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Title: Glenn Beck and Alex Jones: Controlled Dissent
Source: American Everyman
URL Source: http://willyloman.wordpress.com/200 ... her-pacify-together/#more-7868
Published: Nov 23, 2009
Author: Scott Creighton
Post Date: 2009-11-23 21:27:06 by bluegrass
Keywords: None
Views: 1149
Comments: 44

The best way to defeat a revolution is to lead it. Control it, steer it, demean it, pacify it… and then you will eventually disarm it.

The people of America are angry and they will soon be getting even angrier. The vast numbers of the unemployed, underemployed, disenfranchised, discontented, and just plain “dissed” are growing at an exponential rate.

This was not unexpected.

Ever since they have been tinkering with their neoliberal free-market economic models, the Chicago School globalists have known full well that they can never get these draconian reforms to be welcomed by any general population. Just take our own recent election of “CHANGE”… what exactly did we vote for? What exactly did we get?

It’s not hard to figure out that if you intend to create massive unemployment and social discord in any nation, the vast majority of the people of that nation will eventually rise up against you and shut down your plans. So, steps must be taken to prepare for that.

The most important of these steps is too control the dissent movements themselves from within. And the best way to do that, is too lead them.

Thanks to the Global War on Terror, the surveillance state within the United States has come out of the darkness and into the light.

Not only is it intensified with hundreds of millions of dollars, but, since 9/11 occurred, it is out in the open and considered a good thing for the nation. We already know they are targeting “dissidents” as opposed to al Qaeda sleeper cells. It’s not about preventing another 9/11 as much as it is about quelling another revolution. When the FBI and the NSA are spending their time and their resources infiltrating Peace Fresno, it’s not because they are too stupid to understand that they really aren’t a “terrorist” threat; it’s because they are smart enough to understand that the kind of threat Peace Fresno does represent is far more dangerous to the people who really call the shots in this country.

After you create an unconstitutionally intrusive surveillance infrastructure and the climate in which it can thrive without question or oversight, then the next step is to militarize law enforcement to the point where it can put down massive popular resistance. Again, since 9/11, funding for the police state in America (and all the other “partners” in the Global War on Terror”) has increased a hundred fold since 9/11. Except for the colors of the uniforms, it’s almost impossible to distinguish a soldier in Iraq from your average ‘tactical” officer deployed as crowd control on the streets of the United States these days. Again, that is not because the people in the Pentagon or the White House are too stupid to understand that al Qaeda doesn’t exist in here in America; its because they are smart enough to understand that the policies they enact overseas will create the same kind of resistance here in America once they are brought home. And that the resistance must be crushed quickly, publicly, and without mercy.

Finally, one of the most effective ways to undermine social unrest in a general population, is to lead it. And this is where we get to our two “Birds of a Feather”; Alex Jones and Glenn Beck.

There will always be those people within a population who will not be so easily persuaded to just follow along with the status quo as the neoliberal reforms undermine the standard of living of the majority. As long as you can accurately forecast the political and social shift, it is important to garner control of that segment of the population as early as possible. You do that by taking a psuedo-charismatic, someone relatively unknown (in say the telecommunication field) with grandiose ambitions of personal fame and wealth. You endow a measure of success on that person and then you assist them as much as possible as they build credibility within the targeted subculture. As your planted leader’s popularity rises, he is then capable of steering the dissident energies in whatever direction that best serves the establishment. You never have to worry about being betrayed by your puppet revolutionary “leader” as that his own personal ambition and the fear of being unmasked as a tool of the opposition will ensure obedience for as long as he is useful.

Glenn Beck and Alex Jones both have very similar backgrounds. With Jones it was an early start in public access television call in shows, and with Beck it was AM talk radio. But then, around 2000, something happened. Out of the blue, Beck received a recommendation from Sen. Joe Lieberman to attend Yale University as a “special student” and then he was shipped to Tampa to host a political talk show and Jones was somehow allowed to gain access to the secret meetings at Bohemian Grove with a video camera which garnered him a great deal of credibility in an already growing dissident/anti-globalization movement.

Now, for those AJ fans out there who wish to try to make the argument that some how that fat little egomaniac was able to “sneak” past the security services for all the world leaders who were in attendance, simply because no-one anticipated someone walking through the woods as opposed to coming up the dirt road, well… if you believe that, I can’t help you. It will hopefully suffice to say that, yes, with world leaders and industrialist and bankers in attendance, I bet someone in the vast security apparatus figured they should also cover the woods surrounding the meeting place.

Both Beck and Jones enjoy tremendous popularity. Beck’s estimated personal wealth is somewhere around $23 million or so while Jones is a little more secretive about his. But with all his books and films and websites and various “money bombs”, Jones certainly isn’t hurting for cash in this economy like so many of his followers are.

While Beck’s transition to dissent coincided precisely with the swearing-in of the new president, Jones’ took a little more time to develop. But aside from just the remarkable access he was granted to “secretly” film the Bohemian Grove gathering, Jones was also granted a little tidbit of information that gave him even more credibility with a certain movement that was bound to develop; he predicted 9/11 a month or so prior to the attacks on his radio show.

So now you have two (and there are clearly more out there) leaders of the dissent groups out there leading the charge.

During the Bush years, Jones was positioned to “lead” the growing dissent movement in America. The problem is, aside from selling ad space and books and money-bombs, he really didn’t do much with it. If you think that the revolution is going to be won by standing outside the Standard Oil building with a bullhorn or by selling “survivalist seeds” you don’t know much about revolutions. “Waking up” the general population is all well and good, but eventually you have to put your ass where your mouth is. Revolutions are never started by the majority of the population so ultimately, endless promotion becomes stalling. Jones has enjoyed 9 years of his endlessly self-promoting ”InfoWars” and the only thing he has really managed to build is his person portfolio.

It doesn’t do any good when the shit hits the fan to “wake up” your junkyard dogs, if all you are going to do with them is make ‘em fetch you fortune.

Beck is currently employed in the same service to the elites.

Just the other day, Glenn Beck returned here to Tampa to “rally the troops” so to speak. His schtick is pretty much the same as Jones’. He talks about “ending the fed” and stopping the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but again it’s pretty clear that his message is just more stalling. In fact, this video I have embedded below, shows Beck saying exactly that; wait… and buy my book. In the following video, Beck is announcing his “100 year plan”… 100 years to take back our country, since, according to Beck, you can’t actually DO anything… right now (except buy his book and the next one that comes out detailing his “100 Year Plan”). Now, if anything could be more obvious than that, I haven’t seen it (well, except maybe another Mormon cointelpro agent, Steven Jones, misdirecting the Truth movement with his endless “thermite” variations). Beck actually stands up there and tells his followers that in order to retake control of this country, they have to WAIT for years and years.

Beck has successfully painted the corporatist Obama DLCers as “socialists” to his followers and has stirred up a lot of anger within his group. Well, he didn’t actually create the anger… that comes from the loss of working class jobs and the endless attacks of the standard of living of millions and millions of good, hard-working Americans. Beck just gets up there and reads his scripts that are prepared by the spin doctors and plays to the growing animosity of his target audience. He blames the “socialists” and the leftists who are actually the most adamant critics of the Obama/Bush administration, and in so doing, he demonises the people who could actually ignite real “CHANGE” in America. Divide and conquer.

But his real message, unabashedly, is “wait”. And this message is no different than Jone’s. Wait.

You will also notice that I picked two similar images of Beck and Jones. The ridiculousness of these images is not by chance. You see, part of their tasks is to bring ridicule and condemnation upon the very movements they lead by the task-masters assigned to “steer” the center. Jones is portrayed as a midly-racist conspiracist crack-pot by the left with the intention of dissuading the general population from even considering the legitimacy of certain claims, while Beck and his followers are cast as the proto-fascist Nazi racists.

This way, you can use these two assets to not only help steer the dissent movements into an endless state of inaction, but also to help undermine the credibility of their respective causes to the general population at large while shoring up a status-quo supporting story-line of “moderate”, centrist, acquiescence.

As Jones’s endless vortex of directionless “InfoWars” and Becks’ soon to be revealed “100 Year Plan” drone on, the only thing that one can be sure of, aside from the fact that these two will punch their elite cards while making vast sums of money off their followers, is that nothing of any real consequence will be even attempted by the ever-growing population of the gullible oppressed. In fact, you can probably assume that were an actual revolution to take shape in this country, the handlers of these two assets would certainly direct them to steer their followers to help crush it in service to the institutions that run this nation.

And being as gullible as the following video seems to prove that they are, they would do it, turning the dissent movement into yet another, more obvious tool of oppression for the elite.

Behold! Glenn Beck, the multimillionaire elitist, tells his jobless and angry followers to wait a hundred years. and they buy it...

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#1. To: christine, Prefrontal Vortex, Cynicom, Esso, Lod, abraxas, wbales, Bub, Original_Intent (#0)

From just a few days ago:

Limbaugh site links to Alex Jones

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-11-23   21:29:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: bluegrass (#0)

Finally, one of the most effective ways to undermine social unrest in a general population, is to lead it. And this is where we get to our two “Birds of a Feather”; Alex Jones and Glenn Beck.

BS ;)

christine  posted on  2009-11-23   21:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#2)

Jones is portrayed as a midly-racist conspiracist crack-pot by the left with the intention of dissuading the general population from even considering the legitimacy of certain claims, while Beck and his followers are cast as the proto-fascist Nazi racists.

It's classic controlled opposition. Limbaugh wouldn't dare link to Jones unless he got the all clear.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-11-23   21:32:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine, smokesgrass (#2)

If satan be divideth against satan.........

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-11-23   21:33:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: bluegrass (#0)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-11-23   21:33:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#2)

BS ;)

BS is right. Jones doesn't flip-flop ... and he doesn't have the BIG MEDIA MOGULS behind him.

If ya gotta go with somebody, Jones is as good as there is.

Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.

noone222  posted on  2009-11-23   21:40:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: noone222 (#6)

If ya gotta go with somebody, Jones is as good as there is.

Your right sometimes.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-11-23   21:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: bluegrass (#0)

Thanks to the Global War on Terror, the surveillance state within the United States has come out of the darkness and into the light.

Imagine the odds

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2009-11-23   21:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: bluegrass (#0)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-11-23   21:53:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Dakmar (#8)

Imagine the odds

Yeah, as Col. Potter used to say, "There's not enough O's in smooth."

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-11-23   21:53:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: bluegrass (#0)

Just the other day, Glenn Beck returned here to Tampa to “rally the troops” so to speak. His schtick is pretty much the same as Jones’.

Except for that whole anti-imperialism, fiscal conservative, bit Jones dips into from time-to-time.

Why except for Beck declaring Ron Paul supporters to be terrorists, I'd imagine the average DNCGOPbot lives with a gnawing fear of both.

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2009-11-23   21:55:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: christine (#2)

Totally agree, and time to Ignore.

Lod  posted on  2009-11-23   21:58:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: bluegrass (#1)

MIKE DELANEY OF PROTHINK.ORG AGAIN AT HIS BEST...CONFRONTING THE JEW A.D.L. ON CAMERA LIVE

Mike Delaney of Prothink.org, who understands what the JEW Communists are up to, confronts the JEW ADL (Anti-Defamation League) as to 9/11. Also in attendance is a F.B.I. agent from the local area who also takes part in the interview by Delaney. Great viewing with Mike putting his feet to the street and exposing/confronting the JEWS.

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-11-23   21:58:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: bluegrass (#0)

Beck is announcing his “100 year plan”… 100 years to take back our country, since, according to Beck, you can’t actually DO anything… right now (except buy his book and the next one that comes out detailing his “100 Year Plan”).

Ha!

Incrementalism is obstructionism.

"In short; racialist science is properly not an act of aggression or a cover for oppression of one group over another, but, on the contrary, an operation in defense of private property against assaults by aggressors." -- Murray Rothbard

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-11-23   22:32:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: bluegrass (#0) (Edited)

OMG, the vid: "Hundred years... two can play at that game!" ROTFL!

F'in retarded.

"In short; racialist science is properly not an act of aggression or a cover for oppression of one group over another, but, on the contrary, an operation in defense of private property against assaults by aggressors." -- Murray Rothbard

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-11-23   22:46:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: bluegrass (#0)

Beck, is the Alex Jones for the masses.

Alex Jones is polarizing, not to mention anyone who brings him up is labeled as a resident of Kooksville.

Beck on the other hand, is a media superstar buttboy. Saying you like Glen Beck, is a lot like saying you like Rush Limbaugh, or any one of the other idiot talking heads turning Conservatives into the proletariat.

As much as I like Alex Jones, I find his message is a bit off track at times, and helter skelter in its presentation.

One of the DVD's I have of his, 9-11 The Road To Tyranny, was poorly edited, and executed. It needed to be more streamlined and succinct, not going 50 different directions like a drunken Shaman telling a parable.

I would love the opportunity to produce his DVD's and compile whatever topic he wants to discuss into something that is deliverable, and easier to follow. We have way too many mouth breathers out there who think they are intelligent who parrot the simplified lies and BS from the mainstream. It would be nice if Alex could get his simplified truth out there so that even the dumbest of the dumb could understand it.

Better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2009-11-24   0:00:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Itistoolate (#13)

Jones did his level best to inhibit criticism of the Jewish lobby for as long as he could, eh?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-11-24   0:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: bluegrass (#17) (Edited)

ones did his level best to inhibit criticism of the Jewish lobby for as long as he could, eh?

Have you listened to his program today?

It could be some undercover thing, attacking the ADL, Limbaugh, Glen Jones et al.

Or not. So, I'm hungry for a "solution."

...with the power of conviction, there is no sacrifice.

rack42  posted on  2009-11-24   0:47:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: All (#18) (Edited)

Oh, and this: Climate Fraud>

I'm guessing that's a zionist deflection?

Get real. (btw, link pointers still suck)

...with the power of conviction, there is no sacrifice.

rack42  posted on  2009-11-24   0:57:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: rack42 (#19)

What does Alex Jones do besides be a ringmaster a la Rush?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-11-24   2:14:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: bluegrass (#0)

Never thought much of Jones, and never thought anything of Beck.

Jones sounds like a Rush Limbaugh clone. I have heard enough of that crap to last a life time so needless to say, I do not listen to him. BTW, Rush himself is also controlled opposition. Hannity could be controlled opposition too, but he is so stupid he actually believes the stuff he peddles, which is what makes him a good advocate for the Republican side of the elite control apparatus.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-11-24   2:17:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: RickyJ (#21)

Hannity could be controlled opposition too, but he is so stupid he actually believes the stuff he peddles

LOL yep.


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy."

farmfriend  posted on  2009-11-24   2:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: bluegrass (#20)

What does Alex Jones do besides be a ringmaster a la Rush?

Nice try to "segue."

Who said any thing abou Rush?

...with the power of conviction, there is no sacrifice.

rack42  posted on  2009-11-24   3:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: rack42 (#23)

I did in the first post of this thread.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-11-24   3:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: All (#23)

Ok, I'm going for it.

HELLO BLUWEGRASS (yeah, your german, IMHO (hey, why not: I'm a dog ;))

Everything is a joo conspiracy.

Discount everything.

bye

...with the power of conviction, there is no sacrifice.

rack42  posted on  2009-11-24   3:35:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: rack42 (#23)

Try this instead:

Rush Promotes Article From 9-11 Truther Alex Jones' Website

"...Rush then used the infamous conspiracy theorist Alex Jones' website to engage in some Al Gore bashing, gleefully pointing out the Photoshopped changes in a picture of the Earth taken by NASA for his newest book, to highlight the dangers of climate change. Rush loved this article so much that he linked to it at the top of his website."

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-11-24   3:37:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: rack42 (#25)

Discount everything.

The truth is always the truth even if cheap showmen try to whore it out.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-11-24   3:38:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: bluegrass (#0)

The best way to defeat a revolution is to lead it. Control it, steer it, demean it, pacify it… and then you will eventually disarm it.

No, the best way to defeat a revolution is to undermine it's leaders by accusing them of working for the enemy.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-11-24   4:33:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#16)

One of the DVD's I have of his, 9-11 The Road To Tyranny, was poorly edited, and executed. It needed to be more streamlined and succinct, not going 50 different directions like a drunken Shaman telling a parable.

The earlier DVDs were a little unpolished and another reason to know that Jones isn't a spoon-fed mass media lackey.

I'm in da car with Jones ... if I'm wrong I guess I'll pay the price.

Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.

noone222  posted on  2009-11-24   5:04:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Itistoolate (#13)

Thanks - a must watch!

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-11-24   5:44:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: bluegrass (#0)

Glenn Beck and Alex Jones: Controlled Dissent

If Beck and company are Jewish stooges (and they probably are) then they are being twice to smart. They are pushing a snowball that will become an avalanche.

Once this anti government thing gets a full head of steam – then it will take 2 seconds for people to make a connect between our problems and the Jewish.

The connection between the US government and Israel and the ME – is already made in the minds of the American people.

The connection between the Jewish and Wall Street – is already made in the minds of the American people.

The first economic crash the Jewish got by ---- a second will pull them under.

What we have to fear is another war – Iran --- Beck and company are pushing that!

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-11-24   6:05:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: your_neighbor (#30)

republicbroadcasting.org/?p=5420

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-11-24   6:27:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: PaulCJ (#28)

So where's Jones's revolution?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-11-24   13:59:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: bluegrass (#33)

So where's Jones's revolution?

Study history, we are not at the violent stage yet.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-11-24   16:37:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: PaulCJ (#34)

I study history. That's why I don't trust Jones. The guy selling stuff with his name all over the cover isn't usually the one to pay attention to.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-11-24   18:51:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: bluegrass (#35)

I don't trust any of them. Both lets be honest, there are very few on TV whom are speaking out about the crap going in D.C. That short list includes Glenn Beck. And he actually explains and breaks it down with charts and graphs to see how it is laid out.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-11-24   19:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: PaulCJ (#36)

That's the point. Beck (and Jones) pretend to lay it all out but leave out important points. Half-truths are worse than ignorance. These two clowns engage in half-truths so they can sell crap to suckers.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-11-24   19:07:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: bluegrass (#37)

That's the point. Beck (and Jones) pretend to lay it all out but leave out important points.

And what are those "important points"?

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-11-25   8:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: PaulCJ (#38)

How many times did Jones mention Israel, Zionism, the Israeli lobby or AIPAC in his movie "Fall of the Republic"?

Zero.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-11-25   9:14:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: bluegrass (#39)

How many times did Jones mention Israel, Zionism, the Israeli lobby or AIPAC in his movie "Fall of the Republic"?

Didn't see that movie.

Though Beck has mentioned the ACLU, ADL and SPL a few times on his Fox News show.

And Beck has reported on communism/fascism/socialism be pushed through in the nation several times on his show.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-11-25   9:51:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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