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Paging Eric Stratton...... Eric are you on site? Step forward and account for this response to a Mr. Blutarsky over at LP. Please step forward for your mandatory 4um questioning on this 'pulled commentary' charge as soon as possible. Thank you for your cooperation. : ) 3. To: Blutarsky, LP MGMT Warning (#1) If you can't say something nice...abstain. I'm SICK AND TIRED of your constant comments that do NOTHING positive. Find a candidate of your own to promote...and don't make any further comments of any kind on Palin. PERIOD. ---- I'm thinking that you are here ONLY to disrupt threads about Palin...as you are usually the first to post on them...and it's always NEGATIVE. So, based on your Palin-performance history...if you can't abstain as noted above, I'll just close your account. I'm not convinced you're legit. You're a one note/one tune player. Goldi-Lox posted on 2009-11-22 20:24:28 ET Reply Trace
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Eric, did you forget your commandments? Thou shalt not question Sarah Palin.
Thou shalt not question Sarah Palin. LOL All Sarah's supporters now have is banning and name calling. On O'Reilley Sarah said she wanted the US to be the supreme superpower of the world and to ACT like it. Sent shivers through me but not for the same reason it did for Goldi or BTS I'm sure.
Please, feel free to delete my account! This place has turned into FreeRepublic Lite and Palinpost.org! Good luck with it! Blutarsky posted on 2009-11-22 20:41:17 ET ============================================================= I would have expected people with mean/nasty/evil streaks like that to be in institutes for the mentally insane, in prisons for the criminally insane, or locked up as sociopaths having destroyed everyone in their families. It's hard to realize that they are actually living among us...passing themselves off as "normal"...and that scares the hell out of me. How many more out there are like that??? Goldi-Lox posted on 2009-11-22 22:11:51 ET Oh dear! And I thought that Goldi's comparing Sarah to Lincoln, was as bad as it could get. Just what did bluto say [:Comment Pulled: ]? Well whatever it was, it wasn't "nice" enough. Tsk, tsk! Naughty.
13. To: All (#12) I'm just so sick of them...I might just boot all their asses off LP. NOTHING will ever work to get them to normalize and get along with others here. I'm actually starting to understand how fed up with them FR got to be... and I'm getting to that frame of mind. Goldi-Lox posted on 2009-11-22 22:23:19 ET Reply Trace seems sally is turning rimjob tonight.
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And now Goldi thinks that just having a mean/nasty/evil streak is now grounds for being committed. She evidently doesn't realize that most sociopaths appear charming and conniving. Oh dear, oh dear. Such a lovely conservative example is she. AND the big question is.... how did Blutarsky, exhibiting these particular attributes, stay under her "astute" radar for so long?
Of course, I agree with that analysis. An echo chamber in the making for a very long time, finally achieved that illusive echo chamber status. Do tell, inquiring minds want to know, what exactly did you say to get your comment pulled. That's the comedy must know on the street here at 4um. : )
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You mean, nasty, evil poster you. lol How did you trick one of the self described smartest women in the world for so long?
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lol....really? How many of these asses are left?
Goldi called me a leech when I asked Palo Verde (who did not reply) for a summary of Palin's views on various issues. I knew then she was obsessed with Palin in a very unhealthy way. Sad, sad, sad.
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He's a shape shifter from the planet Libertyordeath.
I still have my original account at FR. I've never had so much as a reprimand! Even when I posted twice that George W should be impeached during his last amnnesty effort. Wasn't Goldi originally banned from there?
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when ever I talk to people face to face and libertypost is mentioned I tend to refer to it as the short bus zone, the place is packed with bimbos out to end woman's suffrage.
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at the shop, church; doesn't everyone?
"Seriously, they really ought to rename the place palinpost.org" I really doubt that it is about Palin. I think it's about Israel.
I'm not convinced you're legit. You're a one note/one tune player. Goldi-Lox posted on 2009-11-22 20:24:28 ET Reply Trace Wow, so because Eric didn't issue the required number of exaltations and benedictions for Queen elect Sarah, he got the boot? Eric, I guess you needed to write an essay on why you love Sarah, and why she should be the next Queen (er, president). Then Goldi might have let you stay longer... LOL
I think the both of them have been on the same team for awhile now...
Yep, there comes a time when jumping in the sand box over there just doesn't sound like all that much fun. Every one of her "chosen" posters has rolled out the barrage of baiting insults to which I didn't stoop to their idiocy, merely drove them nuts by not letting it get under my skin, turning their silly commentary back on them. And for what? Because I dared take a stance in opposition to their position on an issue. That gets old rather quick. They don't really want to debate. They want an echo chamber.
That started sometime back. FormerLurker and a couple of other intelligent posters got "erased" and then when Goldi-Schmuck started the anti-Ron Paul edict forbidding articles about Ron Paul (he didn't suck up to the Israel Lobby) TwentyTwelve, myself, and a couple others would not back down in the face of her hypocrisy and so rather than address the issues she eliminated the inconvenience of having posters who would not refrain from calling her hypocrisy what it was - hypocrisy. Congratulations. You've graduated.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Thou shalt not make jokes about Saint Sarah. Ron Paul. Yes. Saint Sarah. No. You can selectively play one tune on LP. : )
Goldi is sick and tired, but not because of her stupid forum, that's her natural state.
God is always good!
You've graduated. What OI said.
Exactly. It is because St. Sarah is a Fundy Israel Worshipper i.e., a useful idiot (and I say that despite being related to her). For Silly Sally the Skank of Skanks it is all about Israel. She would betray this country in a heartbeat for Israhell.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
If she means telling Israel to get the heck out of the Gaza strip and West bank then I am all for it. Because if we are the only super power then little Israel should do as we say or else, right?
God is always good!
I see Goldi is talking about herself again. I suspect she has been locked up before. She is as nutty as they come.
God is always good!
Eric.... she hasn't had a period for at least five years probably ten.
Somebody with more time on his hands than I have can post her latest comments on alexa...
If she had meant or insinuated that O'Reilley would have been all over her. He's not about to let that discussion happen without a fight.
Link Sally has always been phony claiming to support free speech. She only does to the extent it does not threaten her core beliefs. Look at the above thread where Doggy Doo and pukon throw out vulgar one comment after another about prison rape and feces, which are totally ignored, and then pulls satadru's comments eventually giving him a two week suspension for "potty mouth." That's jooish logic at work for you.
Whenever Palin talks, her screechy voice reminds me of nails being scratched on a chalkboard. However the fact that her supporters can only find female that uneducated and ignorant to worship tells me they will never get anywhere and to that extent it's encouraging and amusing.
Was that at the same time that Travis McGee was banned for not showing proper reverence to Tony? I can find only one post left of yours and it's from 2001.
I believe Travis McGee was banned for being too strident about Mexican illegals.
I feel sorry for the next newby poster who says something not quite kosher at LP about Palin, because it will be banned as your retread. lol
He was in a couple of dustups with Tony too. I forget the incidentals. All those posts are missing. There are a few Tony Snows left ....just enough to let the world know that he hosted threads from the site.
Travis McGee was banned? I thought he simply left because he had enough of the sand box shinanigans at LP. I know he left for quite some time because he was writing a book that he published. Then on occasion I'd see a post by him.
Travis was banned for sure. Maybe he got reinstated later but after he was banned he started posting extensively on El Pee.
You mean the real Tony Snow posted on FR?
Not from LP (that I know of) but from FR for awhile.
My eyes are already crossing. Thanks for finding those posts, I'm saving them for reading tomorrow.
Yes and all of his posts were deleted when he became white house press secretary. Interesting that his posts were deleted before the announcement.
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy."
I thought that you meant he had been banned from LP. I've never been to that Freeper site.
He never got banned from El Pee, although these days, maybe he would too. He stopped posting there because he wanted to work on a new potboiler, was relocating to the East Coast, and expressed a couple times that it didn't make much sense spending time on the web hurling insults back and forth about Middle- East related topics.
www.alexa.com/siteinfo/libertypost.org
Ain't missing much.
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy."
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Part of the method of the madness of the site is to have someone attack you so you will make remarks that can be used against you for banning purposes. Just one more indication the place is not about free speech.
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How did Israel ass kisser and civilian Palin get to do a book signing on an American military base? I think I answered myself. Nevermind.
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
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Oh... don't know what to make of it. Well, there are some Americans who feel that Israel and Zionists may have a little too much influence over our federal government, culture and society. A few of these Americans even go as far as saying that Israeli interests are being put ahead of that of America and Americans. It is interesting. Perhaps you should study up on the issue. Start with my tagline.
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
I can find only one post left of yours and it's from 2001. McGee was great, but he started to vanish when I showed up. No relation I'm sure, : D, as we got along great. I have no idea on the older posts. McGee was only on LP until he was able to worm his way back on to FR. And worm his way back on is exactly what he did. Then he dumped LP like a bad habit, only showing up to post once in a blue moon. I used to have a lot of respect for him, but he's rabidly pro-war and pro-torture and as far as I'm concerned anyone still allowed to post on FR is nothing but a liberal Republicrat, regardless of the supposed "pro-liberty" books he writes. Personally I have no use for him and I'm sure the feeling is mutual. Let him continue to suck the ass of FR, the Washington establishment and the MIC. Maybe sooner or later he'll get tired of the taste of feces in his mouth.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
The "retread" thing was over at FR. Did you notice that Moldi-Box and White Sands are accusing everyone that doesn't toe the line as being members of the Clown Posse? LOL! How convenient. First you make the claim that you are going to ban anyone determined to be a CP member. Then, you label everyone whose views are different than yours as members of CP and ban them! LOL! All the while playing the victim.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
You didn't help keep alive a 2500+ post protest thread either. When Goldi ejaculated her edict on not posting articles concerning Ron Paul TwentyTwelve, Neil, myself, and a couple others would not back down on the issue and kept the thread alive for over 2500 posts with no intention of letting the issue die. So, rather than address the issue, which was and still is valid, she banned the people who would not back down. That was a wake up call for a lot of posters and it was at that point that LP, which had been rising in the Alexa rankings, began its long decline back to a backwater hatefest. Which I am sure pleases Goldi's controllers immensely. Too many of us were also raising a lot of data on 911 and Israeli human rights abusess/war crimes. The same schtick was used against the Ron Paul supporters - its just a variation on a theme. Truth is an irrelevancy, other than its inconvenience, to an agenda poster. One of the things you have to understand about LP is that it has a very strong Israel Uber Alles bias. Palestinians are all subhuman and Israel is always right and morality be damned. It always leaned that way but became more so after Neil left. Some of the anger you see on 4um is not directed against Jews is not as a people per se but anger over the actions of the Zionists both in Israel and their actions to subvert our government for their ends - along with resentment directed at the rabid pro-Israel contingent on the web (well known for their poor manners and hateful tactics). LP is heavily infested with Israbots who, despite whatever cover they use, are single issue posters whose primary focus is as "Hasbara" for Israel. Some of the others work for other groups/agencies and I have not really kept track of it. Goldi, a converted Jew, is a rabid Zionist and because she is a convert, like many converts to another religion, is to be the most Jewish of the Jewish. I had a couple of run-ins with her on it and stuffed, more or less politely, the Zionist agitprop up her .... However, as a true believer the truth of matters has little bearing or impact on her mindset and she was simply angry at being confronted with the truth. Sarah Palin is a Christian Zionist and so of course Goldi, and her favored Israbots, love her, but not because she be good for the U.S. but good for Israel. Consider it a welcome. ;-)
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
I used to have zero opinion about Jews, Israel, Christian Zionists, etc. until I began posting on LP. Over the years the words of Goldi, Magician, Jizz Fan/whatever her other names were, Marg, and many other Israeli-firsters changed my opinion from neutral to negative. I can guarantee that if they changed my opinion of them then they damn well changed the opinions of others. They are their own worst enemies. Just yesterday Magician pretty much came right out and said that the U.S.S. Liberty deserved what it got because they were spying on Israel and sending the information to Egypt. He was actually defending Israel. Yet not one of the supposed uber patriots on LP said a damned thing to him about it, not even Mad Dog, who supposedly served in the U.S. Navy. Yet if one makes the claim that 9/11 was blow back from 50+ years of bad foreign policy you are labeled a terrorist sympathizer by these same uber patriots.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
Magician has made this statement many, many, many times. He likes to quote a book that drolls on and on about how American has been bad to po' lil' Israel. It's complete FICTION, but Mag thinks it's the gospel. Mad Dog called me an anti-semite for defending those who died during the USS Liberty attack. He called me every name in the book for calling and act of war an act of war. When I called MD a traitor for pissing on those who died in that attack, he really got pissed. : )
Their own worst enemies indeed. Cultural arrogance and self inflated superiority complexes. Unfortunately the general public doesn't get that picture because the Zionists control the media and the message. I was rabidly pro-Israel at one point and for much of my life. Then I got confronted with contradictory data that I could not refute. Then followed resentment over having been lied to followed by my current view which is that they are in fact their own worst enemies creating through their behavior and attitudes most of the "hate" (actually more like resentment and dislike - few people really "hate" as hate is a very self destructive and low toned existence) they whine about. Magician is a rabid Zionist and Israel apologist. There is nothing Israel could do whether war crimes, human rights abuses, land theft, etc., ... that Magician would not defend. I suspect posting is his job. This all ties back to the two rules the rabid Israeli posters operate on. "An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Mad Dog called me an anti-semite for defending those who died during the USS Liberty attack. He called me every name in the book for calling and act of war an act of war. When I called MD a traitor for pissing on those who died in that attack, he really got pissed. : ) Magician got so mad at me for burning his Strawman Arguments and posting verified data proving him wrong that he put me on bozo. I was so proud. ;-)
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Mad Dog is likely a short, skinny and balding little man married to a 300 pound woman who has been lording over him for the past thirty plus years. I laugh every time I read one of his tirades. He takes out all of his life's frustrations on the internet because he doesn't have the balls to do it face to face. LOL!
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
Which would be fine if he wouldn't at the same time try to present himself as an uber patriot.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
I've seen others, like TakeNoPrisoners, claim that the members of the U.S.S. Liberty themselves were liars making up stories because they were anti-Semites. This is how neocons support the troops.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
lol......he had me on bozo for a spell too. He didn't like my calling BS to his book of fictions over and over again. : )
I went to LP mainly because he was posting there and was critical of Bush and most of his policies, but when he kissed JRs butt and was reinstated I lost all respect for him too. I have found that some people and many animals learn to eat feces with relish.
I too have presented his mommy complex issues as reasoning for his rants that are often against women who disagree with him.......like me. : ) He finally gave up on tracking me down to throw his tantrums because I didn't bite on any of his attempts to put me into an emotional tizzy over his silly words. I started pinging one and all to his c*ntathon. Soon, he gave up and began calling me "friend" and commenting in a kind manner to my posts.
Well he was critical of most of Bush's policies anyway. He's always been pro-war. However, you were not allowed to be a vocal opponent of Bush's policies on FR when he was reinstated, so he kept his mouth shut like a good little rimnjob crony. I learned he was pro-torture several months back on one of his few visits to LP after he was reinstated. I have found that some people and many animals learn to eat feces with relish. Well I don't know if he likes his feces with Relish, but he sure seems to eat it with relish.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
He finally gave up on tracking me down to throw his tantrums because I didn't bite on any of his attempts to put me into an emotional tizzy over his silly words. I started pinging one and all to his c*ntathon. Soon, he gave up and began calling me "friend" and commenting in a kind manner to my posts. He is good comic relief. I get even more satisfaction knowing that he reads this forum and that his head is likely to explode after reading the comments on this thread. LOL!
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
I think Mad Dog SERVED the US Navy as it seemed to know a few inside details about the Vallejo scuzzy side.
Which would be fine if he wouldn't at the same time try to present himself as an uber patriot. That is a standard, dishonest, Hasbara tactic - which they are taught. To frame issues as promoting U.S. interests when they are actually Israeli interests. It is the same sick refrain of "what is good for Israel is good for America" which is bullshit. Israel and its rabid supporters first, foremost, and ALWAYS look out for Israel's in their calculations. Any pretense to the contrary is just that - pretense i.e., lies.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
lol......he had me on bozo for a spell too. He didn't like my calling BS to his book of fictions over and over again. : ) When I confronted both Magician and Goldi-Schmuck with multiple evidences (including a review by an Israeli Historian) that Joan Peters Propaganda book "Since Time Immemorial" was false, that there was plenty of evidence to criticize her dishonest "scholarship" etc., ... both refused to respond further on the thread. I even re-pinged Goldi-Schmuck to it several times and she flat refused to respond. I think that demonstrates the mindset nicely. They would rather believe justifying lies than acknowledge the truth.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
I'm in the Travis flight path and when I mentioned the huge increase in Travis air traffic one day he called me a traitor and a divulger of secrets to the enemy. I imagine him to be a Depends wearing, drooling, demented resident of some rest home. lol
Reading LP is like listening to a segment of my family when they get together. I call it McNarcissism.
I attended 5th-7th grade at Travis AFB. We left there in December of 78. It was a great place to live. TakeNoPrisoners is a moron.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
It's all built up now and almost spreads to Vacaville and south to where Highway 12 hits 80. There is now a Suisun City made up of mainly suburban sprawl on the southeastside along side 12, which adjoins Travis AFB. Whites are now in the minority.
lol....that's a great term, describes the drama perfectly. : )
2. In the event of discovering Israel is in the wrong refer to rule "1". lolol
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
It sounds like it's changed a lot. There used to be almost nothing outside of the gate. Although the 7th grade school I attended was a Vacaville school right on the other side of the fence. I can't remember the name of it though.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
CP must be like Mexican swine flu, all of sudden it hits you and you're a gonner. Symptoms are, you begin to wonder if McInsane's running mate could be a NWO shill. I'm supprised that someone of Goldi's intellegence, hasn't invented a vaccine by now that stops CP in its tracks, and turns you into a neo-con. Well I'm off now to post my mandatory daily Palin worship thread. Any sort of drivel should do, as long it's pro globalist and devoid of substance.
Yes, that is surprising as she is a self-proclaimed genius. Surely she could put a stop to this scourge if she really wanted to. Any sort of drivel should do, as long it's pro globalist and devoid of substance. Throw in a "praise the Lord" for me. LOL!
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
lol.....and she's a psychic as well. She was just telling of how she knew somebody was going to die on the day JFK was shot (without noting that MANY people died that day and every day). How is it that one with sharp as a marble phsychic abilities could take so long to figure out the dastardly plans of Mr. Blutarsky?
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Interest groups such as the Southern Poverty Law Center, the ADL, AIPAC, JINSA, and others. PR Agencies routinely advertise Web Forum services where the PR Agency will have their 'bots post for their client and attack opponents. This even happens on audiophile websites where someone will come in and boost their client's gear while making negative comments about their competitors. Another source is Government Agencies such as the Feral Bureau of Instigation, CIA, CENTCOM, etc., who will detail people to the job. According to one article I read a couple of years ago the numbers of these types of posters was estimated minimally at 40,000 world wide and is probably higher than that.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
It is not just that they won't listen - they won't look, they won't analyze, and they will not consider changing their mind regardless of the facts. Neo-Barbarians.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
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I am out of date on LP since, even under my retread login, I have not visited it much in the last year and a half since my banning. Just once in a while to rattle their cage. Certainly some of the Israbots are part of an organized activity. Whether paid or volunteer I really couldn't say for sure. I just identify them by their standard characteristics. A really good reference here for spotting them: Included are the: "8 Traits of The Disinformationalist: What to Look For" I am sure there are some here as well, but the keep a low profile as they would be shown the door very very quickly.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
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Yes, it is not a short read, but is good data to have.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation Note: The first rule and last five (or six, depending on situation) rules are generally not directly within the ability of the traditional disinfo artist to apply. These rules are generally used more directly by those at the leadership, key players, or planning level of the criminal conspiracy or conspiracy to cover up. 1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don't discuss it -- especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it's not reported, it didn't happen, and you never have to deal with the issues. 2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the 'How dare you!' gambit. 3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method which works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such 'arguable rumors'. If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a 'wild rumor' from a 'bunch of kids on the Internet' which can have no basis in fact. 4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues. 4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues. 6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism reasoning -- simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent's viewpoint. 7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could be taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive. 8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough 'jargon' and 'minutia' to illustrate you are 'one who knows', and simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources. 9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect. 10. Associate opponent charges with old news. A derivative of the straw man -- usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with - a kind of investment for the future should the matter not be so easily contained.) Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually then be associated with the original charge and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues -- so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the original source. 11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions. Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the 'high road' and 'confess' with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made -- but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities which, 'just isn't so.' Others can reinforce this on your behalf, later, and even publicly 'call for an end to the nonsense' because you have already 'done the right thing.' Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect for 'coming clean' and 'owning up' to your mistakes without addressing more serious issues. 12. Enigmas have no solution. Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to loose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues. 13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any actual material fact. 14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with issues qualifying for rule 10. 15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place. 16. Vanish evidence and witnesses. If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won't have to address the issue. 17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues. 18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.' 19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance. 20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations -- as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications. 21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor, or other empowered investigative body. Subvert the (process) to your benefit and effectively neutralize all sensitive issues without open discussion. Once convened, the evidence and testimony are required to be secret when properly handled. For instance, if you own the prosecuting attorney, it can insure a Grand Jury hears no useful evidence and that the evidence is sealed an unavailable to subsequent investigators. Once a favorable verdict is achieved, the matter can be considered officially closed. Usually, this technique is applied to find the guilty innocent, but it can also be used to obtain charges when seeking to frame a victim. 22. Manufacture a new truth. Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which concludes favorably. In this way, if you must actually address issues, you can do so authoritatively. 23. Create bigger distractions. If the above does not seem to be working to distract from sensitive issues, or to prevent unwanted media coverage of unstoppable events such as trials, create bigger news stories (or treat them as such) to distract the multitudes. 24. Silence critics. If the above methods do not prevail, consider removing opponents from circulation by some definitive solution so that the need to address issues is removed entirely. This can be by their death, arrest and detention, blackmail or destruction of their character by release of blackmail information, or merely by destroying them financially, emotionally, or severely damaging their health. 25. Vanish. If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen.
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If you think about it, it is a microcosm of how the entire world is. It's also why idiotic thought often prevails, because there are enough idiots to back it. I'm with you all the way there on that. I've had the exact same idea and have discussed it before. The question is, I suppose, whether the person realizes they're doing it or not. That is, if it's intentional or if they're getting paid or benefit in some way even if it's to perpetuate their own life of lies or just getting a kick out of being defiantly dishonest. One can only speculate most of the time I guess.
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Just plz take out 10 or 20 of them with you !!
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don't you ever disparage morons like that again.
Wow- I am more than a little confused by Goldi's remarks to you. I believed that she was serious about cleaning the place up- but she lets war stay.. and everything out of his mouth is a nasty, illogical personal attack. She lets people make threats against others- and looks the other way. There are posters there who are obvious trolls and stalkers- and people whose every post is nonsense, and she seems to be encouraging those people and the way they use LP to attack other posters--- over and over and over again. She lets people get away with all manner of crazy things- and she THEN bans you just like that?? What is she cleaning up?? I am confused. Well, it is her site- her rules, and not a place that I want to visit anymore. Goodbye LP. Sorry this happened to you Eric. Considering Goldi is the only mod there- and she has allowed people to do the most bizarre things at LP~ I find her comments were disrespectful toward you, and in poor taste.
Judging by the traffic on the mainstream political sites, I have no doubt that there are more than 40K people doing nothing but shaping consensus through lies and on screen antics. When Goldi decided to insinuate something about me that wasn't even remotely true, I took her idiocy to task, and when she wouldn't apologize, I bailed. I had to ask myself why would she do that? Why would she in a round about way insinuate that I would shoot up a shopping mall? Then it occurred to me. She, like so many others make their living doing nothing but running websites dedicated to shaping opinion, and consensus of the masses. It's why I have become incredibly, and virulently hateful of that site, and what it represents. Much like Frei Republik, and various other lie by the minute websites out there discussing politics, it is tainted with paid shills. I can name at least a dozen people I suspect are paid to be there, and the quickest way to see who is paid to do what they do, is comment on certain hot button issues. Anything Immigration related, you have the same bunch of illegal alien supporters posting. Anything Israel related, you have the same bunch of Pro-Israel idiots posting. Anything 9-11 related, the same. Iran, Iraq, Clintons, Environmentalism, religion, you have the same people, posting time and time again, and the funny thing, is that you can actually see what time their shift ends, and begins, and when they go to lunch if you monitor LP, and FR.
Better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not.
i've deduced the same. so many times, i've read comments saying it's just the internet, but the internet is comprised of real people. i understand that many behave differently when they're behind a screen and anonymous than they would in person and face to face, but that makes me think that's when the real person is being revealed.
There are posters there who are obvious trolls and stalkers- and people whose every post is nonsense, and she seems to be encouraging those people and the way they use LP to attack other posters--- over and over and over again. She lets people get away with all manner of crazy things- and she THEN bans you just like that?? What is she cleaning up?? I am confused. That is because you think rationally, and make the mistake lots of intelligent rational people do of looking for a rational reason for irrational behavior. Goldi-Schmuck is simply unstable and I do believe an alcoholic. Having grown up in such an environment and lived through it first hand the behavior fits.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Trying to analyze Goldi-Pox's behavior is at best problematic because she is not entirely rational. However, I also agree that there may well be outside influence shaping what she allows and does not allow as well as what posters she likes, dislikes, and allows to get away with murder.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
i've deduced the same. so many times, i've read comments saying it's just the internet, but the internet is comprised of real people. i understand that many behave differently when they're behind a screen and anonymous than they would in person and face to face, but that makes me think that's when the real person is being revealed. To some extent. I know how I react and behave and nowadays it is pretty much as I am in person. I did go through a snide phase - but that was dealing with 'bots - a class of people which I do not voluntarily socialize in the non-cyber world. I am perhaps a bit more reserved in person, but not with people I know well. Although there is the time I tore up a Tax Bureaucrat on a public bus - he was going apoplectic by the time he got off. I'm a baaaaaaaaad boy. Currently though I am watching a kitten tear the place up. She is about to get a "time out" in the back bedroom. ;-)
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
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OI- I ,too ,grew up with alcoholism. So did my parents. I hear you. I do, sincerely hope, that anyone who has a substance abuse problem- or has been effected by someone's substance abuse, finds peace and comfort in therapy or a peer support group. I have been in a peer support group (alanon) for over two years and it has changed my life. I wish for everyone the same peace I have found. All of my relationships have been mended, and I have been able to love my alcoholic with an open and healed heart. You are right- substance abuse is about chaos and is irrational- and no one needs to live that way, because there is help and understaning out there. I do apologize for misunderstanding about the posting status, Eric. :) I get it now. I have only have been verbally *attacked* by two posters there- and that has gone on for years- with the same people. I don't see where Goldi is setting an example for those two posters to be more civil, with the way she has been approaching posters- so I still won't be returning there. I have really had enough of that Tom Foolery. Have a great day kids.
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#2. To: abraxas (#1)
Eric, did you forget your commandments?
#3. To: abraxas (#1)
Ta ta!
My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.
#4. To: abraxas (#0)
The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.
#5. To: abraxas (#1)
#6. To: hondo68 (#3)
would have expected people with mean/nasty/evil streaks like that to be in institutes for the mentally insane, in prisons for the criminally insane, or locked up as sociopaths having destroyed everyone in their families.
#7. To: Eric Stratton (#5)
#8. To: mininggold (#2)
#9. To: Eric Stratton (#5)
The place is devoid of thought right now. It's the fantasyland of the obvious over there, little else. No solid interaction and when you try to seriously engage someone in arduous polemical discussion a barrage of names comes hurling your way.
#10. To: hondo68 (#3)
#11. To: IRTorqued (#4)
I might just boot all their asses off LP.
#12. To: Eric Stratton (#8)
Goldi had never bothered me, and frankly, didn't really bother me earlier either, but when my posts are removed, sorry, no sense in sticking around if you're gonna start removing shit that you don't like. I come as a whole, I don't sell myself off in parts like they do.
#13. To: IRTorqued (#4)
#14. To: mininggold (#6)
how did Blutarsky, exhibiting these particular attributes, stay under her "astute" radar for so long?
My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.
#15. To: Eric Stratton (#13)
What's ironic is that she made a comment about why FR kicked a bunch of us out, but they all welcomed me in with open arms at LP at the time. They actually came and solicited me.
#16. To: abraxas (#7)
#17. To: abraxas (#7)
#18. To: mininggold (#9)
#19. To: Eric Stratton (#13)
The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.
#20. To: abraxas (#11)
#21. To: mininggold (#12)
#22. To: mininggold (#15)
#23. To: IRTorqued (#19)
#24. To: Eric Stratton (#23)
Where do you talk to people face to face about LP?
The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.
#25. To: mininggold, Eric Stratton (#12)
"I knew then (Goldi-lox) was obsessed with Palin in a very unhealthy way. Sad, sad, sad"
#26. To: abraxas, Eric Stratton (#0)
So, based on your Palin-performance history...if you can't abstain as noted above, I'll just close your account.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#27. To: IRTorqued (#4)
seems sally is turning rimjob tonight.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#28. To: Eric Stratton (#16)
Like I said, time to move on like so many before me.
#29. To: Eric Stratton, abraxas, FormerLurker, TwentyTwelve, wudidiz, all (#5)
The place is devoid of thought right now. It's the fantasyland of the obvious over there, little else. No solid interaction and when you try to seriously engage someone in arduous polemical discussion a barrage of names comes hurling your way.
#30. To: FormerLurker (#26)
#31. To: abraxas (#0)
I'm SICK AND TIRED of your constant comments that do NOTHING positive.
#32. To: Eric Stratton, Original_Intent (#29)
Congratulations.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#33. To: Big Meanie, mininggold, Eric Stratton (#25)
I really doubt that it is about Palin. I think it's about Israel.
#34. To: mininggold (#2)
On O'Reilley Sarah said she wanted the US to be the supreme superpower of the world and to ACT like it.
#35. To: hondo68 (#3)
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I would have expected people with mean/nasty/evil streaks like that to be in institutes for the mentally insane, in prisons for the criminally insane, or locked up as sociopaths having destroyed everyone in their families.
#36. To: Eric Stratton (#16)
And while I tend to avoid personal politics on forums, then there's Goldi going off on one of her PMS benders usually induced by some personal vendetta. I just stayed out of it and didn't take sides, but I did notice it.
#37. To: IRTorqued (#4)
seems sally is turning rimjob tonight.
#38. To: RickyJ (#34)
If she means telling Israel to get the heck out of the Gaza strip and West bank then I am all for it. Because if we are the only super power then little Israel should do as we say or else, right?
#39. To: Eric Stratton, Samuel Gray (#20)
#40. To: mininggold (#6)
She evidently doesn't realize that most sociopaths appear charming and conniving.
#41. To: Eric Stratton (#22)
And it was funny, I actually called out Tony Snow, whom I thought was just someone else posting under "Tony Snow," but it was really him. So he and I had some back and forth via e-mail, but I quickly realized that he was just the GOP-Bush-bot that he was too. We were talking about the war and the goals for the war, etc. I lost contact when he got the WH job.
#42. To: mininggold (#41)
#43. To: Eric Stratton, all (#23)
#44. To: AGAviator (#42)
I believe Travis McGee was banned for being too strident about Mexican illegals.
#45. To: AGAviator (#42)
I believe Travis McGee was banned
#46. To: abraxas (#45)
#47. To: mininggold (#44)
He was in a couple of dustups with Tony too
#48. To: mininggold (#47)
#49. To: abraxas (#45)
Travis McGee was banned? I thought he simply left because he had enough of the sand box shinanigans at LP.
#50. To: abraxas (#45)
#51. To: AGAviator (#50)
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#52. To: AGAviator (#47)
You mean the real Tony Snow posted on FR?
#53. To: AGAviator (#46)
Travis was banned for sure. Maybe he got reinstated later but after he was banned he started posting extensively on El Pee.
#54. To: abraxas (#53)
#55. To: AGAviator (#37)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#56. To: abraxas (#53)
I've never been to that Freeper site.
#57. To: IRTorqued (#24)
#58. To: FormerLurker (#26)
#59. To: FormerLurker (#27)
#60. To: abraxas (#28)
#61. To: Original_Intent (#29)
#62. To: RickyJ (#31)
#63. To: RickyJ (#35)
#64. To: mininggold (#36)
#65. To: AGAviator (#39)
#66. To: AGAviator (#40)
#67. To: mininggold (#41)
#68. To: mininggold (#43)
#69. To: mininggold (#44)
#70. To: mininggold (#43)
#71. To: mininggold (#43)
#72. To: Eric Stratton (#65)
It's literally like walking through a yard full of dogshit if you don't put them on bozo. Bozo gives you the rubber boots to not care.
#73. To: abraxas (#45)
#74. To: AGAviator (#46)
#75. To: Eric Stratton (#66)
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What bothers me about Palin is that seems to think that she's George Patton in female form yet with a fraction of the brain/intelligence.
#76. To: AGAviator (#47)
#77. To: mininggold (#51)
#78. To: AGAviator (#72)
#79. To: wbales (#75)
#80. To: Eric Stratton (#79)
I don't know what to make of the Israeli/Jewish thing as it pertains to Amerika.
#81. To: Eric Stratton, mininggold (#67)
Was that at the same time that Travis McGee was banned for not showing proper reverence to Tony?
#82. To: Eric Stratton (#68)
I feel sorry for the next newby poster who says something not quite kosher at LP about Palin, because it will be banned as your retread. lol
#83. To: Eric Stratton (#61)
Well it's funny, I didn't back down either, yet I was allowed to remain.
It's funny, because the sheep over there all launched into this tirade of how "we," the "anti-palin" people, never post articles or the like while citing non-subjects of the thread as examples while leap-frogging the notion that on days that I bothered to show up I posted more articles than most of the people doing the most bitching.
Congratulations.
You've graduated.
Not sure whether to take that as a compliment or insult. LOL
#84. To: Original_Intent (#83)
Some of the anger you see on 4um is not directed against Jews is not as a people per se but anger over the actions of the Zionists both in Israel and their actions to subvert our government for their ends - along with resentment directed at the rabid pro-Israel contingent on the web (well known for their poor manners and hateful tactics). LP is heavily infested with Israbots who, despite whatever cover they use, are single issue posters whose primary focus is as "Hasbara" for Israel. Some of the others work for other groups/agencies and I have not really kept track of it.
#85. To: Hayek Fan (#84)
Just yesterday Magician pretty much came right out and said that the U.S.S. Liberty deserved what it got because they were spying on Israel and sending the information to Egypt. He was actually defending Israel. Yet not one of the supposed uber patriots on LP said a damned thing to him about it, not even Mad Dog, who supposedly served in the U.S. Navy.
#86. To: Hayek Fan (#84)
I used to have zero opinion about Jews, Israel, Christian Zionists, etc. until I began posting on LP. Over the years the words of Goldi, Magician, Jizz Fan/whatever her other names were, Marg, and many other Israeli-firsters changed my opinion from neutral to negative. I can guarantee that if they changed my opinion of them then they damn well changed the opinions of others. They are their own worst enemies.
Just yesterday Magician pretty much came right out and said that the U.S.S. Liberty deserved what it got because they were spying on Israel and sending the information to Egypt. He was actually defending Israel. Yet not one of the supposed uber patriots on LP said a damned thing to him about it, not even Mad Dog, who supposedly served in the U.S. Navy.
1. Israel is always right.
2. In the event of discovering Israel is in the wrong refer to rule "1".
#87. To: abraxas (#85)
Magician has made this statement many, many, many times. He likes to quote a book that drolls on and on about how American has been bad to po' lil' Israel. It's complete FICTION, but Mag thinks it's the gospel.
#88. To: abraxas (#85)
Mad Dog called me an anti-semite for defending those who died during the USS Liberty attack. He called me every name in the book for calling and act of war an act of war. When I called MD a traitor for pissing on those who died in that attack, he really got pissed. : )
#89. To: Original_Intent (#86)
Magician is a rabid Zionist and Israel apologist. There is nothing Israel could do whether war crimes, human rights abuses, land theft, etc., ... that Magician would not defend.
#90. To: abraxas (#85)
Mad Dog called me an anti-semite for defending those who died during the USS Liberty attack.
#91. To: Original_Intent (#87)
Magician got so mad at me for burning his Strawman Arguments and posting verified data proving him wrong that he put me on bozo. I was so proud. ;-)
#92. To: Hayek Fan (#81)
McGee was only on LP until he was able to worm his way back on to FR. And worm his way back on is exactly what he did. Then he dumped LP like a bad habit, only showing up to post once in a blue moon. I used to have a lot of respect for him, but he's rabidly pro-war and pro-torture and as far as I'm concerned anyone still allowed to post on FR is nothing but a liberal Republicrat, regardless of the supposed "pro-liberty" books he writes. Personally I have no use for him and I'm sure the feeling is mutual. Let him continue to suck the ass of FR, the Washington establishment and the MIC. Maybe sooner or later he'll get tired of the taste of feces in his mouth.
#93. To: Hayek Fan (#88)
Mad Dog is likely a short, skinny and balding little man married to a 300 pound woman who has been lording over him for the past thirty plus years. I laugh every time I read one of his tirades. He takes out all of his life's frustrations on the internet because he doesn't have the balls to do it face to face. LOL!
#94. To: mininggold (#92)
I went to LP mainly because he was posting there and was critical of Bush and most of his policies, but when he kissed JRs butt and was reinstated I lost all respect for him too.
#95. To: abraxas (#93)
I too have presented his mommy complex issues as reasoning for his rants that are often against women who disagree with him.......like me. : )
#96. To: Hayek Fan (#84)
Just yesterday Magician pretty much came right out and said that the U.S.S. Liberty deserved what it got because they were spying on Israel and sending the information to Egypt. He was actually defending Israel. Yet not one of the supposed uber patriots on LP said a damned thing to him about it, not even Mad Dog, who supposedly served in the U.S. Navy.
#97. To: Hayek Fan (#89)
Magician is a rabid Zionist and Israel apologist. There is nothing Israel could do whether war crimes, human rights abuses, land theft, etc., ... that Magician would not defend.
#98. To: abraxas (#91)
Magician got so mad at me for burning his Strawman Arguments and posting verified data proving him wrong that he put me on bozo. I was so proud. ;-)
#99. To: Hayek Fan (#90)
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I've seen others, like TakeNoPrisoners, claim that the members of the U.S.S. Liberty themselves were liars making up stories because they were anti-Semites. This is how neocons support the troops.
#100. To: abraxas (#0)
#101. To: mininggold (#99)
I'm in the Travis flight path and when I mentioned all the Travis air traffic one day he called me a traitor and a divulger of secrets to the enemy. lol
#102. To: Hayek Fan (#101)
I attended 5th-7th grade at Travis AFB. We left there in December of 78. It was a great place to live.
#103. To: bluegrass (#100)
McNarcissism
#104. To: Original_Intent (#86)
1. Israel is always right.
#105. To: mininggold (#102)
It's all built up now and almost spreads to Vacaville and south to where Highway 12 hits 80. There is now a Suisun City made up of mainly suburban sprawl on the southeastside along side 12, which adjoins Travis AFB. Whites are now in the minority.
#106. To: Hayek Fan (#82)
label everyone whose views are different than yours as members of CP and ban them!
My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.
#107. To: hondo68 (#106)
I'm supprised that someone of Goldi's intellegence, hasn't invented a vaccine by now that stops CP in its tracks, and turns you into a neo-con.
#108. To: Hayek Fan, Eric Stratton (#107)
I'm supprised that someone of Goldi's intellegence, hasn't invented a vaccine by now that stops CP in its tracks, and turns you into a neo-con. Yes, that is surprising as she is a self-proclaimed genius. Surely she could put a stop to this scourge if she really wanted to.
#109. To: wbales (#80)
#110. To: Hayek Fan (#81)
#111. To: Hayek Fan (#82)
#112. To: Original_Intent (#83)
#113. To: Original_Intent (#83)
#114. To: Hayek Fan (#88)
#115. To: Original_Intent (#98)
#116. To: hondo68 (#106)
#117. To: abraxas (#108)
#118. To: Eric Stratton (#113)
What do you mean groups/agencies?
#119. To: Eric Stratton (#115)
That's what I'd been noticing more and more over the months, that and fewer and fewer people willing to reason and hash things out.
#120. To: Original_Intent (#118)
#121. To: Original_Intent (#119)
#122. To: Eric Stratton (#120)
Any on LP that you are aware of?
#123. To: Original_Intent (#122)
#124. To: Eric Stratton (#123)
#125. To: Eric Stratton, Original_Intent, all (#123)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#126. To: *9-11*, *Black Ops - Psyops*, *Escape From ElPee* (#125)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#127. To: wudidiz (#125)
#128. To: Eric Stratton, Original_Intent (#127)
I hear ya, but from experience, these things also happen at say sports sites, and I know as a fact that much of it is simply due to stupidity and lack of intelligence or reasoning ability.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#129. To: wudidiz (#128)
#130. To: wudidiz (#128)
#131. To: Eric Stratton (#129)
I swear I'm gonna die by getting shot by the Feds whenever I do die.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#132. To: Rotara (#131)
#133. To: Hayek Fan (#101)
TakeNoPrisoners is a moron.
The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.
#134. To: Eric Stratton (#5)
#135. To: Original_Intent (#118)
#136. To: Eric Stratton (#127)
If you think about it, it is a microcosm of how the entire world is.
#137. To: diva betsy ross (#134)
Wow- I am more than a little confused by Goldi's remarks to you. I believed that she was serious about cleaning the place up- but she lets war stay.. and everything out of his mouth is a nasty, illogical personal attack. She lets people make threats against others- and looks the other way.
#138. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#135)
#139. To: christine, Eric Stratton (#136)
(Edited)
If you think about it, it is a microcosm of how the entire world is.
#140. To: diva betsy ross (#134)
#141. To: christine (#136)
#142. To: Original_Intent (#137)
#143. To: Original_Intent (#138)
#144. To: Original_Intent (#139)
#145. To: Original_Intent (#137)
#146. To: hondo68, All (#3)
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