. It was a burned-bridge strategy. Posters like that made it virtually impossible to advocate steadily from Ron Paul. We still get smeared on RP threads on various forums simply because of this. Even on the main RP forums, the Truthers were always trying to stage a takeover. It was similar to how various elements tried to take over JBS surreptiously back in the Sixties and Seventies. In the end, JBS was so tarred by this repeated subterfuge that they still cannot be an effective organization to this day. Parasites who try to take over organizations to use them for their own purposes generally disgust me. I am fairly consistent with this, for instance, rejecting the complete takeover of the GOP by the neocons.
Dishonest people aren't capable of recognizing the truth or discerning fact from fiction. Their constitution won't allow it.
So to try and cover up your bullshit and divert from the questions you're being asked, you're attempting to blame me for Ron Paul not becoming the President? I suppose it's my fault for 9/11 now, too. How clever you are.
I'm counting 1 spider/crawler.
Trying to micromanage voter's other interests and issues is futile. Anyway most of that consisted of excuses and smokescreens that the MSM and others used and they will find other smears and create other spot fires when those go away or are proven false. Keeping their opponents disunited and busy putting out fires is their motto. It's better to just ignore them and keep persevering.
My comment was not an opportunity for you to engage in some free-association exercise. Try reading it again. Maybe you just don't read adequately or lack the capability of reading more than a few sentences at once. That has become quite common with the products of the public skrools over the last few decades, those whose educations were the most neglected are the most "needy" people on the web.
Yeah. It's because of posters like me that you get smeared on various forums for advocating Ron Paul. There, now you have someone to blame.
You haven't answered any of my questions. You're a liar. Simple as that. I've just exposed you as one and you don't even realize it. I read adequately enough and for your information, I read one sentence at a time. That's how I keep up. Go ahead, try it. Now go back, read the questions I asked you and answer them. One at a time. Or stfu.
I'm still waiting for you to make your first on-topic post on this thread (that wasn't just some nonsense of the supposedly sinister libertypost.net or your confusion about liberty-post.net as opposed to libertypost.net). You've now managed to make more than half this thread all about little wudidiz. That's pretty much your intent on any thread where anyone disagrees with you, whether you're aware of it or not. And of course, someone else is always to blame for it, aren't they?
At least you finally admit the truth.
Hi Yuki!
LOL Amen!
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy."
You've now managed to make more than half this thread all about little wudidiz. That's pretty much your intent on any thread where anyone disagrees with you, whether you're aware of it or not. And of course, someone else is always to blame for it, aren't they? You're to blame for what you've posted here, not me. Like I say, answer my questions or stop posting to me. Lying asshole.
At least you finally admit the truth. No, stupid. I was being sarcastic. I always tell the truth. You lie.
I think you two scared Yukon off... ;-)
There must not be much other entertainment in your neck of the woods, if you over react like that. Too bad. But stay there.... the jails around here are full.
I answered all your on-topic posts, incoherent and uninformed as they were. I answered at some length and in detail. But your rudeness is all the thanks I need.
It all makes sense now......I always thought Goldi-Lox was a tad bit postal. : )
Since you bring up a thread from LP where apparently wud had gotten fed up with ButtSniffer over there and responded to him harshly, getting himself banned, do you support ByteShredder's constant barrage of ugly personal attacks against anyone who doesn't toe the Goldi-Lox/Israeli/NWO line?
As far as the Ron Paul movement, Goldi snuffed that out on her website prior to the first primary. She started banning anyone who posted anything positive about him, and allowed people such as 50yardline (or whatever his handle was at the time) to post idiotic threads such as what RP had for lunch, or outright negative threads about him accusing him of being anti-semetic, associated with white supremists, you name it, he posted it. So I really find it hard to believe you have a problem with wudidiz, where I've never seen you say boo to the idiot who WAS spamming LP with anti RP propaganda, and given free reign to do so.
Yukon is very afraid of me. The man has no balls.
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy."
But your rudeness is all the thanks I need. Listen asshole, if you're going to accuse me of something, be prepared to back it up. If not, shut up and stop posting to me.
That's because it's just pulling the Ron Paul card as a lame excuse for falsely accusing me and being snarky, snotty, snitty and sarcastic. TooConservative is nothing more than a closed-minded, stupid asshole.
I can't understand anyone being afraid of you. You're a sweetheart! ;-)
BTW, I do not intend to take this thread on an excursion into Trutherism. I am quite familiar with how bitter the adherents are for those who do not find the cut-and-paste Alex Jones articles quite so compelling. I mention it only because wudi got chased off a couple of conservative forums with Truth threads. making enemies? Prove it. other sites? Prove it. try to associate RP with the Truther banner? Prove it. chased off a couple of conservative forums with Truth threads? Prove it. You never will because you can't because I never did. Moron.
#47. To: wudidiz, christine, Pinguinite (#46) How snarky you are, wudi. Nevertheless, I'll answer you, noting the irony of you calling me rude. All website servers and all computers (and devices like addressable routers) occupy a dotted-IP address on the internet, just as your own home network has its own range of addresses. So your home network might use the common reserved range of addresses 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.255.255. In other words, a range of 65536 addresses (roughly) are reserved from any server or other LAN using them. So you might use an IP address of 192.168.0.1 for your DSL modem, the router you connect to it might use 192.168.1.1 and then all your home network computers could use addresses in the range 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.254. So a place like libertypost.org has a server with a dotted-IP address too. The dotted-IP address is what you access, the name is just a convenient way to access the actually address. You can point one domain name to a webserver. Or you can point a million names to a webserver. Or you can point different domain names to different subdirectories of the same server. Or whatever. Domain names don't care what you point them at. And the domain registrars are happy when you buy multiple names so they make more money. So, using common utilities, you can look up the actual dotted-IP address of LibertyPost. libertypost.net. 236 IN A 69.55.11.240 libertypost.org. 236 IN A 69.55.11.240 So you can see for yourself that the two names are the same. You can also just use the dotted-IP address since that is what you always end up using anyway. The name only translates to the number. So try clicking it: 69.55.11.240. Once again, you arrive at LibertyPost. Unless Goldi really is the supersecret hacker of all time. You can verify these domain names are at these numbers as I've told you by using your Command Prompt on Windows XP (or its equivalent on Vista or Win7). It's found in the Programs->Accessories folder. Once you open it, you can type nslookup to find your own primary, probably a DSL modem or router in your house. You can then enter libertypost.net or libertypost.org or whatever to check for yourself what the IP address really is. Type 'exit' to leave nslookup and then type 'exit' again to dismiss the command prompt and return to Windows. You can also google for 'nslookup' and use the online versions of these but you can't really trust those nslookup sites either because it might be Goldi running them all on her secret Evil Servers. Obviously, you can trust no one. It's really sad. Of course, Goldi's site, like 4um, runs from a single mySQL database using a bunch of Perl scripts and PHP pages, the most common kind of interactive site. So it is possible that she has two "copies" of her site, one with Good Decent Godfearing code, the other with the Supersecret Evil Goldi-Lox Killer code. So that if you go to libertypost.org, you get the Good Decent Godfearing version and if you go to libertypost.net, you get the Supersecrect Evil Goldi-Lox Killer version. Now, this whole notion of a good Goldi-server and an evil Goldi-server is somewhat daft. First, Goldi would have to be a lot more sophisticated than she is about servers and writing code. She doesn't do any of that stuff and hasn't even upgraded her older Pinguinite code (written by Neil and available for free) to the newer Pinguinite code that christine uses here which has more features, is more secure, etc. Beyond that, the idea of Goldi-two-servers is rather odd because the first principle of Being Evil is: Don't let anyone figure out that you really are evil. Now, I can go to any of the three known methods of reaching LibertyPost via libertypost.org or libertypost.net or 69.55.11.240 (among who knows how many other evil versions of LP there are), and the pages are the same, the most recent articles are the same, the most recent comments are the same. And again, I can sign in to any of them and they behave identically. Now, since everyone but you and a bunch of old cat ladies posting on Usenet or chatting on IRC already knows the above info, then what sense would it make to have the Goldi-two-servers thing? None whatsoever. What would be more interesting would be to have a single server with the two names pointed at it but monitor the access to it by the IP addresses of those you have banned from it. This way, you can be Evil to banned or disliked users but never look Evil to the Chosen People of LibertyPost (those who Goldi hasn't banned, this being 4um, I thought that was fun way to express it). And people on Goldi's ban list are always going to be assumed to be nursing a grudge anyway so no one will believe their accusations. So you might choose to be paranoid and think that Goldi is only running her Supersecret Evil Goldi-Code if you visit her server but she does show no signs of such code or admin sophistication and sneakiness. It really is just her chat board, I think. But you can believe or make up anything you like if you enjoy that more. But I see no reason to believe that Goldi or Christine are quite so powerful or obsessed over their chat boards as that would require. Now, me posting this much text to you, that might in and of itself seem Quite Evil to some folks despite my obvious benevolent intentions. But then, perhaps paranoid nihilism really is the safest policy and you have to assume that every website and every server and every person is out to get you and that they are also only figments of your own imagination. Of course, maybe Goldi is Christine and 4um/LP are just two of her servers. Maybe Goldi/Christine is an employee of FBI/NSA/ADL/SPLC and these sites are just honeypots, beginning to end. Let your imagination run wild. Or maybe Goldi and Christine are just two ladies who run chat forums, as they appear to be. TooConservative posted on 2009-11-22 8:06:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
TooConservative and I apparently agree on at least one point...
You owe me an apology. Until I get one from you, you're on my shit list. You and AKA Stone. And yukon. And Byteshredder. lol
Aww thanks! I was being sarcastic but I have had guys fear me and I never have quite figured out why.
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy."
I ignore him, bozoed for posting too many graphics. I don't like spam, tend to bozo repetitive graphics. I used to just block the graphics but finally decided it was easier just to bozo the GIFmongers.
Then you weren't watching.
Why can't you put me on your bozo list?
Why should I put you on my bozo list? Because you don't have the honor or integrity to admit when you're mistaken? Because you defiantly refuse to answer simple questions that would force you to back up your claims? Because you can't support your false accusations? Nah. None of those are good enough reasons. You'll stay off my bozo list and remain on my shit list until you retract your claims, admit you were wrong and apologize.
Dream on. I'm waiting to see if you are ever going to stop posting about yourself and actually contribute something meaningful to the thread. Admittedly, I'm not especially hopeful.
Yeah. You see, it's not me I'm posting about. It's me posting, yes. But I'm posting about you. Go back and read the posts. Then answer the questions or shut up. Stupid.
I have answered your questions.
What are two sites that I've been 'chased' off of? Where have I associated Ron Paul with 9/11 truth? Where did I lie about being banned?
Right here on this thread, as I demonstrated. Goldie banned you a week ago. Yet you pretend it didn't happen. As for the rest, I'm not going to spend my time dredging through websites, some of which I could care less about, to find your posts. Obviously, no matter what I posted, you would lie about that just as you're lying now about getting the boot from LP last week. Perhaps you should consider that you might not be a truthful person.
You're projecting. You have a comprehension problem. And your ability to discern truth from lies is impaired because... you're dishonest. Now post a link to where I lied about being banned or pretended I wasn't banned. Stupid.
You did it right on this thread and I posted the link and text from LP that showed where you got banned. And you're sitting here, lying about it and pretending it didn't happen. I suppose you wonder why people won't debate someone as dishonest as you.
Prove it.
Oh, the irony...
C'mon stupid, there's only 143 posts on this thread, how long could it take you?
And two-thirds of them are entirely off-topic and all about you and, surprise-surprise, by you. What a goofy attention whore you are, wudi. Don't you feel just a little persecuted when you realize that people are avoiding you, treating you with kid gloves to avoid your little "hot buttons", etc. You are, as I've pointed out, very "needy" and quite passive-aggressive about it.
Post a link to one post where I lied. Stupid. C'mon, you can do it.
I already did, right on this thread. You plainly and deliberately lied about not being banned from LP only a week ago. Notice how everyone disappeared afterwards? That was you losing the argument. You're like some little lying seven-year-old who doesn't realize yet that everyone is on to them.
Where?
IRONY
No. They're about you. How you've falsely accused me here on this thread several times and every time I called you on it you haven't been able to back it up. Not once. Take a look in the mirror, stupid. Name one of these 'people'. Yeah, okay. Now, start backing up your claims against me or stfu and stop posting to me, stupid.
Where? Aren't ya even gonna try? C'mon, look back through the thread, find the post(s) where I lied and repost them here. Then every one will know that you're right and I'm wrong. You can do it.
ROTFLOLAY at you dumbass!!!!!! I'm not happy until you're not happy!
Stfu and stay out of this or you're next, yukon.
Well I can see the disruptive influence that has taken hold on this thread. If there was any doubt as to the motivations of a few people, this thread alone clarifies things for me.
Better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not.
Tukon downloaded this..... Been practicing, I guess.
What exactly are these 'things' that the thread has clarified for you? What motivations, Tommy? What 'people'? Clarify, please.
If there's one thing I fucking hate, it's a liar.
I posted it here about fifty posts back, a post quoting Goldi's post banning you at LP and a link to it. It was in a bordered table, slightly gray in background so it stands out to show everyone how dishonest you are. This is why everyone on this thread knows you are such a shameless liar, even those who were trying to defend you as a co-Truther. Now they see you exposed and have disappeared. Now you just want to pretend it was never posted at all and go on blathering about how I need to work for you and go back and find the proof already on this thread yet again. I won't do it. I've already proved that you are a liar to the satisfaction of every person on this thread, none of whom are still willing to give you the benefit of the doubt since they have seen the evidence with their own eyes. I think you should quit digging, given the size of the hole you are in but I can continue this exchange indefinitely if you prefer that. Doesn't bother me a bit.
That you are filled with self-loathing comes as no great surprise to anyone here, I assure you.
Can you repost the post where I lied? Or will you 'indefinitely' refuse to do that?
Liar.
Or will you 'indefinitely' refuse to do that? I already posted it, as you well know. Right on this thread. That you refuse to acknowledge it and insist that I must post it a second time is just your attempt at distraction. You apparently believe that people are actually stupid enough to fall for your middle-school tactics. You may have the mind of a sixth-grader but the rest of us don't. You are more and more pathetic as this thread continues, your lies increasingly transparent as you try to distract others from your evident fundamental dishonesty and emotional neediness with this endless pile of repetitive posts and ad hominem. As I've said, I am content to allow you to continue to discredit yourself for some time, hundreds of posts if that is what it takes. And, again, your every post is yet another confirmation that everything I've said about you is true.
As I've said, I am content to allow you to continue to discredit yourself for some time, hundreds of posts if that is what it takes. And, again, your every post is yet another confirmation that everything I've said about you is true. You're projecting. Repost the post that I made where you say I lied. Go ahead, prove to all the 'people' how right you are.
Have you considered therapy?
Have you considered just admitting that I haven't lied to you and that I was only banned from one 'Conservative' forum, not 'a couple' and that it wasn't for associating Ron Paul with 9/11 truth, but for posting a picture of Byteshredder? Have you considered admitting that I never lied about being banned since most everyone on this forum could easily already knew that I was as it was posted here minutes after it happened and furthermore there's absolutely no evidence of me denying it and no reason for me to? Have you considered that I never thought Goldi was responsible for an 'evil server', but was simply questioning why there are two addresses because I didn't know why there were and although I had suspicions that you were mistaken about them being delusions? Have you considered that maybe you yourself need therapy?
And yet they all looked at the evidence I posted and the source link and promptly disappeared. This seems difficult for you to accept. You couldn't even differentiate between libertypost.net and liberty-post.net. That is only the beginning of the confusion you displayed on this thread, having demonstrated you had nothing to contribute and then since polluting it with your needy posts and turning it into The Wudi Thread. And yet, somehow it is all my fault to those in Wudiland.
Yeah. They abandoned me. Poor me. Good thing I got you here to keep me company. You and yukon. Right. Because I'm dumb and you're fooling me. It's just me and you, tukon. Going round and round on the spider/webcrawler thread. Me in 'wudiland' and you in tukonland. Are we having fun yet? Is that CIA manual of trickery and deception working for ya?
I have reread the thread. After some contemplation and further consideration, I think maybe what we have here is simply a misunderstanding. I somewhat regret the language I used towards you. Although there may have been some misinterpretation on both parts, there was clearly no need for me to use such profanity or insults towards you. So for that I apologize. You are clearly intelligent, educated and knowledgable. I appreciate that and your tenacity for defending your position. Let's put it to rest and have some peace then, okay?
Fine by me.
Internet geeks here! Who can determine how many web spiders/crawlers are on 4um??
[Apologies. Neil's 4um code won't let me post this spider code accurately. It's screwing my Sed command and turns the text red.]
#!/bin/sh
mkdir "$DIRNAME"
fi
/ s//http://$HOST1/p" lynxhtmlsource1 > lynxhtmlsource2
for URL in $(cat lynxhtmlsource2); do
ARTICLE="${URL:49:6}"
# echo "#$ARTICLE URL: $URL"
if [ ! -f "$DIRNAME/$ARTICLE" ]; then
$LYNX -source "$URL" > "4um/$ARTICLE"
echo "fetched $ARTICLE..."
let FETCHCOUNT+=1
fi
done
echo "$HOST: $FETCHCOUNT fetched"
else
echo "no new articles on $HOST"
fi
#2. To: TooConservative (#1)
No doubt, various federal agencies and people like ADL or SPLC use scripts like this to capture many forums and use grep and other search tools to scan each thread captured for relevant keywords to flag them for review by human beings.
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#3. To: TooConservative (#1)
I'm presenting this so that 4um folks can get some idea of how these agencies and busybodies operate. Geeks know this stuff but the average person has no idea how easy it is. People should know how easy it is to database their every remark since we no longer live in a free country.
#4. To: christine (#3)
#5. To: TooConservative (#4)
I could slowly download your entire database and reconstruct each poster's remarks.
#6. To: christine (#5)
can that be done on any forum?
#7. To: christine, TooConservative (#5)
(Edited)
can that be done on any forum?
Let me get this straight.
#8. To: Critter (#7)
#9. To: TooConservative (#6)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#10. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
Not only did the PC Avenger appear
Let me get this straight.
#11. To: Critter (#10)
#12. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
...the PC Avenger...
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#13. To: Esso (#12)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#14. To: X-15 (#0)
#15. To: TooConservative (#6)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#16. To: TwentyTwelve (#14)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#17. To: Esso (#12)
the PC Avenger
#18. To: X-15 (#15)
#19. To: X-15 (#0)
Who can determine how many web spiders/crawlers are on 4um??
#20. To: X-15 (#13)
(Edited)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#21. To: Critter (#7)
(Edited)
I was wondering how a certain poster appeared on a thread so quickly where the word heebs was used. I suspect a spider looking for certain keywords.
#22. To: TooConservative, christine, Pinguinite, all (#6)
(Edited)
whois.domaintools.com/liberty-post.net
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#23. To: All (#22)
(Edited)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#24. To: TooConservative, All (#23)
libertypost.net
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#25. To: wudidiz (#22)
#26. To: christine (#25)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#27. To: christine (#25)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#28. To: christine, All (#27)
Wiki article on Liberty-post.net
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#29. To: All (#28)
1 registrar has maintained records for this domain since 2008-04-04
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#30. To: TooConservative (#1)
No doubt, various federal agencies and people like ADL or SPLC use scripts like this to capture many forums and use grep and other search tools to scan each thread captured for relevant keywords to flag them for review by human beings.
#31. To: wudidiz (#22)
whois.domaintools.com/liberty-post.net
#32. To: Pinguinite, christine, X-15 (#30)
It only took 30 seconds to capture 68 full threads to my hard drive. I note that about ten threads are missing, did you remove some perhaps? Or maybe there's some little bug in my script; it wasn't like this code was highly important to me so I didn't go nuts over it. Sat Nov 21 05:29:23 CST 2009
fetched 108669... (this one is your sticky thread)
fetched 110723...
fetched 110722...
fetched 110721...
fetched 110720...
fetched 110719...
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freedom4um.com: 68 fetched
If I used a cron job to schedule this script to run regularly, say every hour or even every 12 hours, it would capture every thread posted at 4um. You'd have to revisit the thread, perhaps sniffing the headers to detect whether the thread had changed, in order to capture all the comments because those can come in days, months or even years later. You'd capture 99% of these chat forums' content if you just wait one month to capture a thread, parse it, and store it.
Sat Nov 21 05:34:29 CST 2009
no new articles on freedom4um.com
#33. To: TooConservative (#32)
#34. To: christine, Pinguinite (#32)
It only took 30 seconds to capture 68 full threads to my hard drive. I note that about ten threads are missing, did you remove some perhaps?
#35. To: TooConservative (#23)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#36. To: TooConservative (#32)
It only took 30 seconds to capture 68 full threads to my hard drive.
#37. To: TooConservative (#34)
Neil would not make such an elementary error.
#38. To: TooConservative, Pinguinite, christine, X-15 (#32)
As for the posters here at 4um, one should assume that FBI and other agencies may employ agentes provocateur in the classic style they used against the Klan and others.
#39. To: Original_Intent (#38)
If some invites, directly or indirectly, comments which could be incriminating, incitement to violence, or libelous I assume, provisionally pending further data, that I am dealing with a provocateur or shill of some kind.
#40. To: Pinguinite. all (#39)
I don't recall any so-called terrorist plots being busted that didn't involve an FBI agent being proactively involved in the mix somehow.
#41. To: Pinguinite (#39)
I don't recall any so-called terrorist plots being busted that didn't involve an FBI agent being proactively involved in the mix somehow.
#42. To: All (#23)
libertypost.net/
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#43. To: wudidiz (#42)
#44. To: TooConservative (#43)
She owns both domain names...
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#45. To: All (#43)
What is your problem anyway?
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#46. To: TooConservative (#43)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#47. To: wudidiz, christine, Pinguinite (#46)
Forgive me Maam for my ignorance or paranoia or stupidity or whatever my problem is, but isn't the fact that there are two different urls mean that there are two different websites? Regardless of how similar they look?
libertypost.net. 236 IN A 69.55.11.240
libertypost.org. 236 IN A 69.55.11.240
#48. To: Original_Intent (#38)
If some invites, directly or indirectly, comments which could be incriminating, incitement to violence, or libelous I assume, provisionally pending further data, that I am dealing with a provocateur or shill of some kind. I also assume the government and their filthy vermin traitorous minions know exactly who I am and where I live. So, they can go fuck themselves (pardon the French). Since I do not make personal threats against even politicians and figures whom I despise as long as they have to maintain a pretense that they are obeying the Constitution I'm safe. Once they try to dispense with it I head for the hills. ;-)
#49. To: Pinguinite (#37)
TC: Neil would not make such an elementary error.
(Jerry has just returned from Florida, and is putting away his bag. A worried George sits at the table.)
JERRY: (disbelief) So she wanted you to come up, but you left because you thought some guy might be calling you?!
(Jerry puts his bag in the bedroom and returns as George paces the floor.)
GEORGE: (animated) Some guy. Some guy? Neil! I have got to find out how he could get a girl like Danielle.
JERRY: (pointing out the obvious) George, you've got Danielle. Forget about Neil. You've out-Neiled him.
GEORGE: (surprised) So, I'm Neil? How did I do that?
JERRY: I don't know, but you better keep it up.
GEORGE: I'm gonna go meet Danielle. (grabs his coat) There's a new Neil in town! (triumphant laughter) Hahaha!
#50. To: TooConservative (#47)
(Edited)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#51. To: wudidiz (#50)
You started being rude to me by asking 'What is your problem anyway?' at post #43.
Now go fuck yourself, you stupid, ass-kissing cunt.
(Edited by wudidiz for grammatical errors.)
#52. To: TooConservative (#51)
You first started off with liberty-post.org and liberty-post.net (which are entirely different domain names from libertypost.org and libertypost.net since domain names can include only lower-case letters, numerals, hyphens).
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#53. To: TooConservative (#51)
Then you switched to complaining about libertypost.net, demanding attention and complaining that no one was posting about them. Despite the fact that the rest of us already knew what was up with those domains.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#54. To: TooConservative (#51)
A perfect example of why you tend to get banned from a lot of websites. What a martyr.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#55. To: TooConservative (#54)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#56. To: TooConservative, all (#47)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#57. To: All (#52)
No I didn't. Bullshitting moron.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#58. To: All (#57)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#59. To: wudidiz (#58)
You call that complaining and demanding attention?
#60. To: TooConservative (#59)
You call that complaining and demanding attention?
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#61. To: All (#60)
For your information:
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#62. To: wudidiz (#60)
#63. To: A K A Stone (#62)
Okay moron, you call this being nice?
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#64. To: A K A Stone (#62)
Also who are you to try and run people away from Christines site?
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#65. To: wudidiz (#63)
#66. To: wudidiz (#64)
What you're still doing here is a fucking mystery to me.
#67. To: A K A Stone, TooConservative, all (#65)
(from #47) Now, since everyone but you and a bunch of old cat ladies posting on Usenet or chatting on IRC already knows the above info, then what sense would it make to have the Goldi-two-servers thing? None whatsoever. What would be more interesting would be to have a single server with the two names pointed at it but monitor the access to it by the IP addresses of those you have banned from it. This way, you can be Evil to banned or disliked users but never look Evil to the Chosen People of LibertyPost (those who Goldi hasn't banned, this being 4um, I thought that was fun way to express it). And people on Goldi's ban list are always going to be assumed to be nursing a grudge anyway so no one will believe their accusations. So you might choose to be paranoid and think that Goldi is only running her Supersecret Evil Goldi-Code if you visit her server but she does show no signs of such code or admin sophistication and sneakiness. It really is just her chat board, I think.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#68. To: A K A Stone (#66)
I was here before you. I will be here after you. Ok asshole.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#69. To: All (#67)
www.google.ca/search?hl=e...ost.net&btnG=Search&meta=
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#70. To: wudidiz (#69)
TooConservative thought she was going to mock and ridicule wudidiz and instead TooConservative got a piece of my mind.
#71. To: A K A Stone (#65)
Oh boy he said snarky. That is so so bad. Look at what you said fool.
#72. To: TooConservative (#70)
You can have it back. I can see you have little to spare.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#73. To: TooConservative, *9-11* (#71)
Some of these Truthers...
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#74. To: All (#73)
But you can believe or make up anything you like if you enjoy that more. But I see no reason to believe that Goldi or Christine are quite so powerful or obsessed over their chat boards as that would require. Now, me posting this much text to you, that might in and of itself seem Quite Evil to some folks despite my obvious benevolent intentions. But then, perhaps paranoid nihilism really is the safest policy and you have to assume that every website and every server and every person is out to get you and that they are also only figments of your own imagination.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#75. To: TooConservative (#43)
Libertypost.com and libertypost.us are owned by the USPS and that isn't sinister either.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#76. To: TooConservative, wudidiz (#47)
Or maybe Goldi and Christine are just two ladies who run chat forums, as they appear to be.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#77. To: Lod, Original_Intent, Pinguinite. all (#40)
I don't recall any so-called terrorist plots being busted that didn't involve an FBI agent being proactively involved in the mix somehow.
Let me get this straight.
#78. To: Critter, All (#77)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#79. To: FormerLurker (#75)
Huh? Who would have known that LP is owned by the Post Office. So there is no real Goldi, it's some person sitting in a post office somewhere running the show. Well that explains why "Goldi" goes "postal" at times I guess.
What sort of detective work did you do to arrive at that conclusion?
#80. To: wudidiz (#73)
What are you? A liar?
#81. To: wudidiz (#72)
No. It's yours now. For the rest of your life. As a reminder of what you'll get for treating me the way you did and still are.
There's lots more where that came from. Now go away.
#82. To: TooConservative (#79)
USPS owns libertypost.us and libertypost.com. I can't figure out why but I assume it is historical.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#83. To: TooConservative (#80)
What are you? A liar?
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#84. To: TooConservative (#81)
LOL.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#85. To: TooConservative (#71)
Kind of like a crack baby that screams for attention and then screams when anyone so much as looks them in the eye.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#86. To: FormerLurker (#85)
Speaking from personal experience?
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#87. To: wudidiz, TooConservative (#86)
Good luck getting a straight answer out of the piece of work calling itself TooConservative.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#88. To: FormerLurker (#87)
(Edited)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#89. To: wudidiz, FormerLurker (#88)
#90. To: TooConservative (#89)
do you guys have anything to actually contribute to the topic?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#91. To: FormerLurker (#90)
#92. To: TooConservative, FormerLurker (#89)
delusional notions
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#93. To: TooConservative (#91)
Because I saw wudi making enemies for the RP movement on other sites because he had to carry the Truther banner and try to associate RP with it, despite the fact that RP himself only favored fuller investigations of 9/11, not any kind of endorsement of MIHOP or LIHOP Trutherism.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#94. To: wudidiz, FormerLurker (#92)
Got a link for that?
783. To: wudidiz (#678)
#95. To: TooConservative (#94)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#96. To: TooConservative, wudidiz, Former Lurker (#91)
(Edited)
BTW, I do not intend to take this thread on an excursion into Trutherism. I am quite familiar with how bitter the adherents are for those who do not find the cut-and-paste Alex Jones articles quite so compelling. I mention it only because wudi got chased off a couple of conservative forums with Truth threads
#97. To: TooConservative (#94)
Trying to be a little disingenuous for an audience....
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#98. To: wudidiz (#95)
Like I say, you're just one of those educated, knowledgeable people that's actually quite stupid.
#99. To: TooConservative, wudidiz (#94)
(Edited)
twoofer
#100. To: yukon (#99)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#101. To: TooConservative (#98)
Like I say, you're just one of those educated, knowledgeable people that's actually quite stupid.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#102. To: mininggold, A K A Stone (#96)
Yet you already have confided in Stone .....one of the bigger flakes in the universe or haven't you visited his website lately?.
...and I doubt Wudidiz had one iota of influence on him losing when he had enemies such as OReilly, Beck and the GOP establishment to isolate and diss him, and deny him media coverage. Really.... one little poster on a website had such an influence? You are usually better than that.
#103. To: All (#101)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#104. To: TooConservative, mininggold (#102)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#105. To: All (#104)
Internet geeks here! Who can determine how many web spiders/crawlers are on 4um??
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#106. To: TooConservative (#102)
It was a burned-bridge strategy. Posters like that made it virtually impossible to advocate steadily from Ron Paul. We still get smeared on RP threads on various forums simply because of this.
#107. To: wudidiz (#104)
So to try and cover up your bullshit and divert from the questions you're being asked, you're attempting to blame me for Ron Paul not becoming the President?
#108. To: mininggold, TooConservative (#106)
We still get smeared on RP threads on various forums simply because of this.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#109. To: TooConservative (#107)
Maybe you just don't read adequately or lack the capability of reading more than a few sentences at once. That has become quite common with the products of the public skrools over the last few decades, those whose educations were the most neglected are the most "needy" people on the web.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#110. To: wudidiz (#109)
#111. To: wudidiz (#108)
Yeah. It's because of posters like me that you get smeared on various forums for advocating Ron Paul.
#112. To: yukon (#99)
#113. To: wudidiz (#100)
Shut up, yukon.
#114. To: TooConservative (#110)
I'm still waiting for you to make your first on-topic post on this thread (that wasn't just some nonsense of the supposedly sinister libertypost.net or your confusion about liberty-post.net as opposed to libertypost.net).
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#115. To: TooConservative (#111)
Yeah. It's because of posters like me that you get smeared on various forums for advocating Ron Paul.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#116. To: farmfriend, wudidiz (#113)
#117. To: yukon (#99)
ROTFLOL!!!!! Wudoofus, the pansy-ass, canuckistani displaying his abject stupidity once again!
#118. To: wudidiz (#114)
Like I say, answer my questions or stop posting to me.
#119. To: TooConservative (#79)
USPS owns libertypost.us and libertypost.com. I can't figure out why but I assume it is historical.
#120. To: TooConservative, wudidiz (#94)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#121. To: TooConservative, wudidiz (#91)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#122. To: mel_living, wudidiz (#116)
I think you two scared Yukon off... ;-)
#123. To: TooConservative (#118)
I answered all your on-topic posts, incoherent and uninformed as they were. I answered at some length and in detail.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#124. To: FormerLurker, TooConservative (#121)
(Edited)
So I really find it hard to believe you have a problem with wudidiz, where I've never seen you say boo to the idiot who WAS spamming LP with anti RP propaganda, and given free reign to do so.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#125. To: farmfriend (#122)
#126. To: TooConservative (#91)
Because I saw wudi making enemies for the RP movement on other sites because he had to carry the Truther banner and try to associate RP with it, despite the fact that RP himself only favored fuller investigations of 9/11, not any kind of endorsement of MIHOP or LIHOP Trutherism.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#127. To: All (#126)
Forgive me Maam for my ignorance or paranoia or stupidity or whatever my problem is, but isn't the fact that there are two different urls mean that there are two different websites? Regardless of how similar they look?
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#128. To: FormerLurker, All (#127)
...this whole notion of a good Goldi-server and an evil Goldi-server is somewhat daft...
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#129. To: TooConservative (#128)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#130. To: mel_living (#125)
I can't understand anyone being afraid of you. You're a sweetheart!
#131. To: FormerLurker (#120)
do you support ByteShredder's constant barrage of ugly personal attacks against anyone who doesn't toe the Goldi-Lox/Israeli/NWO line?
#132. To: FormerLurker (#121)
So I really find it hard to believe you have a problem with wudidiz, where I've never seen you say boo to the idiot who WAS spamming LP with anti RP propaganda, and given free reign to do so.
#133. To: wudidiz (#129)
Until I get one from you, you're on my shit list.
#134. To: TooConservative (#133)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#135. To: wudidiz (#134)
#136. To: TooConservative (#135)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#137. To: wudidiz (#136)
#138. To: TooConservative (#137)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#139. To: wudidiz (#138)
Where did I lie about being banned?
#140. To: TooConservative (#139)
Perhaps you should consider that you might not be a truthful person.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#141. To: wudidiz (#140)
#142. To: TooConservative (#141)
And you're sitting here, lying about it and pretending it didn't happen.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#143. To: All (#141)
I suppose you wonder why people won't debate someone as dishonest as you.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#144. To: TooConservative (#142)
Prove it.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#145. To: wudidiz (#144)
#146. To: TooConservative (#145)
You did it right on this thread and I posted the link and text from LP that showed where you got banned.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#147. To: wudidiz (#146)
#148. To: TooConservative (#147)
I already did, right on this thread.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#149. To: TooConservative (#147)
You're like some little lying seven-year-old who doesn't realize yet that everyone is on to them.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#150. To: TooConservative (#145)
And two-thirds of them are entirely off-topic and all about you and, surprise-surprise, by you.
What a goofy attention whore you are, wudi.
Don't you feel just a little persecuted when you realize that people are avoiding you, treating you with kid gloves to avoid your little "hot buttons", etc.
You are, as I've pointed out, very "needy" and quite passive-aggressive about it.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#151. To: TooConservative (#148)
(Edited)
I already did, right on this thread.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#152. To: wudidiz, TooConservative (#145)
What a goofy attention whore you are, wudi.
#153. To: yukon (#152)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#154. To: X-15 (#0)
#155. To: All (#153)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#156. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#154)
Well I can see the disruptive influence that has taken hold on this thread. If there was any doubt as to the motivations of a few people, this thread alone clarifies things for me.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#157. To: All (#156)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#158. To: All (#157)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#159. To: wudidiz, yukon (#148)
Where?
#160. To: wudidiz (#158)
If there's one thing I fucking hate, it's a liar.
#161. To: TooConservative (#159)
I think you should quit digging, given the size of the hole you are in but I can continue this exchange indefinitely if you prefer that. Doesn't bother me a bit.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#162. To: TooConservative (#160)
That you are filled with self-loathing comes as no great surprise to anyone here, I assure you.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#163. To: wudidiz (#161)
Can you repost the post where I lied?
#164. To: TooConservative (#163)
You may have the mind of a sixth-grader but the rest of us don't. You are more and more pathetic as this thread continues, your lies increasingly transparent as you try to distract others from your evident fundamental dishonesty and emotional neediness with this endless pile of repetitive posts and ad hominem.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#165. To: wudidiz (#164)
#166. To: TooConservative (#165)
Have you considered therapy?
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#167. To: wudidiz (#166)
Have you considered admitting that I never lied about being banned since most everyone on this forum could easily already knew that I was as it was posted here minutes after it happened and furthermore there's absolutely no evidence of me denying it and no reason for me to?
Have you considered that I never thought Goldi was responsible for an 'evil server', but was simply questioning why there are two addresses because I didn't know why there were and although I had suspicions that you were mistaken about them being delusions?
#168. To: TooConservative (#167)
And yet they all looked at the evidence I posted and the source link and promptly disappeared. This seems difficult for you to accept.
You couldn't even differentiate between libertypost.net and liberty-post.net. That is only the beginning of the confusion you displayed on this thread, having demonstrated you had nothing to contribute and then since polluting it with your needy posts and turning it into The Wudi Thread. And yet, somehow it is all my fault to those in Wudiland.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#169. To: TooConservative (#167)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#170. To: wudidiz (#169)
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