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Title: Sarah Palin vs Barack Obama: The approval gap silently shrinks to a few points
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URL Source: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/was ... palins-poll-numbers-are-c.html
Published: Nov 23, 2009
Author: LA Times
Post Date: 2009-11-23 09:46:21 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 304
Comments: 35

Sarah Palin vs Barack Obama: The approval gap silently shrinks to a few points

November 23, 2009 |  1:32 am

Republican Sarah Palin signs Going Rogue copies in Michigan

Not that it matters politically because obviously she's a female Republican dunce and he's a male Democrat genius.

But Sarah Palin's poll numbers are strengthening.

And Barack Obama's are sliding.

Guess what? They're about to meet in the 40's.

Depending, of course, on which recent set of numbers you peruse and how the questions are phrased, 307 days into his allotted 1,461 the 44th president's approval rating among Americans has slid to 49% or 48%, showing no popularity bounce from his many happy trips, foreign and domestic.Virginia line for Sarah Palin Going Rogue Book buyers

Riding the wave of immense publicity and symbiotic media interest over her new book, "Going Rogue," and the accompanying promotional tour, Palin's favorable ratings are now at 43%, according to ABC. That's up from 40% in July.

One poll even gives her a 47% favorable.

Most recent media attention has focussed on the 60% who say she's unqualified to become president. Her unfavorable rating is 52%, down from 53%, which still doesn't ignite a lot of optimism for Palin-lovers.

On the other hand, 35 months before the 2008 election, that Illinois state senator was such a nobody that no one even thought to ask such a question about him. Things seem to change much more quickly these days.

Saturday night Palin's book bus swung by a mall in Roanoke, Va., a state Obama won a year ago but just recently elected a Republican governor to replace departing Tim Kaine, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee. The former Alaska governor wanted to greet the hundreds of fans already lining up in 39-degree weather for her Sunday morning signing.

"She brings out a different crowd, " Salem Republican Party Chairman Greg Habeeb told the Roanoke Times. Habeeb was struck by the numerous non-Republicans he spotted in the line snaking all over the mall. "She taps into something that the Republican Party really needs to tap into."

Sunday Palin flew ahead of her bus to visit the Rev. Billy Graham and his son Franklin at the father's North Carolina home before her appearance today at Fort Bragg.

Overall, Palin's, well, campaign will visit 25 states, most of them politically crucial. Florida gets the most stops, three.

Everybody thinks 2012 when they think of Palin, who last week pushed Oprah's show to....

... its highest ratings in nearly three years. Remember, though, in 2012 the first hurdles a rehabbed candidate Palin would face are her own party's primaries, where diligent conservatives conscientiously come out to play.

Sarah Palin Going Rogue Book Cover

If she somehow mobilized Iowa's white evangelicals as Mike Huckabee did to win the 2008 season-opening caucus, many bets would be off about her unelectability. Right now, Palin holds 65% approval among white evangelical Protestants, not a bad place to start, if she decides to.

That same ABC poll finds Palin's GOP approval right around 76%, 45% among independents and a surprisingly substantial 21% among Democrats. Among self-described liberals she's seen favorably by a slightly larger 22%, among moderates 38% and among conservatives 60%.

Anyway, Palin says 2012's not on her radar. Which is a good idea. The year 2010 is much more important for both of these political personalities.

No longer holding any office and personally set financially by the book's runaway success, Palin can devote her SarahPac and the entire year to collecting chits from local Republicans.

As Mitt Romney has already been quietly doing. Other Republicans will no doubt nominate themselves to join along the way, especially if Obama looks vulnerable after November 2010.

Although presidential incumbency has hardly kept Obama chained to the Oval Office, he and Joe Biden now own the U.S. economy, where their much-vaunted $787 billion economic stimulus package has so far stimulated unemployment to grow by a quarter from 8% to more than 10%.Democrat president Barack Obama walks alone on China's Great Wall on 11-18-09

And then there's the growing deficit dread and the mounting costs -- both human and financial -- in the increasingly unpopular Afghan conflict, where Obama is about to commit more U.S. troops at the end of the eighth and worst casualty year of the war.

We'll all hear much next year about how jobs are the last thing to improve in a sour economy, even in congressional districts that don't actually exist. Which is too bad for Democrats because jobs are the obvious first measure the public uses to measure the economy.

Historically, the White House party loses about 17 House seats in a normal midterm election cycle. That wouldn't change control of the House.

George W. Bush's GOP actually gained seats in 2002. Democrat Bill Clinton's first midterm election was a political Katrina, producing the Contract with America and so-called Republican Revolution that saw the GOP take control of both houses of Congress after years of minority status.

Much of that turnaround was attributed to Clinton having run in 1992 as a centrist and then immediately pushed a more liberal agenda involving something called healthcare reform.

But that couldn't possibly happen again because of the popularity of Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi whose current favorable poll ratings are -- let's see here -- OMG, only about half of Palin's.

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-- Andrew Malcolm


Poster Comment:

The choice seems to be shaping up to be the Kenyan Without Papers or Palin. Of course you can sit it out as I have for the past decade, but nevertheless the Palin emergence seems to trouble some of the more patrician members of the GOP. She certainly drives the socialists insane, so regardless of what happens, the nation is cracking down the middle and that is a good thing. (4 images)

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

The approval gap silently shrinks to a few points

Just perhaps the feel good white guilters have finally realized they were snookered a year ago?

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-23   9:49:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1)

It could be Cyni, but White Guilt needs years of psychoanalysis and medication before tangible results can be seen. In many cases it's simply an incurable mental condition (see the Nesters). I think this poll is either bogus to gin up enthusiasm for an electoral process that distracts the sheeple, or if it's true, Palin will be viewed as the "3rd party outsider" which will tend to mollify the more mild insurgents among us.

Pray for Obama: Psalm 1984

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-11-23   9:58:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-11-23   10:01:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

I've retired from the electorate permanently, but I can tell you that most of the Democratic Party is BEGGING the GOPers to commit this final suicidal act.

The GOPer establishment will move heaven and earth to have even Pastor Huckabee be the nominee rather than her. They'd prefer Mitt, but Mormonism is equated with "Lucifer worship" with the Bible-banging base of the party.

In fact, I will go further. The CFR members, who own and operate the Republican Party just as they do the Dem one, will officially disband the party if she is nominated, leaving her with no party affiliation.

I suppose she could then continue running a la Teddy Roosevelt in 1912 as the "Cow Moose" candidate.

Ironically, I think one of her developing problems is she is TOO pro-Israel. There are powerful factions among the globalists who are not in agreement with the Likud version of the SLC. Sarah, though, swears allegiance to it.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-11-23   10:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-11-23   10:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Eric Stratton (#3)

American selections are used to keep otherwise sane people from taking people like Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, McCain, Dubya, etc. and doing terrible things to them. Selections here are used in the same way they are used in any South American dictatorship, minus the purple fingers. It's very hard not to get all lathered up over the individual actors, and what they're doing to us, but the power they obey lies elsewhere.

Pray for Obama: Psalm 1984

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-11-23   10:09:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Sam Houston (#4)

I've retired from the electorate permanently, but I can tell you that most of the Democratic Party is BEGGING the GOPers to commit this final suicidal act.

As one who is retired x 10 years from the process, if Palin were as irrelevant as you claim the Ds wouldn't mention her name. IIRC, they said the same about Reagan. I also have to say you appear to have missed the point completely. Selections are about the pacification of true American radicals who know both sides really suck.

Pray for Obama: Psalm 1984

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-11-23   10:17:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Eric Stratton (#5)

Until she comes clean on her positions regarding the borders/immigration/deportation, and until she comes out and says that she's for doing what needs to be done, for starters getting entirely rid of the Dept. of Education and telling states/cities/towns/families to educate their own kids, etc., she's just another pro-war neocon.

Absolutely.

Pray for Obama: Psalm 1984

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-11-23   10:19:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

Someone picked Palin out of the crowd to run for VP.

That someone is still the guiding hand, Palin is NOT out there winging it on her own.

Both quit their jobs. Book deal or no book deal, there has to be some assurance from someone that this will be an ongoing operation.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-23   10:39:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Most recent media attention has focussed on the 60% who say she's unqualified to become president. Her unfavorable rating is 52%, down from 53%, which still doesn't ignite a lot of optimism for Palin-lovers.

I want a divider, not a uniter.

Washington, if you're listening, there could not be a worse time for a beverage tax. -- Robert Santoni, store owner, Baltimore

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-11-23   11:00:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#1)

Just perhaps the feel good white guilters have finally realized they were snookered a year ago?

Well you know you can't vote against health care and call yourself a black man. You just can't.

Washington, if you're listening, there could not be a worse time for a beverage tax. -- Robert Santoni, store owner, Baltimore

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-11-23   11:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Eric Stratton (#3)

The hype over this woman reminds me exactly of the hype over Junior.

She's more implicitly white than shrub. IMO.

Washington, if you're listening, there could not be a worse time for a beverage tax. -- Robert Santoni, store owner, Baltimore

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-11-23   11:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#9)

Both quit their jobs. Book deal or no book deal, there has to be some assurance from someone that this will be an ongoing operation

Glen Beck is planning an August, 2010 rally in the National Mall. To have the rally out this far is no accident, and it's good news. *NOTHING* will happen until people get in the streets, regardless of their motives, regardless of their politics. What a juicy target they will make for a 1933, Germany-style "event."

Pray for Obama: Psalm 1984

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-11-23   11:09:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull (#13)

What's the alleged purpose of Beck's rally?

Lod  posted on  2009-11-23   11:18:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Lod (#14)

Not a clue. I heard that piece and went on to do other things.

Pray for Obama: Psalm 1984

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-11-23   11:28:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jethro Tull, Lod (#13)

To have the rally out this far is no accident,

Long range planning.

Traficant seems to be spinning his wheels.

Dobbs says he will be a player but no indication as to how.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-23   11:35:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#15)

Countries that are excessively devoted to political theatrics such as this are not healthy ones.

I have a lot of Canadian kinfolks and not even one-tenth of the time is spent up there on political agitation as is spent here. It's a boring country compared to this one and, by most measures, a healthier one as well.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-11-23   11:37:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#16)

Traficant seems to be spinning his wheels.

I think Jim is going to enjoy the holidays before he considers anything. I have no idea who is currently in his old seat, but I'd expect him to make a move by the Spring. At least I hope he does.

Pray for Obama: Psalm 1984

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-11-23   12:13:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Sam Houston (#17)

I have a lot of Canadian kinfolks and not even one-tenth of the time is spent up there on political agitation as is spent here. It's a boring country compared to this one and, by most measures, a healthier one as well.

I wish we'd have a European selection of parties - from the extreme right to the extreme left. The slop we have is the absolute worst.

Pray for Obama: Psalm 1984

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-11-23   12:16:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Eric Stratton (#3) (Edited)

There's not a shred of relevant substance in this piece.

The hype over this woman reminds me exactly of the hype over Junior.

It has worked so well in the past for the GOP, why should they change when they will probably just be having Karl Rove doing all the hard lifting again for whatever Pubby is elected? They should just run Karl as he was the real pres during the last administration.

It's been decided that we MUST have a war with Iran and probably Pakistan and it just doesn't look like Obama's got the guts for it.

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-23   12:24:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mininggold (#20)

It's been decided that we MUST have a war with Iran and probably Pakistan and it just doesn't look like Obama's got the guts for it for it.

Fine with me.

Lod  posted on  2009-11-23   12:27:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Lod (#21)

Fine with me.

If you want a war with Iran then you will have one with Russia it's as simple as that. And they also own and keeping buying large portions of our debt.

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-23   12:31:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Sam Houston, Jethro Tull (#17)

Countries that are excessively devoted to political theatrics such as this are not healthy ones.

Funny choice of words. I would have said our not this

I have a lot of Canadian kinfolks

In most of your posts you act more like a Canuckistani than an American, are you sure you're not really one? I'm not

It's a boring country compared to this one

I know, I lived there for a number of years. It's "Europe-Lite" and it's populated by emasculated girly-men who are psychologically castrated at birth.

and, by most measures, a healthier one as well.

How's that? Canuckistan is not a land of opportunity. It's almost impossible to amass any wealth there. In almost every business you have to follow the British model, i.e. formal kickbacks. You have no Constitutional protections, in the areas of the 1st, 2nd, 4th,and 5th Amendments.

I can go on and on and I will but just what are you talking about?

Ted Kennedy Is Now Eligible To Vote In Chicago.

Flintlock  posted on  2009-11-23   12:50:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull (#13)

Glen Beck is planning an August, 2010 rally in the National Mall

Once 2011 rolls around there will be no more National Mall protests. Nada, zip, zilch. Our representatives decided to make a rally in their backyard illegal.

No mention of the constitution, of course........

abraxas  posted on  2009-11-23   13:01:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Lod, All (#14)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-11-23   13:09:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#10)

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#27. To: Cynicom (#9)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-11-23   13:15:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Eric Stratton (#25)

Generally speaking, rallies have some desired outcome or action that people are fired-up about; immigration, gun control, healthcare, end the war, whatever the people want .gov to do, or not do.

Lod  posted on  2009-11-23   13:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: abraxas (#24)

Once 2011 rolls around there will be no more National Mall protests. Nada, zip, zilch. Our representatives decided to make a rally in their backyard illegal.

That's assuming we continue to obey this rogue government. IMO, by 2011, this nation will be broken down to people who support big government, and those who don't. A radicalization is occurring; you can see and hear it daily. Should the Kenyan and his imps tell us gatherings are no longer permitted at Our House, I hope I'm not alone in telling him, and them, to shove their dictate.

Pray for Obama: Psalm 1984

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-11-23   13:19:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mininggold (#20)

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#31. To: abraxas (#24)

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#32. To: Jethro Tull (#29)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-11-23   17:07:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mininggold (#22)

If you want a war with Iran then you will have one with Russia it's as simple as that. And they also own and keeping buying large portions of our debt.

Exactly.

Dithers can keep dithering for the next three years and I'll be pleased.

Lod  posted on  2009-11-23   17:27:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Not that it matters politically because obviously she's a female Republican dunce and he's a male Democrat genius.

That one sentence did it for me. I am NOT about to read crap that insults my intelligence. Referring to buckwheat as a "male Democrat genius" proves the writer's inobjectivity.

I have said before that I don't care whether Palin runs or doesn't run. I just refuse to accept the one-sided coverage of her activities by the media. On the other hand, she supports Israel and is at present being handled by a joo. Need I say more?

Phant2000  posted on  2009-11-23   21:11:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Phant2000 (#34)

On the other hand, she supports Israel and is at present being handled by a joo. Need I say more?

she's a neocon through and through. Alex Jones was saying today that if she's on the ticket in '12, Obama will win. i think the house of cards will fall before then.

christine  posted on  2009-11-23   21:19:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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