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Title: Ed Begley, Jr. Loses Control Over ClimateGate
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Published: Nov 25, 2009
Author: Ed Begley
Post Date: 2009-11-25 09:39:36 by Jethro Tull
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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Ed Begley Jr. and everyone like him needs to be flogged.
Here are five things Begley suggests you start doing this holiday season: – Replace every conventional light bulb in your house or apartment with an energy-efficient LED bulb. “That includes your Christmas lights,” Begley notes. “They’re definitely cost-effective and use a whole lot less power.” – Weather-strip your doors and windows. “You can go to Home Depot and get this done in less than a day,” Begley says. “You’ll start saving money on your first energy billing cycle.” – Get yourself an energy-saving digital thermostat. “And don’t forget to program it,” Begley says. “Set it to your home habits, so it knows when you wake up and when you sleep. And don’t waste money heating your home when you’re not there.” – Keep the car in the garage, especially for short trips for whip cream and eggnog. “Ride a bike when weather and fitness permit,” Begley explains. “Or use public transportation.” – Stay grounded. “I think we fly too much,” Begley states. “There are a lot of emissions that go along with flying at 31,000 feet. I know I fly too much. I just recently drove up to Portland, Oregon and back in a hybrid car. That’s the way to do it.”
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Tie him to a log and set him adrift. It's a double win; the earth benefits and the food chain is satisfied.
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He could have a solar panel hooked up to the log powering his thermostat controlling his energy efficent laptop and post to the world about how gobal warming's gonna get us if we don't weather strip our doors and windows.
I only hope that the Climategate scam continues to gain traction and exposure.
– Weather-strip your doors and windows. “You can go to Home Depot and get this done in less than a day,” Begley says. “You’ll start saving money on your first energy billing cycle.” – Get yourself an energy-saving digital thermostat. “And don’t forget to program it,” Begley says. “Set it to your home habits, so it knows when you wake up and when you sleep. And don’t waste money heating your home when you’re not there.” Actually, those are sound pieces of advice (the ones quoted). LED Christmas lights are gorgeous, no real heat and use like 10% of the energy. Nothing wrong with that. Normal house lighting still needs some work though, the LED bulbs are just now starting to give out reasonable light compared to normal bulbs, I suspect that we'll need a year or two to have them up to 60W bulb lumen output. That said, at 7W compared to 60W, the cost savings is huge, especially given the like 100,000 hour lifespan of LED lights. The other two items are just common sense, and they help out on your utility bills as well. You don't have to be an eco-religionist to see the cost benefits of those basic items I'd think. Begely, fwiw, at least practices what he preaches. More than can be said of most eco-religionists whose sole goal is to change how *you* live. But yes, he is a nutbar. :)
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
Me too.
I've been doing these things for years (except the light bulbs). I also turn a light off when I leave a room. Where I differ with Begley is the ultimate end this lifestyle takes you, and the phony science used to support the environmental movement.
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You don't have to be an eco-religionist to see the cost benefits of those basic items I'd think. Agree. The largest energy saver that we've done was to have Radiant Barrier paint sprayed on the roof decking (in the attic). The last electric bill was $68 and change. Low-flow toilets, and timely rains, brought our water bill down to $18 and change. Turning the computer off in the evening saves 350 watts of juice. A bunch of little things will add up the savings.
i can't do the LED bulbs as i use 3 ways (250-100-50) in all my lamps. i like a lot of bright light. however, i only turn them on when i'm in that particular room and always turn off lights when i leave a room. i only turn off one of my 4 computers overnight though.
There's no shortage of energy here where I live. It's all hydro-powered. I buy fluorescents because they they last longer and save on the hydro bills. Feel kinda bad wondering what all that mercury will do to the environment, though. I get LED flashlights because the batteries last longer. What's curious is getting a flyer in the mail that comes with the hydro bill saying we should use less hydro. So I'm thinking, wouldn't they want us to use more? So they get more money? Then within a year after getting the flyer, we're getting charged extra for using TOO MUCH hydro. They substantiate with some sort of a 'green tax' or some ridiculous mind ****. They're charging us for using more of something there's absolutely no shortage of here. What makes it more maddening is that most people don't even question it. They lap it up like it's a good thing. Because the TV tells them it is. And I get accosted by a pseudo-hippy at the grocery store handing out free tickets to a rally for 'climate change' wearing a snorkle to protest how the ocean's gonna rise twenty feet soon. The whole world's gone nuts.
It's a two tier thing. We get charged so much for the first so many kW and a higher rate after that. Almost double or something. Of course anyone with a big house or more people in it gets dinged for this more.
he'll be a belltower sniper whithin the year if cap and trade doesnt pass because of climate gate
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One day Austin Energy is congratulating us on saving so much energy that a new 500M generating plant is not needed, and the next day they say that we can expect a rate increase due to loss of revenue. So we get hosed whatever we do.
Tell me..... He has IED (intermittent explosive disorder) which is a mental illness not limited to EnviroNutters. Don't ya' love the way he brought in light bulbs acting as baby ovens? Very timely. He needs to be beaten with a stick.
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Con Edison in NYC would charge us an extra surcharge if we saved too much electricity.
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LOL
Either that or (Choose 1): 1. Caned by a Singaporean Martial Artist. 2. Placed in Stocks in the Public Square. 3. Flogged by Captain Bligh. 4. Buried up to his neck in the middle of an Ant Hill with honey smeared on his head and face. 5. Forced to watch a Woody Allen Marathon without a bottle of Bourbon.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
And if y'all did use less, as a community, they'd charge you more as a maintenance upkeep charge on the system. I've seen other utilities pull that crap. Either way, you lose. Yay government established monopolies!
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
There are provisions in the Constitution against cruel and unusual punishment, you know.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
So we get hosed whatever we do. I should have read down before I made my last reply. What you state is exactly what they do in many places. It's an utter and complete scam. I'm highly encouraged by the progress of LED's and high energy efficiency appliances. At the rate it's going it's becoming almost feasible to go off grid without having to live like a granola munching smelly hippy. Then they can shove those bills up their fat monopoly asses.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
So are you telling me that you like 3 ways? Because, you know, I'm good with that! ;)
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
Exactly. Then there's Enron whose court documents were conveniently lost in building 7.
I'm currently using CFL's in everything except my magnifying desk lamp (it won't fit). Over time I'll replace those that burn out with LED's - and I already have several LED emergency lights - that will run for 1000 hours on 3 AAA batteries. I'm not doing it because of Ed Baglady Jr. though. I'm doing it because it saves me money. You might check out C. Crane Company and see if they have something that would work in your 3 ways. They have the biggest selection of white LEDs that I am aware of - including strip lighting. I have a CFL in my 3 way Torchiere here in my palatial singlewide. ;-)
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
LOL!
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
I'm in one of the only parts of Texas which decided to opt out of Governor George W. Bush's electricity "deregulation" schemes of the late 1990s, which were cooked up in cooperation and consultation with some of his closest political allies — the late, great swindlers who operated Enron. Since then, other areas of Texas, in spite of the new "competition" supposedly introduced into the electricity-generation business, have experienced rising electric rates while our regulated industry up here still has the lowest rates in the state. I point this out just to illustrate that doctrinaire "free market" economic policy doesn't always work as advertised. What you can also count, though, on is the fact that the doctrinaire "free marketeers" will always point out that you didn't follow EXACTLY what they would have prescribed to do and so will disregard the rest of your arguments. I note from this that Austin also is still regulated. “I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Granting monopoly territorial rights via government isn't free market. Not even pretending wise. And "deregulation" and "privatization" generally are neither, in any sense. Modern companies (the big ones anyway) fear a free market as much as the government does. There will be no free markets for us short of the black and grey markets.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
only in lightbulbs ;)
That is because they were not truly deregulated. Which with our current antiquated system of poles and wires is not really feasible. All that was deregulated was generation - not distribution. True deregulation would allow for technology supporting independent generation at the user level from a variety of technologies and companies. This is prevented by regulation and suppression of technology. None of the big players really want deregulation. They want to create the PR impression of deregulation without any real risk of being put out of business by new and better technology. Why do you think Pons and Fleischman had to flee to Europe to continue their research on Cold Fusion? They were receiving Death Threats here. Our Electical System is sooooooooo controlled. And The Austin Electric Utility Department DOES NOT generate their own electricity, they buy it on the open market at the cheapest competitive rate, AND they receive HUGE tax breaks by virtue of being a "Publicly Owned Utility". As well they get a huge price break in buying from Feral Government facilities such as TVA and Bonneville.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
This scam must be exposed. Will Al Gore and his cronies be moving to Paraguay soon?
No, and you can expect a full and thorough spin-cycle on this as the PTB have featured "Globull Warming" prominently in their plans to establish greater and greater control over everyone.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Yes and no. I really have to wonder if the cooling temps have made them move to plan B. No doubt that control is the ultimate goal but the cooling is hurting them and polls show people not buying it any more. They may have miscalculated getting cap and trade passed while doing a global financial meltdown at the same time.
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy."
No, and you can expect a full and thorough spin-cycle on this as the PTB have featured "Globull Warming" prominently in their plans to establish greater and greater control over everyone. The idiots/fools who fall for this scam deserve everything they are about to get. I can no longer feel sorry for these morons.
This is what they tried in CA when we had rolling blackouts. It was a fiasco and of course that was used to "show" how deregulation didn't work. It was shortly after that Enron folded and Arnold was elected to "fix" everything. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy."
Yes and no. I really have to wonder if the cooling temps have made them move to plan B. No doubt that control is the ultimate goal but the cooling is hurting them and polls show people not buying it any more. They may have miscalculated getting cap and trade passed while doing a global financial meltdown at the same time. The old bear falls into the old trap. -- Russian Proverb
Alex Jones’ Prison Planet.com » TV Environmentalist Goes Nuts Over ClimateGate
Yes and no. I really have to wonder if the cooling temps have made them move to plan B. No doubt that control is the ultimate goal but the cooling is hurting them and polls show people not buying it any more. They may have miscalculated getting cap and trade passed while doing a global financial meltdown at the same time. They are already subtly morphing the message by now referring to "Global Climate Change" rather than "Globull Warming", and that was already occurring because there was already too much contradictory data getting out. This latest revelation simply blows the lid a little further off. I would expand on the theme a bit but have to run for now.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
On the other hand, the incandescent bulbs can be a good way to teach toddler boys that pretty things can be dangerous.
If a nation expects to be diverse and free, it expects what never was and never will be.
Not pretty. I knew it would be ugly for the TRUE BELIEVERS when their god came tumbling down...
The death of Gaia is is bad news for the Wiccans. Thank god their asses were tossed off the board.
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That works great in the Northwest when weather almost never permits and if you don't live in the middle of one of the two cities, public transportation doesn't exist. Methinks yon moron has lived in LA too long.
COMRADE! Why are you not showing your Party affiliation and showing proper respect for Dear Leader? Put your Barackstika armband on RIGHT NOW!
I would like to track suicides which can be attributed to this global scam-hoax...they'll be dashing themselves soon if not already IMO. The tools that is...
"Free Market" was never intended to work with Government Sponsored Monopolies which is what a utility is.
COMRADE! Why are you not showing your Party affiliation and showing proper respect for Dear Leader? Put your Barackstika armband on RIGHT NOW!
There's less mercury in a truckload of those CFLs than the average Uhhmerkkin has in their mouth in fillings. It's a non-issue, but the goob wants to make it one so they can "give" us a mercury tax.
Which is exactly the plan.
I wonder if Begley knows why
they don't have cycling events in central PA in December?
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Begley, Al Gore, and all the other green morons didn't say ONE word against Obummer when he had the White House hotter than a sauna last winter when he first invaded his new government housing. I distinctly remember Chris Matthews laughing about it.
_________________________________________________________________________ Let me repeat: What you can also count, though, on is the fact that the doctrinaire "free marketeers" will always point out that you didn't follow EXACTLY what they would have prescribed to do and so will disregard the rest of your arguments. You didn't let me down. In my area of the state, which is not on ERCOT aka the Texas Grid, the utilities ARE privately-held and own lignite coal-fired generating plants all over the region, but are still subject to regulation. Our GOP state senator at the time took an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" approach to this issue. He became interim lieutenant governor around the time this was being debated and was able to exempt us from deregulation. Good move, in retrospect. All the "free market" think tanks laughed at him, but the fact is that the deregulated areas now have even higher rates, while ours, which were already lower than average, haven't risen much at all. The Chimp's deregulation schemes, in retrospect, were just a giant gift to the so-called "late" Ken Lay and Enron. There are very few things the Chimp or his daddy, Chimp Sr., ever did while holding political office that didn't involve graft and corruption in some way.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
I wonder if they will tax all the vineyards for growing grapes in cinnabar country which is the whole area from Napa to Asti especially concentrated in Lake county and west to the ocean. The water is full of it naturally here and we're exporting it all over the world.
If they haven't learned that from their mothers by the time that they are two, they're hopeless. :)
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
You didn't let me down. Well that's pretty convenient isn't it? He's right, it's not like they did a small thing wrong, they did a big thing wrong. A really big thing. There was no free market present. Calling it "deregulation" or "free market" doesn't mean that it is. Or put another way, you go into a restaurant and order a filet mignon dinner. The waitress brings out a hot dog and fries. You look at her and say "this isn't a filet mignon dinner". Gum smacking in her mouth she says "Sure is, we call this plate the filet mignon dinner. What, are you going to say it's not just because we didn't EXACTLY follow the recipe for filet mignon? Just what I'd expect".
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
The provision of public goods of a monopolistic/oligopolistic nature such as electricity has historically been regulated in this country. I think the Bush Crime Family in collaboration with Enron saw a way to make some bucks through scamming the system and they called it "deregulation" at the time. And the free market think tanks gave this scheme their seal of approval.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Ed Begley vs Fox's Varney: two establishments men each promoting their own brand of tyranny "It degenerated into a contentious and amusing clip which in the end, amounts to little more than two establishments men acting in a circus show, with each promoting their own brand of tyranny."
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. My bad - I assumed they bought off the grid as do most public utilities. However, the other advantages still stand - much reduced taxation (except those applied to the end user) and any supplemental power purchased from government facilities gets a big price break.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Thank you - and quite correct. It reminds me of Lincoln's comment in a debate: "An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
You're confusing free market think tanks approving of deregulation, with Bush claiming that he wanted to deregulate viz a vis non-deregulation.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
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#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#3. To: Lod (#1)
It has to hurt a psychotic like Begley when all he believes in has been exposed to be a lie.
#4. To: wudidiz (#2)
Ed Begley Jr. and everyone like him needs to be flogged.
#5. To: Jethro Tull (#4)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#6. To: Jethro Tull, wudidiz, all (#3)
#7. To: Jethro Tull (#3)
– Replace every conventional light bulb in your house or apartment with an energy-efficient LED bulb. “That includes your Christmas lights,” Begley notes. “They’re definitely cost-effective and use a whole lot less power.”
#8. To: Lod, Jethro Tull (#6)
I only hope that the Climategate scam continues to gain traction and exposure.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#9. To: SonOfLiberty (#7)
#10. To: SonOfLiberty, all (#7)
The other two items are just common sense, and they help out on your utility bills as well.
#11. To: SonOfLiberty, Lod (#7)
#12. To: Lod, Jethro Tull, SonOfLiberty, all (#10)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#13. To: christine. all (#11)
three way CFL bulbs -
#14. To: Lod, Jethro Tull, SonOfLiberty, all (#12)
Then within a year after getting the flyer, we're getting charged extra for using TOO MUCH hydro.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#15. To: Jethro Tull, *Agriculture-Environment* (#0)
#16. To: wudidiz, christine, all (#14)
#17. To: freepatriot32, all (#15)
he'll be a belltower sniper whithin the year if cap and trade doesnt pass because of climate gate
#18. To: Lod (#16)
#19. To: freepatriot32 (#15)
he'll be a belltower sniper
#20. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
He needs to be beaten with a stick.
#21. To: wudidiz (#14)
#22. To: Original_Intent (#20)
5. Forced to watch a Woody Allen Marathon without a bottle of Bourbon.
#23. To: Lod (#16)
One day Austin Energy is congratulating us on saving so much energy that a new 500M generating plant is not needed, and the next day they say that we can expect a rate increase due to loss of revenue.
#24. To: christine (#11)
#25. To: SonOfLiberty (#21)
Yay government established monopolies!
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#26. To: christine (#11)
i can't do the LED bulbs as i use 3 ways (250-100-50) in all my lamps. i like a lot of bright light. however, i only turn them on when i'm in that particular room and always turn off lights when i leave a room. i only turn off one of my 4 computers overnight though.
#27. To: SonOfLiberty (#22)
#28. To: SonOfLiberty (#21)
Yay government established monopolies!
#29. To: Sam Houston (#28)
#30. To: SonOfLiberty (#24)
#31. To: Sam Houston, SonOfLiberty, christine (#28)
I point this out just to illustrate that doctrinaire "free market" economic policy doesn't always work as advertised.
#32. To: Lod, Jethro Tull, wudidiz, Rotara, Original_Intent (#6)
I only hope that the Climategate scam continues to gain traction and exposure.
#33. To: TwentyTwelve, Lod, Jethro Tull, wudidiz, Rotara (#32)
Will Al Gore and his cronies be moving to Paraguay soon?
#34. To: Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, Lod, Jethro Tull, wudidiz, Rotara (#33)
No, and you can expect a full and thorough spin-cycle on this as the PTB have featured "Globull Warming" prominently in their plans to establish greater and greater control over everyone.
#35. To: Original_Intent, Lod, Jethro Tull, wudidiz, Rotara (#33)
Will Al Gore and his cronies be moving to Paraguay soon?
#36. To: Original_Intent, Sam Houston, SonOfLiberty, christine (#31)
That is because they were not truly deregulated. Which with our current antiquated system of poles and wires is not really feasible. All that was deregulated was generation - not distribution.
#37. To: farmfriend, Original_Intent, Lod, Jethro Tull, wudidiz, Rotara (#34)
No, and you can expect a full and thorough spin-cycle on this as the PTB have featured "Globull Warming" prominently in their plans to establish greater and greater control over everyone.
#38. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#39. To: Original_Intent. all (#31)
go here to learn about the Austin generation plants, and more -
#40. To: farmfriend (#34)
No, and you can expect a full and thorough spin-cycle on this as the PTB have featured "Globull Warming" prominently in their plans to establish greater and greater control over everyone.
#41. To: SonOfLiberty (#7)
LED Christmas lights are gorgeous, no real heat and use like 10% of the energy. Nothing wrong with that.
#42. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#43. To: Rotara (#42)
Not pretty. I knew it would be ugly for the TRUE BELIEVERS when their god came tumbling down...
#44. To: Jethro Tull (#3)
“Ride a bike when weather and fitness permit,” Begley explains. “Or use public transportation.”
#45. To: Jethro Tull (#43)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#46. To: Sam Houston (#28)
I point this out just to illustrate that doctrinaire "free market" economic policy doesn't always work as advertised.
#47. To: wudidiz (#12)
Feel kinda bad wondering what all that mercury will do to the environment, though.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#48. To: Lod (#16)
So we get hosed whatever we do.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#49. To: mirage, all (#44)
Ride a bike
#50. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#51. To: Original_Intent (#31)
That is because they were not truly deregulated.
#52. To: Esso (#47)
There's less mercury in a truckload of those CFLs than the average Uhhmerkkin has in their mouth in fillings. It's a non-issue, but the goob wants to make it one so they can "give" us a mercury tax.
#53. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#41)
On the other hand, the incandescent bulbs can be a good way to teach toddler boys that pretty things can be dangerous.
#54. To: Sam Houston (#51)
What you can also count, though, on is the fact that the doctrinaire "free marketeers" will always point out that you didn't follow EXACTLY what they would have prescribed to do and so will disregard the rest of your arguments.
#55. To: SonOfLiberty (#54)
#56. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#57. To: Lod (#39)
#58. To: SonOfLiberty, Sam Houston (#54)
Well that's pretty convenient isn't it? He's right, it's not like they did a small thing wrong, they did a big thing wrong. A really big thing. There was no free market present. Calling it "deregulation" or "free market" doesn't mean that it is.
A dog has four legs.
Now suppose you call his tail a leg.
Now, how many legs does he have?
Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg. Abraham Lincoln
#59. To: Sam Houston (#55)
I think the Bush Crime Family in collaboration with Enron saw a way to make some bucks through scamming the system and they called it "deregulation" at the time. And the free market think tanks gave this scheme their seal of approval.
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