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Title: 9/11: PENTAGON AIRCRAFT HIJACK IMPOSSIBLE (FLIGHT DECK DOOR CLOSED FOR ENTIRE FLIGHT)
Source: pilotsfor911truth.org
URL Source: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/american_77_hijack_impossible.html
Published: Nov 27, 2009
Author: unk
Post Date: 2009-11-27 21:43:30 by rack42
Keywords: 911, pentagon, flight 77
Views: 1698
Comments: 118

(PilotsFor911Truth.org) - Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes alarming evidence that the reported hijacking aboard American Airlines Flight 77 was impossible to have existed. A data parameter labeled "FLT DECK DOOR", cross checks with previously decoded data obtained by Pilots For 9/11 Truth from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) through the Freedom Of Information Act.

On the morning of September 11, 2001, American Airlines Flight 77 departed Dulles International Airport bound for Los Angeles at 8:20 am Eastern Time. According to reports and data, a hijacking took place between 08:50:54 and 08:54:11[1] in which the hijackers allegedly crashed the aircraft into the Pentagon at 09:37:45. Reported by CNN, according to Ted Olson, wife Barbara Olson had called him from the reported flight stating, "...all passengers and flight personnel, including the pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by armed hijackers..."[2]. However, according to Flight Data provided by the NTSB, the Flight Deck Door was never opened in flight. How were the hijackers able to gain access to the cockpit, remove the pilots, and navigate the aircraft to the Pentagon if the Flight Deck Door remained closed?[3]

Founded in August 2006, Pilots For 9/11 Truth is a growing organization of aviation professionals from around the globe. The organization has analyzed Data provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) for the Pentagon Attack, the events in Shanksville, PA and the World Trade Center attack. The data does not support the government story. The NTSB/FBI refuse to comment. Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not offer theory or point blame at this point in time. However, there is a growing mountain of conflicting information and data in which government agencies and officials along with Mainstream Media refuse to acknowledge. Pilots For 9/11 Truth Core member list continues to grow.

== [3] Right click and save target as here to download csv file with "FLT DECK DOOR" parameter.

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#1. To: rack42 (#0)

Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes

No need to read further.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-27   21:56:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1) (Edited)

No need to read further.

So, how should I interpret that statement? And why don't you say what you mean?

[edit] And why not make plain what you mean.

rack42  posted on  2009-11-27   22:52:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: rack42 (#2)

So, how should I interpret that statement?

"Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes alarming evidence "

Opening statement is self explanatory.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-27   22:55:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#3)

"Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes alarming evidence "

Opening statement is self explanatory.

So, here we go again.

You base your opinion on what? Is an "independent researcher and computer programmer" from Australia somehow deficient in determining that the program used by the glowber warmers is a fraud?

And, no, the opening statement is only self-explanatory to you.

rack42  posted on  2009-11-27   23:01:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: rack42 (#4)

You base your opinion on what?

Opinion????

Show me where I stated an opinion.

You posted something about a "researcher" and a "programmer", no names, no credentials, nothing, there fore, no need to read any further.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-27   23:03:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#5)

Know what, you got your responces crossed (as did I).

This thread is about flight 77.

rack42  posted on  2009-11-27   23:06:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: rack42 (#6)

Nope. Didnt bother to read any further.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-27   23:09:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#7)

Nope. Didnt bother to read any further.

Well, thanks for not bothering to look at the data. It would have confounded you and who knows what you would have said then.

Jeez.

rack42  posted on  2009-11-27   23:19:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: rack42 (#8)

Well, thanks for not bothering to look at the data.

Be glad to read anything bearing the names and credential of people that would be given credibility by those of known expertise in any such manner.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-27   23:33:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#11)

Here is the webpage of the Aussie programmer: http://www.warrenstutt.com/AAL77FDRDecoder/index.html

His name is Warren Stutt.

The webpage contains links to the binary and source of the program that he used to make it convienent to review the data of the flight recorder of AA77.

Here is the data of AA77 from NTSB: http://www.ntsb.gov/info/AAL77_fdr.pdf

Note that the file is from the NTSB website.

rack42  posted on  2009-11-28   8:28:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: rack42, randge (#19)

There is something I would like to make quite clear.

My personal beliefs...

AT THE VERY LEAST, some members of the government were aware prior to 9/11. This means that no matter what is discussed, I ACCEPT THAT "GOVERNMENT WAS INVOLVED....

Whomever the person was that originated the first idea, we will never know.

From the opposite view, it is beyond ludicrous when any attempt or discussion tries to weave into this web, hundreds of people far and wide, that were somehow complicit in carrying out 9/11.

Do I believe the government??? Of course not. But after all these years it is time we focused our efforts on finding the ...ORIGINATORS OF 9/11 AND THEIR FEW MINIONS THAT CARRIED IT OUT...

Whomever they were and are, they surely are laughing at the endless arguments of totally meaningless ideas.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-28   10:19:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#21)

Do I believe the government??? Of course not. But after all these years it is time we focused our efforts on finding the ...ORIGINATORS OF 9/11 AND THEIR FEW MINIONS THAT CARRIED IT OUT...

The very reason I refuse to take part in discussions that are nothing more than a waste of time.

Phant2000  posted on  2009-11-28   10:23:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Phant2000 (#22)

The very reason I refuse to take part in discussions that are nothing more than a waste of time.

The person that conceived this foul deed did not get his hands dirty in any way.

Then he enlisted a very tight and small group to "manage" the operation. At that point anyone else added to the operation was merely a drone that knew ONLY his own little part, nothing more.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-28   10:28:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom (#23) (Edited)

At that point anyone else added to the operation was merely a drone that knew ONLY his own little part, nothing more.

I would imagine that each one was convinced that they were doing "God's Work".

Lot of that going around.

tom007  posted on  2009-11-28   10:36:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: tom007 (#25)

I would imagine that each one was convinced that they were doing "God's Work".

Tom...

Possible but unlikely.

There was a great deal of sloppiness involved in 9/11, all by the lower drones, pilots, that were to carry out the act. They were flying flags in this country that screamed for attention. Of the lot, only one was caught before the deed and the FBI had to be coaxed into acting on that one.

That does not make the FBI co-conspirators.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-28   11:11:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Cynicom (#32)

There was a great deal of sloppiness involved in 9/11, all by the lower drones, pilots, that were to carry out the act. They were flying flags in this country that screamed for attention. Of the lot, only one was caught before the deed and the FBI had to be coaxed into acting on that one.

Six of the purported "drones" that were said to have piloted those planes are still alive. (Note that the networks have long ceased posting the pictures of the "nineteen hijackers" in their reports. Why?) I am far from convinced that the Arabs said to have flown those planes were indeed on them at all.

That does not make the FBI co-conspirators.

You can call them what you like, Cyni, but they and their alphabet-soup agency brethren are withholding a massive amount of evidence concerning what went on that day based on "national security." I doesn't wash in my book. Those that cover the tracks are as culpable as the perps.

randge  posted on  2009-11-28   12:12:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#39. To: randge (#36)

That does not make the FBI co-conspirators.

You can call them what you like, Cyni,

I was referencing the local FBI and Zacarias Moussaoui.

The drones were advertising they were up to something to anyone that was paying attention.

Prevost saw it early on and the FBI paid no attention.

" Prevost testified that he approached his managers, and recalled telling them, "We don't know anything about this guy, and we're teaching him how to throw the switches on a 747." Don't Miss

* FindLaw: Moussaoui's case history

But he said his managers at first told him Moussaoui had paid his money and they didn't care.

Prevost testified that he told his bosses, "We'll care when there's a hijacking and the lawsuits come in."

He testified Moussaoui's stated goal of learning to fly from Heathrow Airport in London to New York's John F. Kennedy Airport was unusual from the beginning, because Moussaoui had 50-odd hours of flight time on a single-engine propeller plane and no pilot's license.

Prevost testified he usually had students with more than 600 hours of flight time, and that they are usually professional pilots looking to upgrade their skills and fly bigger jets for a higher salary.

But Moussaoui, he testified, "had no frame of reference whatsoever with a commercial airliner. After 15 minutes I said, 'Let's get lunch.' "

Prevost said he was worried that if Moussaoui completed the three four-hour 747 simulator sessions he had booked, he would know how to operate a real 747.

He testified that he let Moussaoui sit in on another student's simulator session, but he never got any of his own sessions.

A day after Prevost went to his bosses with his concerns, two Pan Am program managers called the FBI, leading to Moussaoui's arrest on an immigration violation. Moussaoui had stayed in the United States past his allowed 90 days on his French passport.

In November, the Air Line Pilots Association, International, presented Prevost with its 2007 Presidential Citation Award for his efforts to alert authorities to Moussaoui, according to an ALPA "

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-28 12:25:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: randge (#36)

Six of the purported "drones" that were said to have piloted those planes are still alive. (Note that the networks have long ceased posting the pictures of the "nineteen hijackers" in their reports. Why?) I am far from convinced that the Arabs said to have flown those planes were indeed on them at all.

I would just like to know if the results could be replicated.

Have persons say like myself, totally unfamiliar with piloting an aircraft, go to one of those flight schools, receive the exact same training and then from a desert base such as Edwards simulate the commandeering with 3 cohorts of similiar planes setup in pre911 mode. And fly them to a specific point using routes similiar to those three planes....to say a high unused cell phone tower.

mininggold  posted on  2009-11-28 12:35:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: randge (#36)

Cynicom is a paid dis-info artist. His style and questions are just like all of the rest of the .gov losers trying to cover for the CIA/Mossad false flag event of 9/11. Don't believe him for a second when he tries to claim otherwise. I have seen many like him on many different forums to not know when I am dealing with one of their ilk. Not worth wasting breath or type on. He is here for one reason only, disinfo.

RickyJ  posted on  2009-11-28 23:45:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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