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Title: 9/11: PENTAGON AIRCRAFT HIJACK IMPOSSIBLE (FLIGHT DECK DOOR CLOSED FOR ENTIRE FLIGHT)
Source: pilotsfor911truth.org
URL Source: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/american_77_hijack_impossible.html
Published: Nov 27, 2009
Author: unk
Post Date: 2009-11-27 21:43:30 by rack42
Keywords: 911, pentagon, flight 77
Views: 2036
Comments: 118

(PilotsFor911Truth.org) - Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes alarming evidence that the reported hijacking aboard American Airlines Flight 77 was impossible to have existed. A data parameter labeled "FLT DECK DOOR", cross checks with previously decoded data obtained by Pilots For 9/11 Truth from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) through the Freedom Of Information Act.

On the morning of September 11, 2001, American Airlines Flight 77 departed Dulles International Airport bound for Los Angeles at 8:20 am Eastern Time. According to reports and data, a hijacking took place between 08:50:54 and 08:54:11[1] in which the hijackers allegedly crashed the aircraft into the Pentagon at 09:37:45. Reported by CNN, according to Ted Olson, wife Barbara Olson had called him from the reported flight stating, "...all passengers and flight personnel, including the pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by armed hijackers..."[2]. However, according to Flight Data provided by the NTSB, the Flight Deck Door was never opened in flight. How were the hijackers able to gain access to the cockpit, remove the pilots, and navigate the aircraft to the Pentagon if the Flight Deck Door remained closed?[3]

Founded in August 2006, Pilots For 9/11 Truth is a growing organization of aviation professionals from around the globe. The organization has analyzed Data provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) for the Pentagon Attack, the events in Shanksville, PA and the World Trade Center attack. The data does not support the government story. The NTSB/FBI refuse to comment. Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not offer theory or point blame at this point in time. However, there is a growing mountain of conflicting information and data in which government agencies and officials along with Mainstream Media refuse to acknowledge. Pilots For 9/11 Truth Core member list continues to grow.

== [3] Right click and save target as here to download csv file with "FLT DECK DOOR" parameter.

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#1. To: rack42 (#0)

Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes

No need to read further.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-27   21:56:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1) (Edited)

No need to read further.

So, how should I interpret that statement? And why don't you say what you mean?

[edit] And why not make plain what you mean.

rack42  posted on  2009-11-27   22:52:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: rack42 (#2)

So, how should I interpret that statement?

"Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes alarming evidence "

Opening statement is self explanatory.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-27   22:55:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#3)

"Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes alarming evidence "

Opening statement is self explanatory.

So, here we go again.

You base your opinion on what? Is an "independent researcher and computer programmer" from Australia somehow deficient in determining that the program used by the glowber warmers is a fraud?

And, no, the opening statement is only self-explanatory to you.

rack42  posted on  2009-11-27   23:01:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: rack42 (#4)

You base your opinion on what?

Opinion????

Show me where I stated an opinion.

You posted something about a "researcher" and a "programmer", no names, no credentials, nothing, there fore, no need to read any further.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-27   23:03:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#5)

Know what, you got your responces crossed (as did I).

This thread is about flight 77.

rack42  posted on  2009-11-27   23:06:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: rack42 (#6)

Nope. Didnt bother to read any further.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-27   23:09:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#7)

Nope. Didnt bother to read any further.

Well, thanks for not bothering to look at the data. It would have confounded you and who knows what you would have said then.

Jeez.

rack42  posted on  2009-11-27   23:19:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: rack42 (#8)

Well, thanks for not bothering to look at the data.

Be glad to read anything bearing the names and credential of people that would be given credibility by those of known expertise in any such manner.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-27   23:33:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#11)

Here is the webpage of the Aussie programmer: http://www.warrenstutt.com/AAL77FDRDecoder/index.html

His name is Warren Stutt.

The webpage contains links to the binary and source of the program that he used to make it convienent to review the data of the flight recorder of AA77.

Here is the data of AA77 from NTSB: http://www.ntsb.gov/info/AAL77_fdr.pdf

Note that the file is from the NTSB website.

rack42  posted on  2009-11-28   8:28:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: rack42, randge (#19)

There is something I would like to make quite clear.

My personal beliefs...

AT THE VERY LEAST, some members of the government were aware prior to 9/11. This means that no matter what is discussed, I ACCEPT THAT "GOVERNMENT WAS INVOLVED....

Whomever the person was that originated the first idea, we will never know.

From the opposite view, it is beyond ludicrous when any attempt or discussion tries to weave into this web, hundreds of people far and wide, that were somehow complicit in carrying out 9/11.

Do I believe the government??? Of course not. But after all these years it is time we focused our efforts on finding the ...ORIGINATORS OF 9/11 AND THEIR FEW MINIONS THAT CARRIED IT OUT...

Whomever they were and are, they surely are laughing at the endless arguments of totally meaningless ideas.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-28   10:19:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#21)

Do I believe the government??? Of course not. But after all these years it is time we focused our efforts on finding the ...ORIGINATORS OF 9/11 AND THEIR FEW MINIONS THAT CARRIED IT OUT...

The very reason I refuse to take part in discussions that are nothing more than a waste of time.

Phant2000  posted on  2009-11-28   10:23:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Phant2000 (#22)

The very reason I refuse to take part in discussions that are nothing more than a waste of time.

The person that conceived this foul deed did not get his hands dirty in any way.

Then he enlisted a very tight and small group to "manage" the operation. At that point anyone else added to the operation was merely a drone that knew ONLY his own little part, nothing more.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-28   10:28:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Cynicom (#23)

The person that conceived this foul deed did not get his hands dirty in any way.

In an operation of this scale, that probably goes without saying.

Then he enlisted a very tight and small group to "manage" the operation. At that point anyone else added to the operation was merely a drone that knew ONLY his own little part, nothing more.

When the government releases the tapes from the boarding gates monitoring access to the flights in question, I will continue to question who the "drones" were and whom they were working for.

randge  posted on  2009-11-28   10:40:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: randge (#26)

When the government releases the tapes from the boarding gates monitoring access to the flights in question, I will continue to question who the "drones" were and whom they were working for

randge...

No drone will EVER lead us up the ladder.

Consigning countless people as "conspirators" will never unravel this thing.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-28   10:55:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Cynicom (#27)

randge...

No drone will EVER lead us up the ladder.

Consigning countless people as "conspirators" will never unravel this thing.

So what's wrong with a thread that speculates?

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-28   11:01:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mininggold (#28)

i don't think there's anything wrong with it. i enjoy speculating/conversation on a number of topics, but i can see where others may think it's a waste of their time. we will never know what really happened on 9/11 just as with the kennedy assassination. both government tales are ludricous.

christine  posted on  2009-11-28   11:07:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#31. To: christine (#30)

i don't think there's anything wrong with it. i enjoy speculating/conversation on a number of topics, but i can see where others may think it's a waste of their time. we will never know what really happened on 9/11 just as with the kennedy assassination. both government tales are ludricous.

I agree. I consider these sites like the benches outside the old small town grocery stores or barbershops where the old timers used to meet to discuss the issues of the day. Not a lot got settled but life is just a learning process anyway.

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-28 11:11:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: christine (#30)

but i can see where others may think it's a waste of their time. we will never know what really happened on 9/11 just as with the kennedy assassination. both government tales are ludricous.

Both events defy logic and demand that the viewer put aside all standards of normalcy and common sense in order to believe them. The fact that they came out with explanations immediately following the events said volumes. In eras without the one hour criminal TV dramas we ALL would have immediately been suspicious.

Well it does attest to the inability of government bureacrats to create scenarios that MAKE SENSE with a logical time line.

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-28 11:24:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: christine (#30)

we will never know

And some of us will NEVER forget.

randge  posted on  2009-11-28 12:14:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: christine (#30)

i don't think there's anything wrong with it. i enjoy speculating/conversation on a number of topics, but i can see where others may think it's a waste of their time. we will never know what really happened on 9/11 just as with the kennedy assassination. both government tales are ludricous.

Actually, I would beg to differ.

We do know what happened on 911.

We cannot nail down all the details and specifics but know in rough outline form what occurred.

Yes, the government's Official Fairy Tale® is ludicrous.

The problem is, as with the Kennedy Assassination, is that the criminals who perpetrated the crime are in control of the official investigative apparatus and the prosecution. So, we can say with certainty that they are not going to hang themselves. No honest and complete examination will come from the current criminals running our government. Nor will any prosecutions - no Attorney General not a "made man" will ever be appointed by them.

However, the contradictions and crimes pile up. As more people are made aware of them in a coherent fashion the idea spreads. Nothing is more powerful than an idea or the truth. That is why they fear it and us. That is why our enemies spend so much time and money to reinforce and keep the lies in place. And each lie has ended up requiring further lies to support it. So, the entire rickety affair is teetering, but not yet toppling.

I think we will at some point, but not soon, get a true resolution. Of course I am an incurable optimist too.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-11-28 12:36:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: christine (#30)

we will never know what really happened on 9/11 just as with the kennedy assassination.

We know what happened. We can't prove, in court, who did it.

bluegrass  posted on  2009-11-28 17:19:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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